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bsd.rd, "upgrade" to the same version again and choose bsd.mp in the installer 10:52 < pardis> but if you have a multiprocessor system, the installer will choose bsd.mp by default, so why do you want to use bsd.mp on a uniprocessor system? 10:52 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 10:52 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:53 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 11:01 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 11:10 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 11:13 -!- oZZ [~oZZ@user/ozz] has joined #openbsd 11:15 -!- vezhlys [~vezhlys@213.159.57.238] has quit [Remote host closed the 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Are you using a Blue tooth dongle or a wire ? 11:27 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:27 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 11:30 < remiliascarlet> jmcunx: Firefox at first, but I did via MPV as well even without starting Firefox, so I already ruled out that possibility. And I'm using PC speakers through a 3mm audio jack. 11:31 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32 < jmcunx> the only other think I can suggest is if you are on amd64, put this in rc.conf.local - sndiod_flags=-f rsnd/0 -F rsnd/1 11:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 11:33 < jmcunx> I have no issues and that is the only thing I have related to sound. Saw that somewhere years ago 11:33 < jmcunx> have to step away for a a few mins 11:34 -!- accelerat0r [~user@user/accelerat0r] has joined #openbsd 11:34 < remiliascarlet> Yes, I'm on AMD, both CPU and GPU. 11:35 < RobbieAB> Really dumb question: Do you have multiple sound cards? (I have seen Linux systems get themselfs in knots with MoBo sound and HDMI) 11:36 < remiliascarlet> I have 1 monitor with built-in speakers, so technically yes. 11:36 < jmcunx> no, only 1 sound card ib a Thinkpap 11:36 < jmcunx> 'pad' :) 11:36 < remiliascarlet> ThinkPads work perfectly fine. The issue happens on a desktop PC. 11:37 < RobbieAB> AMD discrete GPUs with HDMI outputs, AIUI, normally include a sound card to handle HDMI audio. 11:38 < RobbieAB> So if you have a soundcard on the motherboard, it is possible that everything is working fine, just on the wrong chip. 11:39 < remiliascarlet> Motherboard indeed has a soundcard, and so does the GPU. 11:40 < remiliascarlet> But I'm using the motherboard's, because the sound quality of my monitor's built-in speakers just sucks. 11:41 < RobbieAB> I don't know much about openbsds sound system, tbh, but... is it possible the software isn't doing what you think it should be and is sending the sound to the wrong chip? 11:41 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 11:42 -!- maxtor [~maxtor@176.116.80.2] has joined #openbsd 11:43 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:43 < sibiria> openbsd doesn't do HDMI audio mux either, as far as i know 11:44 < sibiria> if you were expecting audio to come out that way 11:47 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 11:50 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 11:51 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 11:53 -!- mnour_bsd [~mnour_bsd@77-160-155-87.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #openbsd 11:59 -!- brynet [~brynet@brynet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:01 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 12:01 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 12:06 < kn> afaict we don't have any audio via hdmi, displayport, etc. 12:07 < kn> just got a new monitor with speaker/mic, all via usb-c, there the mic works, but speakers internally go via displayport (according to another os) which azalia(4) simply disabled 12:13 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:13 -!- maxtor [~maxtor@176.116.80.2] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:14 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 12:19 -!- brynet [~brynet@brynet.ca] has joined #openbsd 12:21 -!- xzdx [~xzdx@user/XZDX] has joined #openbsd 12:21 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 12:23 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:26 -!- xzdx [~xzdx@user/XZDX] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:31 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 12:32 < pirateoverboard> pardis: I have a multiprocessor system. When I sysupgraded from 7.4 to 7.5 it installed bsd.sp instead of bsd.mp. No clue how that could have happened 12:33 < pirateoverboard> But I was able to fix KARL when I copied over bsd.mp 12:34 -!- edne [~edne@2a07-a880-4603-1042-4f99-eb7c-2e15-6ee0.pool6.ovpn.com] has joined #openbsd 12:35 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 12:35 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 12:41 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 12:44 -!- sliced [~sliced@ip-185.238.207.18.laito.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:47 < pardis> pirateoverboard: are you sure you fixed KARL correctly and that it's not relinking you a 7.4 kernel? 12:47 -!- imega [~coma@55.42.150.83.ftth.as8758.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:47 < pardis> the installer will not install the files to relink GENERIC.MP unless you install bsd.mp 12:49 < pirateoverboard> The relink.log file said to issue: sha256 -h /var/db/kernel.SHA256 /bsd 12:50 < pirateoverboard> So maybe it’s not 12:50 -!- sliced [~sliced@ip-185.238.207.18.laito.net.pl] has joined #openbsd 12:51 -!- rainystorm [~rainystor@user/rainystorm] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.2.1] 12:51 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 12:53 -!- adig [~default@37.251.220.222] has joined #openbsd 12:55 < pardis> you should only do that if you know the files in /usr/share/relink/kernel/GENERIC.MP match the kernel at /bsd 12:55 < pardis> if you didn't install 7.5's GENERIC.MP, the files in that directory are still from 7.4 12:55 < pardis> when you said you fixed KARL, do you mean you ran that command and hoped for the best, or did you reboot into the kernel it produced and verify that it works? 12:56 < pirateoverboard> I ran the command and rebooted. And it reported it as 7.5 GENERIC.MP and the Karl warning went away 12:57 < pardis> okay, that seems fine 12:58 < pardis> as long as you rebooted *after* the KARL warning was gone 12:58 < pardis> if you just rebooted once, and didn't manually relink a kernel, then you booted into the non-relinked kernel and whatever you boot next time will be the relinked one 12:59 < pardis> you can also run 'what /bsd' to verify the version of that kernel without rebooting 13:00 < pirateoverboard> Yup. Thanks for the help though. I appreciate it. Yes I rebooted a couple of times after and it still reports 7.5. Thanks for the tip 13:00 -!- djjdiw [~root@178.49.152.181] has joined #openbsd 13:01 < pirateoverboard> Not sure why I have such trouble updating. I’m thinking I have some bad ram 13:01 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01 < djjdiw> I updated and now my nice system is swamped with megatons of junk again 13:01 < djjdiw> and now it updates every package in the system too 13:01 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 13:02 < djjdiw> why did 7.4 have old package versions? 13:04 -!- msi [~msi@user/msi] has joined #openbsd 13:06 < metavoid> define old 13:06 < metavoid> ports are rarely bleeding edge 13:07 -!- ikichigai [~ikichigai@5.43.228.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:09 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 13:10 < pirateoverboard> pardis: you were right. uname -a reports 7.5 but what /bsd reports 7.4 13:11 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 13:12 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:13 < pirateoverboard> Can I still boot into bsd.rd and choose upgrade or do I need to burn a usb? 13:13 < djjdiw> like 1-2 minor version difference 13:14 -!- msi [~msi@user/msi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:14 < pardis> upgrading gets you new things, more at 11 13:14 < pardis> pirateoverboard: should be fine to boot bsd.rd 13:15 < pirateoverboard> Thanks! 13:16 < pardis> maybe also check /etc/boot.conf if booting gets you a different kernel from /bsd, maybe you have some config to boot a different one or something 13:17 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 13:21 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:22 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 13:24 -!- jakef [~user@user/jakef] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:26 < pirateoverboard> There is no boot.conf so I think I should be good. Thanks again 13:28 -!- pirateoverboard [~pirateove@user/pirateoverboard] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29 -!- todi [~todi@p57803331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 13:31 < djjdiw> still. nothing doas rm cannot fix 13:31 < sibiria> and if that doesn't work just empower it a bit more: doas doas doas rm 13:31 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 13:32 < sibiria> adding your mortal user in doas.conf with permissions to rm any root:wheel-owned contents is a fantastic idea 13:32 < sibiria> it's exactly the sort of ignorant privilege abuse doas was intended to facilitate 13:34 < djjdiw> not my fault the creators of rm were braindead 13:35 -!- pirateoverboard [~pirateove@user/pirateoverboard] has joined #openbsd 13:35 -!- rjc_ [ad8mnxoy7f@srv.dataswamp.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35 < djjdiw> or to be fair that we still try to use the 70s tools in 2024 13:37 < djjdiw> if openbsd had have a package manager, the things would be so much better 13:37 < sibiria> have you considered switching to windows? unix-likes may not be for you 13:39 < sibiria> or at least some good linux desktop thing where most of the complicated unix-y stuff is out of sight 13:41 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 13:43 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43 -!- pirateoverboard_ [~pirateove@user/pirateoverboard] has joined #openbsd 13:43 -!- pirateoverboard [~pirateove@user/pirateoverboard] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:43 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 13:45 < MiniontobyPI> Btw guys, I have just linked two NSD servers, but I am not 100% certain it works 13:46 < MiniontobyPI> `doas nsd-control force_transfer ` says `ok`, but there is no zone file in the location that I specified 13:50 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has joined #openbsd 13:52 -!- _0bitcount [~BigByte@232.pool85-60-131.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #openbsd 13:52 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 13:55 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has joined #openbsd 13:57 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@2001:470:1f15:e4:beef::2020] has joined #openbsd 13:57 < antranigv> hey all, how are you? Does OpenBSDs dhcpd support IPv6 in any shape or form? 13:58 -!- kroovy [~libera@62.27.201.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:58 < MiniontobyPI> antranigv: it should, yeah 13:59 < MiniontobyPI> I am running an OpenBSD machine that only has IPv6 attached to it 13:59 < MiniontobyPI> No ipv4... (because ipv6 is free and ipv4 not, that is why we chose to do that) 14:00 < antranigv> MiniontobyPI ah, to be more clear, not the dhclient, but the dhcp server in OpenBSD (that's also ported to other places) 14:00 < antranigv> I know that OpenBSD supports DHCPv6 and SLAAC, but I'm interested in DHCP Server running DHCPv6 14:01 -!- inak [~justme@153-104-74-65.gci.net] has joined #openbsd 14:01 < MiniontobyPI> Hmm, idk, I just use Iked to be the dhcp server for my ipv6 subnet, but that is because it is for DDoS Protection 14:01 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02 < antranigv> interesting 14:02 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 14:05 -!- mnour_bsd [~mnour_bsd@77-160-155-87.fixed.kpn.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:05 -!- zetef [~quassel@5.2.182.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05 -!- kroovy [~libera@62.27.201.192] has joined #openbsd 14:11 -!- 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[uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:28 < sibiria> quad9 can't resolve it, dns0 can't resolve it 16:29 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has joined #openbsd 16:29 < pardis> quad9 blocks it because it's on a threat list, apparently 16:29 < cat5> hmm I'll go back to using 0x0.st from the terminal. catbox is nice for drag-n-drop in a browser tho 16:29 < pardis> https://quad9.net/result?url=files.catbox.moe 16:30 < sibiria> cat5: image reads like something straight out of 4chan trollbox 16:31 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 < cat5> guess I'm just immature 16:31 < cat5> I like this "stop doing x, they have played us for fools" template 16:31 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32 < sibiria> there's enough space (still) in ipv4. problem is it's been allocated and owners are hogging the subnets to try profit off of them 16:32 < sibiria> thus, ipv4 has run out 16:32 -!- fflam [~mdt@74.110.241.240] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.2.1] 16:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 16:32 < MiniontobyPI> no it is not like that 16:32 < MiniontobyPI> but sure 16:33 < sibiria> yes, it's like that. ipv4 profiteering has exploded, and subnet broker market is huge 16:33 < MiniontobyPI> btw I have got a friend of mine and he connects to my VPN, but it gives him an authentication not acceptable error 16:33 < MiniontobyPI> Iked -dvvvv logs are here: https://pastebin.com/zmDv8MFm 16:33 -!- Qual [~Qual@user/Qual] has joined #openbsd 16:33 < MiniontobyPI> sibiria: It is not the reason why he didn't buy the ipv4, tho 16:33 < RobbieAB> I think it could possibly be a combination of both 16:33 < MiniontobyPI> Hetzner provides ipv6 for free 16:34 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34 -!- fflam [~mdt@74.110.241.240] has joined #openbsd 16:34 < OwlWizard> hi. is there a definiton of when a os can call itself a bsd? 16:34 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 16:34 < MiniontobyPI> But please help me out with this problem: "I have got a friend of mine and he connects to my VPN, but it gives him an authentication not acceptable error. Iked -dvvvv logs are here: https://pastebin.com/zmDv8MFm" 16:34 < cat5> OwlWizard: probably something to do with the kernel 16:35 < sibiria> OwlWizard: when the kernel is based on bsd4.x? 16:35 < cat5> buy me a coke 16:35 < OwlWizard> sibiria, so if someone where to take a bsd and replace the kernel with a micro kernel it would seize to be bsd? 16:36 -!- qqq [~qqq@92.43.167.61] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36 < RobbieAB> Why does this start to sound like a Ship of Theseus question? 16:37 < sibiria> OwlWizard: in my opinion it's the kernel rather than the userland. there are "chimeras" out there - BSD-like userlands with linux kernel, and linux userlands with BSD kernels 16:37 < OwlWizard> RobbieAB, i had the very same thought 16:37 -!- zetef [~quassel@5.2.182.99] has joined #openbsd 16:37 < OwlWizard> sibiria, yea ive seen quiete alot of those. debian had basicly every single bsd kernel at one point 16:38 -!- luca [~aninterne@user/luca1] has left #openbsd [Goodbye] 16:38 < RobbieAB> I think, for me, the unity and consistency of the design in BSD is a bigger differentiator than individual components. 16:39 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 16:39 < cat5> RobbieAB: that's very esoteric. *WRONG BUZZER NOISE* 16:40 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:42 < cat5> siberia said it best pointing to the distinction between userland and kernel 16:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:42 < sonya> OwlWizard: btw, Minix3 say that it's binary compatible with NetBSD (if i got it right), but it's not *BSD , imho.. 16:43 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 16:43 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1011:2a81:1e6f:65ff:fe88:557f] has joined #openbsd 16:44 < OwlWizard> sonya, is minix still actively developed? 16:45 < OwlWizard> i thought that it kinda died after 3 16:45 < cat5> last update on their wesite appears to be from 2016 16:46 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 16:48 -!- tarxvfz [~tarxvfz@gateway/tor-sasl/tarxvfz] has joined #openbsd 16:48 < sonya> OwlWizard: it seems that it's alive.. at least after Intel took it as a base for ME , there still some efforts to port and so on.. i could be totally wrong, it's just a look passing by.. 16:48 < sibiria> alive in well, the very essence of the backdoor in every intel cpu 16:49 < sonya> sibiria: exactly :) 16:52 * RobbieAB notes that is why he has an IBM POWER workstation. 16:52 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52 < OwlWizard> RobbieAB, nice to know that rich people are here 16:52 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 16:53 < RobbieAB> Sorry, it wasn't meant that way. 16:53 < OwlWizard> it was mostly meant as a joke 16:54 < OwlWizard> im looking into POWER9 myself but it has mostly 2 issues. first of all iirc box64 doesnt work for it wich is a big thing for me and iirc it is a dead end as power 10 requires proprietary code to boot 16:54 < OwlWizard> oh also i cant afford it 16:55 < RobbieAB> I blew a bonus on the Raptor Talos when we still didn't know what was coming with P10... And the feelers are that P11 may reverse the blod requirement for P10. Failing that, there is another possible vendor AIUI. 16:57 -!- todi [~todi@p57803331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 16:58 < OwlWizard> RobbieAB, what is your opinion on risc-v? ik that it by itself wont garantue user-freedom but it in my opinion should allow to make fully open hardware while having compatibility with programms written for proprietary implementations 17:01 -!- casaca [ce7c759250@user/casaca] has joined #openbsd 17:02 -!- zetef [~quassel@5.2.182.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 17:03 -!- hocrdoac^ [~cd@c-98-242-74-66.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 17:08 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 17:09 < avemestr> OwlWizard: Check out https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ 17:10 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has joined #openbsd 17:11 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12 < OwlWizard> avemestr, i was aware of that one but it is abandoned 17:12 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13 -!- memset_ [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 17:13 * sonya wish to get RK3588 board.. just to compare with modern amd64.. especially if there's a notebook with it.. 17:14 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 17:14 < pardis> OwlWizard: any OS can call itself a *BSD, the question is whether that claim will be accepted by anyone else 17:14 < pardis> not like it's a trademark or anything 17:14 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has left #openbsd [] 17:16 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has joined #openbsd 17:17 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17 < sibiria> sonya: i have the radxa rock5b. it has decent performance, but not comparable to modern amd64 stuff 17:19 -!- mason [~mason@slackbuilds/poser/mason] has left #openbsd [] 17:20 -!- nixfloyd [~nixfloyd@user/nixfloyd] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.4] 17:20 < sonya> sibiria: thanks.. thought so, but my needs are modest or less than modest.. anyway, 8 cores are promising.. 17:21 < sonya> and it's for OpenBSD only 17:21 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has joined #openbsd 17:22 -!- echelon [~echelon@gateway/tor-sasl/steerpike] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:22 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22 -!- echelon [~echelon@gateway/tor-sasl/steerpike] has joined #openbsd 17:23 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 17:23 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has joined #openbsd 17:23 -!- sonne [~vmlinuz@user/sonne] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:24 -!- xzdx [~xzdx@user/XZDX] has joined #openbsd 17:26 < sibiria> i've only used it for a very short while. it was a bit of an impulsive purchase. but the little i tried, the performance was around what could be seen on circa 2015 core i3 stuff 17:26 < sibiria> i.e. pretty high for just consuming a few watts. more than enough for plenty of server stuff 17:26 -!- hitest [~hitest@user/hitest] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:26 < sibiria> afaik openbsd won't run on rk3588 yet 17:27 -!- qqq [~qqq@92.43.167.61] has joined #openbsd 17:27 < sibiria> actually, it seems it does run on rk3588 since 7.5 17:29 -!- xzdx [~xzdx@user/XZDX] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:30 -!- billchenchina- [~billchenc@2a0d:2580:ff0c:1:e3c9:c52b:a429:5bfe] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 17:33 -!- sonne [~vmlinuz@user/sonne] has joined #openbsd 17:35 -!- _0bitcount [~BigByte@232.pool85-60-131.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #openbsd 17:39 -!- Maras [~Maras@user/Maras] has joined #openbsd 17:41 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 17:42 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:42 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 17:45 < MiniontobyPI> Again, Can someone help me out? 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And the set needed to be redownloaded and verified. Google wasn’t much help. Could this be related to a disk failure? 17:51 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@2001:470:1f15:e4:beef::2020] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:51 -!- jacobk [~quassel@47-186-114-143.dlls.tx.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 17:52 < RobbieAB> OwlWizard: My opinion is that the ISA is less important than most people think, as in practice what will matter is "Who makes high performance versions?" 17:52 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 17:56 < OwlWizard> RobbieAB, i just mostly want a socketed cpu plattform for risc-v with open firmware 17:57 < RobbieAB> I just want a socket platform with open firmware, the specific CPU arch is less critical. 17:58 -!- Maras [~Maras@user/Maras] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:59 -!- a1fa [~a1fa@user/a1fa] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:00 -!- r5c4571lh01987 [~rscastilh@179.221.142.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02 -!- Maras [~Maras@user/Maras] has joined #openbsd 18:02 -!- h3at [~qw@gateway/tor-sasl/h3at] has joined #openbsd 18:02 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 18:03 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:05 -!- euphores [~SASL_euph@user/euphores] has joined #openbsd 18:06 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has joined #openbsd 18:06 -!- Maras [~Maras@user/Maras] has quit [Client Quit] 18:06 < OwlWizard> RobbieAB, so except for one detail we basicly want the same thing 18:07 < thrig> global world domination? 18:08 < rnelson> unlimited oatmeal raisin cookies? 18:08 -!- r5c4571lh01987 [~rscastilh@179.221.142.8] has joined #openbsd 18:09 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has joined #openbsd 18:11 -!- AlaskanEmily [~AlaskanEm@user/alaskanemily] has joined #openbsd 18:12 < RobbieAB> OwlWizard: Oh, large parts of our desires do align. I just value the whole "open-firmware" more than any form of ISA purity. 18:12 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12 -!- Maras [~genghis@user/Maras] has joined #openbsd 18:13 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 18:14 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15 < OwlWizard> RobbieAB, dont get me wrong its more important for me to but i owuld really like risc-v to be that plattform 18:16 -!- ikichiga_ [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 18:16 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 18:22 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:23 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 18:23 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@2001:470:1f15:e4:beef::2020] has joined #openbsd 18:23 -!- c64 [uid502328@user/c64] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:25 -!- krl [~krl@h-155-4-221-200.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined #openbsd 18:26 -!- krl_ [~krl@h-155-4-221-200.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29 -!- pirateoverboard_ is now known as pirateoverboard 18:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 18:35 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@86-95-161-96.fixed.kpn.net] has quit [Quit: https://github.com/ivdsangen] 18:38 -!- ikichigai [~ikichigai@5.43.228.119] has joined #openbsd 18:39 -!- edne [~edne@2a07-a880-4603-1042-4f99-eb7c-2e15-6ee0.pool6.ovpn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39 -!- Maras [~genghis@user/Maras] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:43 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:43 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 18:46 < cat5> rnelson: got any outmeal cookies left? 18:46 < cat5> i cant spell. i'll just show myself oat now 18:48 -!- zwr [~zwr@200-97-244-121.user3p.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:48 < OwlWizard> lol 18:50 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 18:52 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 18:53 < ssm_> my framework laptop (notorious for bad battery life now gets over 4 hours of battery from full charge according to apm -m 18:53 < ssm_> s/life/&)/ 18:54 < byteskeptical> ssm_: nice, what gen and cpu? 18:54 < ssm_> byteskeptical: OG 3:2 display, intel 18:54 -!- accelerat0r [~user@user/accelerat0r] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:54 < ssm_> will upgrade to amd at some point, though I'm a bit nervous since I've had bad experiences with amd on openbsd in the past 18:54 -!- zwr [~zwr@200-97-244-121.user3p.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #openbsd 18:54 < ssm_> specifically amdgpu deadlocking 18:55 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55 < ssm_> honestly my hope is that framework develops an arm or risc-v mainboard, but I think the chances of that are low 18:57 < byteskeptical> ssm_: idk I think they may be better than ones expects especially is the ARM craze continues. I'm just going to miss thunderbolt if I upgrade 18:57 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:58 < ssm_> thunderbolt works on openbsd? 18:59 < thrig> lightning isn't generally good for computers 18:59 < byteskeptical> ssm_: device recognition, in my case screen chaining and dock usage yeah. Not sure if the nifty new file transfer feature they just announced ever will 19:02 -!- mlw [~mlw@154.127.13.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:02 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 19:03 -!- hocrdoac^ [~cd@c-98-242-74-66.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08 < riceandbeans> Forgive this as a stupid question 19:08 < riceandbeans> How do you know at what point you need to upgrade your system that's acting as the firewall and network services system for your network? 19:09 -!- xFCFFDFFFFEFFFAF [~psyhician@88.201.243.61] has joined #openbsd 19:09 -!- OwlWizard [~luca@dyndsl-091-096-057-004.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Quit: OwlWizard] 19:09 < riceandbeans> I have a 75Mb down, and an OpenBSD box routing for it and filtering with pf and also managing DNS and DHCP, but I'm going to be getting a 1Gb down within a month and I wonder about the same system handling it 19:10 < sibiria> i recall that my 2015-2016 era celeron could not manage to saturate 1 gbit. i got about 600-650 mbit/sec through it 19:11 < riceandbeans> But what was the tell tale sign? 19:11 < riceandbeans> system load? 19:12 < sibiria> that i simply couldn't get 1 gbit through it using tcpbench/iperf 19:12 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12 < riceandbeans> Or you just noticed the throughput wasn't what it should've been? 19:12 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 19:12 < sibiria> tcpbench/iperf are your friends 19:12 < sibiria> but my 2021 celeron saturates 1 gbit with no issues at all 19:13 < riceandbeans> cpu0: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU J3160 @ 1.60GHz, 2240.42 MHz, 06-4c-04, patch 00000411 19:13 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Quit: "To play for a draw [...] is to some degree a crime against chess." - Mikhail Tal] 19:14 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1011:2a81:1e6f:65ff:fe88:557f] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:15 < sibiria> that's similar to the celeron i used to run. J3455 19:16 < sibiria> openbsd 7.4 and 7.5 introduced a few optimizations that should yield a bit higher network performance, so i wouldn't be surprised if you could get closer to 1 gbit than i could with my J3455 a few years ago 19:17 < riceandbeans> Hmm, well, I'll hold off on buying an upgrade just yet then. 19:17 < sibiria> throw a few iperf tests at it. if you're getting just 500 mbit/s you may have some room for improving your network/ruleset 19:17 < riceandbeans> Comparing against these https://protectli.com/product-comparison/ 19:18 < riceandbeans> Well, I'm not in the house yet :) 19:21 -!- humky [~humky@user/humky] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:22 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@2001:470:1f15:e4:beef::2020] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:23 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 19:24 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 19:26 -!- the_sea_peoples [~the_sea_p@2601:600:8d01:14a3:dea6:32ff:fe16:a622] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.8] 19:26 -!- desnudopenguino [~Thunderbi@c-73-157-16-238.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26 < pony> just installed 7.5 🥲 19:27 < riceandbeans> oh man 19:27 < sonya> oh.. here's N95 (Alder Lake) which works (on 7.4 & 7.5) within 800MHz-1.7GHz, but windows 10 let 400MHz-3.4GHz per core range.. guess it's o'k or should i report? what you'd suggest? 19:27 < riceandbeans> My last month has been so crazy I didn't even realize that OpenBSD made a new release 19:27 -!- desnudopenguino [~Thunderbi@c-73-157-16-238.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 19:28 < riceandbeans> I'm saddened that there's no song :( 19:30 < sonya> cpu0: Intel(R) N95, 3392.18 MHz, 06-be-00, patch 0000000e 19:31 < sonya> cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 3392 MHz: speeds: 1701, 1700, 1600, 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200, 1100, 1000, 900, 800 MHz 19:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 19:37 < riceandbeans> Could someone briefly explain what btrace is? 19:37 < riceandbeans> I read the man page and don't understand 19:37 < riceandbeans> I was expecting something like, ktrace/dtrace/strace/truss 19:39 < ssm_> riceandbeans: see here: https://github.com/iovisor/bpftrace/blob/master/docs/reference_guide.md 19:39 < CosmicDJ> riceandbeans: or https://blog.lambda.cx/posts/openbsd-dynamic-tracing/ 19:39 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has joined #openbsd 19:42 < riceandbeans> Thank you 19:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 19:46 < riceandbeans> Hmmmm securelevel question.... 19:47 < riceandbeans> If set to 2 'highly secure', does the limitation against pf changes also apply to changes within tables? 19:50 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55 < sonya> not sure, afair my dhcpd worked with pf and 2-nd securelevel (leased/abandoned tables worked).. 19:55 < ssm_> riceandbeans: I think so, since you can define tables const to avoid mutation 19:56 < ssm_> "Without that flag (const), pfctl(8) can be used to add or remove addresses from the table at any time, even when running with securelevel(7) = 2." 19:56 < ssm_> so yes, tables are still mutable unless defined const with securelevel 2 19:57 -!- absc [~absc@213.55.241.90] has joined #openbsd 19:58 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:58 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 20:00 -!- absc [~absc@213.55.241.90] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- mlw [~mlw@154.127.13.68] has joined #openbsd 20:02 -!- gaussianblue [~gaussianb@user/gaussianblue] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:03 -!- _0bitcount [~BigByte@232.pool85-60-131.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:12 -!- signpost [~signpost@user/signpost] has joined #openbsd 20:16 -!- r5c4571lh01987 [~rscastilh@179.221.142.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-171-97-85-110.revip8.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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21:32 < cat5> dunoo hat that is 21:32 < thrig> YASD incoming 21:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:32 -!- accelerat0r [~user@user/accelerat0r] has joined #openbsd 21:32 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 21:33 < cat5> my gaming career started around 98' 21:34 < oldlaptop> I guess maybe flails aren't necessarily useless in not-nethack 21:34 -!- CountryBall0 [~CountryBa@85.106.96.108] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:34 < oldlaptop> (they're AIUI mostly useless weapons IRL, like most repurposed agricultural tools) 21:35 < thrig> flail in brogue is also not-as-good-as-alternatives 21:35 < oldlaptop> tetris(5) is pretty cool (not in ports) 21:35 < oldlaptop> probably the only IOCCC winner in the openbsd tree(?) 21:36 < cat5> i will forge this new flail-meta 21:36 < oldlaptop> s/5/6 :| 21:38 < accelerat0r> is anybody running openbsd sparc in qemu ? 21:40 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 21:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42 -!- Nixkernal [~Nixkernal@240.17.194.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:42 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 21:50 -!- runelind_ [~runelind@user/runelind] has joined #openbsd 21:51 -!- runelind [~runelind@user/runelind] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:54 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55 * sonya is playing vulture-nethack, but still not ready to cook a proper port.. sorry 21:55 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 21:55 -!- marekp [~marek@user/marekp] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:56 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has joined #openbsd 21:57 -!- absc [~absc@213.55.241.90] has quit [Quit: Got to go. irctk 1.1.0-alpha] 21:57 -!- chasmo77 [~chas77@c-98-232-187-196.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: It's just that easy] 22:04 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:05 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 22:05 -!- aestheti1s [~user@user/aesthetics] has joined #openbsd 22:06 -!- marekp [~marek@user/marekp] has joined #openbsd 22:07 -!- aesthetics [~user@user/aesthetics] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:08 -!- aestheti1s is now known as aesthetics 22:10 < cat5> ssm_: >You turn into a hulking beast 22:10 < cat5> its on 22:12 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 22:14 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 22:20 -!- aesthetics [~user@user/aesthetics] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20 < bountyht> thrig: Is brogue in ports? 22:20 < bountyht> thrig: Actually I maintain personal branch with brogue that includes pedge and unveil support 22:21 < bountyht> I used to offer it in a public ssh server 22:21 < bountyht> I also had a rogue version with pledge and unveil support and some bug fixes 22:21 -!- aesthetics [~user@user/aesthetics] has joined #openbsd 22:24 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 22:29 -!- marekp [~marek@user/marekp] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:33 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 22:40 < thrig> brogue is in ports, but I also had a forked version with mouse support disabled and the bash build dep removed 22:40 -!- signpost [~signpost@user/signpost] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:40 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has joined #openbsd 22:43 -!- gbowne1 [~gbowne1@97-113-92-242.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #openbsd 22:43 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 22:44 < bountyht> THat is good to know 22:45 -!- imega [~coma@55.42.150.83.ftth.as8758.net] has joined #openbsd 22:46 -!- magyar [~magyar@user/magyar] has joined #openbsd 22:46 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:47 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 22:48 -!- sudden [~cat@user/sudden] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:49 -!- paddymahoney [~paddymaho@99.250.26.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49 -!- signpost [~signpost@user/signpost] has joined #openbsd 22:50 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51 -!- adig [~default@37.251.220.222] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has joined #openbsd 22:52 -!- adig [~default@37.251.220.222] has joined #openbsd 22:53 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 22:53 -!- armin [~armin@zero.m2m.pm] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:53 -!- signpost [~signpost@user/signpost] has quit [Client Quit] 22:53 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 22:54 -!- signpost [~signpost@user/signpost] has joined #openbsd 22:54 -!- rynn [rynn@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/rynn] has quit [Quit: rynn] 22:56 -!- rynn [rynn@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/rynn] has joined #openbsd 22:56 -!- accelerat0r [~user@user/accelerat0r] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:58 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:01 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Quit: "To play for a draw [...] is to some degree a crime against chess." - Mikhail Tal] 23:03 -!- armin [~armin@zero.m2m.pm] has joined #openbsd 23:03 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04 -!- ikichiga [~ikichiga@95-24-9-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openbsd 23:05 -!- sudden [~cat@user/sudden] has joined #openbsd 23:06 -!- Haplo [~Haplo@user/Haplo] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:06 -!- varioust [~varioust@gateway/tor-sasl/varioust] has joined #openbsd 23:07 -!- signpost [~signpost@user/signpost] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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