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00:28 < dfdx> Hi #openbsd. I am a complete and utter ports noob. But, nevertheless, I want to install www/gotosocial. However, pkg_info tells me the latest version is 0.11.1; but on the github page here (https://github.com/superseriousbusiness/gotosocial?tab=readme-ov-file#distribution-packaging) I can see that 0.14.2 is available. Is it relatively easy to "version bump" or should I just reach out to the maintainer of 
00:29 < dfdx> the port and wait a couple of days?
00:35 < phy1729> Try and the bump and see if there are issues.
00:35 < uwharrie> OpenBSD removed a "feature" a lot of go based things depend on and one of its dependencies is currently broken: http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/www/gotosocial/Makefile?rev=1.17&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
00:37 < dfdx> uwharrie: ahh... so no point in trying then.
00:38 < dfdx> if anyone knows another way to selfhost a mastadon instance on OpenBSD (for a single user), I'm all ears. :)
00:38 < uwharrie> won't hurt anything to try a version bump, but chance of success is likely low
00:39 < dfdx> I mean, is version bump more involved than editing the Makefile? Doesn't the distfile have to also get updated with the new hashes and stuff? 
00:40 < uwharrie> yeah, but that's a single command
00:40 < thrig> mastodon is pretty complicated?
00:40 < uwharrie> heh, didn't know tedu@ had his own ActivityPub server
00:41 < dfdx> ah, nvm. I immediatley get an error: "Marked as broken"... with the error message you referenced, uwharrie.
00:42 < dfdx> though I thought since I was on amd64 it would somehow bypass it, given the "ONLY_FOR_ARCHS" line. Oh well.
00:42 < uwharrie> right, that's the infrastructure there so bulk builders can skip things until someone's had time to unravel the problems
00:42 < dfdx> thrig: yes, unfortunately I think it is very complicated.
00:43 < dfdx> although version 0.11.1 can be installed via pkg_add... maybe I should just try that. but there are some important features that have been added within the last 12 months. :|
00:43 < byteskeptical> dfdx: make clean && make makesum && make && make install
00:43 < uwharrie> last attempt on ports@ was Dec, but there's been some more recent work on go for the 7.5 release
00:43 < byteskeptical> dfdx: after updating the Makefile
00:44 < byteskeptical> dfdx: make sure you pull the lastest cvs changes from ports
00:47 < dfdx> byteskeptical: thanks. I tried that, but I still got the following error:
00:47 < dfdx> ===>  gotosocial-0.14.2  is marked as broken: uses modernc.org/sqlite which uses a hardcoded syscall number of the old obsolete version of SYS_mmap with pad arguments, now removed from the kernel .
00:47 < uwharrie> you'll need to remove the broken marker to see if things have gotten fixed
00:48 < byteskeptical> dfdx: ah then yeah the ports people have put it in time out until the issue is resolved
00:48 < dfdx> I will try commenting out the BROKEN line, which i'm sure is a big no-noo, but i'll see if it installs nevertheless.
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00:49 < uwharrie> it's there to save builders time
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00:55 < dfdx> ah... error while compiling. :)
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04:14 < hexis> hi
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04:47 < hexis> Hi
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09:22 < SiFuh> I upgraded the NFS from 7.2 to 7.5. Now I remember why I didn't upgrade before. Ever since 7.3 qBittorrent is excruciatingly slow. Instead of in MiB/s it is in KiB/s and jumping up and down. Anyone have any ideas? Seems aria2c has no issues. 
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09:26 < sonya> aria2c all the way here.. as an option, though i never used, 'rtorrent'
09:28 < sonya> and 'lftp' could serve as handy downloader too
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09:30 < SiFuh> sonya: Yeah, I prefer aria2c. I am working replacing qbittorrent with it so I can use it as a download agent for Sonarr
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09:41 < sibiria> check out transmission
09:41 < sibiria> rtorrent is bugged on anything non-linux
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10:11 < sonya> cc1plus: out of memory allocating 175720 bytes after a total of 0 bytes
10:11 < sonya> what it could be?
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10:32 < sonya> it was 'ulimit -d'
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12:23 < welcome> HELO
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12:24 < welcome> I just downloaded install75.img from amd64 [ftp from 	https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/]
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12:25 < welcome> I performed sha256 --check SHA256 install75.img on a freebsd system
12:25 < welcome> It failed the test
12:25 < welcome> I do not usually bother with this test
12:26 < welcome> however when I was using an image from aarnet's mirror, I noticed a MSDOS filesystem before the filesystem of the image which I thought was odd
12:26 < welcome> have I run the test correctly?
12:28 < welcome> I found this MSDOS filesystem on the flash drive I had dd the image to and had tried to install openbsd from
12:29 < welcome> I did not have my network set up to allow traffic to the computer over ethernet at the time I first attempted th einstall
12:29 < welcome> *the install
12:30 < welcome> I am typing on the freebsd system in this IRC session
12:30 < welcome> it appears to be intact
12:31 < sibiria> sha256 install75.img
12:32 < welcome> on freebsd?
12:32 < sibiria> then manually, using Eyesight(r) Technology, verify against what you see in the SHA256 file
12:32 < welcome> ok
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12:33 < sibiria> the MSDOS partition in the image contains the boot stage
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12:37 < welcome> this compare doesn't appear to work, as the SHA256 contains hashes for the base, ports, src etc whereas the test you outline shows a hash for the whole img
12:37 < welcome> they are not the same
12:37 < sibiria> the SHA256 file you want is in the same directory as the install disk image
12:38 < sibiria> you've by mistake taken the SHA256 from the parent directory
12:38 < vortexx> the MSDOS partition is actually the EFI partition as needed to boot on UEFI
12:38 < welcome> I will try again
12:39 < welcome> you are indeed correct
12:39 < welcome> excuse me
12:39 < welcome> o_O
12:40 < welcome> I will try again to install openbsd 7.5 amd64 and report back when complete
12:40 < sibiria> godspeed
12:41 < welcome> thankyou
12:41 < welcome> bye
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12:49 < byteskeptical> the ghost of jia tan haunts us all
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13:09 < remiliascarlet> Seems like the xz exploit has already turned into a pretty spicy meme by now.
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13:13 < IcePic> does the meme compress well?
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13:16 < ssm_> now we can laugh at linux users who say ipsec has a backdoor; difference being xz actually had a backdoor and the ipsec thing appears to be fictional
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13:17 < remiliascarlet> I've already been laughing at them with "your systemd is misconfigured" or "your Wayland is misfunctioning".
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13:22 < remiliascarlet> Or something involving Flatpaks might be a good troll too.
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13:32 < renaud> flatpack? Is that anything like a jetpack which doesn't fly and only explodes?
13:32  * sonya after win 10/11 not ready to laugh.. bright sunny future thay say..
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13:56 < mischief> something seems amiss with openports.pl
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13:57 < ssm_> mischief: looks normal to me
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13:57 < mischief> if i refresh sometimes i see SSL_ERROR_ILLEGAL_PARAMETER_ALERT in firefox.
13:58 < ssm_> dang must be the openbsd libressl backdoor
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14:36 < lockywolf> What does "ifconfig: vxlan0: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Can't assign requested address" mean? Can I make the vxlan part of ifconfig more verbose?
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14:41 < ssm_> lockywolf: what's your ifconfig command
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14:45 < lockywolf> ssm_: I think I have already done it, sorry for bothering
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15:37 < MiniontobyPI> mischief: but still: I do not know WHAT to capture. I do not knwo what packets to capture
15:39 < mischief> why not all of them? you can filter it later. :-)
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15:57 < a1fa> o/
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16:02 < a1fa> hello y'all
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16:03 < a1fa> I am trying to play plex live tv through Firefox, and it's giving me some crap
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16:05 < a1fa> "no video with supported format and mime type found"
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16:09 < mybalzitch> is it in h265?
16:09 < a1fa> i think so
16:09 < mybalzitch> then it wont work due to patent issues w/ h265
16:09 < a1fa> great
16:12 < a1fa> how do i get my tiktok videos now? :)
16:13 < mybalzitch> blessing in disguise/
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16:14 < a1fa> you wouldnt be wrong
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16:23 < vortexx> I know next to nothing about the Go language (apart from it being from Google and not so far from C but with some added safety features), why do those who write in it use syscall more than other languages?
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16:36 < sonya> why cats lick their balls?
16:38 < deepesttoaster> because they're flexible enough to be able to
16:38 < pardis> by syscall do you mean the package "syscall"?
16:38 < pardis> if so, that depends on what kind of programming you're doing
16:39 < pardis> if you're doing systems programming then syscall (or x/sys) is much like #include <sys/whatever.h> in C
16:39 < pardis> or in some cases stuff that isn't even under /usr/include/sys
16:39 < pardis> I've used it before to provide information about errno where a library just spews back a number at me
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16:40 < pardis> I wouldn't say it's used "more than other languages", whatever that means
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16:42 < thrig> or linux is weird and has a splitbrain between kernel and userland therefore syscalls are the portable interface and go was probably written with linux in mind
16:42 < thrig> (but then go got burned on Mac OS and now OpenBSD for doing wacky syscall things on !linux)
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16:58 < a1fa> noGo!
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17:00 < a1fa> 2024 - The year of the OpenBSD desktop.. i just need a way to watch those pesky h265 videos in a browser ]-_X[
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17:08 < pardis> thrig: I'd say that's more an answer to why the runtime relies on syscalls, rather than why "those who write in it" use syscalls, although maybe that was the intent of the question
17:09 < pardis> the runtime's use of syscalls is mostly hidden from writers of Go programs by Go's own abstractions
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17:38 < avemestr> a1fa: Tried same video in Chromium?
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18:18 < jrmu> for benchmarking openbsd softraid i/o, is there a good utility in base I can use?
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18:30 < lts> jrmu: in base AFAIK you're limited to dd(1). In ports, you have e.g. https://openports.pl/path/benchmarks/fio
18:31 < lts> Ah great. I got an excellent condition T480 and only chipped off two pieces when opening the back cover
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18:37 < cat5> a1fa: check out the browser plugin "enhanced-h264ify" I'm not sure it is what you are looking for, but I use it on chrome and find that it imporoves video playback quality
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18:38 < cat5> a1fa: ah maybe nevermind. this is youtube specific
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18:40 < jrmu> ok thanks lts, may give fio a check out
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19:39 < gman999> anyone have a qotom box running openbsd?
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19:39 < gman999> more dmesgs would be nice....
19:39 < gman999> https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=3701
19:39 < gman999> TIA
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20:31 < puffybuf> How do I get sysupgrade to not install X sets and games?
20:31 < puffybuf> chatgpt is saying: rcctl set sysupgrade_flags -x x* -x game*
20:31 < avemestr> Gosh.
20:32 < avemestr> Fun fact: ChatGPT might be wrong.
20:32 < uwharrie> nice hallucination
20:33 < puffybuf> I'm running -current on virtual server
20:34 < puffybuf> no need for X unless I want to do it over network
20:35 < avemestr> I think you can do "sysupgrade -n" (fetch and verify files , but don't reboot). Remove /home/_sysupgrade/x*. Reboot. But you're on your own when you stray from the recommended path.
20:35 < uwharrie> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=171240116717751&w=2
20:36 < uwharrie> you also won't be able to build any ports if that's a concern
20:36 < fro> there's no good reason to not just install all the sets
20:36 < fro> you're not saving a bunch of space
20:36 < avemestr> uwharrie: Great thread. See the same solution as I suggested. But with the caveats better detailed.
20:38 < fro> love that someone asked chatgpt tho
20:39 < avemestr> I love the topic of #postgresql in that regard.
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20:54 < SNAX_74> I just did a sysupgrade from 7.4 to 7.5 on a USB Portable OpenBSD everything went smoothly
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21:05 < SNAX_74> I added some speed tweaks for smoother desktop usage /etc/sysctl.conf - > https://pastebin.com/zR6dZhgf
21:06 < Bradipo> kern.maxproc of 8192, really?
21:06 < Bradipo> That's a lot of processes...
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21:07 < SNAX_74> Also add this to your /etc/login.conf file - > https://pastebin.com/qSyz2SFC
21:07 < SNAX_74> Bradipo -> trust me it works its smoother now
21:08 < Bradipo> This is a joke, right?
21:08 < SNAX_74> add yourself to the staff login.conf
21:08 < Bradipo> April 1st was 10 days ago, but I can see how someone might miss the 0 and think it's today.
21:08 < uwharrie> but this one goes to 11
21:08 < Bradipo> Well, sure, staff has higher resource allocations.  I'm talking about maxproc...
21:09 < Bradipo> If you have 8192 processes, I fail to see how this will make anything run more smoothly.
21:09 < zelest> nor are the comments/default values correct
21:09 < zelest> at least not on my machine
21:10 < zelest> and the 3 first options are plain stupid to add :P
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21:11 < Bradipo> I only enable audio/video recording when I *want* it, they remain off until then.
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21:11 < Bradipo> But enabling them won't make the desktop run more "smoothly".
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21:11 < zelest> yep
21:12 < SNAX_74> Then edit firefox about:config in the search bar
21:12 < SNAX_74> set layers.acceleration.force-enabled=true 
21:12 < Bradipo> What does that do?
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21:12 < SNAX_74> gfx.xrender.enabled=true
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21:13 < zelest> SNAX_74, dude, just stop
21:13 < SNAX_74> It will speed up your firefox web browser
21:13 < fro> add these tweaks i got from random websites guys
21:13 < fro> totally works
21:13 < SNAX_74> fro: it works
21:13 < Bradipo> Well, they may work.  If someone can show before/after of each individual thing, that would be useful.
21:13 < SNAX_74> OpenBSD is no longer slow its blazing fast now
21:14 < zelest> ...
21:14 < fro> there is no scenario where openbsd is blazing fast
21:14 < SNAX_74> and I a running it on a USB stick
21:14 < fro> also what works for you may not work for someone else
21:14 < tercaL> Hi, after upgrading from OpenBSD 7.4 amd64 to 7.5 amd64, my "top" reports a single CPU (1 core), I had 8 cores shown before the upgrade process. Any clue?
21:14 < thrig> did you boot bsd instead of bsd.mp
21:14 < uwharrie> tercaL: you may not be running the MP kernel
21:14 < zelest> SNAX_74, the proper way is "hey, fiddle with this nob if things are slow.. check this man-page to learn more about what it actually does" when giving advices.
21:14 < Bradipo> I don't mind tweaking values, but I want to know why they work.
21:15 < SNAX_74> pkg_add tor-browser is ultimately fast
21:15 < zelest> SNAX_74, not just "hey, use this huge config with zero explaination what anything does! it's blazing fast now, I promis!"
21:15 < Bradipo> So, is there something I can do before/after enabling one of these settings in FF that will show me that int improved anything?
21:16 < fro> just gotta trust him bro
21:16 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, You have to play with tweaking the values I am running OpenBSD 7.5 on a USB SanDisk portable drive using a Lenovo X260 laptop
21:16 < tercaL> thrig & uwharrie - does "sysupgrade -nk" and after; "reboot" boot into single cpu kernel by the default? (Had reboots few times more, though) ?
21:17 < SNAX_74> 8GB of memory unfortunately
21:17 < zelest> tercaL, what does uname -a say? GENERIC or GENERIC.MP ?
21:17 < Bradipo> SNAX_74: And you measured your exact same USB stick before and after each change and documented measurable differences?
21:17 < tercaL> zelest: GENERIC
21:18 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, I have to work on posting to a website so you will understand what I created
21:18 < Bradipo> Yeah, that would be helpful.
21:18 < tercaL> zelest: I have no physical access to my box, managing it remotely, so, no console access. Would cp /bsd.mp /bsd and a reboot help?
21:18 < fro> machdep.allowaperture=2        # Access the X Window System
21:18 < fro> lol
21:18 < fro> that's in there
21:18 < fro> this guy
21:19 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, Then you can tweak your /etc/login.conf file and /etc/sysctl.conf files
21:19 < Bradipo> Doesn't it default to 2 already?
21:19 < zelest> tercaL, Hmms, I honestly don't know how to pick which one to boot from. :o
21:19 < SNAX_74> fro, lol
21:19 < Bradipo> No, it doesn't.
21:19 < Bradipo> But then, I don't think it's required anymore either is it?
21:19 < zelest> tercaL, I *think* that works though, but save the old one in case it doesn't.
21:19 < fro> it hasn't been for a long time now
21:20 < SNAX_74> Anyway to make a long story short OpenBSD is no longer a slow operating system for me anymore
21:21 < SNAX_74> I think I found the right tweaks
21:21 < zelest> SNAX_74, That's good!
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21:21 < zelest> SNAX_74, I can advice you to add noatime on various filesystems. See mount(8) for more info on that one. :)
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21:22 < zelest> Especially if you run from a USB-stick
21:22 < uwharrie> ....I'm trying to enable soft updates, heard they'll make things faster :P
21:22 < zelest> Also, perhaps turn of disk-cache in Firefox to use RAM-only cache.
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21:22 < zelest> uwharrie, XD
21:22 < Bradipo> zelest: I tried that and I'm not sure it made any difference.
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21:23 < zelest> Bradipo, Which one?
21:23 < Bradipo> disable disk-cache in FF.
21:23 < SNAX_74> always double up on the SWAP size for physical memory
21:24 < SNAX_74> For example if you have 8GB memory - > pump your SWAP up to 16 GB
21:24 < sibiria> man you sound like you read some 1990s windows guide
21:24 < zelest> Well, if the OS is running from a USB-stick it's probably slow. The less disk-usage you can do, the better.
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21:24 < Bradipo> If you're on an 8GB USB stick, how do you do that?
21:24 < sibiria> you absolutely don't need twice your RAM as swap memory...
21:24 < zelest> If you restart Firefox, there's no cache at all, obviously. Making it slow on initial page loads.
21:24 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, No physical computer memory is 8GB
21:25 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, Portable USB OpenBSD is 64GB hardrive
21:25 < Bradipo> Ahh, got it.
21:25 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, There is a way to create OpenBSD Portable USB Hard Drives
21:26 < Bradipo> You mean run the installer and have it install to a thumbdrive?
21:26 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, basically you can take them with you and plug into laptops and tweak OpenBSD
21:27 < sibiria> Bradipo: i'd say it absolutely makes firefox snappier, but as zelest points out you need to actually keep firefox in the background so that it retains its in-RAM cache
21:27 < SNAX_74> I used GNU/Linux and Qemu to create them -> https://www.qemu.org/
21:27 < sibiria> as an alternative you can use a "disk"-cache but based on mfs/tmpfs
21:28 < SNAX_74> qemu - > A generic and open source machine emulator and virtualizer
21:28 < Bradipo> QEMU is too much effort.  Easier just to put the installer on a USB, then install to that same USB.
21:29 < zelest> Also, I'd say, run your machines with vm.malloc_conf=S and have things blow up.. then write patches to fix the broken code and have it commited. :)
21:29 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, Then I use BalenaEtcher to clone the drives
21:30 < Bradipo> Drives?  You distributing bootable OpenBSD thumbdrives like candy?
21:30 < uwharrie> USE_FLAGS=-O11 emerge OpenBSD
21:30 < SNAX_74> Bradipo, right
21:31 < zelest> Also, for performance on OpenBSD, I advice trying chromium :P
21:32 < SNAX_74> its basically a LiveOpenBSD system
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21:33 < zelest> That was... interesting.
21:36 < sibiria> i think he's nextgenhacker101 reincarnated
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21:36 < sibiria> https://www.youtube.com/user/NextGenHacker101
21:37 < zelest> Haha
21:37 < zelest> I still miss hacking with ramzi
21:38 < uwharrie> Either that or my former coworker that "solved" our mysql "slowness" by adding and tweaking every available tuning parameter at once and without comments or any measurements
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21:39 < zelest> uwharrie, just turn off fsync!
21:39 < zelest> webscale for everyone \o/
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