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00:15 < ssm_> coyote: cdn.openbsd.org actually just points you to whatever server it thinks is fastest. it seems it was wrong
00:16 < ssm_> I also like to use it so hopefully I'm not hammering the same server over and over every time I update
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00:22 < mischief> ssm_: are you use? i was under the impression that it is actually fastly serving the data.
00:22 < mischief> are you sure*
00:23 < ssm_> I forget if there was a faq on it
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00:24 < tommyrot> yeah thought it was fastly too
00:24 < mischief> ssm_: when i resolve cdn.openbsd.org it points to addresses within fastly's IP blocks
00:25 < coyote> yeah i was under the assumption that it's fastly serving it
00:25 < mischief> (you can check with ftp -o- https://api.fastly.com/public-ip-list)
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00:36 < coyote> it was a one time thing in any case, i downloaded some packages after install and it went at normal speed
00:36 < coyote> maybe i just got unlucky in the internet routing lottery
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00:56 < fro> GnarledHorn: https://t2.fi/schedule/2024/
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05:03 < mischief> -997311K INTRS
05:03 < mischief> signed counters are great
05:13 < dlg> sure are
05:22 < mischief> (systat(1), btw)
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05:29 < dlg> on the vm view?
05:30 < mischief> dlg: uvm
05:31 < mischief> dlg: https://0x0.st/XoPG.png
05:31 < dlg> tweaking the format string is probably good enough
05:32 < dlg> you watn to try?
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05:33 < mischief> let me see if i can update my source tree
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05:44 < mischief> dlg: the code's kind of twisty, trying to squint at uvm.c but i'm not sure what the actual type of the data is or where it's printed. did you have a diff?
05:47 < IcePic> look at systat format string?
05:47 < IcePic> or was uvm.c from systat/ ?
05:47 < mischief> ah. i see now.
05:47 < mischief> IcePic: uvm.c is in systat
05:47 < mischief> the real problem is that struct uvmexp uses all signed integers
05:48 < mischief> /usr/include/uvm/uvmexp.h
05:48 < avemestr> Another day to be happy one is using pf instead of telemetry-enabled proprietary offerings: "https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/17/palo-alto-networks-firewall-bug-under-attack-brings-fresh-havoc-to-thousands-of-companies/"
05:48 < avemestr> "Because the vulnerability allows hackers to gain complete control of an affected firewall over the internet without authentication, Palo Alto gave the bug a maximum severity rating."
05:50 < IcePic> last_uvmexp.intrs 
05:50 < IcePic> or uvmexp.intrs
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05:53 < IcePic> seems like it calls print_fld_ssize() on all values, so it seems to assume fields are all signed
05:54 < mischief> yep, the ints are promoted to int64_t and printed with %lld
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05:56 < IcePic> "do not get this many ints"
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07:16 < etwas> how can i get same package list installed on new station as on old one?
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07:19 < mischief> etwas: pkg_info -zm and pkg_add each of the output?
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07:20 < mischief> http://man.openbsd.org/pkg_add#l
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07:54 < Posterdati> hi
07:54 < Posterdati> please help, how can I install gcc-11? When I try to install it with pkg_add it gave me error about conflicts... Thanks!
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07:56 < IcePic> Posterdati: conflicts with .. ?
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07:57 < Posterdati> Can't install gcc-11.2.0p11 because of conflicts (.libs1-gcc-8.4.0p11,.libs1-gcc-8.4.0p15,.libs-gcc-8.4.0p18,gcc-8.4.0p20,.libs-gcc-8.4.0p13)
07:57 < IcePic> ok, so choose if you need gcc 8 at the same time or not
07:58 < Posterdati> how?
07:58 < IcePic> most of those seems to be able to get cleaned out with some luck, using "pkg_delete -a" (which uninstalls un-requested packages)
07:58 < Posterdati> ok
07:58 < IcePic> something you once installed seems to have pulled in gcc-8 libs a lot
07:59 < Posterdati> Can't install gcc-11.2.0p11 because of conflicts (gcc-8.4.0p20)
08:01 < Posterdati> fixed
08:01 < Posterdati> just deleted gcc-8.4 and its dependencies
08:01 < Posterdati> and reinstalled the 11 versions of all
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08:04 < Posterdati> IcePic: thanks
08:05 < IcePic> np
08:05 < Posterdati> so from 7.3 to 7.4 was painfull, 7.4 to 7.5 was painless, very good!
08:06 < Posterdati> I had no issue
08:06 < Posterdati> smooth and fast
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09:14 < StellarOrbit> Hello again. It seems the repos are still broken for me. I even reinstalled back to 7.5 release and tried to install packages
09:16 < Lucas6023> can you describe how your repos are broken?
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09:19 < StellarOrbit> This is what happens when I try to install a package, in this case firefox
09:19 < StellarOrbit> https://pastebin.com/p9LmHjbU
09:20 < StellarOrbit> Lucas6023 here is the pastebin https://pastebin.com/p9LmHjbU
09:21 < Lucas6023> and what is the content of /etc/installurl, sysctl kern.version?
09:22 < StellarOrbit> Lucas6023 https://pastebin.com/ute82V4h
09:22 < Lucas6023> so, you're running -current, but not an up-to-date -current
09:22 < Lucas6023> sysupgrade should solve t
09:23 < sonya> in case there's a pkg for -current
09:23 < StellarOrbit> Lucas6023 trying to upgrade now
09:24 < StellarOrbit> I guess the reinstall of a release didn't work becuse i did run the installer off my usb just a few minutes ago and thought it reinstalled
09:25 < Lucas6023> are you sure you were using the right bsd.rd?
09:25 < StellarOrbit> I thought I was.. I am still new to openbsd sorry
09:25 < Lucas6023> sonya: there is: one of the packages expects libc 100 while the system is running with 99
09:26 < StellarOrbit> Lucas6023 it's still not working for me
09:29 < sonya> StellarOrbit: are your choice is to stay on -current or to use a release (7.5)?
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09:30 < Lucas6023> same error? then it points to the mirror having desynced information. Give it a try with cdn.openbsd.org instead
09:30 < StellarOrbit> I wouldn't mind either. I only upgraded to -current because I need an up to date modesetting for my gpu 
09:30 < StellarOrbit> Lucas6023 ok I'll try that now
09:31 < StellarOrbit> I am gonna reinstall again and see if I can try to get that to work. brb
09:32 < Lucas6023> why reinstall tho?
09:33 < sonya> StellarOrbit: i'm not good with -current quirks, sorry.. for -release (7.5 now), especially if upgrade/downgrade occured, imho, it's worth to examine # pkg_check -Fmnv   , which will list all 'suspects'/leftovers on fs.. and couple it with # pkg_delete -as 
09:33 < sonya> examine first and then take required actions to clean things up
09:35 < Lucas6023> what's the point of "pkg_delete -as"?
09:36 < sonya> look at 'orphaned' pkgs or .pkgs
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09:37 < sonya> not always pkg_delete -a , imo, delete only .pkgs
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09:38 < Lucas6023> but "-s" doesn't do anything other than reporting the disk space saving
09:38 < sonya> -s prevents actual delete operation
09:38 < Lucas6023> so does "-n", which does exactly that and nothing else
09:39 < sonya> sure
09:39 < sonya> -as or -an .. i got used to -as
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11:06 < pardis> the libc shlib_version was bumped to 100 2 days ago, so new packages are probably still being built
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11:50 < brock> Hello. I recently updated to 7.5. A weirdness I discovered: when I ssh into the machine, and run tmux, and press "End" in a text file in nano, i get "unbound key". If I open a text file without tmux, "End" works as expected. Can anyone give me a tip on first steps to troubleshoot?
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12:01 < brock> Is it simply a matter of binding "go to the end of the current line" with the "End" button in tmux? I wonder what broke during the upgrade to 7.5, etc.
12:03 < Lucas6023> ncurses was updated from 5.7 to 6.4, which is a lot of room for things changing behaviour. 
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12:05 < Lucas6023> you could check with hexdump
12:05 < Lucas6023> what sequence "End" is generating, both inside and outside of tmux
12:08 < IcePic> and/or check difference in TERM outside and inside of tmux
12:09 < IcePic> if they differ, test "TERM=whatever-was-inside-tmux nano" outside of tmux and see if the error moves with the TERM setting
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12:40 < vortexx> https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20240418050520 <-- some nice speedups coming to -current and the next release network stack-wise
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12:48 < tercaL> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_JOkHaCdzk
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13:00 < sonya> tercaL: nfs3 related? 
13:02 < tercaL> So not in the default install, but with some nfs mount(s) configured it looks like. And looks like same code is in FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
13:02 < tercaL> sonya: ^^
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13:02 < sonya> ok
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13:03 < sonya> configured or misconfigured? it's an easy, imho, to screw nfs completely..
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13:09 < tercaL> sonya: https://securityonline.info/cve-2024-29937-critical-nfs-vulnerability-exposes-bsd-systems-to-remote-code-execution/?expand_article=1
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13:17 < GnarledHorn> For those following along at home, I've got a Dell 220 replacing the Dell 230s that were not working well with openbsd. I'll report back on that later today hopefully
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13:29 < sonya> tercaL: thanks.. 
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13:41 < vortexx> GnarledHorn: fingers crossed it goes better
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14:41 < GnarledHorn> thank you. So far, so good. If I get past ~5 hours uptime I'll consider it good
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14:46 < sibiria> 5 hours sounds ok. a bit more than the average lifespan of a Dell laptop
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15:03 < GnarledHorn> I use a "rugged" latitude for my laptop needs. It's been going strong on -current for about a year now
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15:03 < GnarledHorn> can't vouch for any others :)
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15:07 < seninha> Hi, how can I check whether there is a persisted doas(1) authentication in current tty?
15:09 < lts> You could run "doas -L" and ensure there is not
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15:12 < seninha> lts, I do not want to clear it or change/remove the persistedness, just check.
15:12 < sibiria> you could stop abusing doas and never have to worry
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15:29 < a1fa> hey
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15:29 < a1fa> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BL3K3JBN
15:29 < a1fa> i bought one of these to run openbsd on it
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15:30 < a1fa> as a youtube media center attached to the tv
15:30 < zelest> neat
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15:31 < a1fa> it's a bit hot.. 48C
15:31 < Lucas6023> seninha: doas -n?
15:31 < sibiria> a1fa: to be expected since openbsd has no native support for hardware-accelerated video decoding
15:31 < a1fa> any youtube player recommendations that would be favorable to mouseless operation? think wireless keyboard and i3wm
15:31 < Lucas6023> but with something that will always work, like `doas -n true`
15:32 < a1fa> sibiria: i have not tried youtubes on it yet
15:32 < sibiria> oh. be prepared for it to get even hotter then
15:32 < sibiria> amazon probably sells cheap fire extinguishers, too
15:32 < a1fa> sibiria: it will probably get sent back to amazon for a refund
15:33 < sibiria> yt-dlp -> mpv
15:33 < sibiria> unless openbsd's mpv is built with ytdl/yt-dlp. not sure
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15:34 < a1fa> let me know if anyone needs any info from this box
15:34 < zelest> it is
15:34 < zelest> mpv <url> :D
15:34 < a1fa> hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=52.00 degC
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15:37 < miah> cook an egg on it?
15:38 < a1fa> good idea
15:38 < a1fa> the surface is textured
15:38 < a1fa> some kind of plastic
15:38 < a1fa> btw, when did passwd become a picky b****
15:39 < Lucas6023> never? I regularly set "qwerty123" as the root password for the initial install
15:39 < sibiria> it'll give in after 3 complaints
15:39 < tommyrot> temp is well within spec so i wouldn't worry about it
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15:39 < aesthetics> speaking of yt-dlp and mpv, is there a way to select the quality directly from mpv ? (i'm not sure); i'm used to `mpv $(yt-dlp -gf <format> <url>)`
15:39 < a1fa> 1073741824 bytes transferred in 27.836 secs (38572833 bytes/sec)
15:39 < a1fa> ^ emc performance 
15:39 < phy1729> mpv can play yt URLs directly
15:39 < a1fa> if anyone cares
15:40 < aesthetics> phy1729: yeah, but what about quality selection ?
15:40 < phy1729> It's been good enough to not bother ime
15:41 < sonya> aesthetics: mpv --ytdl-format=18  --loop-playlist  "$@"
15:41 < sonya> yt-dlp -F "$@"
15:41 < aesthetics> :o
15:42 < aesthetics> thanks :o
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15:42 < aesthetics> (same format that i use, btw)
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15:48 < a1fa> ubuntu is the new windows
15:48 < sibiria> i like those small mini PCs but for media-only use i prefer one of those lil' dinky Android TV boxes
15:49 < sibiria> of course DMZed properly, because all of those chinese android builds always exhibit highly suspicious call-home behavior
15:49 < a1fa> i am tired of android/youtube ads
15:49 < a1fa> and there is no way i'd type in my googles password into cca
15:50 < a1fa> nothing against fellow chinese
15:50 < a1fa> i am sure its safe
15:50 < sibiria> though you could run ytdl on android
15:50 < sibiria> i'm sure it's *not* safe, because, boy, they really do call home to china a lot :D
15:50 < sibiria> source: me, owning three of those
15:51 < a1fa> its analytics
15:51 < a1fa> ;)
15:51 < sibiria> yeah. "forgotten development feature"
15:51 < a1fa> i used to work for a mobile shop.. we sent a lot of shit back home for analytics and marketing purposes
15:51 < a1fa> the shit data you collect, and never use
15:51 < a1fa> like how many seconds did someone hover over an option
15:52 < a1fa> nothing neferious, or location tracking.. just garbage analytics data for ux improvements
15:52 < a1fa> i am sure fellow Chinese are doing the same ;)
15:52 < tommyrot> except they never update their firmwares or software
15:52 < a1fa> great people, love the food
15:53 < a1fa> tommyrot: ;)
15:53 < a1fa> we dont talk about bruno or supply chain issues
15:53 < a1fa> verbotten! :)
15:53 < a1fa> so, youtube player recommendaitons?
15:53 < sibiria> or as in huawei's case with their phones, wrapping exactly everything up - browser bookmarks and cookies, contact book, call history, SMS history incl. texts, Pictures list with checksums and filenames, list of installed apps + granted permissions, etc. - and uploading to various chinese servers
15:53 < sibiria> "just analytics"
15:53 < a1fa> plasmatube or minitube?
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15:58 < a1fa> is it possible to make xenodm login automatically, or do i just need to disable xenodm, and do some doas trickery in rc.conf.local?
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16:04 < a1fa> good news
16:05 < a1fa> no frame drops 1080p@60hz in firefox
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16:19 < prahou> a1fa: yes, add this to xenodm config:
16:19 < prahou> DisplayManager.*.autoLogin: YOUR_USERNAME"
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16:23 < sonya> a1fa: could you please post for 5105 the output of $ dmesg | grep cpu0 | grep -i speed
16:23 < sonya> thanks in advance
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16:32 < sibiria> sonya: Enhanced SpeedStep 798 MHz: speeds: 2001, 2000, 1900, 1800, 1700, 1600, 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200, 1100, 1000, 900, 800 MHz
16:33 < sibiria> N5105 on odroid H3
16:33 < betabug> the kick you feel when it goes from 2000 to 2001!!
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16:33 < sibiria> well, 2001 is the boost signifier :)
16:33 < sibiria> which in this case is 2.4 or 2.6 ghz, i think
16:34 < sibiria> rather strange "scheme", but then again it's Intel
16:34 < sonya> sibiria: thanks.. so no option to go below 800..
16:34 < sibiria> not in this board's implementation at least
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16:37 < sonya> i'm comparing with my n95.. it reports 800-1.7 but irl, imho, it's a bit faster, than 5105.. or it's just a my subjective moo
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16:43 < a1fa> sonya: yep
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16:44 < a1fa> sonya: cpu0: 3900 MHz: speeds: 3900 1700 1400 MHz
16:44 < a1fa> wait.. wrong box ;)
16:44 < a1fa> sorry
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16:45 < sonya> a1fa: thanks, sibiria already posted info, guess you've got the same
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17:06 < a1fa> cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2893 MHz: speeds: 2001, 2000, 1900, 1800, 1700, 1600, 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200, 1100, 1000, 900, 800 MHz
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17:12 < a1fa> time to start testing some of these youtube apps
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17:14 < a1fa> hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=44.00
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17:34 < sonya> a1fa: apmd_flags=-L  ; obsdfreqd_flags=-m 100 -l 1 -T 50 -S hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0   .. should keep things at minimum, imho
17:38 < a1fa> thank you
17:38 < a1fa> sonya: no frame drops @ 1080p with apmd -A setting
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17:38 < a1fa> now the bummer.. the audio device does not work :(
17:39 < a1fa> dmesg | grep audio
17:39 < a1fa> audio0 at azalia0
17:39 < a1fa> "Intel Jasper Lake HD Audio" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 not configured
17:39 < a1fa> azalia0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel Jasper Lake HD Audio" rev 0x01: msi
17:39 < a1fa> audio0 at azalia0
17:39 < a1fa> so technically it should work, right?
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17:50 < sonya> a1fa: compare
17:50 < sonya> azalia0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel ADL-N HD Audio" rev 0x00: msi
17:50 < sonya> azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC269
17:50 < sonya> audio0 at azalia0
17:51 < sonya> dmassage helps to see the dev tree
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20:55 < sonya> hmm..
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20:57 < sonya> Trying to load "libopenal.so"... Error while reading shared library symbols: Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 4, should be 2) [in module /usr/libexec/ld.so]  
20:57 < sonya> Trying to load "libopenal.so"... Error while reading shared library symbols: Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 4, should be 2) [in module /usr/libexec/ld.so]  
20:57 < Bradipo> Yeah, you said that already.
20:58 < sonya> sorry
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20:58 < Bradipo> Haha, I'm not accusing you of a sin.
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20:58 < sonya> any advise where to look for a cure? it'q ioquake3 from pkgs, but the same i saw for local build, didn't dig it deep enough though
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21:01 < polarian> vortexx: can't find a mirror which has 7.1 or 7.2 files... if you can give me one I would highly appreciate it, I only see 7.3, 7.4 and 7.5 (and 7.3 didn't even boot...)
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21:03 < sonya> and my dial-up is a such a dial-up..
21:03 < sonya> polarian: ftp://ftp.spline.de/pub/OpenBSD/7.2/amd64/
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21:04 < polarian> sonya: and one for 7.1?
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21:06 < sonya> polarian:  ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/OpenBSD/
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21:06 < polarian> oh perfect they have all the way down to 2.0
21:06 < polarian> thanks sonya 
21:06 < polarian> is there a way you checked quickly, or did you literally check mirror by mirror?
21:06 < sonya> np, you're welcome
21:07 < Bradipo> mirror by mirror, likely.
21:07 < polarian> yikes...
21:07 < sonya> i literally some time ago put'em in favs..
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21:47 < sonya> hmm.. got ioquake3 from git, build it and received the same error: Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 4, should be 2) [in module /usr/libexec/ld.so]
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21:49 < Bradipo> Perhaps some #ifdef missing in ioquake3 sources for OpenBSD?
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21:52 < sonya> Bradipo: the same error with ioquake3 from packages/ports.. and the same i got with some/several other local builds
21:52 < sonya> smth wrong
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