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04:12 < penne> ahimsa: systemd is an abomination but here https://github.com/InitWare/InitWare
04:17 < penne> goodmorning, fishies btw. anyone here got monerd successfully running? I've compiled the v0.18.3.3 tag and monerod is giving me "Error opening database: Failed to open lmdb environment: No space left on device". I even raised openfiles to 8192 to no avail.
04:18 < penne> s/monerd/monerod/
04:19 < mischief> it may be the memory size, not open files
04:19 < mischief> IIRC, LMDB tries to mmap, maybe it tries to preallocate a huge database
04:21 < penne> mischief: yeah i can see "Running on OpenBSD: forcing WRITEMAP" earlier in the log. do i raise memorylocked or memoryuse in login.conf?
04:21 < mischief> no clue, might be helpful to find out what size its trying to allocate.. could be huge if it was made for linux :)
04:22 < penne> oh haha. alright thx for the pointers :3
04:22 < mischief> maybe set datasize to 16G and try?
04:22 < penne> i have only 4G lmao ;-;
04:22 < penne> alright
04:24 < mischief> it looks like it wants 1G?
04:24 < mischief> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/c8214782fb2a769c57382a999eaf099691c836e7/src/lmdb/database.cpp#L49C36-L49C46
04:25 < phy1729> penne: People were doing so well just ignoring the troll.
04:25 < mischief> not sure if that's the right repo
04:26 < penne> mischief: oh interesting lemme see. yeah this is the right one
04:27 < penne> phy1729: they can actually run systemd according to initware tho :b
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06:20 < brittluna> https://www.bsdnow.tv/559
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06:47 < remiliascarlet> SystemD is an init system for those who don't understand what an init system is.
06:48 < remiliascarlet> And have no respect to the purpose of PID 0.
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08:03 < penne> mischief: eyy it worked! i gave up and went back to working on a website that uses uwsgi and got a similar error "uwsgi_lock_ipcsem_init()/semget(): No space left on device [core/lock.c line 514]" I remember solvving it by raising semaphore values so I went back to this article https://www.tumfatig.net/2021/running-the-searx-metasearch-engine-on-openbsd/#configure-openbsd and added the config to
08:03 < penne> my /etc/sysctl.conf. thanks for troubleshooting with me by the way. leaving this here in case anyone faces a similar problem. i think i should add it to monero's readme too
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08:05 < mischief> strange
08:05 < penne> so yeah tldr; monerod needs higher semaphore values set with sysctl
08:05 < penne> yeah
08:07 < penne> ig its also because of the restrictive nature of the bsd's. uwsgi has a note about it https://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ThingsToKnow.html
08:09 < mischief> maybe just due to how lmdb was compiled in monero
08:09 < mischief> i was kind of surprised it even uses semaphores, but it seems it's a compile time choice https://github.com/LMDB/lmdb/blob/88d0531d3ec3a592cdd63ca77647d31c568c24bc/libraries/liblmdb/mdb.c#L5357
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08:12 < penne> oo interesting
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08:13 < penne> brittluna: thx for introducing me to this. was a fun listen
08:13 < brittluna> penne: np
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17:44 < chilledfrogs> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with getting IPv6 to work on a OpenBSD VPS with a static /128 address and am running out of ideas: I followed the example given in route(8) first (as the gateway does appear to be on a different prefix) and then even tried to adapt a bit from a IONOS support article but no dice, DNS resolution seems to work from ping6 but no packets get returned (with or without pf enabled)
17:53 < byteskeptical> chilledfrogs: what's in your hostname. file?
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18:06 < chilledfrogs> inet <static IP> 0xffffff80
18:06 < chilledfrogs> inet6 <static IP> 128
18:06 < chilledfrogs> !route add -inet6 <gateway> -cloning -link -iface vio0
18:06 < chilledfrogs> !route add -inet6 default <gateway>
18:07 < chilledfrogs> I tried putting the last 2 (well with the last command simplified accordingly) in /etc/mygate too, no difference
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18:26 < sibiria> chilledfrogs: usually it should suffice with just "inet6 <ip> <prefix>" in hostname.if, and the ipv6 gateway in /etc/mygate
18:27 < chilledfrogs> It should, but you see, twist is I can't do that because as I mentioned, the gateway is on a somewhat different prefix
18:27 < chilledfrogs> And therefore route complains if I don't do this workaround in the first place, except then even this workaround seems to basically not work
18:27 < sibiria> that should work, too. i have a similar situation
18:28 < sibiria> my host's ipv6 gateway is on fe80:
18:28 < sibiria> while the actual ipv6 address i'm getting is not in a private prefix
18:32 < chilledfrogs> The gateway I was given wasn't link-local
18:34 < sibiria> i'm not sure that would matter, but i know absolutely nothing about networking
18:34 < chilledfrogs> I see 😅 unfortunately I'm not as knowledgeable as I'd like especially with IPv6 either
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18:37 < chilledfrogs> Nope, no difference, tested
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18:38 < sibiria> just to underline, my hostname.if has just two lines - the ipv4 declaration and the ipv6 one. does not invoke route etc.
18:39 < sibiria> route is set purely by having an ipv6 ip address (and nothing else) in mygate
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18:41 < chilledfrogs> Understood, that's what I tried
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18:58 < cjs> Is gcc and/or any other GPL code still required to compile the OS? <-- Asking for clarification as I work on my BSDCan talk
19:00 < thrig> some weird archs don't have clang
19:01 < sibiria> gcc no longer necessary. not sure if the base system has any GPL stuff left, but i suspect one or two things
19:02 < oldlaptop> base gdb comes to mind
19:02 < thrig> perl is dual artistic/gpl
19:03 < oldlaptop> cvs is a big one, I guess
19:04 < oldlaptop> practically speaking one uses that "to compile the OS"
19:04 < ssm_> sibiria: there's a good amount of gnutils left: texinfo, cvs, binutils, mkhybrid
19:04 < ssm_> check /usr/src/gnu
19:04  * oldlaptop didn't realize mkhybrid was GPL
19:05 < ssm_> it is, just checked COPYING
19:05 < oldlaptop> do note that not everything under gnu/ is (solely) GPL (or connected to gnu)
19:06 < cjs> thrig: sibiria: oldlaptop: ssm_: Thanks. Good stuff. And yes, CVS and git both being GPL, and OpenBSD currently being on CVS and probably switching to git (via GOT), does mean that GPL code will be 'required' for compilation for the forseeable future.
19:06 < oldlaptop> I believe the commit message plunking llvm there made some joke about "Gigantic, Nasty, and Unavoidable"
19:07 < sibiria> right, cvs is GPL. fundamental component
19:07 < phy1729> oldlaptop: src/gnu/README too
19:07 < uwharrie> http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/README?rev=1.24&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup is probably the biggest one if you're limiting yourself to things needed to build
19:08 < vortexx> https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20240517092416 sshd is getting split into multiple binaries
19:09 < Bradipo> Interesting.  Very djb-esque.
19:09 < cjs> phy1729: uwharrie: Thanks for that stuff, too. Much to explore.
19:09 < vortexx> I was musing the other day that ssh hadn't fundamentally changed in like 20 years... Well here it is
19:09 < vortexx> even if it's not the protocol changing
19:11 < cjs> vortexx: Theo has expressed some dismay at SSH's ubiquity because ubiquity is antithetical to security. Presumably, changes like this inside OpenBSD will help set it apart enough to ensure that is stays the most secure, even if only at first implementation.
19:11 < oldlaptop> offhand, not looking at source: is that even all that fundamental? other than having a bunch of code out of virtual memory entirely in each process, wouldn't that be more or less evolutionary from the existing privsep model?
19:11 < Bradipo> cjs: I'm glad Theo approves of me keeping some variety in the world by running qmail. :-)
19:12 < vortexx> cjs: I hadn't heard that, but I'm not surprised. 
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19:12 < cjs> oldlaptop: The undeadly article is about a first step toward fragmentation for obscurity.
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19:13 < cjs> Bradipo: ++
19:14 < uwharrie> my reading is that it's more about principle of least privilege than it is about obscurity
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19:14 < Bradipo> While we're on the topic of security... is anyone aware of a way to do one time passwords with httpd(8) and HTTP AUTH?
19:14 < phy1729> Was ssh already doing the fork+execve to re-randomize memory layout?
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19:24 < cjs> phy1729: I do not know, but I look forward to reading an informed answer or being directed to one :)
19:25 < cjs> uwharrie: Yes, yes. Good catch.
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19:38 < sibiria> Bradipo: there's no simple way, whether HOTP or TOTP
19:38 < sibiria> TOTP somewhat simpler since you can update e.g. htpasswd files from a central point
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19:39 < Bradipo> Not talking about HOTP/TOTP.
19:40 < Bradipo> Though I suppose one might ask "what's the difference?"
19:40 < sibiria> and openbsd httpd (unlike e.g. nginx) can't manage arbitrary header/value actions
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19:40 < sibiria> HOTP and TOTP are OTPs. HOTP a genuine one, TOTP only in the temporal sense
19:40 < Bradipo> I understand that.
19:40 < Bradipo> I'm not talking about 6 digit or even 9 digit one time codes.
19:41 < Bradipo> Time based or otherwise.
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19:41 < Lucas6023> phy1729: I think sshd was the first to use fork + reexec
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19:41 < hwciel> Hi. I'm trying to configure an OpenBSD firewall. I've got two three macros setup in pf. trusted=igc0, untrusted=igc1, lan={$trusted,$untrusted}. However, whenever I use $lan in a rule, it tells me that I have invalid syntax. If I replace $lan with {$trusted,$untrusted} then the configuration passes. Are nested macros not allowed?
19:41 < sibiria> the syntax of the OTP is sort of irrelevant. technically you face the same problem
19:42 < Lucas6023> hwciel: lan="{" $trusted $untrusted "}"
19:42 < hwciel> Ah, such a simple fix, thanks.
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19:44 < Bradipo> sibiria: Fair enough, how the data is presented of less importance certainly.
19:45 < Bradipo> I suppose one would have to write a custom authenticator for httpd(8).
19:46 < hwciel> Lucas6023: Now what if I want to do a rule that contains something like '''antispoof quick for { egress $lan }''', I can't seem to figure out how to properly write that either. I put the brackets in quotes but it doesn't like that still.
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19:54 < Lucas6023> hwciel: the tables aren't "recursive"
19:54 < Lucas6023> you'll need a new egress_and_lan macro
19:55 < hwciel> Ah, ok. No one liner then. Thanks for the help
19:59 < Lucas6023> np
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20:25 < joe9> what is the serial console configuration of VMM's serial console? b115200, I assume. What about the parity and stop bits?
20:26 < sibiria> 8N1
20:27 < sibiria> but you don't need to worry about dialing in. vmctl can attach to the vmm and handle all of that for you
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20:28 < joe9> sibiria: vmctl connects fine. But, the output from my kernel shows multiple characters.
20:28 < joe9> So, I figure the vmctl parameters are not in sync with what my kernel expects.
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23:57 < morpho> how does the pf scrub functionality work? like random-id and no-df. Where can I read further about this?
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