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02:08 < mikeal>  /3
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02:48 < jrmu> Anyone have any ideas about: https://paste.ircnow.org/05ejwpmf4hi74xuz0h2n 
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07:56 < erchache2000> I'm using openbsd 7.5 macppc and xfce-extras has a lot of packages lost
07:57 < erchache2000> I tried different mirrors without success
07:57 < erchache2000> Do i need to compile xfce instead macppc precompiled binaries?
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09:12 < Posterdati> hi
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09:12 < brittluna> hi
09:12 < Posterdati> please help, is it possible to make unbound resolve LAN hosts? Thanks!
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09:17 < renaud> Posterdati: yes, it's possible. Check "private-domain:"
09:18 < Posterdati> renaud: thanks
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10:03 < Posterdati> renaud: unbound is very tricky
10:04 < Posterdati> renaud: I'm able to dns query and reverse dns query a lan host with dig, but ssh and ping could not find the host...
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10:06 < sibiria> because the host name was in /etc/hosts
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10:07 < sibiria> was not* and nothing pointing to it in resolv.conf
10:07 < sibiria> there are a few settings to control whether or not private networks can be returned as response
10:07 < Posterdati> sibiria: yes I want to not use /etc/hosts
10:09 < Posterdati> sibiria: seems that unbound is using the external dns to resolve the name
10:09 < sibiria> one is "private-domain"
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10:09 < sibiria> you can also define your own "local-zone"
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10:10 < Posterdati> local-zone: "homelab.local." static
10:11 < sibiria> and then you provide some local-data for that
10:11 < Posterdati> I did
10:11 < sibiria> you will probably also need to allow the zone to return private networks using "private-domain"
10:12 < Posterdati> local-data: "ATHLON.homelab.local IN A 192.168.254.25"
10:12 < sibiria> private-domain: "homelab.local"
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10:12 < Posterdati> sibiria: yes
10:12 < sibiria> do you also have a forward-zone for "." in this config?
10:12 < Posterdati> yes
10:12 < sibiria> because that's a problem
10:13 < sibiria> it will be prioritized
10:13 < Posterdati> yes
10:13 < sibiria> yes
10:13 < Posterdati> I have forward-first: yes
10:13 < Posterdati> should I have to add another forward-zone?
10:13 < sibiria> there's no easy solution in unbound to have a "catch all" forward-zone for ".", and local-zones
10:14 < Posterdati> :(
10:14 < sibiria> there "." forward zone will eat everything
10:14 < sibiria> i think the only solution is to set up a stub zone, but i haven't experimented enough with it
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10:15 < Posterdati> nice
10:17 < sibiria> ideally unbound would have a server setting, "local zone first" or so
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10:28 < sonya> mmm... ? $ man nsd ? .. imho, nsd - for LAN/locals, unbound - for the world.. other way - try smth like dnsmasq
10:28 < Posterdati> ok not working :)
10:29 < sibiria> running nsd next to unbound for this purpose would be a let-down. i *think* it is possible to have unbound do all of it with stub zones somehow
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10:57 < Posterdati> :(
10:59 < Posterdati> sibiria: private-address seems to remove addresses from DNS response...
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11:05 < sibiria> Posterdati: not private-address, private-DOMAIN
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11:27 < sonya> could you please remind me is there a "standard"/documented way how to regenerate/recreate /etc/ssh/ssh_host_{ecdsa,rsa,ed25519}_key.pub after domain name change? thanks
11:29 < sibiria> ssh-keygen -t ed25519 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519
11:29 < sonya> and repeat for the rest.. ok.. thanks
11:30 < sibiria> you can also run "ssh-keygen -A", but then you have no control over the specifics
11:30 < sibiria> you don't need to do this just because the hostname changes
11:30 < sonya> i'm worried about defaults actually
11:31 < sonya> and those keys seems to have impact on smtpd at least
11:33 < sibiria> hm? smtpd does not use those keys, unless you somehow point to them in the config
11:33 < sibiria> but again, you don't need regen the keys just because the hostname changed - the last field in the ssh pubkeys (root@blah) is just a comment. it's not part of any signature or so. you can simply edit it directly in the key
11:34 < sonya> so i did - vi *key.pub 
11:36 < sibiria> i have a habit of always regenerating the keys, even on openbsd
11:36 < sonya> smtpd i tweaked a bit and had some buzz on domain/hostname change without proper restart.. and there was smth with keys - guess it's just local/my experiments
11:36 < sibiria> though openbsd finally defaults to 4096 bits for the RSA these days i think
11:36 < sonya> need to check defs, yeah
11:37 < renaud> Posterdati: private-address is a field you can define with your own network. It will prevent DNS rebinding attacks. However, that will also prevent to return anything inside your range, unless you "whietlist" the domain with "private-domain"
11:37 < sibiria> ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096 ... :p
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11:47 < Posterdati> renaud: the porblem is that unbound always look for names from outer dns from forward-zone
11:48 < Posterdati> forward-zone named "." as sibiria said
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12:44 < Posterdati> I think I solved 
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12:44 < Posterdati> sibiria, renaud, resolvd places nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf, I disabled resolvd and place nameserver 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf
12:45 < Posterdati> for the unbound server itself
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12:50 < welcome> HELO
12:50 < welcome> I am installing OpenBSD 7.5 ARM64 on a Raspberry Pi 4
12:50 < welcome> I need some help setting it up for HDMI
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12:51 < sibiria> Posterdati: yes that's how it should be done
12:51 < welcome> I read the posts and need to ask a few questions regarding install75.img and configuring boot.conf, if this is doable
12:51 < sibiria> and don't forget the "lookup" line if you need anything from /etc/hosts
12:52 < sibiria> typically "lookup file bind" to first look in hosts file, before querying dns
12:52 < Posterdati> sibiria: I placed "lookup bind"
12:53 < Posterdati> so at least, wasn't unbound the problem, but resolvd which was not the case to use
12:53 < Posterdati> I do not remember why it was running!
12:54 < sibiria> i think you should have "lookup file bind", to get fast and safe resolutions for "localhost"
12:55 < Posterdati> mmh ok
12:55 < Posterdati> ok done!
12:56 < Posterdati> sibiria, renaud: thanks for help
12:56 < welcome> can I put a /etc/booot.conf on the install disk before using? the keyboard doesn't initialise until after the HDMI becomes unreadable
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12:58 < Posterdati> openbsd is truly amazing... Is there anything it cannot do? :) I use it as router, asterisk server, sbcl server and it is outstanding even on > 10 years ago machines!
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12:58 < Posterdati> not to mention vmm
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12:59 < sibiria> welcome: give it a go. write the image then open it on another openbsd system and poke around
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13:00 < sibiria> else you'll have to build your own image
13:00 < welcome> can I just put a /etc/boot.conf?
13:00 < Posterdati> I used it from 6.0
13:00 < sibiria> welcome: but what's the problem you're trying to solve?
13:02 < welcome> I can boot the Pi but onec it gets past the openbsd kernel boot prompt HDMI drops out. Apparently one has to configure "set tty fb0" in boot.conf. I can't find this file in the image filesystem, sibiria so I don't knowwhere if it is in fact possible I should put the file
13:03 < sibiria> welcome: you can do that on the boot prompt
13:03 < sibiria> just press any key and automatic boot will be interrupted
13:03 < welcome> I know, BUT...
13:03 < sibiria> yeah you just have to time it
13:03 < sibiria> press space every 2 seconds or something
13:03 < sibiria> then backspace a few times, and:
13:03 < sibiria> set tty fb0
13:03 < sibiria> boot
13:03 < welcome> the keyboard doesn't become resposive until *after* the kernel boots, ... which is after HDMI drops out
13:04 < sibiria> did you try switch the USB connector? the Pis are a bit weird, sometimes one port works from start, sometimes only after
13:04 < welcome> the keyboard lights do not flash until after the kernel loads
13:05 < welcome> before that,.... no keyboard : (
13:05 < sibiria> i'd try switching to another USB port
13:05 < welcome> ok
13:05 < welcome> I will try this
13:05 < welcome> BUT
13:05 < sibiria> i've read other Pi users mentioning the same problem and solution, and i experienced it myself on the Pine64 SBCs
13:06 < welcome> Can you tel me where I would put a boot.conf , befoire I do?
13:06 < sonya> "set tty fb0" - for M1 (apple) looks like also needed
13:06 < sibiria> it goes into /etc. i don't know if the install kernel is a special case that might read from /
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13:07 < welcome> I will try it first, then try changing USB ports
13:07 < welcome> thankyou
13:07 < welcome> back soon...
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13:23 < welcome> OK
13:23 < welcome> I tried adding /etc/boot.conf
13:23 < welcome> that didn't work
13:24 < welcome> I tried changing the USB ports around
13:24 < welcome> that didn't work
13:25 < sibiria> on my pine64 i had to switch USB port "vertically", from upper to lower, or lower to upper, can't recall which
13:26 < sibiria> one row worked at start, other not until kernel was loaded
13:26 < sibiria> but
13:26 < sibiria> can you tell me what you have in /etc/ttys?
13:26 < sibiria> on the install disk
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13:26 < welcome> where is /etc
13:26 < welcome> on the install filesystem?
13:27 < sibiria> on the install image file system, yes
13:27 < sibiria> one label on that disk will have the root file system with the kernel
13:27 < sibiria> that's /
13:27 < welcome> ok
13:27 < welcome> I coudn't see one
13:27 < welcome> I'll look again now
13:27 < sibiria> so you found the label where the kernel was at least?
13:28 < sibiria> and in there you made the /etc dir, and placed boot.conf in there?
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13:30 < welcome> I made a /boot
13:30 < welcome> I have added a /etc
13:31 < welcome> with the conf in it
13:31 < welcome> let me try again
13:31 < sibiria> the /etc directory belongs in the same place where the kernel is
13:31 < sibiria> that's the / (root)
13:31 < welcome> ]ok
13:32 < welcome> here I go again
13:32 < welcome> back soon
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13:54 < welcome> ok
13:54 < welcome> installation complete
13:54 < welcome> wow
13:54 < welcome> Now I get similar stuckedness at the Password: prompt (I elected for encrypted disk)
13:55 < welcome> no flashing cursor
13:55 < welcome> no keyboard
13:55 < welcome> I will do some research first before asking about it
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15:16 < remiliascarlet> I came across a very weird bug. On OpenBSD, `uint64_t` is an `unsigned long long`, but on every other UNIX-like OS it's `unsigned long`.
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15:18 < __gilles> uint64_t is 64-bits
15:18 < inz> Yeah, that's not a bug
15:18 < __gilles> it's there so that you don't think in terms of how many bits is an unsigned long or an unsigned long long on this platform
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15:19 < inz> It would also be unsigned long long on a 32-bit Linux system
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15:20 < welcome> I love Raspberry Pi
15:21  * welcome smiles inwardly... reminds me of "Hello world!"
15:21 < welcome> bye
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15:27 < sibiria> imo it's a bit of a throw-off that unsigned long is 64 bits on many systems, just like ulong long, instead of sticking to its standardized minimum
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15:28 < remiliascarlet> __gilles: I see, so I guess it's better to specifically use `unsigned long` instead of `uint64_t` to make it consistent across all platforms then.
15:28 < sibiria> no. it's better to use fixed types
15:28 < sibiria> because they are... fixed
15:29 < sibiria> the standard c types have no upper limit, only a fixed lowest limit
15:29 < sibiria> they can vary - and they do
15:29 < remiliascarlet> Doesn't seem fixed to me if it's `unsigned long long` on OpenBSD only, and `unsigned long` everywhere else.
15:29 < sibiria> uint64_t isn't "unsigned long long". it's unsigned long long that's 64 bits
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15:30 < sibiria> uint64_t = 64 bits, always, everywhere. it's the whole point of stdint.h
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15:30 < sibiria> unsigned long is "at least 32 bits". unsigned long long is "at least 64 bits". there's no more consistency than that
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15:32 < remiliascarlet> Then I guess the problem would be somewhere else in the code, considering that my program only bugs out on OpenBSD, and it also happens to be the only one where uint64_t is a different thing.
15:32 < thrig> saying things without proof is easy
15:33 < sibiria> uint64_t from stdint.h is identical everywhere, but unsigned long (long long) isn't the same everywhere. i'm guessing what you're actually running into is the latter being different
15:33 < sibiria> (and long long*)
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15:33 < thrig> also, OpenBSD is well known to be hostile to poorly written code
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15:34 < remiliascarlet> Then try it out for yourself then. Define some value as uint64_t, do `printf("%lu\n", VARIABLE);`, try to compile it on each platform, then modify to `printf("%ldd\n", VARIABLE);`, compile again.
15:34 < sibiria> type formating is one typical case where this often becomes an obstacle. there are printf/sscanf/sprintf for stdint types
15:34 < sibiria> remiliascarlet: inttypes.h
15:34 < sibiria> standardized as part of c99
15:35 < sibiria> what you're seeing is exactly what i said: unsigned long (lu) etc. is not of fixed size and can differ from one OS to the other
15:37 < IcePic> probably best to look at those PRI-something macros like PRIdLEAST64
15:37 < IcePic> or PRIuLEAST64
15:37 < sibiria> yep; inttypes.h
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15:42 < IcePic> this shows what a mess it was moving from 32 to 64bits and how many OSes chose differently: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/ibm-mq/9.1?topic=platforms-standard-data-types-unix-linux-windows
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15:44 < sibiria> i'm glad openbsd stuck with using the standardized minimums and retaining an actual difference between long and long long
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15:54 < remiliascarlet> Alright, I see what causes the problem: the gpgme is just a buggy mess.
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16:14 < phy1729> If you're using uint64_t, you should use PRIu64 in the format string
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16:23 < remiliascarlet> I already established that it wasn't uint64_t causing the bug after all.
16:23 < remiliascarlet> After some printf'ing, I noticed I forgot to null terminate. So it was my own fault after all.
16:25 < IcePic> always null-terminate your uint64_t's. ;)
16:25 < phy1729> It's still a bug to print a uint64_t without PRIu64 (or PRIx64 etc)
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16:42 < caze> remiliascarlet: You haven't established anything. Undefined behavior can pop up in surprising ways.
16:42 < caze> And why do you need to null terminate an array of uint64_t anyway?
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17:32 < caze> remiliascarlet: If you use unsigned long long, then you are guaranteed that it will be at least 64 bits on all platforms, and you just have to take some (very minimal) measures to trim excess bits in the relatively rare case that ULLONG_MAX is greater than 2^64 - 1.
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17:52 < jrmu> Anyone have ideas for why my routing of IPv6 from vether0 (2602:fccf:400:41::1) to em1 (2602:fccf:400:41::) is failing? https://paste.ircnow.org/sxq3852zw9uf4xm3gt6b
17:52 < jrmu> I've been looking into this for several hours, can't seem to figure out the cause
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18:34 < lts> jrmu: what does "sysctl -a | grep forward" return?
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18:35 < jrmu> net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
18:35 < jrmu> net.inet.ip.mforwarding=0
18:35 < jrmu> net.inet6.ip6.forwarding=1
18:35 < jrmu> net.inet6.ip6.mforwarding=0
18:35 < jrmu> ip6 and ip4 forwarding should be turned on
18:36 < jrmu> I can't seem to get 2602:fccf:400:41::1 to forward packets to 2602:fccf:400:41::
18:36 < jrmu> I think something is messed up in my routing tables, that's my best guess
18:38 < jrmu> I think this could be solved if I could somehow tell route to set 2602:fccf:400:41:: as the default gateway for all packets from 2602:fccf:400:41::1
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18:42 < sibiria> do you have a pf rule to actually nat the packets between the two interfaces?
18:43 < sibiria> i don't think they'll jump on their own just because there's a route?
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21:22 < jrmu> sibiria: sorry for delay, there's no pf rule to redirect/forward the packets. The interesting thing is the IPv4 packets are automatically forwarded from vether to em1 (from 104.167.241.49 to 104.167.241.211) without any packet filtering redirect/NAT rules
21:22 < jrmu> I tend to think it should be possible with just routing tables, but will research more
21:23 < jrmu> Only IPv6 is not working but IPv4 forwarding is working fine
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21:23 < jrmu> the route tables even look the same for the two address families, adding to my confusion
21:23 < sibiria> just routing table might work if the interfaces are bridged
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21:24 < sibiria> other than that, packets should not be able to jump from one interface to another without pf doing the translation
21:24 < jrmu> oh, do I need to set up a virtual bridge for that, hmm
21:24 < jrmu> they are currently not bridged
21:25 < jrmu> Out of curiosity, do you know why IPv4 forwarding seems to work ok?
21:25 < jrmu> That is what confuses me most, why IPv4 works ok, but IPv6 does not
21:25 < sibiria> vether is a type of bridge. i presume this is why it works
21:26 < jrmu> Hm...that vether0 interface has both a v4 and v6 address -- its v4 address forwards properly, but its v6 does not
21:26 < sibiria> another example would be a vlan pseudo interface manifesting from an actual interface. this also lets packets "jump" from one interface to the other without pf being involved
21:26 < sibiria> but afaik that's about it
21:27 < sibiria> also ipv6 = black magic, so who knows
21:27 < jrmu> ok thanks, I will read up on vlan(4)
21:28 < sibiria> i don't think a vlan applies as a solution for your problem
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