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00:03 < AShapiro> building a new obsd gateway today. had a bunch of old components lying around (sandy bridge cpu, some ddr3 ram)... bought a mini-itx board and case on eBay for ~$100 all in and will start the build tonight
00:04 < AShapiro> i'll worry about the rest of the components once it's booted. probably go for some 4x2.5gbe card. sounds like realtek and intel are both equally well supported in obsd at this point
00:04 < AShapiro> but i'm wondering if anyone has any strong preferences
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00:06 < sibiria> realtek 8125/8125B works very well in my experience
00:06 < sibiria> openbsd's driver for it performs well, too
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00:30 < tommyrot> intel over realtek should be nobrainer if you have the choice
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00:34 < sibiria> why should it be a nobrainer?
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00:35 < sibiria> intel screwed up as many times as realtek did 25 years ago in the early days of Fast Ethernet. but that was then and this is now
00:35 < tommyrot> because realtek sucks unless you need it to bootstrap a driver for something better
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00:35 < sibiria> nah
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01:08 < sysfu> I just rolled out opensmtpd and spamd as a relay host for all my email domains to inflict some pain on a particularly persistent spammer that's been tormenting me for over a year. They got my email from the ledger hack and data dump.
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01:09 < sysfu> I saw about two of their connections hit the tarpit, and I have not seen once for about six hours, lol. Too early to tell but I am hoping they have some detection to drop any addresses using spamd tarpitting. OpenBSD BRINGS THE PAIN to spammers, I Love it.
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02:56 < remiliascarlet> For whatever reason, OpenBSD sometimes loses connection to em0, and refuses to connect to it until I reboot the laptop.
02:58 < byteskeptical> remiliascarlet: does ipv4 vs ipv6 change anything?
02:59 < remiliascarlet> No, because I don't have IPv6.
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03:00 < byteskeptical> anything in xconsole or dmesg?
03:00 < byteskeptical> after dropping
03:02 < lts> dhcp changed and pf.conf doesn't have parentheses resulting in blocking the new connections and manual dhcp renewal might fix it instead of full reboot necessary?
03:04 < remiliascarlet> I'll check (byteskeptical) and fix (lts) when it happens again.
03:04 < remiliascarlet> But this didn't happen until yesterday.
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03:05 < remiliascarlet> Which is why it's so weird.
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10:14 < sibiria> remiliascarlet: i observed the same problem with one of the intel pro gbe cards that em(4) supports already years ago. never figured out if it's the driver or the specific chip
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10:15 < sibiria> mine was one of the cards in the 82xxx series
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10:19 < remiliascarlet> sibiria: "em0 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 "Intel I219-LM" rev 0x31:"
10:20 < remiliascarlet> Not quite the same though.
10:20 < sibiria> which may indicate that it's a driver problem
10:21 < sibiria> someone else recently mentioned that one of the newer Ixxx intel nics was misbehaving under openbsd, but i can't recall if it was the older stuff supported by em(4) or newer hardware for igc(4)
10:24 < sibiria> i21x vs i22x i mean
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10:56  * sonya is out of context, but rtl8152 via ure is also unstable, though can't assure if it's a driver or local hardware has issues.. it seems that win10 is o'k with it, but i'm using win for games mostly and not as regular as obsd..
10:58 < sibiria> i had some curious behaviors with USB-Eth in the past. turns out it was because the cheap chinese device did not have isolation transformer on the connector, so it would only work stable with <1 meter cable :p
11:00 < sonya> may be.. here's -gt 10m of cable to the router..
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12:39 < sysfu> I'm having issues getting spamd to to write to its own log file in /var/log/spamd
12:39 < sysfu> I added the following section to syslog.conf 
12:39 < sysfu> !spamd
12:39 < sysfu> daemon.info           /var/log/spamd
12:39 < sysfu> then restarted syslogd, then spamd.
12:40 < sysfu> spamd messages are still logging to /var/log/daemon however
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12:48 < sonya> sysfu: two lines: 1-st) !spamd  2-nd) *.*                            /var/log/spamd
12:50 < sysfu> sonya, thx I tried that already and same issue. I restarted syslogd then spamd. Still getting messages in /var/log/deamon. Going to post a link to my syslog.conf file, one moment.
12:51 < sonya> sysfu: and may be it'd be nice to end syslog.conf with a single comment line (#)
12:51 < sysfu> https://snips.sh/f/wGSP7FEiCO
12:51 < sonya> looking
12:52 < sonya> seems fine
12:53 < sysfu> that's why I'm baffled. This is on OpenBSD 7.5
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12:53 < sonya> sysfu: did you check permissions for /var/log/spamd ? 
12:54 < sonya> is spamd launched as _spamd or so?
12:54 < sysfu> launched as _spamd
12:55 < sysfu> test
12:56 < sysfu> var/log/spamd does not exist.
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12:56 < sysfu> I assumed it would be created by syslogd as man page mentions nothing about manually creating this file.
12:56 < sonya> well..
12:56 < sonya> no
12:57 < pardis> what do you mean, no?
12:57 < pardis> syslog.conf is the config file for syslogd, not spamd
12:57 < sonya> mean  /var/log/spamd  should be created manually and available for syslog for writing
12:58 < sysfu> sonya, that was it.
12:58 < sysfu> I created and restarted spamd, now it logging, thx.
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12:59 < sonya> sysfu: and i mistakenly remember as created a separate logfile and tweakrd with newsyslog for proper log rotation
12:59 < pardis> you don't need to restart spamd at all if you're just modifying syslogd config
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12:59 < sysfu> pardis, only reason I'm restarting spamd is to force it to write a new log entry.
13:00 < pardis> oh, I see
13:00 < sysfu> It's not busy enough otherwise.
13:00 < pardis> you also don't need to restart syslogd, just reload its config
13:00 < pardis> rcctl has a reload action
13:00 < sonya> sysfu: /etc/newsyslog.conf  for convenience
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13:06 < sysfu> pardis, just I was reloading the config, but started restarting just for good measure when it appeared that the reload was not working.
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13:08 < sysfu> sonya, I added spamd to newsyslog.conf, thanks for the suggestion.
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13:11 < sonya> sysfu: np, here's mine syslog.conf: https://clbin.com/tKo8W    separate logs for critical, errors and warnings..
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13:11 < sonya> still planning to add parser for emergency or smth else to pop out immediately
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13:13 < sonya> guess it'l be a crontab entry running once in a minute..
13:15 < remiliascarlet> I run OpenBSD on a PowerBook G4, but when I execute the `zzz` command, I see the following: `zzz: suspend: Inappropriate ioctl for device`. What does that mean?
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13:18 < sonya> remiliascarlet: i'm not sure, but apmd must be running to accept call from apm (zzz) and act.. dunno how G4 acts with apmd, sorry
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13:19 < sysfu> sonya, I like that idea of breaking out emergency messages.
13:19 < sonya> remiliascarlet: apmd -d could probably return a bit more
13:21 < sonya> sysfu: the case is that warnings contain warn and 'above', errors contain 'err' and above.. so emerg is a top level
13:27 < anexit> hey all what does FI CE mean?
13:27 < anexit> I see that on some websites and it spins around
13:27 < anexit> Like is my firefox broken
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13:30 < sonya> sysfu: i mean that's why i put *.crit; as emergency for critical,alerts and emergency logs..
13:31 < remiliascarlet> sonya: Sorry for the delay. They output is "apmd: cannot open device file `/dev/apmctl`: Device busy".
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13:33 < sonya> remiliascarlet: # fstat | grep apmctl   --- the only thing i can suggest
13:33 < sonya> remiliascarlet: sorry
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13:34 < sonya> remiliascarlet: may be restart.. dunno.. busy apmctl is a strange animal
13:34 < remiliascarlet> "root   apmd   25727   3 /      104621  crw-r--r-- rwe apmctl"
13:35 < remiliascarlet> Yeah, especially on a PowerPC CPU it seems.
13:35 < sonya> remiliascarlet: seems fine
13:35 < sonya> remiliascarlet: i mean grep return reasonable data
13:36 < remiliascarlet> Just replaced its 18 year old cool paste on its CPU and GPU, let's see how hot it'll get now.
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13:36 < sonya> good luck! i still regret to sell my G4 tower
13:37 < remiliascarlet> And just like modern Macbooks, even getting to the CPU at all is a pain in the fucking ass.
13:37 < sonya> T - Tradition!
13:37 < remiliascarlet> Yeah, some things never change.
13:38 < remiliascarlet> I've also been on the lookout for an SGI workstation, but these things are too hard to find (among those that are either sold in Japan, or ship to Japan).
13:39 < remiliascarlet> There are plenty of those on Ebay, but they all only  ship within North America.
13:39 < sonya> and it's a bit dumb/strange.. i trashed 10 macbooks or so due to overheat, took out hd and inserted usb external storage as a cure..   and yeah! i remember their ads: "Hey, we did a workstation! Just like others.. SGI"
13:40 < remiliascarlet> Also, having had it turned on for 10 minutes, so far it seems like the heat problem got resolved.
13:40 < sonya> cool
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13:40 < remiliascarlet> Literally cool.
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16:29 < getz> remiliascarlet, located in europe? I have 2 indy's and an O2 if youre interested. Saved them from a dumpster
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18:12 < betabug> "either sold in Japan, or ship to Japan"
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18:22 < getz> Cant read
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19:18 < runelind> I'm seeing with https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html you can load balance outgoing internet connections, but does it have some kind of tracking for if internet connections go down? 
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19:30 < martian67> runelind: no
19:31 < martian67> thats what ifstated is for
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19:31 < martian67> you can define whatever arbitrary conditions and tests
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20:00 < runelind> martian67 can it manipulate pf ?
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20:00 < martian67> yes, read the manual
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