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06:02 < remiliascarlet> I can confirm once again that errata 003 (the libcrypto patch) is fundamentally broken. I re-applied the patch again and rebooted, and I noticed the following problems: 1) boot up time got ridiculously slow. 2) logging into my user account was ridiculously slow, and once it finally loaded, Xorg got stuck in an infinite loop. 3) tmux stopped working altogether. 4) I was unable to connect to WiFi at
06:02 < remiliascarlet> all. All I did to fix all these issues was to simply execute `syspatch -r` and reboot, and all the problems were gone again.
06:05 < remiliascarlet> There were probably more problems, but I didn't check.
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06:08 < remiliascarlet> And I know, it's hard to believe that simply adding a bound check would cause all these side effects, and yet it did.
06:08 < remiliascarlet> The computer in question is a ThinkPad P50 by the way.
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15:21 < echelon> remiliascarlet: tried the mailing list?
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15:30 < sibiria> remiliascarlet: i wonder if it's not really something else
15:30 < sibiria> the first thing that stands out is that tmux does not link against libcrypto
15:32 < sibiria> nor does Xorg
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15:35 < sibiria> you could just have a quick look with top to see *what* might be spin-locking when you start up
15:35 < sibiria> i'm on 7.5 and have the same patch installed, and everything runs OK here. no X, though
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15:49 < remiliascarlet> Yes, which is why I said it's weird it happens because of that patch.
15:49 < remiliascarlet> I didn't try the mailing list yet.
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15:59 < vortexx> anyone on a PPPoE connection got iftop working on it? I'm getting this error on here: Unsupported datalink type: 51
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19:02 < MiniontobyPI> Hey guys
19:02 < MiniontobyPI> I got my gre tunnel 90% done
19:02 < MiniontobyPI> I am receiving from the tunnel and my servers are making a response
19:02 < MiniontobyPI> However, it goes out the wrong way
19:03 < MiniontobyPI> The reply doesn't go over gre0, but over vio0
19:04 < MiniontobyPI> and if I set up pf to make it use `reply-to gre0`, then I get `$remote > $ip: icmp6: $pingingip unreachable route`
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19:04 < MiniontobyPI> does anyone know how to route gre traffic correctly back to the remote?
19:06 < PyR3X> anyone else getting a 451 tempfail trying to email ports mailing list?
19:06 < sibiria> everyone does. you're being graylisted for 30-40 minutes
19:07 < PyR3X> since when?
19:07 < zelest> since forever
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19:07 < PyR3X> I've been emailing this list for the last year and this is the first time it's happened
19:09 < zelest> You get whitelisted.. maybe the whitelist has expired or been purged
19:10 < PyR3X> ahhh
19:10 < PyR3X> been a while since the last port update
19:10 < zelest> :)
19:14 < MiniontobyPI> Oke different question: I know it is possible to do ipv6-over-ipv4 tunnels, but would it be possible to do ipv4-over-ipv6?
19:14 < MiniontobyPI> And most importantly using OpenIKED?
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19:24 < hackfoo> MiniontobyPI: the network inside the tunnel is agnostic to the network that the tunnel is traversing. I have an ikev2 remote access setup, and any connecting client gets both an ipv4 and ipv6 address.
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19:29 < deltahotel> hi, please how to start atc game?
19:30 < deltahotel> $ atc     return: ksh: atc: not found
19:31 < deltahotel> same for all othet games
19:31 < deltahotel> the game option is activated during installation
19:32 < IcePic> deltahotel: use full path?
19:32 < deltahotel> no
19:32 < IcePic> /usr/games/ ..
19:32 < deltahotel> what is full path?
19:33 < IcePic> /usr/games/atc for that game
19:33 < deltahotel> will try
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19:34 < deltahotel> works without xorg in terminal?
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19:35 < deltahotel> actually xenodm disabled
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19:38 < sibiria> you just don't have /usr/games in your default path. set it, or provide it when running the game as IcePic suggests
19:38 < sibiria> it has nothing to do with X
19:39 < polarian> I have two axen interfaces, I plugged in a new one and it is given axen1 (cause axen0 already existed), on reboot... axen1 --> axen0 and axen0 --> axen1
19:39 < polarian> how do I know which interface will be named first on boot 
19:39 < polarian> how does OpenBSD decide the naming of the interface
19:40 < sibiria> it's USB so god knows. but you can refer to their MAC address as a makeshift solution
19:40 < polarian> but the hostname.if files get mixed up then :/
19:41 < polarian> and unfortunately because of me using small SBCs for routing... USB is the only port I can shove my packets through :P
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19:50 < vortexx> polarian: that issue came up last year iirc on the misc@ ml. I can't remember if there was a definitive solution, I think a patch was made to do the same for usb as is done for drives...
19:50 < vortexx> let me try and find it
19:51 < polarian> ah I should've searched the ML too... but I thought it would be a easy one line "hey its done this way" but if ML is being pulled out the hat, obviously its a more complex problem :P
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19:52 < sibiria> at worst... some horrible solution using hotplugd to rewrite macros
19:52 < sibiria> ugly but doable
19:52 < sibiria> but i have a feeling there's a better way
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19:53 < polarian> oh wait I just realised vortexx is in both #freebsd and #openbsd :P
19:54 < polarian> I guess BSD users float between the BSD's?
19:54 < sibiria> down here we all float
19:55 < thrig> only openbsd here
19:55 < sibiria> i tried freebsd once. was ok, just not openbsd
19:55 < zelest> same, openbsd only here :)
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19:56 < vortexx> polarian: I'm in channels I use the OS for, yes
19:56  * zelest finds vortexx in #windowsvista
19:56 < vortexx> I use bhyve for my virtualization home lab server so I need FreeBSD, but half my VMs are OpenBSD
19:57 < vortexx> zelest: you wish :P
19:57 < zelest> :D
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19:57 < zelest> speaking of virtualization, does FreeBSD run in vmd?
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19:57 < vortexx> and yes I have had a laptop with Vista on it when I bought it, but put gentoo on it nearly immediately
19:57 < vortexx> it doesn't iirc
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19:57 < zelest> :/
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20:01 < polarian> vortexx: ugh gentoo users 
20:01 < polarian> Arch Linux > Gentoo :)
20:01 < polarian> and *BSD > Linux :)
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20:02 < vortexx> Arch didn't exist back then iirc
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20:02 < vortexx> or I wasn't aware of it
20:03 < zelest> gentoo was cool around 1.2, when you had to compile from stage1
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20:03 < vortexx> oh it was around... this was October 2007
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20:03 < vortexx> I used to compile from stage 1 as a matter of course
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20:04 < joe9> I am trying to connect to the serial port with cu. I have a bunch of /dev/ttyp* devices. How do I figure out which ttypX device corresponds to my serial port? 
20:04 < zelest> back when elinks with vesa support shipped as setuid root :D
20:04 < vortexx> I stopped using gentoo when I got an atom vaio laptop, took too damn long to update
20:05 < zelest> vortexx, I gave up when Linux had like 5 local root holes in a single week (ran a shell server)
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20:05 < zelest> around 2.4.18 ish.. iirc
20:06 < vortexx> zelest: yeah that'd have been very painful
20:06 < joe9> gentoo for disappearing weekends..
20:06 < joe9> realized that gentoo linux is an untamable beast. The only sane linux is CRUX.
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20:07 < joe9> s/sane/saner/
20:07 < vortexx> I stopped using Redhat 6.2 (pre RHEL) as a router OS after I got remote hacked, went to OpenBSD for those duties early in 2003 iirc
20:07 < joe9> there is no sane linux.
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20:10 < vortexx> polarian: found it, was on tech@ not misc@ : https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=166904583629750&w=2
20:11 < polarian> thank you :)
20:11 < polarian> I will take a look now 
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20:16 < vortexx> you're welcome
20:17 < vortexx> polarian: from man hostname.if: The hostname.* files contain information regarding the configuration of each network interface.  Interfaces are referenced by name and unit, such as "hostname.fxp0".  For some machines, autoconfiguration makes this system inconsistent, so interfaces can alternatively be referenced by their link layer address (lladdr), such as "hostname.00:00:5e:00:53:af".  Priority is
20:17 < vortexx>  given to configuration by interface lladdr over name/unit.  A configuration file is not needed for lo0.
20:17 < polarian> ah 
20:17 < polarian> lladdr being mac address :)
20:17 < vortexx> so you should create hostname.lladdr for each usb interface (yes MAC address)
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20:18 < polarian> (just had to confirm)
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20:18 < polarian> vortexx: that is harder though :/
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20:18 < polarian> its easy to differentiate axen0 and axen1 
20:18 < polarian> mac addresses arent user friendly
20:18 < polarian> is there no way to lock axen0 against the lladdr 
20:19 < polarian> lladdr option within the hostname.if file would be useful for this no?
20:19 < polarian> (theoretical lladdr)
20:19 < vortexx> I think doing this does lock the axen0 to the right IP config and you can use axen0 in pf
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20:20 < polarian> is there a lladdr option in hostname.if?
20:20  * polarian checks manpage
20:21 < polarian> nope
20:21 < polarian> vortexx: say if I did use the lladdr in the hostname.if it would cause issue with pf...
20:22 < vortexx> I'm not 100% sure
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20:22 < polarian> hm maybe a question for the ml 
20:24 < vortexx> give the hostname.lladdr a test at boot to see if the axen devices do stick to the right mac addresses and see if PF behaves properly with axen* defined as $ext_if and $int_if
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20:35 < polarian> I will take a look later 
20:35 < polarian> working on a server reinstall right now 
20:35 < polarian> thanks for the help
20:35 < vortexx> you're welcome
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23:01 < vortexx> polarian: do let us know when you've tested hostname.lladdr please
23:01 < vortexx> good luck on the server reinstall
23:04 < polarian> thanks 
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