--- Log opened Sun Jun 09 00:00:03 2024 00:02 -!- mikeybsd [~solo@user/mikeybsd] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:04 -!- SirJitsu [~SirJitsu@162-231-111-175.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 00:07 -!- emmanuelux [~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08 -!- emmanuelux [~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 00:13 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 00:14 -!- guru__ [~guru@2001:9e8:e823:5900:20c:29ff:fe5c:9d22] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:15 -!- guru__ [~guru@2001:9e8:e823:5900:20c:29ff:fe5c:9d22] has joined #openbsd 00:16 -!- ipetruk [~user@user/ipetruk] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 00:21 -!- guru__ [~guru@2001:9e8:e823:5900:20c:29ff:fe5c:9d22] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:23 -!- uncleyear [~ian@45.80.46.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:27 -!- mikeybsd [~solo@user/mikeybsd] has joined #openbsd 00:28 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 00:32 < vortexx> btw I found the Undeadly article that let me know there was an issue with USB ethernet device enumaration: https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20221125104917 00:33 < vortexx> rss feeds ftw 00:47 -!- greaser|q [greaser@antihype.space] has quit [Changing host] 00:47 -!- greaser|q [greaser@user/greasemonkey] has joined #openbsd 00:47 -!- greaser|q is now known as GreaseMonkey 00:56 < joe9> any cu users of the serial console? Is there a way to find out which ttyp the serial console is connected to? 00:56 < joe9> There are a bunch of /dev/ttyp* devices on my system. 00:59 < thrig> login to the serial console then run the tty program? 01:00 < joe9> thrig: what do you mean? I have a different OS on a different machine. 01:01 < joe9> I have OpenBSD on my desktop and I am trying to read the serial console input/output of the machine from my desktop. 01:01 < joe9> I have both machines connected with a serial cable. 01:02 < joe9> cu -l /dev/serialdevice -s baud-rate-speed is the command 01:02 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02 < vortexx> joe9: iirc it's probably /dev/cua00 or something similar 01:02 < joe9> oh, ok. Thanks. I thought it was ttyp* device. 01:02 < thrig> run fstat and see what cu has open? 01:02 < vortexx> I'm not 100% sure but it should be 01:02 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 01:03 < vortexx> thrig: still have to know which local serial device to point at 01:03 < joe9> thrig: you mean just run doas cu -s 115200 and let it figure out the device? 01:03 < joe9> without the -l parameter 01:04 < vortexx> -l line Specify the line to use. Any of the forms cua00, /dev/cua00, or usb0.1.00002.3 are permitted. 01:04 < vortexx> The default is /dev/cua00. See cua(4) for information on terminal devices. Users in group "dialer" are permitted to use cua(4) devices by default. 01:04 < vortexx> See sysctl(2) hw.ucomnames for available USB serial lines. 01:05 < vortexx> from man cu 01:05 < joe9> I do not have a serial on usb device. It is directly a serial connection. 01:05 < joe9> uart 01:05 < vortexx> still cua00 then 01:05 < joe9> ok, thanks. 01:06 < vortexx> I wouldn't be surprised that cua comes from "call unix address" 01:08 -!- slim [~slim@user/meow/slim] has joined #openbsd 01:09 < vortexx> joe9: tty* something is a linux thing if using cu, BSDs seem to use cua 01:09 < vortexx> (my FreeBSD box has /dev/cua* although that uses /dev/nmdm* for bhyve consoles) 01:09 < joe9> oh, ok. I did not know that. 01:10 < vortexx> yeah I figured you might be coming from linux 01:10 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11 < joe9> that works, thanks. Just cu -s 115200 and it uses the /dev/cua00 by default and it works. 01:11 < vortexx> excellent 01:13 < vortexx> serial console ftw 01:16 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 01:23 -!- mikeybsd [~solo@user/mikeybsd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25 < vortexx> heads up, time to run pkg_add -u on php and rcctl restart phpXY_fpm 01:26 -!- mikeybsd [~solo@user/mikeybsd] has joined #openbsd 01:28 < vortexx> https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/06/07/1 01:36 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 01:40 -!- Mestapheles [~chatzilla@181-163-148-210.baf.movistar.cl] has joined #openbsd 02:06 -!- adig [~default@109.166.138.189] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 02:13 -!- adig [~default@109.166.138.189] has joined #openbsd 02:13 -!- deltahotel [~fr5dh@user/deltahotel] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:22 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:25 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 02:33 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:34 -!- Guru_DE [~guru@2001:9e8:e82a:2e00:20c:29ff:fe5c:9d22] has joined #openbsd 02:38 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has joined #openbsd 02:43 -!- penne_ [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has joined #openbsd 02:44 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:45 -!- adig [~default@109.166.138.189] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 02:46 -!- donofrio_ [~donofrio@c-68-40-123-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48 -!- jakef [~user@user/jakef] has joined #openbsd 02:53 -!- adig [~default@109.166.138.189] has joined #openbsd 02:56 -!- ipetruk [~user@user/ipetruk] has joined #openbsd 03:00 -!- parai [~parai@2a02:2f04:119:b100::a] has quit [Quit: connection reset by purr] 03:00 -!- parai [~parai@2a02:2f04:119:b100::a] has joined #openbsd 03:06 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 03:13 -!- m3a [~m3a@104.158.106.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15 -!- mikeybsd [~solo@user/mikeybsd] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:18 -!- mikeybsd [~solo@user/mikeybsd] has joined #openbsd 03:18 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:19 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 03:24 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has joined #openbsd 03:25 -!- penne_ [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:31 -!- jambove [~jambove@BC063FA0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:33 -!- jambove [~jambove@BC063F4E.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 03:39 -!- m3a [~m3a@104.158.106.182] has joined #openbsd 03:48 -!- rustyy [~rusty@74.3.163.187] has joined #openbsd 03:52 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:53 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 03:55 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:56 -!- mxz_ [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:57 -!- mxz__ [~mxz@user/mxz] has joined #openbsd 03:57 -!- mxz [~mxz@user/mxz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:57 -!- mxz__ is now known as mxz 03:59 -!- nmdv [~nmdv@user/nmdv] has joined #openbsd 04:01 -!- mikeybsd [~solo@user/mikeybsd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:10 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:13 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has joined #openbsd 04:17 -!- xelxebar [~xelxebar@wilsonb.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - 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OpenBSD as the main, NetBSD is secondary. 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solving this "mystery"? 13:49 < quinq> deltahotel, did you remove some words from your sentence for making a statement? 13:50 < penne> maybe rogue went rogue so they /usr/games from PATH :b 13:50 < penne> hell i contracted the word dropping disease too 13:51 < quinq> The dropping word dropping disisease 13:51 -!- pabs3 [~pabs3@user/pabs3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52 -!- pabs3 [~pabs3@user/pabs3] has joined #openbsd 13:55 < sibiria> they accidentally the entire /usr/games 13:55 < sibiria> and suddenly $PATH 13:56 < sibiria> *** MUFFLED SCREAMS *** 13:57 < thrig> /usr/games not actually having rogue 14:00 < sibiria> crime against humanity 14:00 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:06 -!- deltahotel [~fr5dh@user/deltahotel] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:13 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 14:20 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I'm aware that the C tooling will differ, but was hoping someone could point me to some alternatives to commonly used debugging tools on the linux side. TIA. 16:49 < thrig> well, there's printf 16:49 < taeltydes> thrig: score! we're off to the races. 16:51 -!- b50d [~b50d@2a02:3100:390b:c500:b03:da01:c96b:4367] has joined #openbsd 16:51 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has joined #openbsd 16:53 < taeltydes> after heaving about pledge & unveil I presumed there would probably be more tooling to be discovering hiding in some corner of the interwebs. 16:56 < thrig> I mostly use printf, except in the case where there is overly complicated 3rd party code, but that hasn't come up in years 16:58 < sibiria> taeltydes: not really. you can trace your application. stuff like pledge and veil also spit out some useful diagnostic if asked, to understand why either may have made your application croak 16:59 < thrig> usually debugging unveil requires ktrace 16:59 < thrig> pledge sometimes too, if wacky syscalls are involved. damn you, mupdf 16:59 < sibiria> unveil* 16:59 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has joined #openbsd 17:00 < taeltydes> thanks. printf's do the trick for the majority. I was thinking more along the lines of leak detection. ktrace has been noted. 17:01 < thrig> there are various malloc options you can set 17:01 < sibiria> there's valgrind 17:03 -!- hitest [~hitest@user/hitest] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:05 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05 < taeltydes> thrig: the malloc implementation seems interesting for sure. Part of the reason I figured obsd would be a good platform for picking up knowledge by contrast. 17:05 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 17:06 < taeltydes> siberia: valgrind's what i've used in the past but the port description mention's it's a WIP. 17:06 < sibiria> it is 17:08 < taeltydes> Is there something on the openbsd that offers similar functionality? I'm not bothered about feature parity, just interested to how people go about things. 17:10 < sibiria> the malloc options combined with ktrace/kdump are pretty powerful, even if perhaps not as convenient as valgrind 17:11 < sibiria> https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-7.5/malloc 17:11 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 17:12 < taeltydes> appreciated. I'll go that route. 17:24 -!- lbia [~lbia@user/lbia] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:26 < taeltydes> :q 17:27 < taeltydes> whoops. off to a blazing start. 17:28 < sibiria> suggest sane editor instead of vi/vim 17:30 -!- deltahote1 [~fr5dh@80.12.250.44] has quit [Quit: deltahote1] 17:31 < fro> suggest some chat other than irc 17:33 < sibiria> fro: have you considered checking what's up on Discord? 17:33 < lts> sibiria: geany if looking for GUI 17:33 < sibiria> lts: oh i'm good. suggestion was directed to someone else :) 17:34 < byteskeptical> taeltydes: https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150121093259 17:34 < sibiria> i'd be gooder if openbsd managed to "unbreak" Go so that i could use Micro again 17:35 < fro> i wasn't asking 17:35 < sibiria> so just a healthy moment of sitting on IRC and suggesting others to not use IRC 17:36 -!- lbia [~lbia@user/lbia] has joined #openbsd 17:36 < lts> Go fixed it already, just not released yet https://github.com/golang/go/issues/63900 17:37 < fro> yes along the same lines as suggesting someone use another editor for accidentally typing something in the wrong place 17:37 < sibiria> lts: yeah i was hoping for 7.5, but... 17:37 < byteskeptical> taeltydes: you can also pkg_add llvm and run 'scan-build' 17:37 < fro> go figure 17:37 < lts> Yeah I have a gitea system also not working because of this 17:38 < taeltydes> byteskeptic: ty for th link. having a read through now. would prefer to keep away from llvm though. 17:39 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39 < byteskeptical> fro: discord wouldn't have saved you from your editor 17:39 < byteskeptical> jk 17:39 < taeltydes> fro: i don't use a mouse, but thy holiness may feel free. 17:40 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 17:40 < byteskeptical> taeltydes: what are you compiling on? 17:40 < fro> i don't use a mouse either 17:40 < taeltydes> byteskeptic: gcc for now. 17:40 < fro> trackpad works fine 17:41 < fro> why do you hate llvm 17:41 < fro> because it's slow? 17:42 < taeltydes> fro: I'm allergic to pointing devices, hence the aversion to rio, or I may be trying plan9 :D 17:43 < taeltydes> fro: yes. not overly concerned about efficient binaries for the time being. can certainly see the value for releases but quick compile is my priority atm. 17:45 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45 < dqk> when you're using rio you start to wonder why everything else is so painful to use with a pointing device 17:45 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has joined #openbsd 17:46 < taeltydes> I'm sure there are lighter weight alternatives to gcc worth considering, but I'm a java/spring intern, so anything's an improvement. 17:47 < byteskeptical> taeltydes: I just thought you moved to openbsd for the dev environment which has been clang for a minute now on i386 and amd64 17:48 < thrig> different compilers will give different warnings 17:49 < pardis> there are more lightweight alternatives, but none worth considering 17:49 < pardis> there is a reason pcc was removed from base 17:49 < taeltydes> dqk: I saw there has been a few rio patching for tiling. I'm sure the pointing in rio is interesting. It's a deterent for me though. I would really like to learn some 9p though. I would like to make a distibuted filesystem of git repo's with issues etc living inside the repo. 17:50 < byteskeptical> I mean it was mostly for licensing to be fair there's nothing wrong with gcc other than you might not have the support you expect in base 17:50 < pardis> pcc ≠ gcc 17:52 < taeltydes> i hear the clang errors are nicer. I've only used it with cpp though. 17:53 < byteskeptical> i was referring to the when gcc4 was being used, honestly wasn't aware of pcc in base 17:53 < pardis> ah, I thought you were responding to my comment 17:54 < byteskeptical> I think I was but read it as typo for gcc instead of putting together you actually meant pcc 17:54 < taeltydes> any thoughts on pcc? experience with hare has been nice so may consider cproc also. 17:55 -!- AlaskanEmily [~AlaskanEm@user/alaskanemily] has joined #openbsd 17:58 -!- frodo_ [~sethkush@2602:ffb6:4:bc3a:f816:3eff:fe94:75bc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58 -!- frodo [~sethkush@2602:ffb6:4:bc3a:f816:3eff:fe94:75bc] has joined #openbsd 17:58 -!- Xenguy_ [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 17:59 < taeltydes> nvm. spent far too much time packaging recently & not enough time programming. 18:06 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has joined #openbsd 18:08 -!- r5c4571lh01987 [~rscastilh@179.221.142.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12 -!- ipetruk [~user@user/ipetruk] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 18:14 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 -!- djhankb [~djhankb@208.113.164.68] has joined #openbsd 18:16 -!- penne [~penne@gateway/tor-sasl/penne] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18 -!- r5c4571lh01987 [rscastilho@179.221.142.8] has joined #openbsd 18:31 -!- Xenguy_ [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Quit: "To play for a draw [...] is to some degree a crime against chess." -- Mikhail Tal] 18:40 < vortexx> pardis: I do remember some excitement that pcc was being looked at as an alternative to gcc for compiling base but I wasn't aware it got imported. 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