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01:20 < p3s> pardis: Linus Torvalds has this rubber stamp that he dips in hot wax
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01:57 < oldlaptop> passing strange that he should apply such a thing to some random userland tool
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02:12 < mystic> do u know if I can have a log of unbound that show me all the domain name query ?
02:12 < mystic> (while I'm reading the man)
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02:18 < mystic> ok found "verbosity: 2" >> /var/unbound/etc/unbound.conf
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13:39 < cpk> ha
13:41 < zelest> the motorcycle gang?
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14:33 < eea> s/gang/club/
14:34 < consus> s/motorcycle/gay/
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15:58 < ssm_> s/club/sex/
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16:13 < Posterdati> Is there anyone who wants to work, as a volunteer, on OpenBSD-based servers? Please contact me!
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16:14 < ssm_> I'll work as a volunteer for $15 an hour
16:15 < Posterdati> nice
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16:15 < Posterdati> but you're an expert :)
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16:16 < thrig> is there Windows involved? if so $30 an hour and access to a wet bar
16:16 < Posterdati> no, only OpenBSD and no knowledge
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16:29 < RobbieAB> No knowledge? I can probably manage that.
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16:30 < lts> I assume purchasing gift cards is a prerequisite
16:31 < RobbieAB> I would need knowledge of purchasing to do that...
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16:32 < thrig> is it audio related? because I don't know jack
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16:48 < anexit> Is nmap broken on openbsd?
16:53 < mischief> works here
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16:57 < thrig> more useful might be an error message, input, expected output
16:57 < anexit> It tells me that I have port 8008 open
16:58 < anexit> but netstat -a shows nothign
16:58 < anexit> whats weird is I can telnet it and it connects...
17:00 < anexit> but then nmap again and it's gone
17:00 < anexit> and can no longer telnet
17:01 < RobbieAB> Sounds like nmap was briefly right. 
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17:03 < anexit> yeah no idea
17:03 < anexit> friggin weird
17:06 < anexit> must be my provider
17:06 < lts> Pwned ISP router at your home
17:07 < anexit> Nah I don't think so
17:07 < anexit> this is at our colo and it's on everyone of their netblocks
17:07 < anexit> must be some tool to manage.
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17:08 < anexit> nmap myself or over wg.. it's gone.
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17:22 < sonya> anexit: $ man fstat  .. could help to look at all open ports, files , etc..
17:24 < sibiria> anexit: netstat -an | grep 8080
17:25 < sibiria> -n, just to get eventual service definition name out of the way
17:27 < sonya> :)) .. or: $ echo 'USER     CMD          PID    FD MOUNT    INUM   MODE    R/W    SZ|DV' ; for a in `netstat -Ana | grep "LISTEN" | awk -F\   '{ print $1 }' ` ; do fstat | grep $a ; done | sort
17:28 < sonya> or # as -A for root only..
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17:29 < xse> iirc fstat can't show wireguard listening but netstat does for some reason
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17:31 < lts> grep "$a" :-) 
17:34 < sibiria> xse: it's because wireguard lives in the kernel under openbsd, and by default fstat will only see standard processes
17:34 < sibiria> netstat doesn't care about processes. it sees everything the network stack sees
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17:44 < xse> right, i recall spending time looking for which program was listening that did not show up. granted this is maybe more of an edge case i don't think i have another kernel thing listening like that
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17:52 < anexit> yeah
17:52 < anexit> it's on the edge
17:52 < anexit> for sure
17:53 < anexit> their router has the same port open
17:53 < anexit> :D
17:53 < anexit> so it must be just somehow snagging that 
17:53 < anexit> or a VM ip
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20:29 < echelon> what does this mean.. fw_update: add none; update intel; keep inteldrm
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20:32 < sibiria> that "intel" firmware was updated, "inteldrm" remained the same without any changed
20:32 < sibiria> changes
20:32 < sibiria> "debugform" output. can be a bit confusing
20:34 < jrmu> for running as an access point, is the software hostapd? I checked and hostapd(8) seems to be used for communicating between access points, rather than to set up an access point
20:35 < jrmu> or can I run as an access point using just ifconfig?
20:35 < vortexx> Posterdati: what exactly needs doing?
20:36 < sonya> only if driver (such as 'ral') supports AP mode
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20:37 < jrmu> hm seems this can be handled with ifconfig. I'm using athn for driver
20:37 < vortexx> jrmu: OpenBSD isn't recommended at all for AP mode. Speeds don't go over .11g performance
20:38 < vortexx> it's best to use a separate device as AP, such as a wifi router or some branded dedicated AP thing
20:38 < vortexx> much packet dropping and underwhelming performance lies down the path of OpenBSD as an AP
20:39 < jrmu> that's ok for me, 802.11g is fine, I just need it for a small local network. my card seems to use the AR9271 chip
20:39 < sibiria> athn is a no-go for hostap mode. barely works as client
20:39 < sibiria> the driver is crap
20:39 < jrmu> hm, the man page says it is possible, but you've tried it and it doesn't work?
20:40 < sibiria> but otherwise you are correct - nothing extra is needed, the interfaces that support hostap mode can function like that directly by just configuring them as hostap
20:40 < sibiria> the man pages say a lot about wifi capabilities, but in reality only 2 or 3 drivers work well
20:40 < sibiria> everything athn is broken
20:40 < sibiria> there might be one chip in there that works as client
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20:41 < sibiria> i've tested 3-4 of them as hostap and they're all unstable. same for 11n in client mode
20:42 < jrmu> hm that would cost money, as I don't have any devices atm. Let me give this a test, if it fails I'll try something else
20:42 < sibiria> the only stable driver for hostap that i've found is ral(4), and it's rock solid except only supporting 802.11g speeds
20:43 < sibiria> so you're stuck at just over 20 mbit/s speeds
20:43 < jrmu> I might have some wifi card for that
20:43 < jrmu> can you recommend a usb wifi card for ral(4)?
20:44 < sibiria> ral if pci only. ural are the usb-based ones. i have no experience with those
20:44 < tommyrot> i ran athn in ap mode for a couple of years, speeds were abysmal but it worked until it would hang at some point and the device needed a reset
20:44 < tommyrot> maybe that's good enough for you
20:44 < jrmu> oh hm that's sad to hear
20:44 < jrmu> tommyrot: yeah that's probably good enough for me
20:45 < jrmu> just need it for ad hoc sharing of a few files every now and then
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20:45 < sibiria> the last athn device i tried was AR9271. the link would zone in and out repeatedly, and during those seconds it was up and running the packet loss and latencies were sky-high
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20:46 < sibiria> this was a while ago, though. probably 6.9 or 7.0
20:46 < jrmu> yeah I have the same device
20:46 < jrmu> will test and report
20:47 < sibiria> right off the bad i'd just recommend you to get a wall-wart type of "wifi repeater" and run openwrt on it, configuring it to act only as a wifi-to-ethernet bridge
20:47 < sibiria> bat*
20:48 < jrmu> do you have a URL for that?
20:48 < sibiria> openwrt? openwrt.org
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20:49 < sibiria> i ran ral(4) for 10 years, from 2007 to 2017, but ultimately got tired of 20-ish mbit/s wifi speeds. i'm happy with my current solution of separate wifi AP with openwrt, bridging into my LAN
20:49 < jrmu> oh I meant the hardware
20:50 < jrmu> ok, no worries, I'll keep searching and report back
20:50 < RobbieAB> And this is why I ended up with a wireless mesh network...
20:50 < sibiria> jrmu: my device is Netgear EX3700
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20:51 < sibiria> sold as "wifi repeater/extender" or so. with openwrt it becomes whatever you want it to be
20:52 < tommyrot> i used the community favorite apu2 with the wifi card they also sold
20:52 < tommyrot> ended up putting debian on it and since then i can use it to its full potential
20:53 < tommyrot> it's nice to have dreams but at some point you just want to get the job done
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20:56 < pixificial> Hello, I am trying to avoid GnuPG since it is huge, so I made the following way of asymmetrically (hybrid) encrypting a file: b64encode < /dev/urandom pass | sed 2q | tail -n 1 | openssl pkeyutl -encrypt -pubin -inkey rsapub.pem | tee password.encrsa | openssl pkeyutl -decrypt -inkey rsasec.pem | openssl aes256 -pass stdin -in file.txt -out file.txt.encaes
20:57 < CosmicDJ> pixificial: why? just use age or rage if gnupg is too huge
20:57 < jcs> or reop - https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/reop
20:57 < sibiria> i'd just... openssl enc -in x -out y.aes256 -e -aes-256-ofb -pbkdf2 -iter 12345 ... or something
20:57 < pixificial> My threat model is of a serious developer / maintainer / administrator. I should have good security against normal attackers but it is okay if this has a hole which is breakable in a few months by government agencies.
20:57 < pixificial> CosmicDJ: I want something implemented in C, not Go, even though I like Go as a language.
20:58 < pixificial> jcs: Checking it out real quick.
21:00 < pixificial> sibiria: Correct, I forgot to mention that I wanted it to use public key cryptography.
21:00 < pixificial> Otherwise, I'd also encrypt a local file for myself using AES alone.
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21:03 < pixificial> So what this does is that it gets a random b64 of 80 chars, uses that to encrypt a file with AES, then saves the encrypted AES file, and then encrypts the 80 char password using the public key of the receipient. The receipient would decrypt the 80 char password with his private key, which in turn would be used to symmetrically decrypt the file.
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21:05 < sonya> pixificial: why not just encrypt with public key? owner of private key is capable to decrypt without password or any other in-between..
21:06 < sonya> if keys are required and must be used..
21:06 < martian67> use a tool designed for this, rather than spinning your own crypto shit
21:06 < sonya> +++^
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21:10 < thrig> err, but gpg was designed for this, but we ended up with signify for some reason
21:11 < pixificial> sonya: You can't encrypt a file of a normal size with a normal key.
21:11 < pixificial> Anything longer than a few lines is too big to encrypt in most cases.
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21:12 < pixificial> martian67: I am merely using the tools in the local system, spinning my own "crypto shit" would be reimplementing the design of the algorithms.
21:13 < martian67> you are reimplementing part of it
21:13 < thrig> like a 2048 bit RSA key might let you shove 214 bytes into it
21:13 < pixificial> thrig: The problem with gpg is that it is designed for this and much, much more. Signify does a perfect job at signing a single file, agreed.
21:14 < pixificial> thrig: Should be, yeah. Too small for distributing a tarball though :).
21:14 < thrig> split(1) exists...
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21:16 < pixificial> thrig: Oh God. You are telling me to split things to hundreds of files small enough to be asymmetrically encrypted, asymmetrically encrypt each and every of them, and bring them together and the other way to decrypt. That's genius and horrible.
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21:16 < thrig> duh? Microsoft Office used to come on 35 or so "floppies" for example
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21:17 < tux0r> unencrypted though
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21:40 < phy1729> Using split sounds a lot like ECB mode
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23:49 < FenderQ> this channel has 666 users
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23:51 < FenderQ> spamd(8) beardedclams@humpingforjesus.com
23:51 < FenderQ> :D
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