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08:07 < fturco> hello. are apmd/sensorsd needed for refreshing hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0 values?
08:07 < fturco> on my desktop computer it is stuck to 36.00 degC
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08:23 < renaud> no, you don't need anything to refresh the value. But that value might be a wrong one, there are some "bogus" sensors on a lot of motherboards. You see them, but the value means nothing.
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08:24 < renaud> hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0=8.30
08:24 < renaud> no way this is oging to be correct
08:24 < fturco> it's just a pretty standard intel core 2 duo cpu
08:25 < renaud> I guess they designed the motherbord with X sensors, but they didn't implement them all, so , some might have bogus values
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08:38 < rnkn> if I wanna serve git repos over https do I need to copy git-http-backend and all its linked libraries into httpd's chroot?
08:38 < rnkn> or is there an easier way?
08:38 < rnkn> or should I just use git://
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09:08 < op2> rnkn: the easiest is putting the bare repo somewhere under /var/www so httpd can serve it as-is
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09:08 < op2> it's called the "http dumb protocol", git just needs to be able to download the files over http
09:09 < op2> you'll need a cronjob or something to run `git update-server-info' in the repo (and I would also recommend to `git repack -q -a d' sometimes)
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09:11 < op2> the still easy way is to serve via anonssh using gotd(8) (pkg_add gotd, then read gotsh(1) to see how to setup sshd for anonssh)
09:12 < op2> if you really want http:// then you can also run git-http-backend outside of the chroot (see slowcgi -p flag)
09:15 < op2> oh, stupid typo, i meant `git repack -q -a -d'
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09:26 < rnkn> op2: thank you!
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09:30 < op2> you're welcome :)
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14:11 < dfdx> Hi #openbsd. In my daily OpenBSD security mail, I occasionally get this warning: "services that should be running but aren't: relayd". Does anyone know how I can debug this? I don't actually believe I should have relayd running.
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14:12 < IcePic> dfdx: if you do not want relayd running, "rcctl disable relayd" should list it for not-running and stop that line in the mail
14:12 < dfdx> ahhh... i probably enabled it but didn't start it. got it. thank you.
14:13 < IcePic> The script probably runs "rcctl ls failed"
14:14 < Lucas> it does, and also runs "rcctl ls rogue"
14:14 < Lucas> for scripts that are running but shouldn't be
14:15 < dfdx> super interesting. thanks. 
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14:29 < Foxy_> dfdx: solene@ added recently this check (services enabled but not running) in daily script
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14:30 < thrig> or use -f to start services you're only dabbling with so they're less likely to survive a reboot
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14:41 < dfdx> yes, I am now down a rabbit hole cleaning up /etc/rc.conf.local...
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14:46 < thrig> or test on virts that you throw away or rollback, etc
14:46 < thrig> (I follow none of this advice most of the time.)
14:46 < sibiria> false prophet!!
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14:48 < dfdx> another weird thing in my daily OpenBSD (in)security mail is from cron: Subject: Cron <root@sandslash> doas -u www /usr/local/bin/php -f /var/www/nextcloud/cron.php
14:48 < dfdx> the body of the mail has this: which: pageres: Command not found.
14:49 < dfdx> but when I manually run `doas -u www /usr/local/bin/php -f /var/www/nextcloud/cron.php` it runs with no errors (indeed, no output at all).
14:49 < dfdx> not sure if I'm missing something obvious? I know that pageres is not installed, and I know one of nextcloud php "apps" relies on it. but I can't seem to reproduce this error...
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14:55 < Janicious> Why openbsd removed godot 3 LTS Version and added Godot 4 without OpenGL 2.0 Support? :(
14:56 < Janicious> Just add "godot4" instead of removing 3
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15:01 < thrig> cron isn't exactly the same environment as a live terminal
15:02 < dfdx> thrig: yeah, I even tried changing my shell to "sh" first and re-ran the command, still with no errors. I guess I don't know as much about cron as I thought.
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15:13 < RobbieAB> dfdx: $PATH strikes me as the obvious candidate here.
15:15 < RobbieAB> I have definite memories of cron running tasks in environments with a different $PATH to the shell when running the task manually.
15:17 < Bradipo> Except, the cronjob uses an absolute path to php.
15:17 < Bradipo> So just *which* command is not found?
15:18 < Bradipo> "which: pageres: Command not found.
15:18 < Bradipo> "
15:18 < Bradipo> I suppose it's which complaining about not finding pageres?
15:18 < Bradipo> And where is pageres to be found?  Who is calling `which pageres`?
15:20 < RobbieAB> Presumably something in the php
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15:26 < dfdx> yes... I tried opening /var/www/nextcloud/cron.php to inspect it. but as I know zero php, i wasn't able to get very far. grepping for pagres in that file yieleded zero results. I know its some nextcloud php "app" that wants to use it, but I need that app and pageres failing doesn't really matter to me. I was just wondering why I can't replicate the error.
15:27 < Bradipo> Well, if you want to try to "replicate" it, you need to setup the same environment that cron uses.
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15:28 < Bradipo> As RobbieAB said, it's probably just your PATH that's different.
15:29 < Bradipo> I don't see any documentation regarding cron's environment.
15:29 < Bradipo> So it probably just picks it up from /etc/login.conf or something.
15:31 < dfdx> thanks everyone.
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15:44 < op2> Janicious: not sure i'm following.  the `godot' package is at 3.x, `godot4` at 4.x.  we're keeping both versions in packages
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16:05 < pardis> dfdx: unrelated to the error, but is there a particular reason you have root's crontab running 'doas -u www ...' instead of just putting the command in www's crontab?
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16:11 < dfdx> pardis: no. I never even thought to do that.
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16:27 < polarian> hmmm... when inet alias is used on a pppoe device, the pppoe address disappeares...
16:27 < polarian> both ifconfig -a and ifconfig ONLY show the alias address
16:28 < polarian> not the address negotiated within the pppoe connection
16:28 < polarian> any ideas?
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17:12 < jrmu> How does openbsd obtain most of its wifi firmware? Are they mostly donated by companies or reverse engineered or something else?
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17:16 < phy1729> ports/sysutils/firmware looks promising
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17:16 < jrmu> thanks phy1729 
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17:27 < pardis> there is also some in /sys, where licensing permits
17:27 < pardis> more specifically /sys/dev/microcode
17:28 < jrmu> thanks, will look there as well
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17:33 < zorz> hello! can somebody explain me please why cpu3 runs 3200.01 MHz, cpu4 runs 3200.00 MHz, cpu5 runs 3200.01 MHz and so on ? dmesg --> https://dpaste.com/8LF5WJ2EV.txt
17:33 < Bradipo> At least they aren't running 3200.01, 3200.02, and 3200.03, 3200.04, etc...
17:34 < zorz> Bradipo: sometimes i see 3200.02
17:34 < zorz> :P
17:36 < sibiria> zorz: i think what you're seeing is the SMT
17:37 < sibiria> disable it in the EFI/BIOS and you will see only your 8 actual CPU cores, all of the same freq.
17:37 < zorz> sibiria: the thing works extremely well. i just see this 3200.01 and i am thinking if its something to worry ?
17:37 < sibiria> i just told you what it is
17:38 < zorz> sibiria: ok thanks!
17:39 < Bradipo> What exactly does it mean then?
17:39 < Bradipo> Is there some significance to the .xx?
17:39 < sibiria> SMT is "hyper threading"
17:39 < Bradipo> Understood what SMT is.  But what do the fractional values mean?
17:39 < sibiria> i think it's just some differentiator
17:40 < sibiria> similar to how "boost" frequencies are reported as 1 MHz above maximum clock
17:40 < sibiria> e.g. 1800 MHz and 1801 MHz
17:40 < Bradipo> zorz: Where did you see that?  In systat(1) output?
17:41 < zorz> Bradipo: dmesg
17:41 < Bradipo> What does "systat sensors" show?
17:41 < zorz> Bradipo: this is my dmesg https://dpaste.com/8LF5WJ2EV.txt
17:41 < zorz> did not check
17:42 < Bradipo> Ok, just curious.
17:42 < Bradipo> My dmesg shows something similar...
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17:43 < Bradipo> In dmesg I find: 3392.54 MHz, 3392.61 MHz, 3392.43 MHz,  3392.54 MHz
17:43 < Bradipo> But systat sensors shows 3400000000.00 Hz for all 4 CPUs.
17:45 < zorz> Bradipo: this is my systat now https://f.uguu.se/RyFzbzyh.png
17:45 < zorz> are not the same
17:47 < zelest> they're all different here as well
17:50 < SiFuh> I bet the CPU readings are different on boot 
17:51 < SiFuh> I bet they are different again on each boot as well.
17:51 < thrig> it's gone to plaid speed!
17:52 < SiFuh> heh
17:52 < Bradipo> Interesting that your CPUs are even numbered like that.
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17:55 < zorz> the thing works fast... anyway next reboot i check the bios/efi as sibiria suggested.
17:56 < zorz> thank you guys!
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17:57 < SiFuh> zorz: Check your previous dmesg with your current dmesg
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18:00 < zorz> SiFuh: i deleted 5 dmesg today
18:00 < zorz> tomorrow new one :)
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18:01 < SiFuh> Save them all and compare them. No expert but the reading may be taken on the fly 
18:02 < zorz> okay
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18:03 < Bradipo> Isn't dmesg output saved in /var/log/messages?
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18:03 < Bradipo> You can just look at /var/log/messages and compare cpu measurements over time.
18:04 < Bradipo> grep "cpu0:.* MHz" /var/log/messages
18:05 < Bradipo> Reveals to me that the values are different each boot.
18:05 < Bradipo> Though, very similar.
18:05 < SiFuh> Bradipo: I just checked mine. All different readings each boot
18:07 < SiFuh> Seems as I thought. An 'on boot' reading 
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18:08 < SiFuh> I hope the next version of OpenBSD works on my laptop. I am still on 7.4 because 7.5 crashes too much
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18:08 < SiFuh> Even can't launch xenodm. But startX works fine
18:12 < SiFuh> I had a quick poke around but, I really don't have the time. Lots of stuff to do. 
18:13 < zorz> Bradipo: https://dpaste.com/DYN9T82PR.txt
18:13 < SiFuh> zorz'z laptop was suppose to be the same hardware as mine, but it turned out that even though we have same brand and same model number, we have different hardware.
18:14 < SiFuh> zorz: Why would you send that?
18:14 < zorz> this is the grep "cpu$i:.* MHz" /var/log/messages
18:15 < SiFuh> zorz: "Bradipo. Yes it is the same, different readings each boot"  <-- Simple
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18:18 < pardis> it doesn't really make sense to say this is SMT-related
18:18 < pardis> multiple threads on the same core would *have* to be at the same clock speed
18:21 < SiFuh> pardis: Correct 
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18:41 < vortexx> mh, not directly OpenBSD related but we do debate how good various filesystems are, well my laptop after reboot into ubuntu has lost the zvol my homedir was on. Luckily I have daily backups so can restore, but it is extremely strange that the SSD has it missing. SSD doesn't have any errors according to smartctl
18:41 < vortexx> I'll have to boot into OpenBSD to check that part of the drive is ok too
18:42 < Bradipo> If OpenBSD is not ok, then that would suggest a hardware problem.
18:42 < Bradipo> Unless you were booted into OpenBSD.
18:42 < sibiria> crappy SSD that fakes being done with writes?
18:43 < RobbieAB> Shouldn't wipe out the whole zvol surely?
18:47 < thrig> computers run great, until they don't
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18:50 < vortexx> Bradipo: yes it may well be a hw issue, I reboot from ubuntu into ubuntu
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19:21 < vortexx> sibiria: it's the one that came with Dell XPS 9310, I've never had an SSD from a Dell XPS fail me
19:22 < vortexx> laptop is 3.5 years old
19:22 < vortexx> RobbieAB: all the other zvols are still in the zpool, but my home dir got whiped somehow
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19:27 < sibiria> though dell is notorious for making incredibly shitty laptops
19:27 < sibiria> keyboards failing at exactly 12 month mark etc.
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19:36 < thrig> correctly optimized for the service period and profit ratio (ignoring pissed of users, of course)
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19:40 < vortexx> sibiria: XPS aren't the low end ones
19:40 < vortexx> I'm sure lenovo's cheap ones aren't too good past the 12 month mark
19:40 < vortexx> it's hard to find a good manufacturer these days
19:40 < thrig> vs. scsi voodoo in the olden days
19:41 < thrig> and having to erase the corrosion off the copper contacts
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19:45 < sibiria> my trusty macbooks just keep spinning without hiccups
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20:01 < PyR3X> I have several internal web services listening on localhost on various ports.. I have relayd setup for tls acceleration and matching host values and tagging to forward to the correct services. Currently I restrict access to services by ip + tag. Is there not a way to set an interface instead of an ip so I can restrict traffic to say a specific vlan
20:01 < PyR3X> interface? 
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20:33 < RobbieAB> Ok, so if I disable the unused value warning, darktable builds without SSE again.
20:33 < RobbieAB> Meh, wrong window. Sorry. 
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21:39 < moviuro> hi all, using relayd -vv with this config spits out lots of errors: https://x0.at/X-qc.txt -- relay_connect: session 1: forward failed: Resource temporarily unavailable relay_close: sessions inflight decremented, now 0
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21:53 < moviuro> at least, the filtering part works, and I get 403 forbidden for the links I expect to block. But the "redirect to destination" doesn't. HTTP/1.0 502 Bad Gateway
21:54 < moviuro> *forward to destination
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22:17 < moviuro> ok, I was using rdr-to instead of divert-to in pf.conf(5). However, I'm encountering some weird issues with pf.conf(5) now. pass  in quick log on $in_phy_if inet proto tcp to ! (self:network) port www divert-to 10.207.51.1 port 8080 # ok that works # @102 pass in log quick on em0 inet proto tcp from any to ! (self:network:*) port = 80 flags S/SA divert-to 10.207.51.1 port 8080 --- but this doesn't
22:17 < moviuro> for some reason? pass  in quick log on $in_phy_if inet proto tcp to ! (self:network) port www divert-to ($iot_if) port 8080 # /etc/pf.conf:140: syntax error
22:18 < moviuro> NB: iot_if is defined and used in numerous other places
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22:23 < sibiria> moviuro: don't enclose the divert-to destination in parens
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22:57 < mystic> hello guys, anyone know how to redirect outgoing traffic to localhost:port ? I read the pf.conf man and say that rdr-to localhost is not supported. 
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23:01 < sibiria> nat-to
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23:04 < mystic> but nat-to translate the source ip, how can redirect the destination of the stream ? Anyway I try, thanks.
23:08 < sibiria> oh sorry, i misread your question
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23:11 < sibiria> it's a bit tricky, i guess. unless you need to rewrite the packet, divert-to may work
23:11 < vortexx> from the squid pkg-readme, divert-to works
23:11 < sibiria> it can manifest the packet on e.g. lo0, but with maintained addresses so that you can handle diversion correctly
23:13 < vortexx> pass in quick log inet proto tcp to port 80 divert-to 127.0.0.1 port 3127 <-- for ex mystic 
23:14 < mystic> yep, but squid works in forwarding traffic... so there is if_int --> if_ext. So the traffic enter from outside and can be diverted. But diverted cannot work using "pass out" because traffic come from inside..and go out..
23:16 < mystic> I want from my machine redirect the outgoing traffic to localhost.. it's like would be a listening transparent squid in localhost.. 
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23:17 < mystic> so the rule should be:
23:17 < mystic> pass out log inet proto tcp from any to port xxx divert-to 127.0.0.1 port xxx 
23:17 < mystic> but divert does not support "pass out"
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23:21 < mystic> I try to ask in misc
23:21 < thrig> a firewall prone to fainting spells may not be very effective
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23:25 < pardis> it might be helpful to explain the goal, rather than the proposed solution
23:25 < pardis> (i.e., what will redirecting traffic in this way accomplish?)
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23:34 < mystic> pardis: sure. Well I have the sslsplit software listening on localhost. sslsplit is for decrypting tls traffic and it acts like a transparent proxy but not like conventional proxy (you set up the browser). So I have to redirect outgoing (port 443 and port 80) traffic to localhost. 
23:37 < mystic> in the sslsplit man there is writte the following pf rule that obviously is wrong:
23:38 < mystic> pass in quick on em0 proto tcp from  192.0.2.0/24 to any \ port 443 rdr-to 127.0.0.1 port 10443
23:38 < mystic> I'm sorry it's not wrong.. it's just a setup for a forwarding server... indeed there is "pass in" directive
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23:44 < mystic> here is the pf.conf man with hightlight where it says that rdr-to works only with inbound traffic. https://shorturl.at/Fzx0h
23:45 < pardis> you could perhaps set up a bridge(4) with a vether(4) as the interface with your default route
23:46 < pardis> I *think* you could then do a 'pass in' filter on the bridge
23:46 < pardis> not an elegant solution, but as far as I'm aware there is no way to tell the kernel to route a packet to a local address once it has already done enough routing to match a 'pass out' rule
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