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01:54 < jrmu> is it possible to set up a GRE tunnel when one of the endpoints is behind NAT? Without requiring hole punching or any modifications to NAT
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02:30 < dlg> pf doesnt know enough about gre unfortunately
02:30 < dlg> it might be enough if the host inside initiates the flow of packets
02:30 < dlg> you could probably rdr it in too
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02:36 < jcs> hi dlg 
02:36 < dlg> jcs!
02:36 < jcs> what's good
02:36  * dlg wave vaguely
02:37 < dlg> you ever had a surface go refuse to power on?
02:37 < jcs> i don't think so?
02:37 < jrmu> dlg: hmm, thanks. Maybe ipsec plus pf is the best way to tunnel
02:37 < dlg> jrmu: tunnel what?
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02:38 < jrmu> I wanted to see if it were possible to host from home using a tunnel to a server in the data center
02:38 < dlg> i usually use wg for that, but sec(4) might be a good option now
02:39 < dlg> jcs: ive been trying to turn small touch screen things into dashboards
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04:56 < rnkn> I think chatGPT is lying to me; can httpd block MIME types?
04:57 < rnkn> i.e. block application/javascript
05:03 < ssm_> rnkn: please don't use the bullshit machine for documentation, especially for something as semi-obscure as openbsd (it's bad enough with popular stuff). OpenBSD docs are great, and http.conf(5) is full of examples (there's also /etc/examples/httpd.conf).
05:04 < ssm_> Anyways, I don't think httpd can block mimetypes, or rather there are no mimetypes enabled by default, you add them with the types section
05:05 < rnkn> ssm_: thanks for your input, I checked the man page beforehand, results inconclusive
05:05 < ssm_> something like types { include "/usr/share/misc/mime.types" \n text/plain c cpp h sh conf cfg }
05:06 < rnkn> yeah I was thinking just text/plain js
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05:07 < rnkn> but I guess will that actually disable javascript
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06:56 < pixificial> I wonder why OpenHTTPD does not define .xhtml types. I don't think they are included in the default set of types{}, as it serves them with application/octet-stream instead of application/xhtml+xml.
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06:58 < pixificial> Because of this, I am not sure if my software should correctly create them as .html files or incorrectly create them as .xhtml files just to maintain compatibility with the default configuration.
06:58 < pixificial> The other way around, correctly as .xhtml* and incorrectly as .html*.
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07:02 < quinq> pixificial, just expand types {} as you need
07:03 < quinq> Also /usr/share/misc/mime.types already has that
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07:55 < pixificial> quinq: I tried looking but at /usr/share/mime.types instead of /usr/share/misc/mime.types. Thank you. I will implement it correctly I believe.
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07:56 < pixificial> But why does not OpenBSD have this defined as per default? It is not a new standard either and published by W3.
07:57 < pixificial> Actually it does exist in mime.types file!
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08:20 < quinq> I suppose because it's a bit redundant
08:21 < quinq> XHTML files already embed a header explaining the application how to process it, don't them?
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09:55 < pixificial> quinq: Right, but the Content-Type header states text/html even though the recommended <https://www.w3.org/2003/01/xhtml-mimetype/> Content-Type header is application/xhtml+xml.
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11:48 < sir-photch> is there anything similar to the /sys/firmware/acpi filesystem of linux in openbsd?
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12:19 < oldlaptop> sir-photch: you might get further asking how to do what you're trying to do with that
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12:20 < oldlaptop> the straight answer to your question is not very useful: openbsd does not have virtual filesystems for that kind of thing
12:20 < oldlaptop> (or virtual filesystems in general)
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12:34 < sir-photch> oldlaptop: rather mundane actually, I'm trying to access "/sys/firmware/acpi/bgrt" to change the UEFI boot image
12:34 < sibiria> do you mean the EFI boot applications, or something at lower level?
12:35 < sibiria> the former you can find on the ESP which is a normal FAT32 partition
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12:37 < rnkn> is the version of fuse in openbsd as old as it is because of the GPL?
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13:17 < rnkn> oh I see, ISC
13:17 < rnkn> does anyone know of a way to mount s3 buckets on openBSD?
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13:24 < sibiria> s3fusefs?
13:24 < sibiria> pkg_info says likely not available. i'm out of ideas then
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13:32 < rnkn> s3fs-fuse requires FUSE v2.8.4, OpenBSD has 2.6
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13:44 < sibiria> it's a shame backblaze stopped offering sftp access
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14:55 < oldlaptop> rnkn: openbsd's fuse implementation is, so far as I know, an independent one (and has perhaps not recieved vast, overwhelming quantities of development effort)
14:57 < oldlaptop> I would imagine patches are welcome, but maybe there aren't all that many people (even by "patches welcome" standards) able to mail in patches for filesystem code
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16:01 < Oddmonger> ehlol, i'm trying to boot (for the install, it will be later) a rockpro64 (dev card arm64 based) with the install75.img for arm64. Nothing happens (black screen)
16:01 < Oddmonger> /ehlol/hello
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16:02 < Oddmonger> i've just « cp install75.img /dev/mysdcard », and checked it (3 partitions created, one i could read from linux, the two others are UFS)
16:03 < Oddmonger> so the sdcard seems ok. Is there some things to do after dumping the install image to the sdcard, for arm archs ?
16:06 < kodcode> Oddmonger: https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.5/arm64/INSTALL.arm64 
16:06 < sibiria> you should dd it
16:07 < sibiria> plain copy to device doesn't always do an identical block transfer
16:07 < sibiria> just as a good habit, that is
16:07 < Oddmonger> let's try to dd, but i could read it from linux after cp
16:08 < sibiria> for some Arm SoCs you will need to shoehorn some firmware onto the medium afterwards. the install intructions detail which and how
16:08 < Oddmonger> ah that must be that
16:16 < Oddmonger> ok so the SoC is a RK3399
16:18 < Oddmonger> it's listed in the targets of OpenBSD/arm64
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16:19 < Oddmonger> i've redone copy with dd, to be sure
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16:20 < Oddmonger> what does this mean ?  «When you have connected the serial to your computer, a command such
16:20 < Oddmonger>   as "cu -l cuaU0 -s 115200" (assuming cuaU0 is your serial port device)
16:20 < Oddmonger>   should connect you to the board's console.»
16:21 < Oddmonger> am i supposed to connect the board from usb to my PC ?
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16:42 < kodcode> Oddmonger: ×does your board have an UART interface? 
16:43 < kodcode> If so, you can connect your board to your PC with an UART to TTL adapter
16:44 < sibiria> on some boards you can get the software framebuffer working for the installation
16:45 < sibiria> at the boot prompt, write:  set tty fb0
16:45 < sibiria> then:  boot
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16:45 < sibiria> with some luck the rockpro64 is one of those boards
16:47 < vortexx> or maybe it as has a USB tty interface.
16:48 < Oddmonger> hum they say it should not be powered with 5V and USB is 5V isn't it
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16:49 < Oddmonger> let's try to copy the good files to EFI partition, instead ^^'
16:50 < sibiria> you won't be powering the board over the serial port or the USB console connection. those are just for comms
16:51 < Oddmonger> ah … so i can power it as usual, and just plug the usb for trying
16:51 < Oddmonger> let's try, that costs nothing
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16:52 < sibiria> try software framebuffer first
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17:02 < Oddmonger> too much things i don't understand, i give up and will find a classical PC for trying
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17:03 < Oddmonger> the needed files for booting are on sdcard, but nothing happens anyway
17:04 < kodcode> Oddmonger: I see that your board has an UART interface. Do you have an UART to serial adapter?
17:05 < xse> https://marc.info/?t=171423074600001 might be worth reading
17:06 < Oddmonger> kodcode: i don't have cable like this
17:07 < Oddmonger> xse: indeed, it seems the « boot » part has to be copied separatly
17:09 < xse> (was also mentionned in the INSTALL file 'For systems based on Rockchip RK33xx SoCs')
17:10 < Oddmonger> don't move the knife in the wound
17:10 < kodcode> Oddmonger: I don't know of a different way to set up a console (you need a console to see the boot prompt)
17:11 < kodcode> https://pine64.org/documentation/ROCKPro64/Getting_started/ for more details how to set up the wires
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17:20 < Oddmonger> the state of my sdcard. Seems there is no « bootblock » on it (if uboot has some magic text like wintel bootblocks) https://x0.at/cmDM.txt
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17:33 < Oddmonger> it seems that i must use a serial console to perform the installation, even with a full set usb card media … couldn't believe it
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17:35 < Oddmonger> me think serial console was only for hard case, not the « casual » way of doing it Oo ^^'
17:39 < Oddmonger> is it a problem related to rockpro64 ? I have a raspberry and for installing an OS, i just need to flash it on an SD card (it's a bit more tricky for using SSD, but you can cheat by booting from the sdcard)
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17:42 < Oddmonger> i've just checked , it sems that even on raspberry you need the serial console step for installing openbsd
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17:58 < xse> "set tty fb0" works on rpi, still having a serial console can help a lot
17:59 < Oddmonger> i will buy a uart-usb cable for retrying
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18:05 < kodcode> Oddmonger: Once you do so, remember not connect the Power wire from that cable to your board, as you mentioned, USB from your PC is 5V and your board needs only 3V
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18:06 < Oddmonger> so the board will be powered the usual way (on power connector, with charger) ?
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18:08 < kodcode> Oddmonger: Yep. 3V, 3A. 
18:08 < Oddmonger> noted, thank you
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18:27 < pixificial> Hey, I was wondering if there is any directory into which software that are not packaged should be installed. On GNU+Linux, /usr/local is mostly unused but OpenBSD uses it for packages outside the base system I believe. Basically, what is the best practice for DESTDIR for software that won't be managed by or related to the pkg_* suite?
18:28 < thrig> there is no best practice, common solutions might involve home dirs or /opt or who knows what
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18:29 < phy1729> Or make a port
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18:30 < pixificial> thrig: Okay, I think I will go with "$HOME/usr" or "$HOME/usr/local". Thank you.
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18:31 < pixificial> phy1729: Possible :). I'd like to do that. Firstly I need to be more familiar with OpenBSD before I port or maintain things though.
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18:33 < phy1729> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/index.html walks you through the process
18:33 < pixificial> phy1729: It is fascinating how sane the system truly is though. Users are actually not sugarcoating it; it is quite simple and elegant for a mainstream operating system.
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18:34 < pixificial> phy1729: Yeah I checked it a year ago. I just want a wider understanding of not just the ports system but the OS as a whole in general first, then specialise with things from there.
18:36 < thrig> for ~/ I use ~/usr/OpenBSD7.5-amd64 (or equivalent)
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18:38 < pixificial> thrig: What about software that had shown itself to work on multiple OpenBSD versions or architectures? That would imply multiple copies of the identical repository exists in your ~.
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18:42 < thrig> I also have a ~/bin directory for the portable stuff
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18:43 < pixificial> I see.
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21:17 < sonya> pixificial: the only thing to remember - # man ldconfig ( especially -m flag ) when you're installing to the custom DESTDIR .. and things like 'wxallowed' also should be kept in mind..
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23:18 < mischief> is there anything that can categorize/summarize pf states? like, x connections outbound to y port, or x connections inbound to y port
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23:22 < thrig> pfctl -s states | awk '/<-/{print $3}' | tally
23:22 < thrig> where tally is `sort | uniq -c | sort -nr` but much more efficient
23:27 < mischief> my real goal is to figure out how to use openbsd to tame ipfs
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23:27 < mischief> 30000 states and my latency spikes really high
23:34 < thrig> dataswamp.org indicates in 2021 that the "cpu was too high" and so ipfs stopped being used
23:39 < mischief> yea, i read solene's blog but i don't think they ever actually solved the connection problem
23:39 < mischief> i don't have a cpu problem on a 7950x :)
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