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00:19 < mischief> okay, i think this kind of works?
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00:21 < mischief> queue ipfs parent top bandwidth 1M max 2M burst 5M for 500ms
00:21 < mischief> match on egress proto { tcp, udp } from any to any port 4001 set queue ipfs
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02:05 < mcc> Hey everyone, I had a kernel panic all off a sudden, and now when I reboot I get the error `Using drive 0, partition 3. Loading. ERR R`. Any tips for how I can recover it? Seems something failed when reading the disk sector https://man.openbsd.org/biosboot
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02:09 < oldlaptop> The obvious suspicion would be a bad disk.
02:11 < mcc> Yeah, maybe the disk broke
02:14 < mcc> Guessing there is no way to boot from a rescue cd and try to salvage it?
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02:20 < oldlaptop> Booting from a rescue CD will not un-break a disk, no.
02:20 < oldlaptop> It might be one way to find out whether the disk is actually broken.
02:21 < mcc> Hmm, so I booted from a openbsd usb
02:21 < mcc> and it shows up as an install option, not sure how to check if it's actually broken
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02:23 < oldlaptop> I would want to get SMART readings out of it (sysutils/smartmontools), I would maybe mount it and try reading things, I would try to eliminate other possible hardware problems - the data cables and power supply spring to mind
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09:19 < lts> https://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-threat-research/2024/07/01/regresshion-remote-unauthenticated-code-execution-vulnerability-in-openssh-server
09:19 < lts> "OpenBSD systems are unaffected by this bug, as OpenBSD developed a secure mechanism in 2001 that prevents this vulnerability."
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09:27 < vortexx> or why I use OpenBSD as the router/firewall on all my networks.
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09:32 < RobbieAB> lts: Yes, I like that line. 
09:32 < zelest> Just use telnetd.. no one will looks for vulns there ;)
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09:48 < vortexx> quite unfortunate that this vuln was reintroduced in 8.5p1
09:57 < sibiria> gonna be a lot of rumbling and tumbling on the internet from this one
09:59 < rnkn> I like that they designed a logo, every vulnerability needs a logo to be taken seriously
09:59 < vortexx> yep, remote execution vulns are an admin's worse nightmare
10:01 < sibiria> rnkn: i wonder if there's a job title for that. i mean, if "chatgpt prompt writer" is a thing...
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10:20 < dennis> Can someone please confirm wether wildcards are still working in openssh 9.7/openbsd 7.5 when adding ssh-keys with destination constraints using `ssh-add -h '*'`? I can't get this working, and I'm wondering if I have some special local settings, or if I'm just crazy. https://clbin.com/G4GU9
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10:24 < quinq> dennis, at least documentation still says it should be supported
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10:27 < quinq> % head -n1 ~/.ssh/known_hosts, does that work with /Users/dennis/.ssh/known_hosts too?
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10:41 < dennis> quinq: yes :) ~/ is /Users/dennis. Apparently I copied this from the wrong terminal with macOS. But it behaves the same on openbsd
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10:45 < dennis> https://clbin.com/eDJj1 for openbsd
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11:02 < DINOWILLIAM> lsls -
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11:03 < DINOWILLIAM> Ops, using mirc with the same color as the bash is not appearing to be a good idea
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11:28 < oldlaptop> re openssh hole: that webpage helpfully includes a link to the non-chatgpt version: https://www.qualys.com/2024/07/01/cve-2024-6387/regresshion.txt
11:29 < oldlaptop> reading AI-generated puff pieces about security holes turns out to be a uniquely horrifying experience
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11:29 < oldlaptop> wonder if they did that for the logo too
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11:54 < byteskeptical> oldlaptop: qualys' writeups are such a nice divergence from the typical ad-riddled, copy pasta
11:57 < oldlaptop> I wonder if the various linux "hardening" patches are useful there. (notably they report successful exploits only against i386, and taking advantage of linux's relatively weak ASLR; presumably would be a fair bit harder to exploit on openbsd in the absence of syslog_r() (the "secure mechanism" the chatgpt PR piece is talking about))
11:58 < oldlaptop> byteskeptical: Qualys appears to have produced two "writeups": one by the actual security researchers, and one by the marketing department; one of these two groups can write prose without LLMs.
11:58 < oldlaptop> The tagline blames what sounds like a pretty high-level executive type.
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12:05 < byteskeptical> well I'm glad I only found the one. That and it took ~10000 requests even on the weak ASLR 
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12:11  * sonya notes that Monday is full of surprises.. as usual..
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12:24 < aaronm04> regresshion is a great name
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12:29 < sibiria> it's catchy, and the fancy logo earns it a 4 out 5 score. the full 5 points are only awarded to backronyms
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12:33 < quinq> Yeah dennis, it's kind of “obvious”, but that's the kind of detail that can reveal a problem and that's easy to check ^^
12:33 < quinq> Sorry though, don't have more ideas right now, and am tied with work
12:35 < dennis> (:
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13:52 < echkourine25> Hello
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13:56 < echkourine25> Hum ... how can I say ... what is the diff between packet filter and proxy ?
13:56 < echkourine25> i was using packet filter long time ago it's the only "firewall" I know
13:57 < echkourine25> does authpf still exist ?
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14:29 < vortexx> echkourine25: packet filter is kernel level, proxy is a userland daemon for relaying traffic
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14:29 < vortexx> authpf still exists iirc
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14:32 < echkourine25> and what about ioctl ?
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14:33 < echkourine25> I read the man but I'm a bit confused
14:34 < echkourine25> is authpf === author-noip ?
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15:15 < echkourine25> I have nodejs server running on openBSD I would know if it can be accessed outside the lan with 5G internet connection ?
15:15 < echkourine25> i have 5*ipv6 adresses but dunno what is what
15:17 < thrig> ideally these sorts of questions come with a network diagram
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15:24 < gman999> firewall host and network, netstat(1) output, etc.
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18:30 < eea> and i just read an article about that newest opensshd/linux CVE, author called out OpenBSD not being vulnerable due to sane security
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18:33 < thrig> glibc had some other syslog thing recently
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19:19 < normal_max2> Hello.
19:19 < normal_max2> I get gdb Dwarf Error:
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19:19 < normal_max2> wrong version in compilation unit header (is 5, should be 2
19:19 < normal_max2> I gess I need correct debugging option but I don't know which one.
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19:30 < thrig> EMISSINGDETAILS
19:31 < baclofen> hi, could you kind folk please unban the account housemate, ... ty. bbl.
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19:33 < sibiria> unbanning for slights that happened ages ago is not in line with the stasi protocols enforced here
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19:35 < phy1729> sibiria: they're already gone; how do you expect that to be useful?
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19:39 < quinq> The peace-keeping friendlies already snatched baclofen
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20:06 < echkourine25> How to create a centralised log server please
20:07 < echkourine25> I did one but I forget how I did it and lost my article
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20:07 < echkourine25> Oh I think I remembered it
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20:30 < pcarrier> hi! trying to install OpenBSD in UTM. "starting network" is followed by "Killed" "Killed" "Killed Killed" for no obvious reason, and the interface doesn't have an IP assigned. how can I troubleshoot?
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20:33 < sibiria> "killed killed" sounds very serious
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20:56 < pixificial> I wonder why ssh-keygen keeps private keys unencrypted.
20:57 < pixificial> A symmetric cipher by default would be nice.
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21:00 < phy1729> Did you try entering a password when prompted?
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21:01 < sibiria> pixificial: you can encrypt them. if you're using the agent, it has an option to keep them unlocked after first password entry
21:02 < sibiria> if they happen to share the same password as your user login, it can hold onto that too as part of you logging in
21:02 < pixificial> Oh nevermind then. Thank you.
21:03 < pixificial> Because I am making a few shell scripts to cover major uses of GPG using the openssl(1) stuff. I will soon push the scripts to my repository but I am wondering if I should keep private keys encrypted or unencrypted by default.
21:04 < Bradipo> Depends on the purpose of the key.
21:04 < pixificial> Decryption (for people whom sent an encrypted message to you) and signing.
21:04 < Bradipo> You use ssh-keygen for sending encrypted messages?
21:05 < sibiria> definitely password-protect that use case unless you need automated passing of the messages
21:06 < pixificial> Bradipo: No, I am making scripts that utilise openssl(1) only.
21:06 < thrig> in theory ssh keys are being used for git stuff too
21:06 < Bradipo> Ahh.
21:06 < pixificial> I mentioned ssh-keygen because I was checking sane defaults of other programs.
21:07 < pixificial> Or, whether they are sane or not.
21:07 < Bradipo> ssh-keygen does prompt for a passhprase by default.
21:08 < pixificial> And I supppose private keys should stay encrypted in the disk by default, right?
21:08 < Bradipo> Ideally.  Again it depends on the purpose.
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21:08 < Bradipo> But any keys pertaining to a human are probably best left with encryption on them.
21:08 < pixificial> If you were making something generate private kays. According to the aforementioned use cases / purposes.
21:08 < pixificial> keys*
21:08 < pixificial> Bradipo: Right, thanks.
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22:29 < pixificial> I encountered a problem with this. For signing, "openssl sha256 -sign ..." would be used but sign takes a file. I can not pass the private key to the command without writing the unencrypted form to disk.
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22:36 < pixificial> I suppose my only option is to make the command use rm -P on OpenBSD and shred -u on GNU+Linux.
22:36 < thrig> and to hit the hard drive with a hammer, or throw it into a volcano when done with it
22:37 < pixificial> Sure, I can prompt the users with that suggestion :).
22:37 < sibiria> though overwriting files have no practical use on flash storage because of wear-leveling
22:38 < thrig> that's where the volcano comes into play
22:38 < sibiria> use mfs/tmpfs
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22:44 < sibiria> have you considered using signify?
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22:52 < thrig> last this came up it was more like https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/reop
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23:29 < pixificial> sibiria: Signify is cool, my use case uses encryption too though.
23:30 < pixificial> thrig: reop is pretty cool. My problem is that I want it accessible, so the commands run on any system with coreutils and openssl(1).
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23:37 < pardis> you can pass /dev/fd/whatever to -sign
23:39 < Lucas> actually, openssl dgst supports -passin
23:39 < Lucas> isn't that one used for decrypting the private key in -sign?
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23:42 < izder456> Quick question, I ported kvantum to openbsd and started a mailing list thread about it.
23:43 < izder456> if i want to have a variant of said port to have Qt5 support in addition to Qt6, could i do that with a FLAVOR
23:43 < izder456> if so, how? 
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23:43 < izder456> all the Qt5 version needs is to run cmake --install ${BUILDSRC}/styles
23:44 < izder456> after building with -DUSE_Qt5=ON or whatever that flag is.
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