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Are there stupid obvious things I should check? 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Same errors in dmesg. 06:16 < benrc6> I check if the firmware is in /etc/firmware: Yes. 06:17 < benrc6> I upgrade to -current and run fw_update: No luck. 06:17 < benrc6> There is nothing which I can think of doing at this point to hopefully resolve the problem. 06:17 < benrc6> Does anyone have any ideas and or is there somewhere more appropriate to ask for help/report this? 06:17 < benrc6> Sorry, I'm a noob! 06:20 -!- d-ra [~d-ra@user/d-ra] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:21 -!- michel is now known as Voyager_MP 06:22 < quinq> benrc6, the man-page says it would indiciate that the firmware file is corrupted 06:23 < benrc6> I saw the manpage and I checked the sha256 but it was all good 06:24 < quinq> ok 06:24 < benrc6> So it's missing or corrupted but it appears to be neither 06:26 < quinq> So 617697a18fa2b9b1bc8453538527109aab467478de1f942b7e920e6bc417e75b (SHA256) 06:26 < quinq> Sorry, wrong file 06:27 < quinq> fd8977dbfacfe50b8a6601479aa9ffd21d01e274e4a9efd13935dd9d667fd45b (firmware/iwx-ty-a0-gf-a0-77) 06:27 -!- UDENIX [~UDENIX@user/udenix] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:29 < quinq> And yes there's the misc mailing list https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html 06:30 < benrc6> I just doublec 06:30 < benrc6> I just double checked and yes, that's the sha256 06:30 -!- polyduekes [~polydueke@user/polyduekes] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32 -!- m1dnight [~christoph@82.146.125.185] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.2.2] 06:32 -!- m1dnight [~christoph@82.146.125.185] has joined #openbsd 06:41 -!- UDENIX [~UDENIX@user/udenix] has joined #openbsd 06:42 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 06:42 -!- cleptho [~cleptho@user/cleptho] has quit [Server closed connection] 06:42 -!- cleptho [~cleptho@user/cleptho] has joined #openbsd 06:44 -!- lockna_ [~lockna@static.139.16.130.94.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 06:44 -!- lockna [~lockna@2a01:4f8:10b:14f1::2] has joined #openbsd 06:45 -!- TinyTimmyTokyo [~TinyTimmy@kuschku.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 06:45 -!- TinyTimmyTokyo [TinyTimmyT@kuschku.de] has joined #openbsd 06:49 < brynet> benrc6: can you upload your complete dmesg somewhere? 06:49 < benrc6> yes, one sec 06:56 < benrc6> https://pastebin.com/cJmAthAX 06:58 < brynet> iwx0: hw rev 0x420, fw 77.f92b5fed.0, pnvm ce1a5094, address b0:47:e9:1e:75:5d 06:58 < brynet> the firmware is loaded 06:58 < brynet> so the error you were seeing was probably from a previous boot, the dmesg is a circular buffer 06:58 -!- cation [cation@user/cation] has joined #openbsd 06:58 < benrc6> Ohhh 06:59 < benrc6> I had no idea that dmesg worked that way. Thank you. 06:59 < brynet> have you attempted to connect to a wifi network? 07:00 < benrc6> Yes and it wasn't working so I checked the dmesg and I mistakenly realized that the firmware wasn't loading 07:00 -!- xelxebar [~xelxebar@wilsonb.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in] 07:01 < brynet> yeah, if you just reboot as opposed to doing a poweroff/cold boot then the kernel will attempt to preserve the boot log. 07:01 < brynet> doesn't work on every machine, some clear the memory. 07:07 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has joined #openbsd 07:08 < benrc6> Okay, this is so ridiculous and I'm such a numbskull. brynet, I was using my ACTUAL hostname .iwx0 instead of hostname.iwx0, leading me to have no WiFi, and mistakenly blaming the firmware SMH! You really helped me out thanks! 07:09 < brynet> glad you got it sorted :) 07:09 -!- tuu [~tuu@ip-109-43-112-187.web.vodafone.de] has joined #openbsd 07:09 < brynet> btw if that was you posting over on reddit, can you share your resolution there too? 07:10 < benrc6> I'm already on it! 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Do i still need to use UART console mysterii commnands ? Or can i boot directly without further ado ? 08:32 < vortexx> you'll need the UART console to set where it redirects to so you can boot into the installer and complete the install 08:33 < Oddmonger> even if the sd card is ready , and that i've set the jumpers of rp64 to use sd card ? 08:34 < vortexx> yes 08:35 < vortexx> because you may need to enter "set tty fb0" or "set tty com0" depending on the board. I don't have arm64 stuff and INSTALL.arm64 doesn't seem to have specific information for your board 08:36 -!- gaussianblue [~gaussianb@user/gaussianblue] has joined #openbsd 08:37 < Oddmonger> but i understand that uart must be used for unsupported cards, but for a supported card whose install process embedded idbloader.img and u-boot.idb ? 08:38 < Oddmonger> i mean, installing ubuntu is just putting the sdcard in the sd reader, so what is the difference here if everything is already shipped ? 08:38 -!- SiFuh [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:38 -!- SiFuh [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has joined #openbsd 08:39 < Oddmonger> and it seems even for a raspberry i need to use uart cable, so that's very strange to me (and i'm afraid to brick or fry the board) 08:40 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has joined #openbsd 08:41 < Oddmonger> i've searched youtube for rockpro64+openbsd, with no luck (at this step, i'm afraid i need to see for understanding) 08:42 < Oddmonger> if i look this one: https://blog.burelli.fr/en/arm/arm64-install-openbsd-rockpro64/ , it seems that idbloader and u-boot are installed on the emmc, and not on the usb key 08:43 -!- CrashOverride [~strcat@p548542d2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 08:45 < vortexx> OpenBSD isn't as polished on arm64 as ubuntu is 08:45 < vortexx> thus the many hoops to jump through 08:46 < Oddmonger> that's me too, there are too many « holes » in my understanding 08:48 -!- tercaL [~tercaL@user/tercal] has joined #openbsd 08:49 -!- delucks [~delucks@165.22.41.69] has quit [Server closed connection] 08:49 -!- delucks [~delucks@165.22.41.69] has joined #openbsd 08:56 -!- aaronm04 [~user@user/aaronm04] has quit [Server closed connection] 08:57 -!- aaronm04 [~user@user/aaronm04] has joined #openbsd 08:57 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has joined #openbsd 08:59 -!- fstd_ [~fstd@xdsl-78-35-202-247.nc.de] has joined #openbsd 08:59 -!- fstd [~fstd@xdsl-87-78-126-219.nc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 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brynet> Oddmonger: The reason you need a serial cable is because you'll be writing an instaler image, OpenBSD doesn't provide live or pre-installed images. 10:06 < Oddmonger> i have read a bit more, and serial console seems to be needed after the boot, because openbsd installer cannot initialize video output of rp64 10:07 < Oddmonger> so the serial console would be used for the installation process (not the boot) 10:07 -!- cgull [~cgull@207.180.129.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:08 < Oddmonger> i've read this one especially: https://bsandro.tech/posts/openbsd-7.1-on-pine64-rockpro64/ 10:10 -!- bluejaypop [~josefig@user/josefig] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:23 -!- rak [~rak@debian/rak] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:24 -!- rak [~rak@debian/rak] has joined #openbsd 10:24 -!- cgull [~cgull@207.180.129.73] has joined #openbsd 10:24 -!- lts [~foobar@user/lts] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:24 -!- lts [~foobar@user/lts] has joined #openbsd 10:26 -!- 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I'd test but I don't want connectivity to be lost 12:24 < sibiria> nothing happens, because you have no dhcp client functionality 12:24 < PyR3X> that's what I thought thank you 12:24 < sibiria> that is, you will not be making dhcp requests, interface won't be configured automatically 12:25 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 12:25 < sibiria> you can use other dhcp clients for this, but as far as "autoconf" is concerned openbsd only deals with dhcpleased 12:31 -!- cell [~access@cm-58-10-11-135.revip7.asianet.co.th] has joined #openbsd 12:31 -!- jsolano [~juan@li2042-246.members.linode.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:31 -!- jsolano [~juan@li2042-246.members.linode.com] has joined #openbsd 12:31 -!- cell is now known as access 12:31 -!- access [~access@cm-58-10-11-135.revip7.asianet.co.th] has quit [Changing host] 12:31 -!- access [~access@user/access] has joined #openbsd 12:32 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:32 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Unwind? 22:15 -!- Maylay [~gren@108-198-59-230.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:16 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:16 < byteskeptical> either that or unbound 22:17 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 22:19 < vortexx> unwind is particularly suited to defeating captive portals such as hotels, airports, airliners etc 22:19 -!- wuseman [~wuseman@user/wuseman] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1] 22:19 -!- zimmer__ [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:20 < benrc6> That would be nice for a laptop 22:20 -!- fastidious [quark@user/meow/fastidious] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:21 -!- fastidious [quark@arrakis.netbros.com] has joined #openbsd 22:21 -!- fastidious [quark@arrakis.netbros.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:21 -!- fastidious [quark@user/meow/fastidious] has joined #openbsd 22:23 -!- zorz^ [~zorz@user/zorz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:24 < byteskeptical> vortexx: more like falling back to unencrypted methods. I wouldn't call that defeating anything 22:24 -!- zorz^ [~zorz@user/zorz] has joined #openbsd 22:24 < sonya> dnscrypt_proxy + unbound - as an option though.. 22:25 -!- carneous [~carneous@telefrag.claustrophobopolis.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:25 -!- carneous [~carneous@telefrag.claustrophobopolis.com] has joined #openbsd 22:25 < Bradipo> How does unwinde defeat captive portals? 22:25 < Bradipo> Simply by bypassing their DNS? 22:26 < byteskeptical> it doesn't just allows for the hijacking of your dns temporarily so you can connect 22:26 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:27 -!- DinoWilliam [~DinoWilli@138.204.24.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:27 < byteskeptical> the real question you should ask is how quickly if at all does it start using the encrypted method again 22:29 < byteskeptical> sonya: that's my preference but it also means having workarounds for the captive portal situations 22:29 -!- donofrio__ [~donofrio@actproxy.faa.gov] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 22:31 -!- aqsd [~aqsd@user/aqsd] has joined #openbsd 22:31 -!- Maylay [~gren@108-198-59-230.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:35 -!- zorz^ is now known as zorz 22:39 < sonya> byteskeptical: btw, i'm waiting for a long-time doh support in unwind.. that would encourage (me) to replace dnscrypt_proxy by unwind (just hope that setup'll be much more simple, than it is now) 22:40 -!- Maylay [~gren@108-198-59-230.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:44 -!- Maylay [~gren@108-198-59-230.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:44 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45 < Bradipo> So, when you use DoH, are you sending your DNS traffic to somewhere that you trust? 22:46 < Bradipo> Maybe I misunderstand your use of the term DoH in this context, but it seems to me that DoH (at least the browser variety) just gives your DNS to some other 3rd party for which I have no more trust than the local network operator. 22:48 < sonya> i just send it to a couple manually selected servers :) .. if we're about fat cats like google/opendns - sure they're the ones, who love my dns queries .. 22:54 -!- at_work [~at_work@user/at-work/x-5282331] has joined #openbsd 22:56 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:57 -!- DinoWilliam [~DinoWilli@177.92.53.63] has joined #openbsd 22:59 -!- Xenguy_ [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has joined #openbsd 23:02 -!- djames [~djames@user/djames/x-9001197] has quit [Quit: My Unrecognized Mac has gone to sleep. 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