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00:08 < vortexx> OpenBSD does seem to be particurlaly good at catching bad hw misperforming
00:09 < vortexx> and realtek is occasionaly really crap (not every model, just some of them nowadays)
00:09 < vortexx> rtl8139 was the ne2000 of the PCI generation
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03:19 < PyR3X> anyone have nextcloud behind relayd? Everything seems to work but there is an odd redirection issue trying to login and it just hangs I think returning a 303
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03:54 < rx> networks/plaintext.c:97:39: error: use of undeclared identifier 'IPPROTO_TCP'
03:54 < rx> which headers do I need for IPPROTO_TCP, or what are the valid third arguments to socket(3)?
03:55 < rx> socket(2), sorry
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04:12 < bradd> rx, maybe ##posix
04:13 < bradd> rx, looks like IPPROTO_TCP is in netinet/in.h
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06:06 < bob_x1> how to reset root password and other user passwords ? It seems I forgot them (was not using the computer for  a while)
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06:23 < ForeverNoob[m]> bob_x1: passwd?
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06:25 < rnkn> bob_x1: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#LostPW
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09:39 < rx> bradd: Thanks
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11:17 < bob_x1> thanks rnkn 
11:27 < bob_x1> seems Ctr-Alt-F1 does not work for me in multiuser login X screen
11:28 < bob_x1> and even after I login and X Session is operational
11:28 < rnkn> bob_x1: the first dot point says "Boot into single user mode"
11:28 < rnkn> you can't reset root password from a tty
11:28 < bob_x1> rnkn: I did that before. and successfully changed the passwords 
11:28 < rnkn> ah, cool
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14:26 < bob_x1> do I need to download new image (arm) of openbsd if I want to install it on raspberry pi?
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14:32 < oldlaptop> You need arm64 installation media to install OpenBSD on an arm64 machine, if that's what you're asking.
14:33 < oldlaptop> You also need to read the installation instructions, etc. (if your knowledge is such that you need to ask questions like that): https://www.openbsd.org/arm64.html
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14:36 < brynet> a new image, as opposed to what? .. an old image? what a baffling question.
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17:10 < Oddmonger> bob_x1: check it also, but i believe you need an UART USB cable to boot correctly the rπ
17:10 < Oddmonger> when installing, i mean
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17:22 < oldlaptop> this is discussed in the installation instructions
17:22 < Oddmonger> yes but people don't read that
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17:22 < oldlaptop> (I understand it's, strictly speaking, optional these days, but it sure seems like you'd want one anyway)
17:23 < oldlaptop> "People" need to "read that" if they want to have a good time installing OpenBSD
17:23 < Oddmonger> sometimes you miss it, when i tried to install openbsd on rockpro64, i missed it and had a hard time
17:24 < Oddmonger> anyway i didn't succeed either after reading, but that's another story
17:24 < oldlaptop> this is why #openbsd is helpful, someone might copypaste a link for you
17:24  * oldlaptop is a bit more interested in riscv64, given this price: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/SiFive/HF105-001?qs=Imq1NPwxi75JBw6ulD0quQ%3D%3D
17:25 < oldlaptop> when last I looked, riscv boards were IIRC a cool order of magnitude or so more
17:26 < oldlaptop> and that one's standard Mini-ITX with a PCIe slot and everything
17:26 < Oddmonger> may be we get an affordable riscV with the power of a sandy-bridge i3, soon
17:26 < Oddmonger> that would be enough for me at least
17:26 < oldlaptop> Looks like that's about what that is (?)
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17:36 < apotheon> It's interesting to see people capitalize some initialisms and not others, or capitalizing parts of initialisms that are supposed to be fully capitalized.
17:37 < apotheon> "interesting" because I'm not sure why it happens
17:37 < Oddmonger> camelCase
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17:38 < apotheon> Some people argue it's not camel case unless the first letter isn't capitalized, for some reason, so I guess I understand that one to some degree.
17:39 < apotheon> I prefer to call that dromedaryCase, though.
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17:40 < Oddmonger> tsss_sss
17:42 < apotheon> snake case onomatopoiea
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20:15 < PyR3X> why is the default sample for openbsd httpd using a 302 instead of a 301?
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20:23 < hackfoo> Because browsers tend to cache 301 responses and that may not be ideal if you're about to build a new site.
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20:56 < Bradipo> Is there a sysctl to disable the touchpad on my Dell laptop?
20:56 < phy1729> wsconsctl mouse.tp.disable=1   perhaps
20:57 < Bradipo> I don't have mouse.tp.
20:57 < Bradipo> Something I should look for in dmesg?
20:57 < Bradipo> touchpads have to be the worst enemy of any typist.
20:58 < Bradipo> I would settle for a method in X to disable it too. :-)
20:59 < Bradipo> maybe xinput can do this...
21:00 < Bradipo> I tried "xinput disable 7" and unfortunately that disables *all* mouse.
21:01 < Bradipo> interestingly enough, in wsconsctl, I do have a mouse and a mouse1
21:01 < byteskeptical> your laptop may also have a function key operation that disables the touchpad
21:01 < Bradipo> mouse.type=ps2 and mouse1.type=usb...
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21:01 < Bradipo> I assume the ps2 must be the mouse that is on the laptop.
21:02 < byteskeptical> could be easier than setting and unsetting a sysctl
21:02 < Bradipo> You're right, I could probably pry open the case and unplug the trackpad!
21:03 < Bradipo> Maybe if I use "config -e" to disable the psm
21:03 < Bradipo> Or rather, pms... ironic.
21:03 < Bradipo> I'm going to try that.
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21:12 < Bradipo> Ok, I typed "boot -c" at the boot prompt, then "disable pms*"
21:12 < Bradipo> And now the touchpad no longer works.
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21:13 < Bradipo> So I assume I can make this permanent with "config -e"
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21:14 < Bradipo> Looks like there is a bsd.re-config that might help for syspatch updates to the kernel.
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21:31 < Bradipo> Configuring the kernel may seem a bit heavy-handed, but until I find a more dynamic way to disable the trackpad, it will have to do.
21:32 < Bradipo> I never use it anyway, and it only gets in the way.
21:34 < ForeverNoob[m]> I only use it for web browsers and Bitwig Studio.
21:34 < Bradipo> Well, I still have a USB mouse.
21:34 < Bradipo> It's the trackpad that I cannot stand.
21:34 < ForeverNoob[m]> Ah :)
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21:35 < ForeverNoob[m]> I mostly have my X220T on my lap, and since I live in a pretty cramped space I don't even have a room for an external mouse lol
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22:00 < oldlaptop> Bradipo: you might find a firmware ("BIOS") option
22:01 < oldlaptop> thinkpads have IIRC tended to have one, though of course there you'd be deciding which of two pointing devices is active (and they'd both be pms(4))
22:01 < Bradipo> Yeah, I just put "disable pms" in /etc/bsd.re-config
22:02 < Bradipo> I think I tried looking through the BIOS on this Dell already.
22:02 < Bradipo> Seems I should be able to do this also with X, but so far I couldn't find anything.
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