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02:36 < jlmk> getting an "pthread_mutex_destroy on mutex with waiters!" error every time i quit newsboat. this seems relevant: https://github.com/newsboat/newsboat/issues/1739 . as far as i can see there, it should not be a problem since newsboat is exiting anyway, but i don't know. it's an older issue, can i ignore it?
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04:56 < farhan> Hi all! I have an old raspberry Pi 2 running openbsd 9.3 stable. I can't seem to install Golang on it
04:56 < farhan> I'm using pkgin install golang, but it doesn't seem to be there
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04:56 < farhan> sorry, closed the terminal by mistake
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04:59 < thrig> 9.3 won't be out for a while
04:59 < farhan> do I somehow have a newer version?
04:59 < farhan> ...I'm not thinking
04:59 < farhan> NetBSD, not OPenBSD. Embarrassed...
05:00 < byteskeptical> farhan: 9.3? how did you get a hold of that one? pkg_add go doesn't work?
05:07 < mischief> us poor slobs are stuck on 7.5 :(
05:09 < farhan> wait, what year is it??
05:09 < farhan> I set the dial too far forward!
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05:23 < byteskeptical> tell us something useful about the future
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10:40 < remiliascarlet> mischief: This is because 7.5 is the latest version right now.
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18:27 < kariosfox> hello there. thought about trying out openbsd in a vm. I attempted to install it in VirtualBox using the latest iso, but it seems to go wrong roughly at the point of installing the base packages. it either looses track of one of the drives or it simply stops copying the archives. Tried to do install it once again clean, redownloaded the iso, checked my HD for errors - no dice. Any idea how I should go about this?
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18:34 < thrig> did you lie to virtualbox and claim that openbsd is windows
18:35 < kariosfox> no
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18:54 < vortexx> you could try lying to virtualbox and telling it it's x64 linux?
18:55 < vortexx> haven't touched that virtualiser in a decade but it did used to work
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20:49 < echelon> what is up with the ntpd, it keeps complaining.. ntpd[30104]: recvmsg 198.97.190.53: No route to host
20:49 < echelon> 198.97.190.53 is a root-server, why is it trying to get time from root-servers?
20:50 < echelon> in fact, whatever DNS query i do returns a list of root-servers
20:50 < echelon> in the A records
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20:51 < echelon> https://paste.ee/r/PCI6N
20:52 < echelon> this is the content of my resolv.conf https://paste.ee/r/nmZ4D
20:52 < echelon> wait, 172.30.0.1 keeps re-adding itself
20:53 < echelon> 172.30.0.1 is causing it
20:54 < echelon> where are the dhcplease settings?
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20:57 < Lucas> echelon: /etc/dhcpleased.conf
20:57 < echelon> it doesn't exist, just create it?
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20:58 < Lucas> read dhcpleased.conf(5)
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20:59 < echelon> what does the "lookup file bind" do in /etc/resolv.conf?
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21:04 < uwharrie> see resolv.conf(5)
21:04 < echelon> oh, file refers to /etc/hosts
21:04 < echelon> nvm
21:04 < echelon> it just sets priority.. why is it called bind though
21:05 < echelon> maybe a more intuitive name could be used in place of bind.. like dns
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21:06 < uwharrie> bind is a dns implementation
21:06 < echelon> yeah, but not the only dns implementation
21:06 < RobbieAB> Berkeley Internet Name Daemon isn't intuitive?
21:07 < echelon> openbsd doesn't even have bind as part of the base system
21:08 < Lucas> but it had
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21:09 < Lucas> and introducing changes to libc bc the choice of a particular software to provide a service sounds like a pain in the ass 
21:09 < Lucas> the real solution would have been to not tie it to "bind" in the first place
21:09 < echelon> making it as generic as possible from the start would've prevented this
21:10 < echelon> yeah
21:10 < uwharrie> we're about half a century too late for that
21:10 < echelon> i think clarity is more important that retaining backwards compatibility
21:11 < Lucas> what is the unclear part?
21:11 < uwharrie> and changing it would lead to complaints of changing/breaking things for change's sake
21:12 < Lucas> I mean, the manpage is super clear
21:12 < RobbieAB> bind isn't obviously unbound.
21:12 < Lucas> nor is unwind
21:12 < Lucas> maybe it should introduce both unbound and unwind
21:12 < Lucas> both serving the same purpouse
21:12 < Lucas> trolling apart, the manpage is clear
21:13 < Lucas> the only "unclear" thing is the expectation that the option should have another kind of name
21:13 < RobbieAB> To me, at least, even without the manpage, my functional assumption would be "bind" could be any other software talking dns correctly
21:14 < RobbieAB> I'm not convinced replacing "bind" with "dns" will really reduce confusion here, personally.
21:14 < echelon> bind isn't even in reference to what dns server is running locally on the system, it's in reference to the nameserver parameters set in the resolv.conf itself
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