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00:29 < tux0r> oh, -current tries to be a fast desktop os now? ;) https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=172139969119269&w=2
00:34 < Lucas> power-efficient
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00:34 < Lucas> at least in modern hardware, I don't *see* difference between using or not VA
00:35 < Lucas> but the CPU usage is basically unaffected while using it
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00:39 < PyR3X> in pf I have a martians table.. for a specific rule I'd like to combine martians with egress something like 'pass in on vlan99 from blah to ! {<martians> egress}' but can't get the syntax right. I do not want to add egress to the martians table just add it for this specific rule
00:42 < echelon> redruM: that just tells me the contents of the package
00:43 < PyR3X> ahh the not binds to the actual table
00:44 < echelon> wtf, why does htop need python
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00:50 < redruM> echelon: Oops, try   pkg_info -Q go
00:51 < redruM> Should state in the Origin.
00:52 < echelon> it lists the following packages: debug-got, debug-gotd, debug-gotwebd, got, gotd, gotwebd and their version
00:58 < redruM> Hmm, you could try checking the logs in   /var/log/pkg_add.log
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01:38 < hackfoo> having an issue with tmux over ssh, session (launched via oh-my-zsh's tmux module) gets killed instantly at login. If I run tmux manually after login, everything is fine. How can I collect debug data from tmux to try to figure this out?
01:38 < thrig> what happens if you remove omz from the picture
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01:42 < hackfoo> Same issue. I removed omz completely and replaced it with an interactive/over-ssh check.
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01:50 < Vaelatern> This has happened a couple times on an OpenBSD VM I've got https://litter.catbox.moe/bvmxkb.png -- is it interesting enough that I should enable ddb? Also this is network infrastructure for me, is there a way to have the VM power off after a crash?
01:55 < dlg> is that in -current?
01:55 < Vaelatern> 7.5
01:56 < Vaelatern> to be clear many days passed between VM boot and the crash
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02:21 < byteskeptical> I would check sshd_config or the user specific .ssh/config. Behavior sounds like a connection limit being hit somewhere.
02:22 < byteskeptical> could be in pf.conf if the box is using max-src-conn and the like
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02:32 < rnkn> is there an easy way to limit the number of emails a :group can send with external smtp?
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02:44 < byteskeptical> rnkn: not easily, you could chgrp the binary to restrict access to users you want but I don't know a way to rate-limit by user or group
02:47 < rnkn> chatGPT gives me some junk about spamdb and spamlogd, but of course the flags it mentions are nonexistent
02:50 < phy1729> It's as if English /dev/urandom isn't a reliable source
02:50 < rnkn> I know right, even when I pipe it thru awk
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03:00 < oldlaptop> It's impressive it "knows" that spamd exists and is connected to email, I suppose
03:00 < oldlaptop> but alas, you also knew that already
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03:12 < rnkn> hmm what about max-src-conn-rate 25/86400 on smtp?
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03:13 < byteskeptical> I mean that would rate-limit connections but not necessarily emails as even if they cannot connect right away the queue would keep trying to a few days by default
03:14 < byteskeptical> s/to/for
03:18 < rnkn> eh well maybe just a lwo smtp limit max-mails in smtpd.conf
03:19 < rnkn> low
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04:11 < echelon> what are the security arguments for statically linked binaries?
04:12 < oldlaptop> they're not much of a security issue
04:13 < echelon> so why does openbsd prefer them
04:14 < oldlaptop> some exploit mitigations are a little harder with them, and it's obviously harder to patch a single library that's statically linked into a bunch of binaries, but that's about it
04:14 < oldlaptop> OpenBSD doesn't really "prefer" static linking.
04:14 < echelon> oh ok
04:14 < oldlaptop> /bin and /sbin are all statically linked because the dynamic libraries are in /usr, and they need to work before that's mounted
04:15 < echelon> ah
04:15 < oldlaptop> (/ without /usr is almost, but not entirely, unlike a linux initrd)
04:16 < echelon> well, assuming i'm in a read-only setup with resflash, and my application just links to libpthread, libc, lds.so.. there's really no advantage or disadvantage, right? since i wouldn't be able to update my libc anyway.
04:17 < echelon> if there was an update
04:17 < oldlaptop> Maybe you'd find a static binary easier to deal with in that kind of environment, I guess?
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04:17 < echelon> i would have to rebuild the image for any updates to take effect anyway
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04:45 < echelon> does pledge/unveil need to be absolutely called at the beginning of the program?
04:46 < echelon> what if i just load up the config file and then lock it down?
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04:54 < byteskeptical> it should be and why wait until the config is loaded?
04:59 < thrig> pledge can be done after setup, or in stages, etc
05:00 < echelon> so the kernel can skip ahead to the part of the application where pledge is called?
05:00 < echelon> eh probably not
05:03 < byteskeptical> thrig: it can be sure but the longer you wait to call it the greater the window available
05:03 < byteskeptical> echelon: no
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05:04 < byteskeptical> now what you can do it remove more and more pledges as they become unecessaary as your program progresses
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06:05 < benrc6> In the Sway Wayland window manager I cannot use an external keyboard
06:05 < benrc6> The keys are scrambled
06:06 < benrc6> 'libinput error: /dev/wskbd: Keyboard type: XT'
06:06 < benrc6> I saw someone had the same issue on Reddit but never figured it out.
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06:48 < byteskeptical> benrc6: have you stopped xenodm and ~/.config/sway/config?
06:48 < byteskeptical> s/and/and set/
06:50 < byteskeptical> can you run libinput debug-events <device> --enable-tap on it?
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06:56 < benrc6> xenodm is stopped
06:58 < byteskeptical> benrc6: assuming your on current, latestl snap?
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06:59 < benrc6> Yeah I just updated
06:59 < benrc6> For some reason I can't use libinput because the command is not found so I cannot list-devices or anything
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07:01 < byteskeptical> benrc6: you can install from ports libinput-openbsd-1.24.0p3
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07:07 < benrc6> That version of libinput is already installed
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09:43 < pkal> Is anyone here operating an activitypub server and can recommend a implementation?
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10:18 < oldlaptop> echelon: A big part of the idea is precisely that many programs will want to drop privileges afer initialization, yes.
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10:24 < oldlaptop> starting just in /bin, an example: https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/bin/dd/dd.c?rev=1.29&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
10:26 < oldlaptop> (cat keeps rpath the whole way through because it opens the files one by one, looks like, but dd can open everything it needs and *then* pledge itself)
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13:24 < sir-photch> pkal: I use gotosocial which is perfect for single-user instances. I don't know if there is a port available though
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13:34 < rx> pkal: I'd strongly recommend https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2 (which also uses pledge and unveil!)
13:37 < rx> it's not in the ports tree tho
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14:33 < remiliascarlet> I looked at GoToSocial before, but that thing has a code of conduct, so it's a waste of time.
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14:42 < rx> that has nothing to do with your ability/inability to use the software itself.
14:47 < miah> lol
14:47 < miah> i agree, a code of conduct being the thing that prevents you from using something says more about _you_ than the software itself
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17:05 < zwr> I just don't want my scripts to break because the git repo's master has been renamed to main like countless projects, to be banned from a project over saying "*hugs*" on IRC like FreeBSD, my hard drive to be nuked because I stepped into Russia like node-ipc, etc. This socjus bullshit has to end, just write the software.
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17:12 < fro> sounds like a you problem
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17:31 < remiliascarlet> rx | miah: If you actually read it, I would actually say otherwise: https://github.com/superseriousbusiness/gotosocial/blob/main/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
17:32 < rx> sounds fine to me, but alright.
17:33 < remiliascarlet> The only valid points here are numbers 2 and 5. The software literally prevents me from using it based on points 1 and 4 (because I know what left wing extremists truly mean by "toxic behavior", and it's not what you think it is).
17:34 < remiliascarlet> To them, anything that's not echoing the status quo verbatim, and being a full blown communist slave is considered "toxic behavior".
17:35 < rx> they cannot prevent you from using the software through the code of conduct. you might not be able to submit patches or discuss in their venues. if they don't allow people to use the software based on the opinions of those people, they can't use a free software license
17:36 < fro> also just use something else and move on
17:36 < fro> stop whining about it
17:36 < fro> when you're in charge of something you can run it as you see fit
17:36 < fro> otherwise, deal with it
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17:47 < lts> I wouldn't run a software with that CoC simply because I wouldn't trust the code to be sane
17:47 < fro> cool so don't run it
17:47 < fro> jesus christ
17:48 < fro> what does any of this have to do with openbsd?
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17:50 < socksinspace> we have a unfortunate tendency to attract edgelords, like so many other open source projects too
17:52 < Oddmonger> TIL edgelords
17:53 < Oddmonger> if you are again COC just ignore them, and never mention them. That's the worst thing you can do to their authors who make endless scandals/debates a living
17:53 < fro> nah gotta whine about them in an unrelated irc channel
17:54 < fro> that'll show them
17:54 < Oddmonger> the coc here is pretty clear « thy to stay on topic », sounds ok
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17:57 < remiliascarlet> fro: Got too much fiber stuck in your ass? I'm not the one whining, you're whining about somebody whining who's not whining.
17:58 < oldlaptop> remiliascarlet: Please stop.
18:04 < byteskeptical> irc, matrix, this person wants converts
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18:10 < fro> i don't understand the fibre comment
18:10 < fro> that would prevent constipation not cause it
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18:21 < ssm_> no they're talking about fiberoptic cables
18:22 < socksinspace> highspeed internet up the butthole
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18:25 < ssm_> fro: good thing edgelords can't write good patches
18:27 < ssm_> back on topic, I tried switching my anoncvs server but when running cvs -q up -PdA at the root I still get `fork failed\nResource temporarily unavailable`
18:27 < ssm_> on -current
18:29 < brynet> when did you last cvs up?
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18:30 < ssm_> less than a week ago
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18:34 < ssm_> oh now it's working I think, maybe I just got really unlucky and all the servers were just overloaded for some reason
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18:58 < ssm_> Is there a way to force cvs to overwrite conflicting files without moving them out of the way / removing them? tried -C on update but that doesn't work
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20:13 < bountyht> Checkout a new source I guess
20:13 < bountyht> Or use -C and then remove the conflicting backups
20:13 < bountyht> which is the more reasonable option
20:13 < bountyht> Guys, how in hell do you use a macrop in acme-client.conf for the challengedir argument?
20:14 < bountyht> macro*
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20:21 < bountyht> Because I am trying something like challengedir $my_challengedir and getting a syntax error
20:21 < bountyht> Meanwhile my_challengedir is defined as my_challengedir="/some/cool/path"
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20:23 < Bradipo> Does it support macros?
20:23 < Bradipo> I suppose it does.
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23:35 < damarusama> for reverse proxying in nginx, I seems to be running into a problem of adding multiple server name
23:35 < damarusama> I do a     include /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/*;
23:35 < damarusama> in my /etc/nginx.conf
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23:37 < damarusama> and add a couple of site.conf file
23:38 < damarusama> nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "gef.ink" on 0.0.0.0:80, ignored
23:38 < damarusama> so it seems like it doesn't like to have different domain on the same port
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23:43 < damarusama> I read in the /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
23:43 < damarusama> nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "gef.ink" on 0.0.0.0:80, ignored
23:44 < damarusama> sorry nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "gef.ink" on 0.0.0.0:80, ignored
23:44 < damarusama> nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "gef.ink" on 0.0.0.0:80, ignored
23:44 < damarusama> nginx: [warn] conflicting server name "www.gef.ink" on 0.0.0.0:80, ignored
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23:44 < damarusama> (copy paste problem here) I read another virtual host husing a mix of IP name and port pbase configuration
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23:49 < Tingo> damarusama use it https://bpa.st for showing your Configuration..
23:49 < damarusama> the /etc/nginx/nginx.conf ?
23:49 < setient> damarusama: also you should definately be able to host multiple sites on a single ip:port combo with nginx. its something it has been able to do for quite some time. Even with SSL sites.
23:49 < setient> damarusama: the sites-enabled config
23:50 < setient> really all of it prolly but yeah
23:50 < damarusama> yeah I have it on a debian machine, trying to move it over openbsd
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23:50 < setient> you should be able to just move the configs over
23:50 < setient> literally
23:50 < setient> its the same code
23:52 < damarusama> this is the nginx.conf without comments
23:52 < damarusama> https://bpa.st/7UQA
23:53 < Tingo> paste whole file nginx.conf...
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23:54 < damarusama> with all comment "
23:55 < damarusama> https://bpa.st/TQCQ
23:56 < damarusama> that's the domain that's creating a problem
23:56 < damarusama> https://bpa.st/AB7A
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23:58 < damarusama> ok that's working
23:58 < Tingo> how ?
23:59 < Tingo> changed into include /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/*.* ?
23:59 < damarusama> I've remove the second server block in my gef.ink.conf, which re-stated server_name
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