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02:12 < SiFuh> remiliascarlet: No, I was banned in early 2000's 
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04:44 < dwm> is openbsd on m2/m3 silicon usable? i know that booting is possible, and looks like USB works, sounds like built-in wifi doesn't work, but it's possible to get wifi via USB wifi dongle?
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04:51 < emmatebibyte> good morning. is there a way to uninstall sets after installation (other than removing the files manually)?
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04:58 < SiFuh> emmatebibyte: pkg_delete -a 
04:58 < SiFuh> Or do you mean the archives from the ISO?
04:58 < emmatebibyte> the latter
04:58 < emmatebibyte> the sets, not packages
05:00 < SiFuh> Not that I am aware of. However, manually removing would be possible. You'd get list of the contents from the set itself 
05:01 < emmatebibyte> alrighty
05:01 < emmatebibyte> thank you
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05:33 < renaud> dwm: I don't think it boots on m3.
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05:44 < dwm> renaud: ok. are you m1/m2 user? 
05:45 < renaud> no, I haven't tried on my m1/m2
05:46 < dwm> I'm thinking of dumping my disk to an SSD to preserve the original macOS image, and maybe trying it out.
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08:04 < rnkn> part of me is looking forward to this M1 Macbook Air going obsolete so I can put OpenBSD on it
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08:10 < mybalzitch> mine just shat itself because the touchid button broke
08:10 < mybalzitch> apple initially quoted $149 to fix, awesome. get a call 3 days later. they want $1500
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11:32 < quinq> hola
11:32 < quinq> I have a weird issue with pf rdr and ssh
11:33 < quinq> I used to have a working rule like: pass in quick on egress inet proto tcp from any to (egress) port = 2222 flags S/SA rdr-to 192.168.0.2 port 22
11:33 < quinq> Basically redirecting ssh connection to port 2222 originating from Internet, to internal machine 192.168.0.2
11:34 < sibiria> "port 2222" surely? no equality sign
11:34 < quinq> Not when I try this, I just get connected to ssh to the forwarning machine
11:34 < quinq> sibiria, that's pfctl -sr output
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11:34 < sibiria> i guess you have another quick rule that shows up in earlier order
11:34 < quinq> It's not a rule I often use, so I can't pinpoint exactly when it stopped working, but as I don't touch my pf.conf, I would suspect the transition from 7.4 to 7.5
11:35 < quinq> sibiria, though it gets evaluated (pfctl -v)
11:36 < quinq> But most likely yes, though again, I haven't touched it as far as I can remember
11:36 < quinq> Maybe some optimization changed?
11:36 < dlg> can you tcpdump on the internal interface and see the packets you expect?
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11:38 < quinq> I couldn't, I wasn't home and couldn't connect to that machin
11:38 < quinq> e
11:38 < quinq> I'll check the pf.conf rule ordering first, most likely the issue even if strangi
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11:38 < quinq> strange
11:42 < quinq> Can I filter by pf tag with tcpdump?
11:42 < quinq> (to isolate some traffic in the pflog)
11:42 < dlg> no, sorry
11:43 < dlg> you can say "tcpdump -i int0 host 192.168.0.2 and port 22" though
11:43 < quinq> Yeah but I wanted a more “catch-all” thing
11:43 < quinq> I could create a dedicated pflog interface too
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11:48 < quinq> wth
11:50 < quinq> Packets never reach the internal machine
11:51 < quinq> Maybe the rdr-to rule isn't applicable anymore?
11:53 < sibiria> it is. i'm using it just fine to forward traffic into my LAN
11:54 < quinq> Yeah, it was working “before”
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11:54 < sibiria> though i don't use interface groups
11:54 < sibiria> pass in quick on <if> proto tcp to (<if>) etc.
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11:55 < quinq> I could try that
11:55 < quinq> Although `ifconfig egress` only lists pppoe0
11:56 < quinq> It's 90% PEBKAC, but…
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12:04 < sibiria> look at what your pf rule changes did, quinq 
12:04 < sibiria> you screwed up libera
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12:06 < quinq> oh my ;_;
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12:07 < quinq> I was connected as root to the wrong machine, irc.libera.chat instead of my local gateway
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12:11 < quinq> I even replaced the pass quick rdr-to rule to a block drop quick, still on port 2222, and I get connected as ssh…
12:11 < quinq> I'm getting crazy
12:11 < quinq> I'm applying the pf.conf with pfctl -f /etc/pf.conf
12:12 < quinq> Full context disclamer, I'm connected from that same internal target network, to a remote machine, and trying to connect back in through 2222
12:13 < quinq> SSH wouldn't do some weird thing “detecting” somehow I come from some nearest host and trying to connect directly, that wouldn't makes sense, would it?
12:14 < quinq> oh.
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12:14 < quinq> Found the PEBKAC.
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12:14 < quinq> I'll still blame the UI
12:15 < quinq> Why do sftp and ssh use different options to set the target port connection? :(
12:17 < quinq> Now it works fine. As it always did.
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12:57 < sibiria> -p vs -P, a pet peeve of mine
12:58 < zelest> quinq, because cp and scp use the same :P
13:00 < inz> sibiria, pet peeve or Pet Peeve?
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13:08 < sibiria> inz: pet peeve
13:08 < quinq> zelest, I would have no problem having ssh specifying ports with -P, just this “consistency” would be nice ;p
13:09 < sibiria> inz: or maybe -pet -Peeve
13:09 < quinq> jaja
13:10 < sibiria> quinq: as an alternative both ssh and sftp support the same destination uri scheme
13:11 < sibiria> xxx://user@host:port
13:12 < quinq> Yeah, I sometimes use that, but I admit that this time I completely forgot about it
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13:12 < zelest> It should use -F for port
13:12 < zelest> just to annoy everyone involved. :D
13:12 < quinq> :)
13:13 < quinq> Or allow user@host:port, without an URI scheme :p
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19:00 < gnucode> odd question...when OpenBSD officially supports Wayland...do ya'll think some developers write a Wayland calm window manager?
19:15 < sibiria> WM in FVWM means Wayland Manager
19:15 < Bradipo> Is that a joke?
19:16 < Bradipo>      fvwm - F(?) Virtual Window Manager (version 2.xx) for X11
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19:47 < vortexx> Bradipo: https://www.fvwm.org/Wiki/FvwmHistory/ it started off as feeble, and as it improved it got other names
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19:54 < tux0r> unless someone ports CDE to wayland, i'm not interested
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20:18 < ssm_> the f in fvwm stands for fun!
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20:23 < sibiria> anyone running snapshots who has experienced the vaapi addition for video playback in browser or so?
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20:29 < ssm_> sibiria: I've been using it with mpv without issues, haven't tried in browser. My browser is qutebrowser though, and checking x11/qt6/qtmultimedia/Makefile, CONFIGURE_ARGS currently has -DQT_FEATURE_vaapi=OFF, so I'd need to rebuild
20:30 < sibiria> cool, thanks for the feedback
20:30 < ssm_> gonna try rebuild now; not sure how I'll verify vaapi is working or not though. May need to break out ktrace
20:32 < sibiria> or just monitor CPU usage during playback of one and the same video file (or on youtube)
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20:41 < topcat001> I can't recall if intel_gpu_top works
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22:22 < emmatebibyte> is there a way to use unveil(2) in the shell?
22:22 < emmatebibyte> it would be cool to restrict a shell script to a directory that way
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22:23 < thrig> not really, use a different language
22:23 < emmatebibyte> thats fair
22:23 < emmatebibyte> i was just holding out hope
22:24 < emmatebibyte> though i think it would be interesting to see a shell builtin unveil that sets the allowed directories in that environment
22:25 < emmatebibyte> is /bin/sh the almquist shell?
22:25 < bountyht> emmatebibyte: IMO the way to go would be to write a wrapper in C and then call it from the shell
22:25 < bountyht> The idea has been flung around a couple of times
22:29 < emmatebibyte> i thought about that but thats an inelegant solution if you ask me
22:30 < emmatebibyte> imagine at the top of a shell script, you just call `unveil directory'
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22:42 < thrig> shell scripts tend to fork a lot, and then that directory (may) be open again
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