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00:01 < cqst> uwharrie: well if you're using base and a few packages I dont see the harm in turning it off. python/erlang/java are not really things im using on some systems.
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00:47 < seninha> hi, has anyone used telegram-desktop video conferencing on openbsd? iirc it uses webrtc, and I have no idea how to enable it on qt applications
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03:05 < byteskeptical> seninha: enable webrtc?
03:06 < byteskeptical> o gone nvm
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03:36 < rnkn> someone recommended me monit for monitoring daemons, but it has an interactive web UI (i.e. control of root daemons via http) which idk seems kinda risky?
03:40 < mischief> what's your goal
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03:44 < rnkn> mischief: I raw out of swap and httpd got killed and offline for *gasp* 9 hours
03:45 < rnkn> *ran
03:46 < rnkn> I guess just a false sense of control?
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03:59 < byteskeptical> uptime-kuma just got ported by Aisha might be of interest to you: https://marc.info/?t=172256963500001&r=1&w=2
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04:03 < rnkn> that's probably too fancy for me
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04:03 < rnkn> I just rely on UptimeRobot for that kind of thing, I'm thinking more like "if httpd stops, restart it"
04:04 < rnkn> which I currently have with */5 * * * * rcctl check httpd || rcctl restart httpd
04:06 < cqst> if it crashed, it crashed for a reason
04:06 < cqst> don't you wanna know why before you restart it? 
04:08 < rnkn> cqst: you're right
04:09 < rnkn> would monit be better than just crond for that?
04:10 < rnkn> I'm just concerned about exposing root daemons to a http UI
04:10 < rnkn> maybe there's a knob to make it read-only
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06:06 < rnkn> there is
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07:00 < rkta> I just tried using 'ps -C' and it does something, but I can't find -C mentioned in the man page. 'ps -C' seems to do the same as a single ps, 'ps -C zsh' gives ps: /dev/mem: Permission denied. So it's not the same -C in some implementations. What does -C do?
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07:50 < mischief> rkta: if it's not documented, the answer is read the code and send a patch :)
07:52 < skdsk> how often are openbsd repositories updated?
07:53 < rkta> I did read the code in the meantime. Code says -C /* no-op */, but I did not bother to check where that /dev/mem error comes from.
07:53 < byteskeptical> skdsk: almost daily 
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07:54 < skdsk> no? freebsd does every 3 months, and I haven't had any updates for many month in openbsd...
08:02 < socksinspace> are you talking about package updates or systems updates?
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08:10 < skdsk> yes packages
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08:14 < IcePic> packages are mainly updated for people using snapshots or following -current
08:14 < IcePic> apart from security updates, which also get made for releases
08:15 < IcePic> nicely described in the FAQ/Docs: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#Patches
08:19 < lts> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/guide.html answers best for packages imo
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10:32 < sibiria> skdsk: it depends on what package and the maintainer. you can look in "packages-stable" on the CDNs/mirrors to see what's what
10:33 < sibiria> the maintainers for stuff like nginx, apache and firefox tend to be very diligent about it
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10:42 < skdsk> so there will be no package updates until 7.6?
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10:52 < sibiria> skdsk: i'm not sure how you reached that conclusions...
10:52 < sibiria> there are package updates all the time - just not for all of the ports
10:53 < sibiria> again: it depends on the maintainer of this or that port, how important they consider the update to be and how much time they have on their hands etc.
10:54 < sibiria> here you can see what has been updated and pushed out since the release of 7.5: https://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.5/packages-stable/
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12:35 < klsrqm> hi all!
12:38 < klsrqm> i've got a bit of a n00b issue - I was trying to set up virtual machines, and started messing about with networking stuff. i think i've mostly reverted my settings to what it was before, but i now seem to have an issue where on boot I don't get an IP from WiFi. Also sometimes the driver seems to crash, it stops being responsive, pings give a weird error, and I need to disable/enable the interface, run /etc/netstart, sometimes restart dhcpleased... not sure wha
12:38 < klsrqm> t I managed to mess up, can anyone give some troubleshooting pointers?
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12:40 < oldlaptop> I'd wonder what was in dmesg. If you want people to help here, we'd probably need to see dmesg, and exactly what this "weird error" is. (also output of ifconfig -a, possibly contents of any /etc/hostname.* files)
12:41 < oldlaptop> the more you can remember and describe about what you did while "messing about with networking stuff" the better, also
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12:44 < quinq> Also maybe try without the WiFi is possible to see if you still have DHCP issues to solve first, then go on solving wireless 
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13:31  * access Hello everyone~
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13:38 < klsrqm> hi, sorry about the disconnect earlier and thanks for the replies
13:38 < klsrqm> let me upload dmesg
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13:53 < klsrqm> https://paste.c-net.org/AromaTraction
13:53 < klsrqm> ^^^ That's the dmesg output 
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14:02 < klsrqm> i think it may have been a dhcpd.conf issue. i'll disable it and reboot and see what's wat
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14:04 < klsrqm> yip. that was it.
14:07 < quinq> good :)
14:08 < klsrqm> i think i got mixed up with adding network connectivity to the virtual machine i was creating
14:08 < klsrqm> i was trying to create a vlan for it but... i suck at networking!
14:09 < klsrqm> what's the way to enable internet access to a vm if I only have a wifi connection? I would have preferred to bridge but I think bridging is an issue with wifi?
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14:52 < oldlaptop> klsrqm: These Very IRC Packets aren't traversing the actual wi-fi interface, but they are traversing a gateway/firewall that has a ral0 in a bridge (veb(4)) and works fine
14:53 < oldlaptop> (that's not for VMs, just to connect it to the other LAN machines on ethernet interfaces)
14:54 < oldlaptop> (I guess it's also a loose definition of "just fine", but that's not an issue with bridging. Can't recommend running an openbsd AP, at least not with any wi-fi interface I've tried)
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16:15 < tercaL> Greetings. Got in my /var/log/messages; repeated sequence of: "12:00:01 mail syslogd[72677]: restart - 14:00:01 mail syslogd[72677]: restart - 16:00:01 mail syslogd[72677]: restart" lines, each 2 hours. Is this normal?
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18:03  * access It's time to sleep. See you tomorrow. Everyone
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