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00:47 < polarian> back 7 days later and the same issue has happened again, I checked netstat no mass spam of ethemeral ports, in fact it was pretty clean (other than taking 5 minutes to print all the info) exactly the same logs as last week (https://dpaste.org/b895O) I did notice that the time was desynced, it appeared to be due to unbound breaking and therefore ntpd couldn't sync time any longer but for the time
00:47 < polarian> to change by ~30 mins was a little concerning that something else might be going on. I manually reset the time, but unbound still returning servfail with the same log of send raising EACCES and I am clueless on why this happens almost exactly every 7 days
00:47 < polarian> rebooting yet again fixed the issue immediately
00:52 < polarian> any ideas?
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07:31 < betabug> polarian: time zone issue? if ntp thinks it has to adjust a 1h (or more) difference in time it can produce something like that
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08:30 < IcePic> betabug: I think ntp doesn't really use TZ when talking to remotes, that is something for the local system to add/subtract at display time
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10:08 < sir-photch> Is it possible to do subpath proxying with relayd/httpd, similar to nginx "location /asdf { proxy_pass http://10.15.15.1/; }" ?
10:12 < byteskeptical> sir-photch: short answer is yes though the syntax is slightly different depending how you are wanting to reverse proxy your service
10:13 < lts> Something like https://serverfault.com/questions/1025117/openbsd-relayd-forward-to-web-server-based-on-http-request-path/1025171#1025171
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11:35 < sir-photch> Super cool, thanks. I will have a look 🙏🏼
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12:58 < polarian> Hello, I lost my backlog due to bouncer problems... could someone give me the logs between now and the last message I said (in case someone responded to my problem)
12:59 < sibiria> the web has a few public logs of this channel
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13:02 < piroko> polarian: https://gist.github.com/neutralinsomniac/9aa8d9bd891012b309e8886178fc5f42
13:04 < polarian> piroko: thanks :)
13:05 < sibiria> polarian: is your IP address changing on that interface?
13:05 < polarian> betabug: iirc UTC is used for all requests which means if you got valid system time the timezone should not matter. It would suck if things were timezone specific after all (ie: an American sending a request to a European server and getting a failure because their time is different)
13:05 < sibiria> unbound has a few tools for managing those scenarios
13:05 < polarian> sibiria: no
13:05 < sibiria> same goes for pf
13:05 < polarian> static IP...
13:06 < polarian> no NAT
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13:06 < polarian> well actually yes NAT but also IPv6...
13:06 < sibiria> right off the bat it does look like you're seeing a PF problem. though it might be unbound goofing up somehow
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13:07 < polarian> the time issue didn't appear in the previous times, thats new to this specific time, after about 1 week (always aways when uptime hits about 6 days and 12 hours) unbound stops working... it hits 100% cpu (possibly blocking itself) and then sits like that spamming syslogd with send() permission failures and any client which attempts to use the dns server gets an instant SERVFAIL, and in the logs it
13:07 < polarian> appears unbound fails to connect to the root DNS servers...
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13:09 < polarian> I wrote down notes from 10 days ago :P p ardis suggested ephemeral port exhaustion, however netstat shows nothing for this 
13:09 < sibiria> you can update trust anchor and such outside unbound, and restart it at the same time
13:09 < sibiria> i do that
13:10 < polarian> I doubt the trust anchor is the issue... well maybe it is if it refreshes weekly... the only way to fix unbound right now is to reboot
13:10 < sibiria> reboot? restarting unbound doesn't solve it?
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13:12 < polarian> sibiria: nope, I tried wiping the cache too thinking of cache pollution or something... nothing.
13:12 < sibiria> in essence i do "unbound-anchor -a /var/unbound/db/root.key -r /var/unbound/db/root.hints" nightly, and restart unbound in the same go
13:12 < sibiria> ok, then your problem certainly isn't unbound
13:13 < polarian> hmm p ardis did suggest pf state table is filled... checking the state table right now there is a lot in it... this could be likely... but I am unsure how to know when it is "full"
13:13 < sibiria> EPERM on network traffic certainly is a response from the kernel. do you run any dynamic tables that you add entries to regularly?
13:13 < polarian> sibiria: how often do you need to refresh the root key?
13:13 < Paxianer> is the openbsd 7.5 amd64 iso known to work with the current version of virtualbox?
13:14 < sibiria> i honestly don't know. i only do it nightly because i don't know how often it's renewed and i don't want to wait for weeks between each update
13:14 < sibiria> Paxianer: yes but openbsd + virtualbox has a complicated relationship so you will need to configure the VM a certain wya
13:15 < polarian> also invalid DNSSEC would not prevent unbound connecting to the dns server (its not like tls, it is validated independently of the connection)
13:15 < Paxianer> i cant install, because the moment when it tries to install bsd.package from the iso it crashes hard
13:15 < sibiria> polarian: "pfctl -s info" will show you statistics about the state table. do you appen to have a billion entries there?
13:16 < polarian> sibiria: nope... I really should though I currently let stuff spam me... just never had the chance to set up anything fancy
13:16 < polarian> I haven't finished my IPv6 static martians table, been too busy 
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13:17 < polarian> sibiria: not right now, I rebooted last night and will need to reboot to load syspatches only 373 entries... I will keep note of this until the issue pops up again 
13:18 < polarian> I have also just realised the info command is simple just never really had a use for it... you dont know what you dont use :P
13:19 < polarian> info as the state info :P
13:19 < sibiria> you can deny your own network if this fills up to the brim. it really takes a lot, though it is possible to achieve
13:19 < sibiria> somewhat easier to happen with some added complexity to the ruleset as a whole
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13:21 < sibiria> Paxianer: in your vm config, switch chipset to ich9, no tpm, enable i/o apic, disable efi and secure boot
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13:22 < Paxianer> nice!
13:22 < sibiria> enable pae/nx and set your paravirtualization thingy to, like, kvm or hyper-v if you're on windows
13:22 < sibiria> storage... remove IDE controllers and use only AHCI ones
13:22 < sibiria> that should solve it
13:23 < sibiria> the chipset part, using piix3 which is the default, is what historically was the one showstopper for openbsd on virtualbox
13:26 < Paxianer> sibiria: you saved my cyberlife for now 
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17:02 < seninha> Hi. On opensmtp in my personal computer (not a server), I want to deliver local mails to different maildir mail boxes based on their source (daily(8), cron mails, sfeed_mbox|mail, other daemons). Can I configure it with filters on a user-based configuration file, rather than in /etc/mail/smtpd.conf?
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17:03 < seninha> nvm, just found about forward(5)
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17:24 < thrig> generally you need a fancier mail delivery agent, or a .forward program, or send the mail to IMAP and filter it there somehow
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17:35 < seninha> thrig, yeah, i read forward(5) and realized it; i think i'm gonna install fdm and make my ~/.forward pipe to it
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17:37 < seninha> Or just edit /etc/smtpd.conf with my user's filters
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17:47 < echelon> is there a way to do email anonymization with smtp like craigslist does it?
17:47 < echelon> *opensmtpd
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17:54 < gnarledhorn> Hello friends. I'm curious to know what forum software has been successfully deployed by the group here. The ideal candidate has minimal dependencies and uses pledge and unveil, has a dedicated user and is available in ports
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17:55 < gnarledhorn> I know fossil is popular and provides forums. My use case is for non-technical users to post and connect with one another
17:58 < gnarledhorn> circle dot so is overwhelming the usefulness of search engines with their advertising for this type of software
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18:25 < naught> Is there something similar to MSG_PEEK when using tls_read? I can emulate the behaviour myself but just checking.
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18:35 < sibiria> gnarledhorn: pretty much all real forum software runs off of web server and php/ruby/perl. i think you'll find a good solution looking in that end first
18:35 < sibiria> fossil is not really a forum. it just has such functionality as a side dish
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18:35 < sibiria> php/ruby/perl/python*
18:37 < echelon> is there a way to make opensmtpd handle email anonymization like craigslist, ie, sender emails an auto-generated email address, then receiver gets a unique email address to reply to?
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18:37 < echelon> neither party gets to see the other's actual email address
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19:54 < gnarledhorn> Thank you sibiria - a survey of the available solutions has me looking at FlaskBB. I'll report back when/if I get it functionally deployed
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19:57 < Bradipo> gnarledhorn: Fossil certainly could work as a "forum".
19:58 < Bradipo> It's just a built-in forum tool that comes with Fossil, so if you're already using Fossil for code development, or document management for that matter, it could work.
19:59 < sibiria> in the past i used something compact called Florum or so
19:59 < sibiria> far smaller and far less complex than e.g. PHPBB or vBulletin
19:59 < sibiria> Flarum was the name
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20:02 < Bradipo> The nice thing about Fossil is that it can be run as a standalone server.  Very minimal configuration and setup required.  It can also be run behind relayd I believe.
20:02 < Bradipo> PHP may be a huge surface to get going.
20:03 < Bradipo> Maybe Florum and FlaskBB are minimal as well?
20:04 < sir-photch> help
20:04 < sir-photch> how do I quit cwm(1) x(
20:04 < Bradipo> Tough habit to break eh?
20:04 < sir-photch> CMS-q doesnt do it
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20:10 < pardis> if you haven't customised the key bindings, then it is indeed CMS-q
20:11 < pardis> if cwm is stuck in a state where it is not responding to key bindings (that has happened to me a few times), then switch to a text console and 'pkill cwm'
20:11 < sir-photch> logged in as root through the xenodm login screen which put me in fvvm, giving me a terminal
20:11 < sir-photch> how do I switch to a text console? whats the keybinding for that?
20:12 < pardis> Ctrl+Alt+F{1,2,3,4,6}
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20:12 < pardis> F5 is for switching back to X
20:12 < sir-photch> all at the same time?
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20:12 < sir-photch> or either one of them
20:12 < pardis> no, there are 5 different text consoles to choose from
20:12 < sir-photch> ah
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20:22 < sibiria> Bradipo: PHP is very lean for what it provides imo
20:22 < sibiria> openbsd's port is some... 25-30 mb installed, i think
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20:37 < Bradipo> sir-photch: Is your ultimate goal to run X or just use a text console?
20:37 < Bradipo> Because you can just disable xenodm if you don't want X.  That would then put on on a text console 100% of the time.
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23:20 < polarian> alright without causing a bonfire (better here than on the mailing list, as I will be slaughtered), FreeBSD is potentially adopting rust for security reasons (https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/2024-freebsd-developer-summit-integration-with-rust.93968/), OpenBSD has always stood against this... im curious how many OpenBSD users still agree :)
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23:20 < polarian> so thoughts on it?
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23:30 < pardis> does it support every architecture OpenBSD runs on yet?
23:32 < fro> no point in bringing this up here either
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23:32 < fro> has nothing to do with openbsd
23:32 < fro> also when has freebsd ever made a decision based on better security?
23:33 < polarian> fro: true :)
23:34 < sibiria> when they introduced PF next to ipfw and ipfilter about 20 years ago or something, and when they made that announcement 2 months ago
23:34 < polarian> also it has something to do with OpenBSD... OpenBSD is an operating system... Linux has adopted rust (kernel modules and soon the core kernel) FreeBSD might... that leaves NetBSD and OpenBSD left 
23:34 < gnucode> polarian: The Hurd is ok with using Rust, but it has not done so yet.
23:35 < polarian> isn't it a little ironic to have a a gnu nickname in OpenBSD (renown for being anti-gnu)
23:35 < gnucode> polarian: I'm a GNU fan and OpenBSD fan.  paradoxical eh?
23:35 < polarian> pardis: NetBSD's reason I for not adopting rust I think is the portability issue...
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23:36 < polarian> gnucode: indeed! OpenBSD (and I believe all the others) are trying to purge GNU due to GPL, and you use both :)
23:36 < gnucode> Actually the only reason that I can currently do my online banking is thanks for OpenBSD.  My Guix laptop crapped out on me a few days ago.  I think it's a hardware problem...time will tell.
23:36 < polarian> GNU doesn't like users having the freedom to licence under a non-GPL licence 
23:37 < polarian> anyways its off-point... I am curious whether OpenBSD will adopt rust too or reject it like it did years ago
23:38 < gnucode> polarian: yeah, I personally prefer the GPL license.  I feel like OpenBSD would have to abandon some older architecturesif they want to start using rust.
23:38 < gnucode> Weirdly enough...have you heard about prescheme  ?
23:38 < Bradipo> I don't know what benefit it would provide to OpenBSD... just another thing to worry about?
23:39 < polarian> no... but its not a shocker a gnu supporter mentioning Scheme or any LISP dialect to be honest
23:39 < gnucode> https://prescheme.org/   It compiles down to C.  but lets people use scheme.
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23:39 < polarian> Bradipo: well if you listen to the rustaceans (what a stupid name btw), you cant have a secure system if its written in C
23:39 < Bradipo> Would rusticans be better?
23:39 < gnucode> Bradipo: haha.  
23:40 < fro> you can't have a secure system regardless of that
23:40 < polarian> Bradipo: I don't get it sorry...
23:40 < polarian> fro: well I believe the same thing... but there is not a single security circle im in now which isn't shilling rust for adoption 
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23:40 < polarian> even the US government has demanded adoption of memory safe languages (I think its NIST pushing it... I forgot)
23:41 < Bradipo> polarian: Perhaps a little romantic language background is required... https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rusticanus#Latin
23:41 < fro> well let us know when there's an operating system completely made in rust that someone is using for, well, anything
23:42 < polarian> fro: redox
23:42 < fro> oh? what's the being used for and by whom?
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23:45 < polarian> fro: proof of concept afaik but still something exists :P
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23:45 < fro> but that isn't what i asked about
23:45 < polarian> I dont know of any uses for it... its aimed at desktop use (and can do basic web browsing etc)
23:45 < polarian> I dont know much more than a popos developer founded it
23:46 < fro> according to this it uses a web browser that's written in C
23:46 < fro> imagine that
23:48 < fro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redox_(operating_system)
23:48 < fro> unless they've named their browser netsurf and the link is wrong
23:48 < Bradipo> But the OS is in Rust.
23:48 < polarian> ^
23:49 < polarian> its getting pretty fucking annoying to be honest... its like the xorg vs wayland bs but 100x worse
23:49 < polarian> You go to pick a solution and then you find rust duplicates of stuff...
23:49 < Bradipo> "Custom C library written in Rust (relibc)"
23:49 < Bradipo> I wonder what that is...
23:50 < polarian> take i3wm for example, its been rewritten in rust... see leftwm...
23:50 < Bradipo> A C library written in Rust?  And what is Rust written in?  C?
23:50 < polarian> rust is written in rust
23:50 < polarian> it bootstraps itself
23:50 < polarian> I believe the base compiler was written in ocaml 
23:51 < polarian> yes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(programming_language))
23:51 < fro> every conversation about rust is pointless
23:51 < polarian> I have been eyeballing the mailing list, just lurking but I have seen a few people discuss rust development on OpenBSD... so there is OpenBSD users writing rust code...
23:51 < polarian> so is it pointless?
23:52 < fro> yes
23:52 < polarian> as Linus put it... the younger generation is almost entirely using rust... and the older linux devs are reaching retirement, therefore he offically supported the adoption of rust, this was a few months back at a Linux event 
23:52 < fro> you can install rust and you can run things made in rust already
23:52 < polarian> fro: yes... but how long until developers start writing openbsd userspace tools in rust...
23:53 < fro> you'd have to ask them
23:53 < fro> this isn't really the place for that
23:53 < polarian> I am talking about third party tools
23:53 < Bradipo> Thereupon Linus intalled OpenBSD and abandoned Linux and lived happily ever after?
23:53 < fro> why would openbsd devs re-writre 3rd party tools in rust?
23:53 < polarian> no I mean third party developers
23:53 < fro> i'm not sure you're making sense
23:53 < fro> oh
23:53 < fro> you can write things in rust now
23:53 < polarian> userspace tools within the port tree
23:53 < polarian> indeed!
23:53 < fro> what's stoping you?
23:53 < polarian> nothing...
23:54 < fro> stopping*
23:54 < polarian> thats the point 
23:54 < pardis> your point is that you are capable of writing code?
23:54 < fro> i don't see a point here
23:54 < polarian> so when people grow reliant on rust ports... how long until developers start saying "hey why isn't the userspace written in rust"), then once that... how long until people question the kernel becoming rust too?
23:54 < polarian> like an infection, it grows :P
23:54 < pardis> probably as long as it takes for rust to support every architecture OpenBSD runs on
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23:55 < fro> i really don't see any reason to speculate
23:55 < fro> i also don't care
23:55 < polarian> pardis: thankfully rust hard depends on LLVM which is a major limiting factor :P
23:55 < polarian> LLVM is like a sandbox to prevent the rust infection onto smaller arch's
23:57 < pardis> it is also possible to write ports in python, go, haskell or ruby
23:57 < pardis> are they about to be imported into base too?
23:57 < fro> what about java
23:57 < pardis> good point
23:57 < pardis> I expect 7.6 will be fully rewritten in java
23:58 < fro> java is memory safe
23:58 < tux0r> -script
23:58 < fro> change the name to jOpenBSD
23:58 < polarian> pardis: it is not possible to write low level utilities in those languages... even go which is AOT compiled still has a GC which makes it unviable for a kernel 
23:59 < polarian> pardis: how would a kernel boot without the jvm? then you would need C code to bootstrap the java system...
23:59 < fro> i'm pretty sure there was an operating system written in java
23:59 < tux0r> rewrite it in emacs lisp. https://github.com/a-schaefers/systemE
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