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05:30 < systemdsucks> vortexx: still no boot with today's snapshot
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07:36 < remiliascarlet> systemdsucks: For some reason, in your name the "s" between the "d" and "u" sometimes fades while reading, making it read like "system ducks".
07:37 < lts> A duck job is running
07:37 < rnkn> I like system ducks
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08:16 < klsrqm> vortexx: it's a single boot system. just tested and if I boot up holding down Option to get into the Mac boot disk selection menu, and select "EFI Boot" (the only option) it goes to the decryption prompt immediately
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10:10 < avemestr> sibiria: Have you tried the Odroid H4 models?
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10:12 < avemestr> https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=index&fts=odroid a lot of "not configured" on the H4 but uncertain what effects (if any) that has.
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10:13 < avemestr> But e.g. broken acpitz means temperature sensors are not available, if I'm not mistaken.
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10:15 < sibiria> avemestr: no, i only have experience with the H3
10:17 < sibiria> i think the H4 has a relatively new intel architecture, from 2023
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10:19 < avemestr> Yep.
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10:31 < sibiria> i would've loved seeing a similar selection without intel cpu/network. the low-power ryzens are attractive
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10:55 < avemestr> Ah, the H3 had Realtek onboard and the H4 has Intel 226.
10:56 < avemestr> It's also amuzing, that the N97 hardly "beats" the N6005. The N97 has a TDP of 12W - 2W more than N6005. Also slightly better performance, but seems like less performance per watt.
10:58 < avemestr> https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4565vs5337/Intel-Pentium-Silver-N6005-vs-Intel-N97
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14:14 < vortexx> systemdsucks: that's very frustrating I'm sorry
14:15 < vortexx> klsrqm: then it's a refind issue, I don't know much about OpenBSD on x64 Macbooks, maybe you don't need refind at all?
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14:18 < systemdsucks> vortexx: np
14:18 < systemdsucks> also you don't need refind on a macbook atm mine sits with only openbsd
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14:43 < vortexx> yeah it'd be pretty surprising that you'd need a thirdparty bootloader to just run OpenBSD on any hw. Refind is often suggested for multiboot setups that novices might want to try (I use grub2 for that)
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14:51 < remiliascarlet> Loops like OpenBSD 7.6 is out now.
14:51 < remiliascarlet> s/Loops/Looks
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14:52 < avemestr> Not really.
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14:52 < remiliascarlet> Oops, looking at snapshots. My bad.
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15:09 < Foxy_> remiliascarlet: OpenBSD 7.6 release planned for end of October 2024
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15:10 < remiliascarlet> Yes, which is why I found that to be odd.
15:10 < remiliascarlet> But then I looked at the URL, and saw "snapshot".
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15:15 < anon11> Hi
15:18 < anon11> I have just added some wifi chip that uses athn0 driver interface name, upgraded APU6 router to OpenBSD 7.5, made sure fw_update ran, added the interface to dhcpd, pf, and unbound config. I made hostname.athn0 and it shows my wifi but trying to connect makes it accept password, connect, no internet for like, 0.76 seconds and then it disconnects and loops
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15:19 < anon11> It is set to 11n if I am not mistaken and the chip supports it unless I am mistaken. 
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15:20 < anon11> media autoselect mode 11n mediaopt hostap chan 1
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15:21 < sibiria> athn(4) and 11n mode in general, is poorly supported
15:21 < anon11> Ah, I see. Then I suppose g is the second best?
15:22 < sibiria> athn(4) in its entirety is in a poor state. a lot of instability. but do give 11g a try
15:22 < highplainsdruid> i suggest using a dedicated piece of hardware for the access point that runs linux
15:24 < sibiria> it's been a few years since i last ran wifi in hostap mode on openbsd, but at that point the only stable driver was ral(4). everything else had one or the other problem
15:25 < vortexx> remiliascarlet: https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh <-- this page is the one where you'll find whever the next release is out or not
15:25 < vortexx> s/whever/whether
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15:27 < sibiria> and i agree with highplainsdruid. get you a little "range extender" that openwrt has support for, and use that as wifi bridge into your lan. will work out a lot better
15:27 < remiliascarlet> sibiria: as I said, "Yes, which is why I found that to be odd. But then I looked at the URL, and saw "snapshot".".
15:28 < sibiria> ^ for avemestr 
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15:32 < highplainsdruid> yes i always make sure a device is supported by openwrt before purchase
15:35 < anon11> Yea it said it was supported but I guess using it for wifi is not same as for access point
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15:35 < sibiria> slightly different
15:36 < setient> also, you could try doing a few more things. like having it be an open network
15:36 < setient> fewest possible configurations
15:36 < setient> static ip's etc
15:36 < sibiria> but athn(4) is a curious case. it's not entirely clear why so many chipsets are listed as supported. the driver can't even use half of them
15:36 < sibiria> or even a quarter...
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15:37 < anon11> WLE200NX
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15:40 < setient> anon11: you also inspired me to attempt to setup my sunfire v100 as an AP, using a crappy usb 1.1 wifi card for all my IoT devices
15:40 < setient> its going to be terrible and fun
15:41 < sibiria> anon11: try specify the config a bit differently. there are some caveats that aren't entirely well-documented
15:42 < anon11> Yea, I am looking into it. Might even be the slot I chose in the router that is issue
15:42 < anon11> All images I see on the page I bought it from connects it to the other mini-PCIE slot
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15:43 < sibiria> i *think* "mode" is the option that has to be on the same line as "media", the rest are separate statements
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15:43 < sibiria> back when i ran ral(4) in hostap mode, my hostname.if looked like this: https://dpaste.org/MeN1U/raw
15:44 < sibiria> and added to that the usual wpa-related parameters
15:48 < anon11> Thanks sibiria.
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15:53 < anon11> Aw well, I done a lot of hardware stuff so time to take a break. Thanks for the help and the pointers. I tried without any password, same issue persists. 
15:55 < anon11> Oh, I did one thing it works now
15:55 < anon11> "One last test" and this time it ended up as the last thing instead of 20th last test
15:55 < anon11> chan 2 instead of one
15:55 < anon11> No wat
15:56 < anon11> Ok it worked for 2 minutes then went back on other behaviour
15:57 < sibiria> anon11: what do you get from:  ifconfig athn0 media?
15:57 < sibiria> (use a pastebin)
15:57 < sibiria> media without a question mark at the end
15:58 < anon11> Short break, need to move a car. And clean some. 
15:58 < anon11> 15 min or so
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16:03 < sibiria> actually, regardless of the media types it supports, this should give you a working AP:  https://dpaste.org/7aO03/raw
16:03 < sibiria> that's presuming athn(4) actually works for your chipset, and i kinda doubt it does
16:04 < sibiria> in the past openbsd displayed various problems when messing around with wifi interface settings, that didn't always "clear out" when running netstart on the interface
16:05 < sibiria> you may need to delete/destroy the interface with ifconfig before restarting it with "sh /etc/netstart athn0"
16:05 < sibiria> down it, delete/destroy it, then netstart it
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16:05 < vortexx> I've got a deployed box at a relative's home that's an APU2C with athn0, that wifi AP has never worked properly and losing connection after 2 mins sounds just like it
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16:06 < sibiria> i had the exact same experience with AR9281, AR9287 and AR5008 under athn(4)
16:06 < vortexx> athn0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Atheros AR928X" rev 0x01: apic 5 int 0
16:06 < sibiria> i've never tried AR9280, though
16:06 < sibiria> but evidently athn(4) is total shit
16:07 < vortexx> athn0: AR9280 rev 2 (2T2R), ROM rev 22
16:07 < vortexx> yeah they're a waste of time on OpenBSD
16:07 < vortexx> (this is a chip provided by PC Engines)
16:08 < sibiria> ral(4) is super stable. i ran it for over 10 years. i only switched because i got tired of the driver being stuck with 11g
16:08 < vortexx> I rarely got anything better than 1Mbps in 11n with athn, before it stopped transmitting
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16:09 < vortexx> not even good enough to run an ssh connection for 10 mins
16:09 < sibiria> yep. exactly same crap i fought with the three atheros chipsets i tried
16:09 < sibiria> and that was 6-7 years ago
16:11 < vortexx> yeah this was 5-10 years ago
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16:22 < anon11> Oh, even those chips have isue. Maybe athn shouldn't be used as example on openBSD official site if it is so crap 
16:22 < anon11> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/example1.html
16:23 < anon11> I was under the impression athn wasn't crap dueto it being on most examples T-T
16:25 < vortexx> it may work fine in other OSes, but OpenBSD's 802.11 stack lags considerably through lack of manpower and older chips with issues never seem to get fixed as ssperling@ moves onto whateve is the chip du jour for six months
16:25 < tommyrot> my 9280 works flawlessly in AP mode on linux so it's not the chip
16:25 < anon11> Omg
16:26 < anon11> I was so used to using it as default router, due to changed sircumstances it was now connected as secondary, but the internet it gets is on same IP I set for the wifi
16:26 < anon11> So, it will most likely not work. 
16:27 < anon11> Realised no internet when I tried to curl to clbin
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16:30 < sibiria> best just run separate device with openwrt
16:30 < sibiria> will give you 11ac and wpa3 etc. as bonus
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16:34 < anon11> Ok after fixing IP's and rebooting it seems that wifi works. 
16:34 < anon11> No password
16:35 < anon11> Now I just need to learn how to destroy the interface since I never had the need to, so never really learned it. 
16:35 < anon11> In case it still has issues with some settings persisting despite sh /etc/netstart
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16:36 < anon11> Works with password as well
16:37 < vortexx> anon11: try running iperf3 on it
16:37 < anon11> I'll come back with how stable it is. Hopefully there has been.. uh... significant improvement since you tried it
16:37 < anon11> vortexx: ??? On router or on wifi client?
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16:38 < anon11> no man page for it. 
16:39 < vortexx> anon11: it's a package. It tests connection speed between two devices, run it as server on the hostap and client on the client
16:39 < vortexx> and vice-versa, not that that should change much
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16:39 < anon11> Oh, ok ok, interesting. Thanks for tip
16:39 < vortexx> iperf3 -s yourserverip and iperf3 -c yourclientip
16:40 < vortexx> you're welcome
16:42 < sibiria> anon11: ifconfig athn0 down; ifconfig athn0 destroy; sh /etc/netstart athn0
16:42 < anon11> Oh, that easy 
16:43 < anon11> thanks
16:43 < sibiria> generally you don't need to jump through hoops like that. it's just something i ran into as a requirement when messing with configs of dodgy wifi drivers
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16:44 < sibiria> the netstart script itself doesn't "zap" the interface before starting it and applying the config
16:45 < anon11> vortexx: Server: iperf3 -s, client iperf3 -c {serverIP}
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16:46 < anon11> 11 Mbit/s
16:46 < anon11> 11 Mbits/sec
16:46 < sibiria> does the config try to set it as 11g?
16:47 < sibiria> ->  https://dpaste.org/7aO03/raw
16:47 < anon11> mode 11g in hostname.athn0
16:47 < vortexx> anon11: oh yeah sory
16:47 < vortexx> sorry
16:48 < anon11> sibiria: Yes it is 11g similar to the one you sent
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16:50 < anon11> Ok so it stays connected now but no network on phone
16:51 < anon11> Ok I am dumb I tried to disable pf to test thing (but issue was something else) so it stoped the network trafic
16:51 < anon11> Enabling it and wifi works again 
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