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13:59 < Posterdati> hi 
14:00 < Posterdati> please help, I'm running smtpd on 7.5, it cannot work anymore with renewed letsencrypt certificate: warn:  /etc/mail/dkim/cert.pem: not owned by uid 0
14:00 < Posterdati> thanks!
14:02 < Posterdati> warn:  /etc/mail/dkim/cert.pem: not owned by uid 0
14:02 < Posterdati> smtpd: load_pki_tree: failed to load certificate file
14:02 < sibiria> so let root own it?
14:02 < Posterdati> no
14:03 < Posterdati> _smtpd:_dovecot
14:03 < sibiria> ok, then don't
14:04 < Posterdati> the files ownership is _smtpd:_dovecot
14:04 < sibiria> yes
14:04 < sibiria> so: let root own it
14:04 < Posterdati> root:_dovecot
14:04 < Posterdati> or root:wheel
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14:05 < sibiria> if dovecot drops all permissions but still wants to refresh the cert while running, it needs to be group-readable by _dovecot
14:06 < Posterdati> ok
14:06 < Posterdati> thanks
14:07 < Posterdati> Aug 26 09:06:51 posterdati smtpd[3401]: dkimsign: Can't open key file (/etc/mail/dkim/private.key): Permission denied
14:07 < sibiria> dkimsign can run as any user/group you want
14:08 < sibiria> it can run under _smtpd user/group if you want
14:08 < sibiria> but i'm confused
14:08 < sibiria> how does let's encrypt come into the picture for your dkim keys?
14:08 < Lucas> why is the cert in dkim/
14:08 < Lucas> ?
14:08 < sibiria> dkim does not need certs
14:09 < sibiria> it uses your own private/public key. no certificate
14:09 < Posterdati> exactly
14:09 < Posterdati> pki cert 
14:09 < Lucas> yes, that's the thing. DKIM doesn't use PKI.
14:09 < Lucas> why are you try to bolt one on?
14:09 < sibiria> you said "does not work with renewed let's encrypt certificate"
14:10 < sibiria> dkim does not use *certs*
14:10 < Posterdati> if I configure the pki cert to point to letsencript file it won't work
14:10 < Posterdati> so I copied the cert.pem in a dir under /etc/mail
14:10 < sibiria> it should not use the same PKI
14:10 < sibiria> it should use its own
14:10 < Posterdati> ?
14:10 < Lucas> sorry, are you talking about the mail certs, or the DKIM key?
14:10 < Lucas> those are 2 different things
14:11 < Posterdati> in /etc/mail/dikim there's only the private key
14:11 < sibiria> Posterdati: DKIM should not use your host SSL/TLS keys. it should have its own keys
14:11 < Posterdati> I removed all other files
14:11 < sibiria> and certs are not involved at all. let's encrypt is not involved
14:12 < sibiria> you just make a private key of your own. no signatures, no certs. then you rotate that at least once a year
14:12 < Posterdati> so may generate an rsa key?
14:12 < sibiria> yes
14:12 < Posterdati> ok
14:12 < Posterdati> and what about pki cert?
14:12 < sibiria> no cert.
14:12 < sibiria> just private + public RSA key. stay with 2048 bits for now
14:13 < sibiria> public key goes into your dkim DNS record. private key stays on server so dkimsign can use it
14:13 < Posterdati> openssl genrsa -out private.key
14:14 < sibiria> add "2048" to the end, to control the size of the key
14:14 < Posterdati> it defaults to 2048
14:15 < sibiria> 1024 bit too small today. 4096 too heavy for a few lame mailhosts
14:15 < Posterdati> I created the key
14:15 < Posterdati> Generating RSA private key, 2048 bit long modulus
14:15 < Posterdati> I placed it under /etc/mail/dkim/
14:15 < Posterdati> ownership root:_dovecot
14:15 < Posterdati> -rw-r--r--
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14:16 < sibiria> ok. then make the public key.  openssl rsa -in priv.key -pubout -out pub.key
14:16 < Posterdati> ok
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14:16 < sibiria> and publish that as usual for your dkim dns record
14:16 < Posterdati> done
14:17 < Posterdati> and pki?
14:18 < sibiria> that is all. no certs are involved for dkim.
14:18 < sibiria> just point opensmtpd's dkimsign to the private key, and publish the public key in your dns record
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14:21 < Posterdati> done with the dns + public key
14:21 < Posterdati> may I comment out the pki cert and key entries?>
14:22 < sibiria> what do you mean?
14:22 < sibiria> the private key must remain readable for dkimsign as long as the corresponding public key is in your dns
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14:23 < Posterdati> pki mail.xxxxxx.xx cert "..."
14:23 < Posterdati> pki mail.xxxxxx.xx key "..."
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14:23 < Lucas> that's not DKIM
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14:23 < sibiria> that looks like your regular host cert/key. it is not involved in dkim
14:23 < Lucas> for that, yes, use acme-client
14:23 < Posterdati> dkim it's ok now
14:23 < Posterdati> now pki
14:24 < Posterdati> I have letsencrypt certs
14:24 < Lucas> point the pki lines to those certs
14:24 < Posterdati> for the mail domain
14:24 < Posterdati> using live?
14:24 < Lucas> btw, the private key shouldn't be world-readable
14:25 < Lucas> idk about the directory structure of certbot
14:25 < Posterdati> I know I will fix it later
14:25 < Posterdati> should 0600
14:25 < Lucas> yes, but owned by the user the DKIM signature happens with
14:26 < Lucas> for example, if you're using dkimsign-filter, then _dkimsign:_dkimsign 0600 works
14:26 < Posterdati> exactly! I had this configured, but it cannot load the key
14:27 < Posterdati> now -> smtpd: load_pki_tree: failed to load certificate file
14:27 < Posterdati> shall I use fullchain?
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14:27 < sibiria> you should use fullchain for the HOST PKI
14:27 < Posterdati> same error
14:29 < Posterdati> I'm out of mind :) wrong path
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14:36 < Posterdati> sibiria, Lucas thanks!
14:36 < Posterdati> sibiria, Lucas it is working now
14:36 < sibiria> great. if you want you can verify the signatures and such with for example www.learndmarc.com
14:37 < Posterdati> test mail sent
14:37 < Posterdati> new certificate loaded by thundercrap
14:38 < Posterdati> I had to change ownership for the key
14:38 < Posterdati> _smtpd:_dovecot
14:38 < Posterdati> not
14:38 < Posterdati> _dkimsign:_dkimsign
14:38 < Posterdati> whatever I place in smtpd.conf filter
14:38 < Posterdati> it works only with user _smtpd group _smtpd
14:39 < Posterdati> strange
14:41 < Posterdati> opensmtpd once configured is very stable, LOL
14:42 < rkta> Where can I find clang's scan-build? Do I have to install a package? Which one?
14:44 < phy1729> Looks like it'sin llvm
14:46 < rkta> That was my guess and I did pkg_add llvm. hash scan-build says no such command.
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14:47 < phy1729> It's suffixed with a version in case you have multiple versions of llvm installed it seems
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14:48 < rkta> scan-build-17 does not work, neither does scan-build-17.0
14:48 < rkta> How can I see which files were installed from pkg_add?
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14:49 < phy1729> pkg_info -L
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14:52 < rkta> oh, installation error... should have read what's on the screen
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16:50 < echelon> hello, i just noticed this morning that my monitor wasn't getting a signal, is there a way to force the screen to display over ssh?
16:51 < Bradipo> Are you running xenodm?
16:51 < Bradipo> If so, you could restart xenodm, and that might wake up the monitor.
16:51 < TaelTydes> i boot into tty so not 100% but you should be able to switch to a tty with ctrl-alt-fn-number
16:52 < Bradipo> I think this is remote via SSH...
16:52 < Bradipo> Though, perhaps I misunderstood what "force the screen to display over ssh" means.
16:53 < TaelTydes> true, that's not something I'm familiar with. i guess xenodm's interaction with the monitor output differs from the wscons framebuffer.
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16:54 < Bradipo> Well, I just don't know how someone would ever send ctrl-alt-fn-number via SSH and have it switch ttys.
16:54 < TaelTydes> if you don't already have an ssh key for the machine you could mount the parition from another & get your ssh key. ssh agent usually starts at boot so you should be able to ssh into it just fine despite seeing no monitor output.
16:55 < TaelTydes> sorry, I'm saying if echelon doesn't have an ssh key for the machine they may be able to switch to a tty locally & the monitor may output. saves setting ssh up.
16:55 < Bradipo> But certainly, if one has physical access, then one could try cltr-lat-fn-number.  That should kick the monitor into wakefulness too.
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16:56 < Bradipo> Yeah, we're kind of guessing at this point.  Missing details as to what is trying to be accomplished.
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17:26 < topcat001> Do the keyboard leds toggle if you press say caps/num lock?
17:26 < topcat001> if so the keyboard is alive and you can try vt switching
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17:53 < echelon> oh, sorry; i was called away.
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17:54 < echelon> i googled xendom and see advertisements for a body weight training supplement
17:55 < echelon> do i need X forwarding for that?
17:56 < echelon> nvm, it seems i can only run it as root?
17:57 < echelon> i'll have to try it next time it happens
17:57 < oldlaptop> xenodm has a manual page - as is often the case, you should look for manual pages before you google things.
17:58 < oldlaptop> Normally, it's what is responsible for starting X for you (including the graphical login screen).
17:58 < echelon> basically, i have synergy running over ssh, and i didn't want to constantly switch keyboard/mouse between my two systems to wake up the monitor
17:58 < echelon> i don't know why synergy wasn't triggering a mouse movement
17:59 < oldlaptop> You would "restart" it with rcctl(8); that will cause the X server to be killed and restarted.
17:59 < oldlaptop> From your description (now, *after* you've given us more information) it doesn't sound like that would be useful.
18:00 < echelon> ah, thanks
18:03 < Bradipo> echelon: In other words, you have 2 displays, one from one host and another from a different host and if you restrict your mouse movements to just one of the screens, the other one goes to sleep?
18:03 < Bradipo> All facilitated by synergy (and hopefully SSH for privacy/security).
18:05 < oldlaptop> xset(1) has some knobs for that sort of thing from the software side (if I understand correctly)
18:06 < oldlaptop> if the monitor does goofy things there might not be much to be done about it
18:06 < Bradipo> I have essentially the same setup... synergy over SSH, but I don't find myself anxiously moving the mouse between different displays to keep one of them awake.  The natural usage between the two seems sufficient.
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18:38 < echelon> Bradipo: i was just in a weird state earlier where i had to do a reboot, maybe synergy just wasn't working
18:38 < echelon> it was*
18:38 < echelon> typically if there's mouse movement on screen 1, screen 2 stays awake
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18:43 < Bradipo> It could also be that synergy got stuck.  I've had that happen numerous times and I have to kill it and restart it.
18:43 < Bradipo> Don't need to reboot though, just restart synergy.
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19:05 < systemdsucks> someone here had a long boot delay for the openbsd boot menu to appear
19:06 < systemdsucks> I did a reset of pram/nvram and now boots instantly to the prompt
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19:35 < izder456> did my upgrade to the latest snapshot and saw that both the kern.audio.record and kern.video.record sysctl variables were axed. is there another way to toggle media record? i guess im a but confused as to why this toggle was removed considering the utility of it
19:36 < izder456> s/but/bit:
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19:37 < jcs> that was a bug, it has been fixed for the next snap
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20:36 < vortexx> systemdsucks: that was klsrqm iirc
20:36 < vortexx> good to know, thanks
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20:38 < Posterdati> hi
20:38 < Posterdati> please help, I have this message in /var/log/messages -> sshd: default: setting resource limit stacksize: Invalid argument
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20:59 < izder456> jcs: thanks
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22:03 < Zerock> I'm having an issue where some processes (usually involving an nfs file system) will hang indefinitely and cannot be killed (even with kill -9). Any guesses as to what's going on? The state according to ps is "D" (waiting on disk).
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22:13 < vortexx> Zerock: is the nfs server on the local lan, or some other place ? If other place, is it over some form of VPN or directly over the internet?
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22:14 < Zerock> local lan, on the same switch
22:14 < klsrqm> systemdsucks & vortexx: thanks, taht was indeed me! I'll give that a go!
22:14 < Zerock> both systems configured with static IP addresses, if that matters
22:15 < Zerock> also this has happened using both TCP and UDP, but much more often on UDP
22:15 < klsrqm> systemdsucks: command-p-r on bootup?
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22:15 < systemdsucks> klsrqm: yes, that's what i did
22:15 < vortexx> Zerock: try using systat, pstat, fstat on both ends to see what you can find, many you need to tune the nfs server a bit
22:16 < Zerock> the openbsd client is the only client system that has issues with this nfs server
22:16 < klsrqm> systemdsucks: let me try that :) 
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22:21 < Zerock> I can see in fstat for a running "df" there are 3 open files with MODE of "bad" and no other meaningful information
22:21 < vortexx> Zerock: what's the server OS? Maybe you need to up limits in login.conf on the client. What's the program running on the client needing the nfs mount?
22:21 < Zerock> nfs server is freebsd
22:22 < Zerock> although actually it is truenas core, which may prove difficult to configure granularly
22:22 < klsrqm> systemdsucks: \o/ 
22:23 < klsrqm> systemdsucks: that WORKED, and it was the easiest fix, thank you so much! don't know why I hadn't thought of it before. Also it reset something with my screen settings and now the colours somehow look better! hadn't even noticed it was out of whack.
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22:23  * klsrqm does happy dance on his way to sleep
22:24 < klsrqm> so with that, bye all!
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22:25 < Zerock> the program on the client is actually just a backup routine, so this could be replaced by rsync
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22:25 < Zerock> I was going to use the nfs volume for netboot configs, but after the first couple of times this happened I decided it was too unreliable
22:29 < Zerock> hmm okay this is interesting. for a different running "df" the three other open files besides the executable and working directory are all showing my terminal (a pseudo-tty for ssh) in the SZ|DV column
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23:31 < Zerock> vortexx: just thought of a hypothesis as to why it's only this system. Due to a quirk of this system's architecture, both of the ethernet interfaces have the same hardware address. Even though the switch is isolated into vlans, I wonder if there's some ethernet confusion going on causing packets to go to the wrong place
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23:32 < Zerock> still weird that it causes processes to be unkillable
23:32 < Zerock> I thought kill -9 just deleted the process from the scheduler and moved on
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23:36 < phy1729> Some syscalls are uninterruptible 
23:36 < Zerock> hmm
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23:50 < izder456> o/
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