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02:04 < waks> I want to serve up an "directory auto index" directive for a fileshare on my http server under the directory "/pub". I want to use relayd to forward any requests to "/pub" to the port which the auto index is running on. This doesn't seem to work though, it doesn't like the fact that it's not accessed as "/pub" instead of "/". If I change the relayd rule to use "/" instead it works fine.
02:04 < waks> s/not\ accessed/accessed
02:06 < waks> Also, if I try to curl the auto index directly with the port number it's running on, it works. It's just when trying to access it through the relay
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02:38 < byteskeptical> waks: probably your ordering, what's your relayd.conf and httpd.conf look like?
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03:03 < waks> byteskepti: https://bpa.st/F2DQ
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03:13 < remiliascarlet> brynet | lts: The best alternative is probably `pkg_info -Q (package name or just a part of it)`.
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04:34 < lts> remiliascarlet: -aQ to find from all packages :-) But sometimes the browser is just more efficient, plus my most common use case is to find the port version for -current, while most boxes run release
04:35 < lts> Always good to have multiple choices
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04:46 < pardis> -aQ is only needed if running -release/-stable, otherwise -Q is sufficient
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07:30 < adig> I think this is something obvious I'm missing but why does
07:30 < adig> nc -vl 3000  > foo
07:30 < adig> work...
07:30 < adig> and
07:30 < adig> nc -vl 3000 | gzip  > foo
07:30 < adig> doesn't.
07:31 < adig> I get nothing in foo in the second case when I connect.
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07:31 < adig> And how would I accomplish what I'm actually interested in, getting a compressed version of Whatever nc got?
07:32 < rnkn> my guess is because gzip doesn’t write to stdout 
07:32 < rueda> gzip -c
07:33 < adig> -c not working either
07:36 < adig> nc -vl 3000 | cat  > foo works
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07:40 < rueda> if sending with nc, try nc -N; it works for me!
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07:43 < plan9> guessing gzip doesn't write anything until it's read a certain size of block of data, so you'll need more data, or nc to exit, before it outputs anything
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07:44 < adig> zip works btw
07:45 < adig> Yeah, data is small.
07:46 < adig> Now, how do I unzip stdin...
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07:54 < klsrqm> bsdunzip -d ./ filename.foo
07:55 < klsrqm> oh, stdin
07:57 < adig> Not sure that zip even works tho.
07:57 < adig> I get error starting with End-of-central-directory signature not found.
08:02 < adig> klsrqm: I see bsdunzip takes -
08:04 < klsrqm> adig: try gzcat?
08:05 < adig> At least that's what the man says for bsdunzip taking -.
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08:07 < klsrqm> adig: https://paste.c-net.org/CarriersCopper
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08:10 < adig> klsrqm: Thanks, but my my problem was also related to what I wrote above on only zip working when doing nc -vl 3000 | zip > foo
08:10 < adig> gzip doesn't work when doing this.
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12:17 < Zerock> so my sparc64 machine is occasionally getting a stack overflow when starting sshd at boot. I have a core dump file. Where can I find some assistance getting to the bottom of this?
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12:19 < sibiria> my immediate thought would be either bugs@ or sparc@ mailing lists
12:20 < sibiria> bugs@openbsd.org and/or sparc@openbsd.org
12:20 < Zerock> is there a known preferred place to upload core dumps? this is a 3.5MB file
12:20 < sibiria> i'm sure most anon file upload services would be ok
12:21 < sibiria> can't expect users to be able to host things themselves
12:21 < sibiria> base64-encode it and put it on dpaste.org maybe :p
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12:22 < Zerock> oh I can host it myself, but I didn't know if it was bad etiquette to link to my own server on the mailing list
12:23 < sibiria> can't imagine why
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15:46 < opv> Hello fine folks. Could you be so kind and recommend a lightweight IMAP server to use in conjunction with SMTPD? I'd really like to avoid the monstrosity that is Dovecot, esp for a single-digit amount of users. Thank you
15:46 < thyssentishman> does anyone here know how exactly the -mtime flag of find works on openbsd?
15:47 < thyssentishman> https://man.openbsd.org/find#mtime
15:48 < thyssentishman> if i understand correctly, the minimum value that is calculated to compare to n is 1
15:49 < thyssentishman> as it says that it rounds *up* to the next full 24-hour period
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15:49 < thyssentishman> so if i want to find files older that 24 ours, I need -mtime 2, correct?
15:50 < Bradipo> Wouldn't that be -mtime 1 ?
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15:51 < Bradipo> Or more accuratly: -mtime +1
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15:54 < thyssentishman> that's what I'm seeing everywhere else, but I don't see in the openbsd man page that this +/- format is supported
15:55 < sibiria> thyssentishman: -mtime +1
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15:55 < thyssentishman> ah no wait it does
15:56 < Bradipo> Yes it does.  And in fact, I don't think that it's very useful without +/i.
15:56 < Bradipo> +/- that is.
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15:57 < vortexx> opv: there's cyrus-imapd and courier-imap in packages, but I do not know lightweight they are vs dovecot
15:57 < thyssentishman> so -mtime 1 find files exactly one day old (discarding hours)
15:57 < Bradipo> Right.
15:57 < vortexx> s/know lightweight/know how lightweight
15:57 < thyssentishman> and -mtime +1 anything older than a day
15:57 < thyssentishman> correct?
15:57 < Bradipo> Yes, correct.
15:57 < thyssentishman> Bradipo: Thank you :)
15:57 < opv> ty vortexx 
15:57 < Bradipo> There is a paragraph just before OPERATORS that describes the +/-
15:57 < phy1729> the +/- stuff is explained at the end of the primaries (after -xdev)
15:58 < vortexx> yw
15:58 < Bradipo> "All primaries which take a numeric argument allow the number to be preceded by a plus sign (`+') or a minus sign (`-')."
15:58 < thyssentishman> yep I saw that now
15:58 < thyssentishman> thank you :)
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16:28 < thyssentishman> is there an equivalent to sys/statfs.h on openbsd?
16:28 < thyssentishman> I'm trying to build a port that imports it
16:29 < thyssentishman> I've replaced it with #include <sys/types.h>
16:29 < thyssentishman>      #include <sys/mount.h>
16:29 < thyssentishman> and I get a little further
16:29 < thyssentishman> but eventually I get error: no member named 'f_type' in 'statfs'
16:29 < thyssentishman>       return (stat_fs.f_type == NFS_FS);
16:29 < thyssentishman> any ideas?
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16:36 < TaelTydes> might be worth taking a look at the statfs impl 
16:37 < phy1729> I think it needs to check strcmp(stat_fs.f_fstypename, MOUNT_NFS)
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16:38 < TaelTydes> looks like there is https://man.openbsd.org/statfs.2
16:38 < IcePic> I think phy1729 is correct
16:40 < TaelTydes> ignore me .. work make brain tired
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16:40 < Bradipo> tired brain make more work
16:41 < TaelTydes> tis a vicious cycle
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16:45 < pardis> brains are the problem
16:45 < pardis> just have it removed
16:46 < phy1729> Ah see pardis likes LLMs now
16:47 < thyssentishman> thanks phy1729 I'll try that out
16:47 < TaelTydes> no scalpel precise enough it seems. 
16:47 < TaelTydes> what are you porting out of interest? 
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16:51 < TaelTydes> I patched dvtm's getcwd_by_pid to not use /proc but I'm wondering if there's a nicer solution than parsing ps output.
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16:55 < thyssentishman> TaelTydes: VTK -_-
16:55 < thyssentishman> need it for FreeCAD
16:56 < thyssentishman> but the error comes from a lib dependency from VTK, ioss
16:58 < pardis> TaelTydes: you probably want kvm_getprocs(3)
16:59 < TaelTydes> pardis: thanks. the patch works but clearly not a great idea ..
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17:00 < TaelTydes> i got my hopes up then after seeing a an opencascade patch in ports. opencascade it packaged though, that's cool.
17:01 < pardis> getcwd_by_pid sounds like an awful idea for a function, if it does what the name suggests
17:01 < pardis> there are so many edge cases
17:02 < pardis> and if it relies on procfs, it presumably targets Linux, where there are even more edge cases than traditional Unix thanks to mount namespaces
17:04 < pardis> you could have the implementation be return "/"; and it wouldn't affect worst-case reliability
17:04 < pardis> no procfs needed
17:04 < thyssentishman> TaelTydes: yep I'm the maintainer
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17:04 < thyssentishman> I have most of FreeCAD deps done. Its just VTK now
17:04 < thyssentishman> but its a monster
17:04 < TaelTydes> pardis: it's used for creating a window using current windows pwd only. seems it should be delegated to the user rather than making platform assumptions.  
17:04 < thyssentishman> ~8500 tasks
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17:14 < TaelTydes> theyssentish: seemed interesting tech despite capgemeni not offering me a internship. for freecad I presume?
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17:15 < setient> TaelTydes: i think there is a "better" way.
17:15 < setient> you can look at ps's source to see how it does it
17:15 < setient> https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/bin/ps/ps.c
17:15 < setient> its def reading from a file somewhere
17:15 < setient> because thats how unix/bsd work
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17:16 < pardis> what? no it isn't
17:16 < pardis> it uses kvm_getprocs
17:16 < setient> i just saw that
17:16 < setient> https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/bin/ps/ps.c#L362C1-L363C1
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17:17 < Lucas> oh, you're here byteskeptical 
17:17 < Lucas> monero is going to need a hella lot of work on https://github.com/tevador/RandomX to run
17:18 < Bradipo> I'm a byte skeptical that he's here...
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17:18 < Lucas> lol
17:19 < setient> TaelTydes: well, either way. there is your answer. instead of parsing output, you could use that syscall
17:19 < pardis> it's not a syscall
17:19 < pardis> and I already suggested using kvm_getprocs(3) anyway
17:19 < setient> pardis: also can't you just parse /dev/mem or whatnot if you wanted to?
17:20 < setient> as root or whatnot clearly
17:20 < setient> i know there are some nifty security things openbsd does to make that less easy?
17:20 < setient> but isn't that what kvm stuff does?
17:20 < pardis> no
17:21 < pardis> it uses sysctl(2) to get process information
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17:21 < pardis> you can read the libkvm source if you want to see how
17:21 < setient> i was looking for it
17:21 < Lucas> byteskeptical: or disabling JIT usage for it in Monero. I compiled it locally and it includes a test program. It works a fine until you enable the JIT, and I get the same backtrace I get in monerod with JIT enabled.
17:21 < pardis> kvm_getprocs is in /usr/src/lib/libkvm/kvm_proc2.c
17:21 < setient> and now i see it
17:21 < TaelTydes> pardis: kvm_getprocs is bsd specific? cloning the linux kernel to find out but we may be here some time ..
17:22 < pardis> probably, I don't know exactly where it originated
17:22 < TaelTydes> it would be nice if the patch could be merged rather than patched in ports.
17:22 < IcePic> I would guess "kvm" as an interface would be bsd specific
17:23 < TaelTydes> "/" did work though funnily. at least now I have a terser portable solution. I gather that's not ideal though.
17:23 < setient> i was reading the man page! apparently sunos is where it came from
17:23 < setient> TaelTydes: doing ps parsing is not portable either, because ps on bsd is different than gnu ps
17:23 < pardis> it is not possible to do this ideally because it is not guaranteed that a process's working directory is reachable by another process
17:24 < pardis> for any of a large number of reasons
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17:24 < pardis> it is not even guaranteed that if the path you get is reachable, it is the same directory as the one the other process sees
17:24 < TaelTydes> setient: this is true. that was a temp fix for myself.
17:25 < pardis> and even if that were guaranteed at a point in time (which it isn't), you'd still have the race condition of the directory possibly getting moved between the time you look at the process tree and the time you chdir
17:26 < thyssentishman> TaelTydes: no the ~8500 tasks are for VTK
17:27 < thyssentishman> don't know about FreeCAD yet
17:27 < thyssentishman> but I've been working on it on and off for like a year now
17:28 < TaelTydes> pardis: are you suggesting this be provided by the user?
17:29 < pardis> I'm suggesting whatever this software is doing probably doesn't make sense in the first place
17:29 < TaelTydes> thysent: I can imagine freecad being a massive pain to package / port. It's a (very cool) behemoth.
17:30 < setient> yeah
17:30 < setient> pardis: sounds like a lot of software
17:31 < TaelTydes> if you have a ports fork something it might be something I could chip at. Not that I'm qualified but I have a printer to build with intentions for learning CAD so I might be in need myself soon.
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17:34 < TaelTydes> pardis: it's a multiplexer. I know tmux is in base, but it's incomprehensible to me. I'd like to further seperate tagging & splitting into seperate progs & i'm forking to learn a few things.
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17:36 < sibiria> 1) tmux new <session name>   2) ctrl+b d to detach  3) tmux a to reattach
17:38 < fastidious> Anyone using neomutt that can tell me if highlighting a collapsed thread with new/unread messages is possible?
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17:38 < TaelTydes> siberia: i know how to use tmux. at 92k sloc though it'
17:38 < fastidious> Without user interaction, that is.
17:38 < TaelTydes> * it's a little chunky for my liking.
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17:39 < sibiria> the executable is about 1mb. it's not too bad
17:40 < Bradipo> I'm confused... what does tmux have to do with FreeCAD?  I imagine FreeCAD is enormous compared to tmux; in all respects.
17:40 < TaelTydes> it's less the size of the bin & more how easy to read the source is. I picked up openbsd as I wanted to learn some systems prog'ing
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17:44 < TaelTydes> Bradipo: thyssent is trying to port VTK, (presumably for freecad).  
17:45 < Bradipo> I see.  And I imagine that VTK is enormous compared to tmux...
17:47 < TaelTydes> I'm sure it is. I also imagine linux to be enormous compared to openbsd ..
17:48 < Bradipo> Indeed.
17:51 < TaelTydes> I've found the community to be incredibly helpful though. I can't imagine I'll learn a greal deal traipsing through that 30mil. She's still downloading.
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19:44 < thyssentishman> Bradipo: yep VTK is massive
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19:46 < thyssentishman> TaelTydes: I've been documenting the process here: https://forum.freecad.org/viewtopic.php?t=80792
19:46 < thyssentishman> the FreeCAD community has been super helpful
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19:48 < TaelTydes> Nice! a collosal amount of work but looks like you're close.
19:48 < Bradipo> That's a lot of dependencies...
19:50 < TaelTydes> As much as I appreciate simple builds I can't imagine a suckless freecad alternative happening any time soon.
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19:52 < thyssentishman> TaelTydes: that would be solvespace
19:52 < thyssentishman> I've ported that already to openbsd 
19:52 < thyssentishman> its an amazing lightweight CAD program
19:53 < Bradipo> I use qcad.  I tried LibreCAD but I didn't like the interface and interactions.
19:54 < TaelTydes> happy to be proven wrong in that case! 
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19:55 < thyssentishman> https://solvespace.com
19:55 < thyssentishman> but qcad and librecad are 2d only
19:55 < TaelTydes> they have a channel here on libera.
19:55 < thyssentishman> AFAIK
19:56 < thyssentishman> for small models to 3D print, solvespace or openscad should be enough
19:56 < thyssentishman> freecad is another beast
19:58 < Bradipo> Yes, qcad and librecad are 2D only.
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19:58 < Bradipo> Though, qcad can produce 3D-like representations with some effort.
19:58 < Bradipo> I am not doing 3D printing so it's enough.
19:59 < TaelTydes> I had a look into openscad some time & got interested in opencascade for some reason.
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20:00 < TaelTydes> I'm in the middle of a flat move & going into last yr uni but I've got that post bookmakred thyssent.
20:01 < thyssentishman> TaelTydes: who knows, if VTK decides to compile you might see FreeCAD in the mailing list soon
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20:03 < thyssentishman> so far VTK compiles around 5200 of ~8500 tasks
20:03 < thyssentishman> so not that far
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20:11 < thrig> maybe keepassxc has some command you can run before xlock or something
20:12 < wolfdog> keepassxc-cli has a `close` subcommand, but for some reason running it does nothing
20:14 < wolfdog> maybe i'll have to settle with having it lock on minimize
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20:17 < thrig> or figure out what "session lock" means and whether running enough dbus gnome whatever bloat is worth that feature
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20:21 < Bradipo> dbus seems to bring in massive bloat.
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20:57 < thyssentishman> phy1729: the strcmp bit you suggested worked
20:57 < thyssentishman> thanks!
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21:52 < thyssentishman> VTK compiled :o
21:53 < thyssentishman> \o/
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22:42 < TaelTydes> VICTORY!
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22:44 < Bradipo> w00t!
22:44 < thyssentishman> TaelTydes: Indeed :) Now I'm enabling some modules, so let's hope it still compiles
22:45 < TaelTydes> thysentt: just Salome SMESH to go? (hopefully).
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22:46 < thyssentishman> Yes, but I'm thinking of using the one included in FreeCADs source
22:46 < thyssentishman> Apparently SMESH is part of a bigger suite of software and is a pain to package separately
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22:59 < TaelTydes> that'd be nice if it's an option. seems the determinism is paying off. no small feat.
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23:03 < thrig> Elder Text Scrolling XXVIII
23:05 < quinq> thrig, is Dragonbored
23:05 < quinq> s/,//
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23:22 < sibiria> Elder Scrolls Offline
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23:25 < waks> Hi, I want to change MIME types in httpd so that files with no extension display as text/plain. I tried both a wildcard as the file extension and '' but neither worked.
23:25 < waks> I also can't find a manual page for the mime.types file
23:28 < thrig> fiddle with httpd.h and recompile
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23:34 < waks> Time to get messy I guess lol, thanks
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