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05:43 < housemate> where may I obtain a copy of the openbsd httpd from, please..?
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05:54 < jrmu-> housemate: it comes installed with openbsd
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06:02 < quinq> Yes but housemate wants a *copy*
06:03 < dlg> of the code? or the binary?
06:03 < dlg> you can probably just download and untar base75.tgz or 76 and get it out of there
06:03 < quinq> I suppose of the binary
06:04 < quinq> They didn't say source
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07:36 < pardis> you can use cp to copy anything
07:36 < pardis> it's very versatile
07:39 < housemate> how may I boot this distribution using systemd boot, ..?
07:40 < zelest> this distribution of BSD does not use systemd. In fact, no BSD uses systemd. :)
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07:49 < IcePic> BSDs are not "distributions" in the linux sense either
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07:54 < pardis> captain, my tricorder is picking up signs of trolling
07:56 < IcePic> 8-ball indicates this might be the case
07:56 < inz> IcePic: A question please.
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10:21 < lts> Well you can boot into Windows with systemd-boot and Windows doesn't use systemd either
10:22 < lts> It should be just a boot manager. Never used it though
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15:25 < avemestr> So, Plex Media Server is not available on OpenBSD. Proprietary and closed source. Supports Linux and FreeBSD. But the instructions on how to upgrade those OSes are headache inducing (including FreeBSD, Debian, Fedora, SUSE... Ubuntu seems the least-worst).
15:26 < avemestr> In other words: OpenBSDs syspatch and sysupgrade are truly killer features.
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15:28 < mikewilzn> Between major versions you mean? Ubuntu and Debian are a pain. FreeBSD and Fedora are fairly easy. I don't have much experience with SUSE. 
15:29 < avemestr> Yes, between major versions.
15:29 < mikewilzn> Arch is of course the best
15:30 < avemestr> It's not because I cannot do it. There's just a lot of knobs. Here's FreeBSDs guide: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/
15:31 < systemdsucks> mikewilzn: that's some weird spelling for void
15:31 < avemestr> (I think it really just takes "freebsd-update fetch", "freebsd-update install", "freebsd-update -r xx.y-RELEASE upgrade"). But there's a lot of other stuff. Compare to "sysupgrade".
15:34 < oldlaptop> debianoids aren't that hard in the common case (their documentation on upgrades is so... intimidating because of how many uncommon cases there are)
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15:34 < oldlaptop> the common case in that sense is really all sysupgrade even tries to do
15:34 < oldlaptop> (perhaps a valuable lesson in there)
15:34 < mikewilzn> It's really only "freebsd-update -r <version> upgrade" "freebsd-update install"
15:35 < mikewilzn> The first two commands are just the standard patching process. It's just saying make sure you did that before you do a major version upgrade
15:38 < avemestr> mikewilzn: I was/am learning FreeBSD :-)
15:38 < avemestr> Just a slightly intimidating page I linked to.
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15:39 < pardis> the most frustrating part of OpenBSD upgrades is usually the post-sysupgrade pkg_add -u
15:39 < pardis> so in that sense comparing sysupgrade to the Debian upgrade process is not like-for-like
15:39 < avemestr> And sysmerge....
15:39 < mikewilzn> Interesting, I personally found FreeBSD documentation much easier to read and figure stuff out than OpenBSD
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17:15 < samjiman> Hi all. I'm trying to build Python from source on OpenBSD 7.5 amd64/x86-64. I run ./configure with my chosen options but once it runs through the detections, it complains that essentially that OpenBSD isn't supported, which I'm sure is nonsense. Any ideas? Thanks. Is it just a case of using GCC instead o Clang?
17:15 < samjiman> Platform "x86_64-unknown-openbsd7.5" with compiler "clang" is not supported by the
17:15 < samjiman> CPython core team, see https://peps.python.org/pep-0011/ for more information.
17:17 < phy1729> Is there a reason you aren't using the package?
17:17 < samjiman> I want the latest? Pkg is okay if you've got 3.12. I managed to build it on FreeBSD and I'm essentially trying to create a similar env on OpenBSD
17:18 < samjiman> 3.12.5
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17:19 < samjiman> It seemed to come with 3.10 - might be okay. I'm not sure if I'm using features from 3.11 or greater
17:21 < phy1729> Ah seems ports is no longer doing multiple py3 versions. I'd at least try and build via the port and not just standalone
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17:24 < samjiman> Okay, I'm new to ports - I'll try to lean how to do it. Just trying to use GCC now. Will be surprised if that works but worth a punt.
17:24 < samjiman> Thanks for the help
17:24 < sibiria> openbsd needs some 500-600 lines of "arm-twisting" to make python build. sure-shot sign python is a garbage project :p
17:25 < samjiman> It's okay. I wrote an implementation of Redis server farily quickly. I plan to rewrite it in D and when I learn more about TCP maybe in C++
17:25 < samjiman> I mean when I learn how to use TCP in C++
17:26 < samjiman> Platform "x86_64-unknown-openbsd7.5" with compiler "gcc" is not supported by the
17:26 < samjiman> CPython core team, see https://peps.python.org/pep-0011/ for more information.
17:26 < samjiman> Guess I'll try the port
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17:29 < samjiman> Do you think a lot of changes in Python source for OpenBSD is changing strcat etc for the more secure OpenBSD replacements?
17:30 < phy1729> You can take a look at lang/python/3/patches
17:30 < phy1729> Also sibiria where'd you get 500-600? wc -l lang/python/3/patches/* outputs 189 total
17:31 < samjiman> https://github.com/openbsd/ports/tree/master/lang/python ?
17:31 < samjiman> Do I just git clone that?
17:32 < phy1729> That or use cvs
17:32 < samjiman> Okay. Thanks.
17:33 < IcePic> not too many patches, https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/lang/python/3/patches/
17:33 < IcePic> kind of short most of them
17:35 < samjiman> Do i then use patch python_dist_file < patch-* on each one or is there a tool or something?
17:35 < phy1729> You'll want to read the porters handbook (linked from the FAQ iirc)
17:36 < samjiman> Ah I just run the Make right. Sorry I'm totally new. Alright thanks. 
17:36 < samjiman> https://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/ ?
17:37 < phy1729> Yep
17:37 < sibiria> phy1729: the build scripts
17:38 < Bradipo> Keep in mind, that running make in that port directory may build more than just the port.
17:38 < samjiman> I won't do it with Git. I'll do it as the book says.
17:38 < Bradipo> It will attempt to pull in any other build requirements and build those first.
17:42 < samjiman> Thanks
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17:45 < oldlaptop> something to consider: there's probably a reason there isn't already a newer version of $THING in ports, often that it would be a lot of work that somebody hasn't done yet. In python's case you're probably in luck, because much of that work would be compatibility-testing (at least build-testing) all of the other things that could be broken by a new python version
17:46 < samjiman> Seems to be version 3.11.9 which is new enough for me
17:46 < oldlaptop> (it's not likely you care about *all* of them - in fact it seems to be fairly common for a version bump for something like python to involve "hey look, this port the new python version is breaking looks like a zombie, let's remove it")
17:46 < samjiman> 3.10 might even work, but I want to learn how to use ports anyway
17:47 < samjiman> Might as well try it, if I can't get it to work I'll just use the latest package available
17:47 < samjiman> I'm trying to learn OpenBSD as a Linux user
17:49 < Bradipo> Well, how often did you build "ports" on Linux?
17:50 < Bradipo> Did you build RPMs or DEB packages?
17:50 < samjiman> On Linux I would often build Python from source direct from python.org
17:50 < samjiman> But I noticed on Arch distros the packages are often the latest Python anyway
17:50 < Bradipo> I suppose that makes sense if one is using Python 2.7.18, but I would likely prefer a package over building from source if it's available.
17:51 < samjiman> Well I like endeavour os handle it as a package
17:51 < samjiman> but sometimes on debian i like to build from source because their packages are old
17:52 < samjiman> tbh Python isn't too bad to build from source - yeah its no st :D or other suckless app
17:52 < samjiman> * let endeavour os use packages for Python
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17:53 < samjiman> I like to have at least 3.11 because I often use some stuff which I think its from 3.11
17:53 < nmdv> not worth it, ports folks take care of making sure all the particular details about a give software package match the OS. It handles dependencies correctly and do not override stuff, which could and will happen if you build and install it yourself. 
17:54 < samjiman> Althought not always, a lot of stuff I use was introduced earlier
17:54 < nmdv> but you could use ports and tweak the port makefile to look for the version you want to use
17:54 < nmdv> most likely most of the patches used in the port are still relevant in the 3.11 version
17:55 < samjiman> I think 3.11.9 wil be okay, thanks. I extracted ports.tar.gz, continuing to follow the book.
17:56 < nmdv> we have 3.11 in ports already
17:56 < nmdv> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/ports/lang/python/Makefile?rev=1.79&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
17:59 < samjiman> Yeah I saw on Git, seems to be 3.11.9
17:59 < avemestr> samjiman: Are you running OpenBSD release or snapshot?
17:59 < samjiman> make search key=python returns everything with a python dependency
18:00 < samjiman> releaase
18:00 < samjiman> I got the ISO
18:00 < oldlaptop> <samjiman> but sometimes on debian i like to build from source because their packages are old
18:00 < oldlaptop> for the *most* part openbsd's not so bad with that, if only because releases are on a pretty strict six-month cadence
18:01 < avemestr> samjiman: If you switch to snapshot, I believe you should get the latest python by simply doing "pkg_add -u".
18:01 < oldlaptop> and if something *is* really old it's often for the same reason you'll have trouble building it yourself
18:01 < samjiman> make search key=lang/python/3.11
18:01 < samjiman> Port:   python-3.11.8
18:01 < samjiman> Path:   lang/python/3.11
18:01 < samjiman> Info:   interpreted object-oriented programming language
18:01 < samjiman> Maint:  Kurt Mosiejczuk <kmos@openbsd.org>
18:01 < samjiman> Index:  lang x11/tk lang/tcl
18:01 < samjiman> L-deps: archivers/bzip2 archivers/xz databases/sqlite3 devel/gettext,-runtime devel/libffi security/libb2
18:01 < samjiman> B-deps: devel/autoconf/2.69 devel/dwz devel/metaauto
18:01 < samjiman> R-deps:
18:01 < samjiman> Archs:  aarch64 amd64 arm i386 mips64 mips64el powerpc powerpc64 riscv64 aarch64 alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 mips64 mips64el powerpc powerpc64 riscv64 sparc64 alpha hppa sh sparc64
18:01 < oldlaptop> Please don't do that
18:01 < avemestr> samjiman: But switching to snapshot right now might be a bumpy road, because the next OpenBSD release has been tagged, IIRC.
18:01 < samjiman> Sorry
18:02 < oldlaptop> Oh, is it That Time (TM)?
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18:02 < avemestr> oldlaptop: Somebody mentioned it in chan a couple of days ago - I didn't investigate further.
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18:04  * oldlaptop last rebuilt last week, that calls itself 6.7-beta
18:04 < samjiman> Seems to be building the 3.11 port now. Thanks a lot, guys.
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18:28 < Foxy_> avemestr: OpenBSD next release (7.6) has not been tagged, we are still in Beta phase
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18:33 < oldlaptop> so today's amd64 snapshot calls itself, certainly
18:34 < avemestr> Foxy_: Thanks for clarification!
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18:42 < vortexx> oldlaptop: nah we're still in -beta for now
18:43 < vortexx> oops hadn't scrolled back down enough, disregard
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21:01 < highplainsdruid> i've got a new to me used machine that i've put openbsd on, and it's always maxing out one of the cpus with something not in userland
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21:01 < highplainsdruid> any tips how to diagnose it?
21:03 < highplainsdruid> https://batteen.com/dmesg.html
21:04 < highplainsdruid> oh that's ugly
21:04 < highplainsdruid> https://batteen.com/dmesg.txt
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21:09 < vortexx> highplainsdruid: systat should tell you
21:09 < vortexx> if not the usual: top
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21:11 < highplainsdruid> i didn't see anything in top or htop but i see a gazillion interrupts on acpi0 in systat
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21:13 < highplainsdruid> i wonder if it's this: https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/16xt79k/how_to_debug_acpi_issues/
21:16 < tommyrot> top -S
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21:17 < highplainsdruid> thank you
21:17 < highplainsdruid> acpi0 consuming 17% cpu
21:21 < highplainsdruid> so i guess boot -c anddisable various components of the acpi driver and see what makes it run normally, and if the system will work without it?
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21:24 < highplainsdruid> maybe starting with the ones that have weird messages in dmesg
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21:36 < sibiria> wasn't there a bug where some intel integrated graphics would cause an interrupt storm if booted without something connected to the hdmi/displayport
21:36 < sibiria> acpi-related
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21:43 < oldlaptop> that machine does not appear to have any inteldrm stuff (ark-ing up the CPU, besides observing the polaris11 down at the bottom)
21:43 < oldlaptop> though I suppose maybe a polaris11 can do the same thing?
21:43 < sibiria> oh, did not read what hardware it was
21:44  * oldlaptop should try openbsd on the metal on this (polaris11-having) box again sometime
21:45 < oldlaptop> highplainsdruid: combining points here: maybe amdgpu is the first thing to try UKC-ing off
21:46 < oldlaptop> it's a lot of code, not world-renowned for incredibly high quality
21:47 < oldlaptop> (though jsg@ making it work in openbsd at all deserves world-wide renown)
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22:04 < anexit> Hey all, this is an old freebsd NAT rule, what would this look like in openbsd today?
22:04 < anexit> nat on $ext_if from !($ext_if) to any -> ($ext_if)
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22:05 < anexit> this is what I came up with but I don't think it's the same;
22:05 < anexit> match out on $ext_if inet from !($ext_if:network) to any nat-to ($ext_if:0)
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22:10 < avemestr> What are you trying to do? I believe that just enables NAT. But if you want to actually redirect traffic from the outside on specific port(s) to at specific machine on the LAN, that requires another rule with rdr-to.
22:11 < avemestr> (The actual port forwarding)
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22:24 < highplainsdruid> thanks for the tips
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22:24 < highplainsdruid> i will say i tried two different gpus, however, both amdgpu so not sure that tells us anything
22:25 < highplainsdruid> i'm going to wait a little longer before i really dig into that machine because it's doing a job for another hour and a half
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22:34 < Zerock> highplainsdruid: is it a laptop by chance?
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22:35 < Zerock> I had a similar issue on a newish thinkpad
22:35 < Zerock> solution was disabling thunderbolt in BIOS. it was endlessly throwing interrupts which the kernel apparently wasn't answering in a satisfactory way
22:38 < oldlaptop> don't see that many E5-1620 laptops around these parts
22:39 < Zerock> actually now that I think of it, being a laptop probably wasn't a component of it. I noticed it could be triggered to occur with lid actions though
22:39 < highplainsdruid> it's an old xeon workstation
22:40 < highplainsdruid> i'll have to look in the bios, that's a good idea
22:42 < Zerock> one other weird part of my issue was that it would only happen on cold boot or waking from suspend. warm boot would not have the issue
22:45  * oldlaptop wonders if anyone has ever made an lga2011 "laptop" out of a 1U rackmount case or something
22:45 < oldlaptop> just to have the loudest laptop fan in the room
22:46  * Zerock casually pulls it out of his backpack then breaks the coffee table with it
22:46 < highplainsdruid> my t550 is heavy enough
22:46 < highplainsdruid> a modern laptpo is probably competitive with the e5-1620 though
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22:48 < oldlaptop> this 2760QM over here shouldn't be aaaaaaaall that far off on paper
22:49 < oldlaptop> like, more than half the throughput, maybe
22:49 < highplainsdruid> i believe the e5-1620 was discontinued in 2014
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22:50 < highplainsdruid> makes a fine firewall/router/mail/nginx server though
22:50 < oldlaptop> rather overqualified
22:50 < highplainsdruid> i wanted something with ecc ram
22:50 < highplainsdruid> but yes
22:50 < highplainsdruid> better over than under
22:50 < oldlaptop> Just so
22:51 < oldlaptop> it even has a core to waste on interrupt storms!
22:51  * oldlaptop flees
22:52 < highplainsdruid> brb going to connect from a different machine so i don't lose this when i work on that machine
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22:53 < highplainsdruid> if it weren't the core that was running the kernel i wouldn't even mind
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22:53 < highplainsdruid> but it really bogs the whole machine down
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22:59 < highplainsdruid> well, it's not amdgpu
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23:07 < highplainsdruid> it's acpimadt
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23:08 < highplainsdruid> wonder what i'm missing out on without that.  descriptoin says 'configures system processors and I/O APICs based on information extracted from the ACPI APIC table'
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23:09 < highplainsdruid> cpu frequency scaling seems to work fine and my temperatures are the same as before
23:09 < highplainsdruid> the machine is vastly more responsive now
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23:10 < highplainsdruid> so can i put something like 'boot -c \n disable acpimadt \n exit' in /etc/boot.conf and have it automatically do that for me every time?
23:11 < anexit> avemestr: well it's weird.. we have a VOIP PBX and with gif tunnels everything works but the website.
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23:12 < anexit> You can actually login.. it's stable but it keeps resetting
23:12 < anexit> coming from the public IP it works fine.
23:13 < anexit> Workstation ------Openbsd firewall/NAT---rdr-to(443)------webserver
23:13 < anexit> That works
23:13 < anexit> Workstation ---> Openbsd firewall (GIF Tunnel) --- webserver  
23:13 < anexit> Login and it resets
23:14 < Bradipo> What resets?
23:15 < Bradipo> As in the kernel crashes?
23:15 < anexit> The webpage itself
23:16 < Bradipo> I guess I'm not sure what a "reset webpage" means.  You mean there is a form that loses values?
23:16 < Bradipo> Or the httpd drops the connection?
23:16 < anexit> So I load this PBX/VOIP website and it will say... "lost connection to the switchboard resetting and it's back in seconds.  
23:16 < anexit> it's like a website to make sip calls
23:16 < Bradipo> Ok.
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23:17 < anexit> Yeah I dunno
23:17 < anexit> maybe a NAT issue but I don't think so
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23:19 < anexit> hmm
23:19 < anexit> or this website is a steaming pile..
23:19 < anexit> LOL
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23:29 < highplainsdruid> is the website something you are running?
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23:37 < anexit> Well it's coming from the openbsd router as a RST 
23:37 < anexit> hmm
23:37 < anexit> highplainsdruid nah it's switchvox which is a "commercial appliance"
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23:53 < highplainsdruid> ah i see
23:54 < highplainsdruid> i have a few of those on my work network as well
23:54 < highplainsdruid> i'm creating one too
23:55 < highplainsdruid> hoping to avoid some common pitfalls
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23:58 < anexit> Creating one?
23:58 < highplainsdruid> yeah idk i may have bitten off more than i can chew.  but it can't be any worse than my predecessor
23:58 < highplainsdruid> i use a point of sale system that runs on dos
23:58 < anexit> LOL
23:58 < highplainsdruid> it's half the reason i have a job as the it manager at this grocery store
23:59 < anexit> My job is with a circus
23:59 < highplainsdruid> i'm taking over the company from the guy who wrote it, he's 69 years old.  my writing/building the next version is my buy in, and then i'll give him a percentage of the profits for a number of years
23:59 < highplainsdruid> a literal circus?
23:59 < highplainsdruid> because mine is a figurative circus
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