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02:12 < op999> do people like mg
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02:24 < pardis> I'm sure people do
02:34 < op999> i do
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09:42 < amnesiac> Hi. could iked use ec algorithm rather than rsa ?
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09:53 < IcePic> amnesiac: looks like it can use EC for the group algos, but not for the crypto transforms
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11:51 < thalos> Hi! I'm implementing IPv6 support in an app. On linux, if I listen on a socket(AF_INET6...) I get both IPv4 and IPv6, on FreeBSD and NetBSD I have to disable ipv6-only stack with: with setsockopt(sockfd, IPPROTO_IPV6, IPV6_V6ONLY, ..) but on OpenBSD, this setsockopt() call fails with errno Invalid Argument. Can anyone shed some light on this? What should I do?
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12:04 < mischief> thalos: make two sockets?
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12:09 < thalos> mischief: Sure, that's an option but one I would like to avoid for several reasons so I was wondering if it's dual-stack is doable in some way on OpenBSD
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12:15 < mischief> thalos: to my knowledge, no.
12:17 < thalos> mischief: ok, thanks
12:19 < thalos> It's interesing because I get get the IPPROTO_IPV6, IPV6_V6ONLY from the kernel, so it seems the option is there. It's just not settable.
12:21 < IcePic> openbsd didn't want to surprise users that had "v4-only code" to suddenly get v6 packets in that socket, so openbsd forces you to have two sockets if you want to listen to both v4 and v6 traffic
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12:21 < IcePic> hence it doesn't have a way to say "take this multiprotocol socket and make sure it becomes v6 only" or something to that effect
12:24 < IcePic> as per "man setsockopt", Finally, SO_TYPE, SO_DOMAIN, SO_PROTOCOL, SO_ERROR, and SO_PEERCRED are options used only with getsockopt(). SO_TYPE returns the type of the socket, such as SOCK_STREAM; it is useful for servers that inherit sockets on startup. SO_DOMAIN returns the domain of the socket, such as AF_INET.
12:24 < IcePic> so its get only.
12:24 < thalos> IcePic: I'm not sure I follow you. If and only if you open a socket with the AF_INET6 option (explicitly request a IPv6 socket) does linux (and FreeBSD/NetBSD if you ask the kernel) give you IPv6 traffic. Any application that opens "old" IPv4-only sockets with AF_INET will only get IPv4 traffic. So How would that be a surprise on OpenBSD?
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12:27 < IcePic> you can inherit a socket from someone else and not know how it was connected
12:27 < IcePic> like (quote): create an IPv6 server socket that can also accept IPv4 connections. To do so, create a regular IPv6 socket, turn off the socket option IPV6_V6ONLY, bind it to the "any" address, and start receiving. IPv4 addresses will be presented as IPv6 addresses, in the IPv4-mapped format
12:28 < thalos> IcePic: How do you inhert a socket from someone else? Other than in a fork/threaded application?
12:28 < IcePic> you can sendmsg() it, no?
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12:29 < IcePic> or that might not be tcp sockets, only af_unix. But sure, fork/exec() 
12:34 < thalos> sendmsg() a socket fd to another process?
12:34 < sibiria> mischief: you need two listeners/sockets for dual-stack in openbsd
12:35 < sibiria> open both, tuck 'em into a select/poll set
12:35 < thalos> In a fork/exec/thread app I would assume you have some knowledge about the type of connections you're gonna be dealing with though. But I guess this is all besides the point. I'll try and see if I can find something in the kernel source about this
12:35 < sibiria> sorry, i meant that for thalos
12:36 < sibiria> and thankfully that approach works just fine on linux and the other BSDs as well
12:36 < sibiria> it's a fully portable method
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12:39 < thalos> sibiria: Sure, if that's the only way to listen on IPv6 on OpenBSD I'll of course have to do it that way. And I'm already using a poll set so won't be any problems there. The only concern I had here was that, depending on how you configure the app it might need to open quite alot of sockets. And since there is a limit on how many sockets an app can open it would have been nice to keep the number low in 
12:40 < thalos> order to potentially save the user from the hassle of increasing the max allowed fd's open
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12:40 < sibiria> it's the only way to listen on *both* IPv6 and IPv4 at the same time
12:40 < thalos> sibiria: Roger that
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13:44 < IcePic> op999: I use it on my macos work laptop too, I am too accustomed to typing mg to change my habits. ;)
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19:12 < klsrqm> forgot -- where do i set the mirror for pkg_add?
19:13 < jcs> /etc/installurl
19:13 < klsrqm> meh. thanks. i was staring right at it in /etc/ and totally glazed over it. thank you
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19:17 < Posterdati> hi
19:18 < Posterdati> please help, what is this error?? -> /bsd: pagedaemon: wait_pla deadlock detected!
19:18 < Posterdati> and then the box freezed :)
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19:19 < klsrqm> sounds like the OpenBSD version of a Blue Screen of Death to my novice ears :) What do the logs say?
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19:20 < Posterdati> nothing after that, just only the new booting kernel messages
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19:21 < klsrqm> nothing in /var/log/daemon for example?
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19:22 < klsrqm> or even /var/log/messages
19:22 < Posterdati> nothing
19:23 < Posterdati> only that error in /var/log/messages
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19:39 < phy1729> The comment above sys/uvm/uvm_pmemrange.c 2117 points to the comment in uvm_wait (sys/uvm/uvm_pdaemon.c 137). No clue what to do about it though
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19:40 < phy1729> Assuming you're at a console with a ddb prompt  https://www.openbsd.org/ddb.html
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20:51 < klsrqm> does anyone develop for ESP32 on OpenBSD?
20:54 < jcs> i do
20:55 < klsrqm> what's your toolchain like? what do you use? i used to just use VSCodium / Thonny on Linux (for Micropython) but I'm a bit lost here
20:55 < jcs> my toolchain is 'pkg_add arduino-esp32 makeesparduino vim--no_x11'
20:55 < klsrqm> for whatever reason connecting via `screen` loves to crash 
20:56 < klsrqm> thanks, that seems simple enough
20:56 < klsrqm> should be reproducible with upython
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21:13 < mischief> klsrqm: try cu? :)
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21:21 < klsrqm> i did, it doesn't do anything for me... alas. 
21:21 < klsrqm> but i'm having moderate success with `rshell`, the micropython controller thingie
21:24 < klsrqm> hm, do i need to add myself to "dialer" or something?
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22:10 < mischief> klsrqm: yep, you need to be a dialer
22:10 < mischief> you can add yourself to the group and just run e.g. `cu -s 115200 -l /dev/cuaU1`
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22:23 < klsrqm> thanks, got it!
22:24 < adig> klsrqm: I did ESP32 development on OpenBSD but I did baremetal only without ESP-IDF.
22:24 < adig> Used cu...
22:24 < adig> I think I the flashing tool worked fine.
22:25 < adig> I remember using this to get started https://github.com/cpq/mdk
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22:27 < adig> Oh, and the xtensa compiler toolchain of course.
22:33 < klsrqm> thank you! i'm using micropython. i discovered the `rshell` package in pip which gives access to the REPL and allows me to copy / delete files; works really well
22:33 < klsrqm> managed to blink some leds :)
22:33 < klsrqm> next: making a LoRa doorbell. :) 
22:33 < klsrqm> thanks all for the help
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