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00:06 < thrig> especially on linux where getpw* might get hooked up to active directory and then randomly return NULL or whatever
00:07 < thrig> usually code will check a bunch of things (env so user can override, etc) and then hopefully blow up if nothing was found
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00:11 < AlaskanEmily> Interesting.
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00:12 < AlaskanEmily> According to the man pages, the fields of a passwd struct *can* be NULL, but it doesn't seem like this is actually the case on Linux or OpenBSD. In my code I'm checking both for NULL and for an empty string which I guess might be necessary if you can't handle empty values too.
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00:30 < AlaskanEmily> I guess a better question: In C, I want to reliably find the current user's (real-UID, not effect-UID user) home directory and username. Ideally I want the code to work between Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and Solaris, but if I do need to I can add special cases for any/all of those. Is getpwuid the best way to do that, and is there any reasonable fallback if it does fail beyond checking envvars?
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05:25 < jesselawtonnz> hi
05:26 < jesselawtonnz> when i'm compiling stuff i get this:
05:26 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
05:26 < jesselawtonnz> can anyone help??
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05:30 < jesselawtonnz> can anyone help??
05:30 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
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09:25 < jesselawtonnz> hi
09:25 < jesselawtonnz> anyone here?
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09:34 < IcePic> ENOPATIENCE
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10:11 < quinq> There are 700 people here, so I'd say yes
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15:31 < izder456> o/
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16:36 < dfdx> Hi #openbsd, sorry if this is a dumb question. I know relayd and pf work in tandem; but to use relayd, *must* pf be enabled and started?
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16:39 < sibiria> i've made too little use of relayd to know if it's a hard requirement on the whole, but if you want to use layer 3 redirection then you need pf to be running
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16:44 < dfdx> hmm... thanks. 
16:44 < dfdx> i am trying to setup relayd and i'm just feeling overwhelmed.
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16:49 < dfdx> basically, i want to host calibre-server, an ebook server that lets me read ebooks hosted on my machine via the browser. Its setup, and when i'm inside my network, I can navigate to http://192.168.1.78:8004 and read. But I'm trying to get this working with a domain I have: https://ebook.mydomain.com. I e-mailed openbsd-misc and someone suggested relayd. I'm wondering if this is actually what I need to 
16:49 < dfdx> configure -- would pf, by itself, be enough to do this?
16:50 < dfdx> one problem is that calibre-server doesn't use fastcgi, so I can't just use openbsd's httpd here. 
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16:50 < dfdx> calibre-server sets up its own http server.
16:57 < dfdx> like what I think I want is something like this pf rule: pass in on egress proto tcp from "https://ebook.mydomain.com" to any port 80 rdr-to 192.168.1.78 port 8004  
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16:58 < dfdx> but i don't know pf, either, so I don't even know if that makes sense.
16:59 < dfdx> actually, since I only have one machine, it would probably look like this: pass in on egress proto tcp from "https://ebook.mydomain.com" to any port 80 rdr-to 127.0.0.1 port 8004  
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18:07 < dfdx> So base httpd cannot do proxy pass at all. I guess relayd can, but it's difficult.
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18:15 < lts> Yes you need relayd for reverse proxying. There are plenty of guides for that, if (when) man relayd.conf is too complex to start with. If you're familiar with nginx, you can also just add that with pkg_add, and skip relayd
18:17 < dfdx> lts: really, plenty of guides? I have seriously spent hours and i am struggling to find anything that fits my use case. I even have and have read mwl's Http & Relayd Mastery. I can't figure it out at all how to apply it here.
18:17 < dfdx> is there any resource you could point me to? I don't mind reading.
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18:23 < lts> dfdx: the key words for search are "relayd" and "reverse proxy", which should find quite a lot. Eventually you're going to end up with something like this: https://bpa.st/DXNHBX3D2YFWR6YJVVPYRAHCJM
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18:24 < lts> If TLS is not required, remove the keypair line and change 443 lines to 80
18:25 < lts> (and remove tls from the 'listen on' line)
18:26 < dfdx> sure, i have seen relayd configs like this. but what about my httpd.conf? server "ebook.mydomain.com" { listen on * port 80 ... now what? what is my access point for "location"? location "/" ... what goes here? i can't find anything that ties these two together.
18:27 < lts> If calibre sets up its own http server, you don't use httpd at all
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18:28 < lts> Just use relayd to reverse proxy incoming connections to 127.0.0.1:8004
18:28 < dfdx> ahhh... 
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18:29 < dfdx> i totally get it now.
18:30 < dfdx> and I figure it out. that last bit helped clarify everything.
18:30 < lts> :-)
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18:30 < dfdx> i was trying to somehow have httpd and relayd "work together" somehow, where I had a section in httpd.conf for ebook.mydomain.com and another section for it in relayd.conf.
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18:31 < dfdx> but you're right. I just omit entirely the portions in httpd.conf for ebook.mydomain.com and relayd works!
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18:31 < dfdx> i was trying to do wacky things with "location" in httpd.conf. *sigh* I'm so dumb. this clarifyed everything. thanks again.
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19:26 < seninha> I was trying to continue an old project of writing a driver for xbox 360 wireless controller, as I have stated here a year ago: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=170266588606402&w=2
19:28 < seninha> But am giving up... Too much failure... Stefan war right on his presentation on EuroBSDcon 2017: you gonna fail a lot on the first driver...
19:28 < seninha> At least I know more of USB and HID than I ever wanted.
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19:35 < dfdx> lts: I lied. I didn't figure it out. fixing ebook.mydomain.com (with relayd) only breaks blog.mydomain.com (which is supported with httpd). TLS seems to be the culprit. My configs are here: https://bpa.st/IMV3O
19:36 < dfdx> The problem seems to be that either I can create a valid certificate for the entirety of mydomain.com, but creating an additional one just for ebook.mydomain.com seems to give me problems. I get no errors creating the certificate with acme-client and ocpscheck, but when I navigate to ebook.mydomain.com I get a warning in my browser giving me a SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN error. 
19:37 < jalf55> Hey all. Noob here. Trying to understand the best/most appropriate/recommended approach. I want to write a program that sends messages and listens to all responses over /var/run/vmd.sock, but my limited understanding of unix sockets is that if a second process reads from the socket, the message is "consumed". I've seen it suggested a better
19:37 < jalf55> approach would be to introduce a "replicator" which proxies requests to the socket on behalf of other processes (and creating a unique socket for each of them), and duplicates messages from /var/run/vmd.sock to each connecting processes own socket file. Is this best practice? Any suggestions on a better way to send and receive messages over
19:37 < jalf55> /var/run/vmd.sock without disrupting users using vmctl, or is my openbsd noob brain way off base here?
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21:24 < highplainsdruid> dfdx: only one or the other of relayd or httpd can be listening for connections on port 443.  use httpd to host the contents of blog.domain.com on, for example, localhost:8080.  then use relayd to reverse proxy tls connections looking for https:/blog.domain.com/ to localhost:8080
21:24 < highplainsdruid> i like some things about relayd but the configuration is confusing and in my opinion unnecessarily complex.  i prefer nginx
21:25 < highplainsdruid> the same above instructions would work with nginx or relayd
21:26 < whrl> Hey, I'm trying to setup a Matrix server with a TURN server on OpenBSD. Not really sure what I'm doing and I'm having problems installing coTURN. Is it even possible or recommended? I got Matrix Dendrite setup so far.
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21:29 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: ahh... hmm.... 
21:31 < dfdx> so suppose I have www.domain.com, img.domain.com, blog.domain.com, bkup.domain.com, and ebooks.domain.com (all web servers). I have httpd handle all domains except ebooks.domain.com, and serve those using localhost:8080. Then I have relayd to reverse proxy tls connections looking for those subdomains to localhost:8080. IN ADDITION, I also have relayd handle and serve ebook.domain.com (with its own separate 
21:31 < dfdx> tls certificate)?
21:32 < oldlaptop> What's relayd going to do to "handle and serve ebook.domain.com"?
21:33 < highplainsdruid> you're going to want to put each domain on its own port, so for example www on localhost:8080, img on localhost:8081, blog on localhost:8082, etc.  then have relayd handle all TLS certificates and forward incoming connections from www to localhost:8080, img to localhost:8081, etc
21:33 < dfdx> well, ebook.domain.com is served by calbre-server, which is an http server that does not use fastcgi (so I can't have it work with httpd). so I can have relayd "listen on ebook.domain.com port 443 tls" and forward to 127.0.0.1:8081, for example.
21:33 < oldlaptop> Aaaah, okay.
21:34 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: aha... 
21:34 < dfdx> so every domain has to be on its own port. is that something I can do with httpd? (I think so... i need to revisit httpd.conf(5), though, to make sure)
21:35 < highplainsdruid> yup, i did it that way for a long time before i switched to nginx
21:35 < highplainsdruid> i don't remember anymore why i switched but i needed the reverse proxy to do something i couldn't make relayd do, or couldn't figure out how to anyway
21:35  * oldlaptop wouldn't think it should be *necessary* to have different domains on different ports - vhosts have been a thing for a long time
21:35 < dfdx> yes, i am going through my own self-inflicted rite of passage right now, trying to only use base openbsd. because there is no proxy pass in httpd, it is extremely painful.
21:35 < dfdx> I don't know anything about vhosts. 
21:36 < highplainsdruid> i guess i never considered using vhosts in that application
21:37 < highplainsdruid> it's a worthy rite of passage
21:37 < highplainsdruid> i did so as long as i could
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21:38 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: can you give me an example of what your acme-client.conf looks like, then? like, you have separate sections for each subdomain? e.g., domain img.domain.com { domain key, domain certificate, etc... } domain blog.domain.com { domain key, domain certificate, etc... } domain bkup.domain.com { ... } domain ebooks.domain.com { ... }  
21:38 < dfdx> Like that?
21:39 < highplainsdruid> been a while since i set it up, let me take a peek, but i believe so
21:39 < highplainsdruid> yes, just like that
21:39 < dfdx> hmm... okay. this is an extremely helpful tip. I will try to make it work. 
21:40 < highplainsdruid> you can continue to use httpd to listen on port 80 for your acme-client stuff
21:40 < dfdx> and then i guess your relayd.conf must be very long, as it has sections to point ot each subdomain.
21:40 < highplainsdruid> let me see if i still have it.  you want some nightmare fuel....
21:40 < dfdx> but that is where it gets tricky. httpd listens on port 80 and redirects to port 443. what is the "location" I use in httpd.conf?
21:40 < dfdx> lol. i am living the nightmare right now!
21:41 < whrl> Sorry to disturb you guys, but I'm new to irc and I'm not sure if my messages can be seen yet. A quick confirmation would be great
21:42 < dfdx> whrl: i see you.
21:42 < whrl> dfdx: awesome. thx!
21:44 < whrl> Well, Imma just leave this here: if anyone has experience with setting up a matrix server or just a TURN server, any help/info would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
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21:44 < highplainsdruid> ok it doesn't have anything in there from when i was running synapse.  that was the nightmare fuel.  this is painful but not awful.  https://sundak.net/relayd.conf.txt
21:45 < highplainsdruid> i ran synapse for a while but never with a TURN server
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21:46 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: ah... this looks different than I expected. I was expecting it to look more like this example: https://jrswab.com/blog/how-to-install-synapse-on-openbsd
21:46 < dfdx> note its very similar, but it has the following
21:47 < dfdx> pass  request  quick  header  "Host"  value  "example.com"       forward  to  <httpd>
21:47 < dfdx> pass  request  quick  header  "Host"  value  "chat.example.com"  forward  to  <synapse>
21:47 < dfdx> (in addition to the separte forwards in the relay)
21:48 < highplainsdruid> it's been so long since i've set it up that i don't recall the specific logic behind my design decisions 
21:48 < dfdx> :) that's alright. this is still awesome. thanks alot.
21:48 < highplainsdruid> can't really comment knowledgeably about the presence or absence of such lines
21:48 < highplainsdruid> you're welcome
21:48 < dfdx> wait a sec. you're listening on some IP address.
21:49 < dfdx> how does relayd here determine where to relay too? 
21:50 < highplainsdruid> it's these lines in the protocol: match request header "Host" value "REDACTED.com" forward to <REDACTED>
21:50 < highplainsdruid> that is precisely why i hate relayd
21:50 < highplainsdruid> the config files are so bizarre
21:50 < dfdx> oooooohhhhh
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21:50 < dfdx> haha i think I get it now. let me play around with this. thank you!!
21:51 < highplainsdruid> you're welcom
21:51 < highplainsdruid> e
21:51 < whrl> highplainsdruid: ok, I tried installing coturn through openbsd ports, it gives an error about "requires correctly installed X11". Surely that's not something I want/need on my headless server?
21:51 < highplainsdruid> having never worked with coturn that's one i can't answer for you unfortunately.  does seem strange though
21:52 < whrl> ok, thanks anyways
21:53 < highplainsdruid> you're welcome.  good luck
21:53 < whrl> thx!
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21:58 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: i'm following your config and I understand 90% of it. do I need to worry about those "match tagged" lines? It seems like you're doing some specific things with subdirectories.
21:59 < dfdx> i'm guessing those are safe to ignore... I hope...
22:00 < highplainsdruid> you can probably ignore those
22:00 < highplainsdruid> what's going on there is i am redirecting subdirectories of a domain to different servers
22:00 < highplainsdruid> so someone requests domain.com/subdirectory/ and the request gets forwarded to another web server
22:01 < highplainsdruid> normally requests are forwarded unaltered, so a request for domain.com/subdirectory/file.txt gets forwarded to 10.0.0.1/subdirectory/file.txt
22:01 < dfdx> yup, understood. thanks.
22:02 < highplainsdruid> but if that server is something like your ebook reader, you don't want to request subdirectory/file.txt, you want to just request file.txt, so the strip removes /subdirectory from the request
22:03 < highplainsdruid> setting the X-Forwarded-Prefix lets the ebook server (or whatever) put links that work on the page.  it prepends that header to all the links so they work for the user
22:04 < highplainsdruid> this needs to be supported by whatever server is running, it won't automagically happen
22:04 < highplainsdruid> in my case these are python/flask web applications
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22:10 < dfdx> you are being very kind with your time, explaining this to me. thank you.
22:17 < systemdsucks> no new snapshots for a week
22:17 < systemdsucks> maybe we are closing to release
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22:20 < highplainsdruid> mid oct to early nov probably
22:27 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: i think I am stuck. how in httpd.conf do I set the port? e.g., for blog.domain.com, I have a "server" section that listens on port 80 for the acme-challenge and then "block return"s to blog.domain.com port 443. then I have a second "server" section for "blog.domain.com" where I "listen on * tls port 443". 
22:27 < dfdx> but in relayd.conf, I need this blog.domain.com to point to port 8081, for example.
22:29 < dfdx> I do include the port in the block return when I listen on port 80?
22:31 < highplainsdruid> just replace 'listen on * tls port 443' with 'listen on localhost port 8081'
22:33 < dfdx> I did that. but all I get when I browse to my URL now is: ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE
22:34 < dfdx> i.e., the website didn't send any data. I get no errors when I run httpd -n or relayd -n. 
22:34 < dfdx> let me share my confs.
22:35 < klsrqm> i  might be misreading it but shouldn't it be the other way around? so: internet --> port 80 --> relayd redirects internet port 80 to lolcal port 8081 --> httpd listens on 8081?
22:35 < dfdx> klsrqm: yes but there is tls port 443 to worry about.
22:35 < highplainsdruid> we're doing ssl so internet -> port 443 -> relayd tls -> local port 8081 -> httpd listening on 8081
22:35 < klsrqm> and httpd isn't serving up ssl?
22:36 < klsrqm> so is relayd handling TLS?
22:36 < highplainsdruid> we don't want it to with this setup
22:36 < highplainsdruid> correct
22:36 < klsrqm> ah ok. will be interested in the confs
22:36 < dfdx> oohhh
22:36 < dfdx> nvm... I need to update the tls conf lines in httpd.
22:36 < dfdx> maybe I need to do that.
22:37 < klsrqm> dfdx: you don't need httpd to serve any tls at all actually
22:37 < klsrqm> relayd can handle the ssl. 
22:38 < klsrqm> you can run httpd on 8081 without ssl, and then you can add a tls accelerator
22:39 < klsrqm> actually there is such an example in the relayd.conf(5) manpage
22:39 < dfdx> if this doesn't work I might look into that...
22:40 < dfdx> yeah... it didn't work.
22:40  * dfdx sighs
22:40 < klsrqm> it's going to work out, don't worry :) 
22:40 < dfdx> also, i'm now getting "acme-client: https://acme-v02.api.letsencrypt.org/acme/new-order: bad HTTP: 429" when I run acme-client on one of my subdomains -- ironically ebook.domain.com, the one i was trying to figure out in the beginning!
22:41 < highplainsdruid> post those confs
22:42 < klsrqm> btw i don't know if this helps at all but I wrote something on reverse-proxying with relayd for gemini: gemini://vigilia.cc/?p=gemlog/2024/2024-08-16%20Gemini%20reverse-proxying%20with%20OpenBSD%20and%20relayd.gmi
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23:00 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: sorry this took so long.
23:00 < dfdx> here is my httpd.conf: https://bpa.st/KREHA
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23:02 < highplainsdruid> you're going to want to remove all references to tls in httpd.conf as relayd is now handling that
23:02 < klsrqm> what i'd do is not have httpd listen on 443 at all. 
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23:03 < klsrqm> only relayd should listen on 443, and then forward to the appropriate httpd 808x pors
23:03 < highplainsdruid> yes
23:03 < klsrqm> and yes, remove tls directives from httpd.conf
23:03 < klsrqm> httpd serves plain HTTP, relayd adds the TLS magic
23:04 < dfdx> this is my relayd.conf, btw: https://bpa.st/R3MVI
23:04 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: ahh....
23:05 < klsrqm> i think if you remove the tls directives and the 443 port from httpd, it should work
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23:06 < dfdx> okay, at least I now get an Internal Server Error coming from relayd (which is red).
23:06 < dfdx> that is an improvement.
23:06 < dfdx> so I should get rid of all the port 80 sections in httpd.conf, as well, I guess?
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23:08 < klsrqm> if you want serve up cleartext HTTP on 80, you can leave it in
23:08 < klsrqm> it shouldn't clash
23:08 < klsrqm> basically you want httpd to not do any tls/ssl
23:08 < highplainsdruid> dfdx: try this https://sundak.net/newhttpd.conf.txt
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23:09 < highplainsdruid> you can dramatically simplify your http -> https redirection and your acme-client conf portions
23:09 < dfdx> and here is my acme-client.conf: https://bpa.st/XM5GO
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23:10 < klsrqm> dfdx: why don't you use a wildcard certificate for *.domain.com?
23:10 < highplainsdruid> oh i forgot to put "default" in quotes, file fixed now
23:11 < klsrqm> hope it works out fine! i've gotta go and catch some sleep now...
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23:12 < highplainsdruid> relayd.conf looks good.  your ebook line is commented out if you missed that but the configuration looks good
23:13 < highplainsdruid> in my acme-client.conf i only have     domain key "/etc/ssl/private/domain.com.key"     and     domain full chain certificate "/etc/ssh/domain.com.crt"
23:14 < highplainsdruid> i'm not sure what difference separating out the full chain makes or doesn't
23:14 < dfdx> omg.
23:14 < dfdx> that worked.
23:14 < dfdx> not for the ebooks, but everything else works this way.
23:15 < highplainsdruid> woo!
23:15 < dfdx> highplainsdruid: you don't have "alternative names" set up in acme-conf like I do/
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23:15 < dfdx> ?
23:15 < dfdx> (in the commented out section)
23:15 < dfdx> what you're saying is I should comment out the rest and uncomment the commented out portion.
23:15 < klsrqm> \o/
23:15 < highplainsdruid> no i don't have anything like your commented out section in there
23:15 < highplainsdruid> yo ucan leave that commented
23:17 < highplainsdruid> https://sundak.net/acme-client.conf.txt
23:17 < highplainsdruid> i'm not sure if the difference between yours and mine matters
23:17 < highplainsdruid> your acme-client.conf is probably fine
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23:21 < dfdx> I am having a very weird problem with my relayd.conf.
23:21 < dfdx> here is my conf: https://bpa.st/G2IKM
23:22 < dfdx> this comment, as I posted it, works fine and gives me no errors when I run # relayd -n.
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23:22 < dfdx> but when I uncomment the last three comments, relating to ebooks, I get the following error: 
23:22 < dfdx> /etc/relayd.conf:54: syntax error                                                                          
23:22 < dfdx> /etc/relayd.conf:60: no such protocol: wwwtls   
23:22 < dfdx> am I doing something wrong?
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23:23 < dfdx> I think it is because I can't generate an ebooks.domain.io crt and fullchain.pem.
23:24 < dfdx> (i keep getting an error when I run acme-client for this specific subdomain... I don't know why.)
23:24 < highplainsdruid> something about the tls keypair
23:24 < highplainsdruid> what's the acme-client error?
23:25 < dfdx> i am rushing.
23:25 < dfdx> I just f'ed up in a bad way.
23:25 < dfdx> I just rm * in /etc/ssl. and i now have no cert.pem anymore. fml.
23:25 < dfdx> i need to step away.
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23:27 < dfdx> is this a "reinstall openbsd" kind of error?
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23:30 < highplainsdruid> probably not
23:31 < highplainsdruid> https://sundak.net/cert.pem
23:32 < highplainsdruid> chown root:bin /etc/ssl/cert.pem      chmod 0444 /etc/ssl/cert.pem
23:33 < dfdx> I cannot wget or curl that becuase i cannot verify the issuers authority :(
23:33 < dfdx> # curl https://sundak.net/cert.pem
23:33 < dfdx> curl: (77) error setting certificate verify locations:  CAfile: /etc/ssl/cert.pem CApath: none
23:33 < highplainsdruid> use a different machine to download the file?
23:34 < dfdx> okay, done. phew.
23:35 < dfdx> with the acme-client.conf you provided, it conflicts with what you provided with the relayd.conf, which has tls keypairs with all your various domains -- not one single one.
23:39 < highplainsdruid> yeah i dramatically simplified that conf
23:39 < highplainsdruid> they're all the same just different domains
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