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01:32 < jesselawtonnz> please help when i try to build programs, e.g. st this happens
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> jesse@openbsd ~/source/suckless/st % make
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> st build options:
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> ^CDeep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 329.
01:32 < jesselawtonnz> Out of memory!
01:33 < jesselawtonnz> CFLAGS  = -I/usr/X11R6/include     -DVERSION="0.9" -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600 -DVERSION="0.9" -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600 -D_BSD_SOURCE -O2 -pipe
01:33 < jesselawtonnz> *** Signal SIGINT in /home/jesse/source/suckless/st (options)
01:33 < jesselawtonnz> jesse@openbsd ~/source/suckless/st %
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01:40 < jesselawtonnz> djames: could you help me?
01:41 < djames> jesselawtonnz: with what?
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> this
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> jesse@openbsd ~/source/suckless/st % doas make clean install
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> doas (jesse@openbsd.fritz.box) password:
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> rm -f st st.o x.o st-0.9.tar.gz
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> cc -I/usr/X11R6/include  `pkg-config --cflags fontconfig`  `pkg-config --cflags freetype2` -DVERSION=\"0.9\" -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600 -DVERSION=\"0.9\" -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600 -D_BSD_SOURCE -O2 -pipe  -c st.c
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> ^CDeep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 331.
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> Deep recursion on subroutine "main::handle_config" at /usr/bin/pkg-config line 329.
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> ^C *** st.o removed
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> *** Signal SIGINT in /home/jesse/source/suckless/st (st.o)
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> it happens when compiling
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> idk why
01:42 < phy1729> jesselawtonnz: use a pastebin next time please
01:42 < jesselawtonnz> sorry
01:43 < phy1729> I'd look at the x11/st port and see what it does
01:43 < jesselawtonnz> its not only st, it seems to be any program that i'm compiling thats calling pkgconfig
01:44 < mischief> what if you just run pkg-config by hand
01:44 < jesselawtonnz> i don't really know about it, what arguments?
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01:47 < mischief> maybe pkg-config --cflags --libs x11
01:47 < mischief> well okay, st doesn't quite use that, but you can look in config.mk to see what it does
01:48 < jesselawtonnz> https://paste.sr.ht/~jesselawtonnz/40a443b751d771b2425caba43a12149e0883122d
01:48 < mischief> in fact there's a comment in config.mk that says what should happen on openbsd :)
01:48 < jesselawtonnz> thats the output, but the *problem* is thats it seems to be anything calling pkgconfig
01:48 < jesselawtonnz> i've uncommented it
01:48 < jesselawtonnz> thanks though
01:49 < mischief> works on my machine
01:49 < mischief> try `gmake CC=cc`
01:49 < jesselawtonnz> it used to work :(
01:50 < mischief> (openbsd make is not gnu make)
01:50 < jesselawtonnz> ik, doesn't work with gmake CC=egcc
01:50 < jesselawtonnz> oops
01:50 < jesselawtonnz> i meant to do cc
01:51 < jesselawtonnz> yeah doesn't work on ethier
01:51 < jesselawtonnz> would there be any way to fix it because i use openbsd as a desktop and i kinda need to fix it
01:52 < mischief> try xterm? :)
01:53 < jesselawtonnz> i use suckless software haha, but i need to compile a fair bit
01:53 < jesselawtonnz> and i can't compile stuff at *all*
01:55 < jesselawtonnz> any suggestions of where to ask for help?
01:55 < mischief> mailing list
01:56 < jesselawtonnz> how do i use those? sorry i'm new lol
01:58 < mischief> the openbsd website has a lot of information, including about the mailing lists
01:59 < mischief> https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
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02:00 < jesselawtonnz> ok, thanks do i just send an email to misc@openbsd.org or do i have to subscribe to it?
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02:01 < mischief> probably subscribe, but i'm not sure (i'm subscribed)
02:02 < jesselawtonnz> k, whats the address for subscring to misc?
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02:04 < jesselawtonnz> nvm, i found the web interface for lists.openbsd.org
02:04 < mischief> did you read that link at all
02:05 < jesselawtonnz> not all of it sorry
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11:48 < ham5urg> How to start the installer if not invoked at first prompting?
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11:49 < ham5urg> I played with the shell but can't find the command to start the autoinstaller. Is there something like a debootstrap or Voids rootfs tarball?
11:54 < IcePic> one could just reboot, but running "install" should run the installer again if you chose shell
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11:56 < ham5urg> I just installed it but got  no O/S. Does the installer install a bootloader or do I need to install it manually?
12:00 < ham5urg> Maybe it was GPT layout and my virt-manager does not handle it.
12:02 < ham5urg> Tried it with MBR but got the same result, Using drive 0, partition 3. No O/S
12:02 < ham5urg> Boot from CD works, installation seems ok. But the reboot fails.
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12:03 < ham5urg> Does the installer expect bios or efi?
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12:11 < IcePic> ham5urg: I think it handles both, at least if you choose gpt partitioning if you get the option
12:12 < ham5urg> IcePic, I tried it with BIOS+GPT and BIOS+MBR and EFI+GPT. When the installer echoes the partition scheme, I can't find a EFI partition. Is this right?
12:14 < IcePic> bios+mbr should definitely work
12:14 < IcePic> I think efi might require gpt, so that should have worked, but I am not equally certain of it.
12:15 < ham5urg> Does the non-cd-rom-kernel support virtio harddisks? The cdrom-kernel does it though.
12:16 < sibiria> EFI wants GPT, but the installer will handle all of it for you - including creating the ESP and putting the EFI bootstrap there
12:16 < sibiria> best if you boot the full installer, or the miniroot and have network available
12:16 < IcePic> the installed kernel will handle virtio disks, that is how almost all VMs get their disks
12:17 < IcePic> virtio2 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "Qumranet Virtio Storage" rev 0x00
12:17 < IcePic> vioblk0 at virtio2
12:17 < IcePic> scsibus1 at vioblk0: 1 targets
12:17 < IcePic> sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <VirtIO, Block Device, >
12:20 < ham5urg> Installation is very fast but I always end up with the mentioned error. Is there a way I can boot from CD and put the terminal on serial console?
12:20 < ham5urg> So I can post the partition scheme.
12:21 < sibiria> are you editing the disklabel manually, and perhaps removing (or forgetting) the MSDOS partition label "i"?
12:21 < sibiria> because that's the ESP
12:21 < sibiria> it needs to stay there or EFI won't work
12:22 < IcePic> when the boot> prompt comes up, typing "set tty com0" should turn it into a serial console, from https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SerCon
12:22 < IcePic> that entry says "add to boot.conf" but that is just to save on typing, boot.conf is read by the boot> loader 
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12:24 < IcePic> ..if it is there, which it isn't on a newly installed system
12:25 < ham5urg> I will try it again in 2 or 3h.
12:26 < sibiria> typical fresh install using the entire disk is done by telling the installer to use GPT, then accept or edit the auto-layout, removing everything but the "i" label, and then adding the ones you want
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12:27 < sibiria> when you tell the installer to use the entire disk with GPT it will create one ESP to facilitate EFI boot, then a second primary partition which all of openbsd goes into
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12:28 < IcePic> a good hint is to run with the defaults the first few times, especially on VMs where you can just rebuild later if need be
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12:49 < michel> is there anywhere a howto for using ldapd ? 
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12:52 < IcePic> michel: which part are you stuck on? ldap as a protocol/database it kind of weird in itself
12:53 < michel> I would like to run ldapd as userdb for other openbsd systems
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12:57 < IcePic> michel: perhaps this could help you get started https://serverfault.com/questions/1107409/setting-up-ldapd-service-on-openbsd 
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12:58 < michel> yes, thx
13:00 < IcePic> I guess client boxes gets to have login_ldap setup, or ypldap in order to consume ldap data
13:00 < IcePic> still, reading up on ldap as a concept might be worth while, since ldap is strange in itself, so learning that at the same time as setting up inter-host ldap auth might be tough
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13:01 < michel> What do you recommend, Its been 25 yeas since I last used YP ode nis+ on Solaris 
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13:01 < sibiria> must've been 25 really nice years. sorry to hear you're being pulled back in
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13:02 < RobbieAB> login_ldap might be an alternative which avoids the need to YP/NIS
13:02 < RobbieAB> ?
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13:04 < michel> @sibiria :) been using puppet ever since, but since version 5 and java I gave up on it 
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13:22 < miah> i've had really good luck with ldap for auth in all the places i've set it up
13:23 < miah> openssh can even fetch authorized_keys directly from ldap
13:23 < miah> which may or may not be great depending on your environment; in the corp envs i've rolled this out in its been great though =)
13:24 < miah> (AuthorizedKeysCommand in sshd config is the magic here)
13:25 < phy1729> Do you have a new attribute just for keys or do you put the keys in an existing field?
13:25 < miah> a new attribute
13:25 < miah> here is the command tool i used: https://github.com/glauth/goklp
13:27 < phy1729> For the command itself I just did   e,dc=org" -s base '(objectClass=*)' authorizedKeys | sed '/^authorizedKeys: /!d;s///'
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13:27 < miah> i havent verified this doc, but it looks pretty close to how i've done it http://pig.made-it.com/ldap-openssh.html
13:28 < phy1729> :/ not sure what happened there  ldapsearch -LLL -o ldif-wrap=no -H -l 3 'ldap://ldap.example.org' -x -b "uid=$1,ou=People,dc=example,dc=org" -s base '(objectClass=*)' authorizedKeys | sed '/^authorizedKeys: /!d;s///'
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15:16 < amnesiac> Hi
15:16 < amnesiac> anybody using easyrsa on current ?
15:17 < amnesiac> updated to new snapshot and it says unsupported SSL Library : 4 
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15:23 < vortexx> amnesiac: probably you hit ports churn
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15:24 < amnesiac> vortexx, yeah
15:24 < amnesiac> how to fix this ?
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15:31 < ham5urg> Why do I get "syncing disks...10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10  giving up" ?
15:32 < ham5urg> "dump to dev 17,1 not possible"
15:32 < ham5urg> I partitioned it this way https://termbin.com/scf1
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15:32 < vortexx> amnesiac: wait for a new snapshot plus for easyrsa to get version bumped I guess
15:33 < amnesiac> oh
15:33 < amnesiac> ok
15:34 < vortexx> ham5urg: are you booting EFI or MBR? Because you're using MBR layout there and it's possible that's the issue for your VM
15:35 < vortexx> (this is still virt-manager so qemu+kvm right?)
15:35 < ham5urg> Here is a more complete output https://termbin.com/zc9y
15:35 < vortexx> I've never seen that error though
15:35 < ham5urg> vortexx, yes, libvirt+qemu with BIOS-vm.
15:36 < vortexx> oh the install crashed. Maybe your underlying hw is dying?
15:36 < ham5urg> No way
15:36 < vortexx> (check the disk with smartmontools and memtest86 for am)
15:37 < ham5urg> There are many other processes running
15:37 < ham5urg> I will see
15:37 < vortexx> the installer hardly ever dies like that, it's hw problems 95% of the time
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15:37 < vortexx> (OpenBSD is rather good at triggering any existing issues)
15:37 < ham5urg> Maybe I tinkered with the HW settings in the virt-manager gui.
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15:38 < vortexx> you can just use the OpenBSD template virt-manager provides, I've had good luck with that
15:39 < amnesiac> vortexx, i prefer to install current on vmd and build ca there.
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15:39 < amnesiac> i mean stable
15:40 < vortexx> amnesiac: should work
15:41 < vortexx> amnesiac: 7.6 hasn't been released yet even on CVS, it's still in -beta
15:41 < vortexx> (I'm waiting for this too)
15:43 < amnesiac> vortexx, understood
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15:43 < amnesiac> thank you for thoughts
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15:46 < vortexx> you're welcome
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15:52 < ham5urg> vortexx, I checked with smartctl -a and got a 'PASSED' as result.
15:53 < ham5urg> If it would be the disk, I got other systems failing too. I think about a misconfig in virt-manager.
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16:00 < ham5urg> I get an 'cannot open cd0a:/etc/random.seed: No such file or directory' at the beginning.
16:00 < vortexx> ham5urg: well that's good, try deleting the VM and reinstalling using the OpenBSD 7.5 template
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16:00 < vortexx> (which uses BIOS boot)
16:00 < vortexx> (so that at least means you can hit enter on most questions including disk layout)
16:00 < ham5urg> Yes, I did that already. No change. I'm on Voidlinux.
16:01 < vortexx> let me try on my laptop
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16:04 < vortexx> oh wow I get exactly the crash you get using the install75.iso and OpenBSD 7.5 layout
16:04 < vortexx> let me try with network
16:05 < ham5urg> Huh, now I'm feeling better :D
16:05 < vortexx> weird that no one else ran into this since 7.5 release
16:08 < vortexx> ok try doing it with http as the sets source, that works without crashing
16:08 < vortexx> there appears to be an issue with the install75.iso
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16:12 < vortexx> I'm going to try install74.iso to see if it has the same issue
16:12 < ham5urg> ok
16:15 < sibiria> this feels familiar
16:15 < sibiria> openbsd is a bit finicky. you need to spec the qemu vm in a certain way for everything to work
16:16 < vortexx> the virtual cd drive shouldn't crap out like that though
16:17 < sibiria> what i do is spec drives with:  -drive file=install75.img,format=raw -drive file=maindisk.img,format=qcow2
16:17 < sibiria> and network, something like:  -device virtio-net-device,netdev=net -netdev user,id=net
16:17 < vortexx> 7.4 gives the same atapi issues
16:18 < vortexx> but then it uses an IDE CDROM drive
16:18 < vortexx> let's try with a S-ATA one
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16:21 < vortexx> looks like using S-ATA cdrom works. The virt-manager template is using too old a config I guess
16:22 < vortexx> especially as OpenBSD can boot UEFI, doesn't have to do BIOS boot
16:24 < sibiria> imo easier to just boot the raw install image or the miniroot. cdrom thingy and cdrom emulation is very legacy
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16:25 < vortexx> very indeed, most users use the install75.img but the virt-manager setup manager likes to prompt for isos 
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16:25 < vortexx> ham5urg: so try with http as source for the sets and you should be fine
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16:26 < ham5urg> vortexx, yes, already finished and tinkering with openbsd. Thank god, neovim is available 
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16:26 < vortexx> we have just about all the open source software out there available in packages luckily
16:27 < ham5urg> I installed via com0, now I would like to reactivate graphical console. But how? I would like to keep the serial as well.
16:28 < ham5urg>  /etc/ttys is the correct place? "console" is the graphical console?
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16:31 < vortexx> ham5urg: vi /etc/boot.conf and remove the console instructions
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16:31 < sibiria> rcctl enable xenodm; rcctl start xenodm (or reboot if you haven't told qemu you want S/VGA periphreal)
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16:33 < vortexx> and yes the "console" entry in /etc/ttys enables or disables the graphical console iirc
16:35 < ham5urg> Aha, I need to change 'console "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   vt220   off secure' to on and add a line in boot.conf to add a graphical beside a serial terminal?
16:36 < ham5urg> Wait is ttyC0 already the one I want?
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16:36 < vortexx> correct it's ttyC0 not console
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16:37 < ham5urg> Do I add all 6 to boot.conf?
16:38 < sibiria> i don't think you need to change anything there
16:39 < sibiria> my headless system (installed with "no i don't expect to run xenodm") and my desktop openbsd system (installed with "yes") have identical /etc/ttys configs
16:39 < vortexx> I don't think that's needed, if you have serial console configured in /etc/boot.conf your dmesg will appear at the serial console on boot but if the kernel finds the graphical console it enables automagically those 
16:39 < ham5urg> While installing I used serial, now I'm stucked with it. No prompt on graphical console.
16:39 < Bradipo> You can unstuck it.
16:40 < sibiria> i.e. console and ttyC4 (the graphical console by default) are both "off"
16:40 < vortexx> then remove the console entries in /etc/boot.conf
16:40 < ham5urg> No, I don't want that. I would like to have both.
16:41 < ham5urg> If possible.
16:41 < sibiria> ttyC4 does not need to be "on" for xenodm/x to provide graphical output
16:41 < sibiria> in fact, it should be off so that it *can* occupy that console instead of putting a tty there
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16:42 < sibiria> i'll repeat just in case you decide to read:  my openbsd desktop system's /etc/ttys has "console" and ttyC4 set to off
16:42 < sibiria> and nothing in boot.conf
16:43 < vortexx> you can't have the boot prompt on both graphical or serial, it's one or the other. Turning off serial at the boot prompt doesn't remove the serial console once the OS is booted
16:44 < ham5urg> I understand. I did not tinkered with /etc/ttys but I can't login via graphical terminal. Just serial. Within serial I can start X.
16:44 < sibiria> did you: rcctl enable xenodm
16:44 < ham5urg> *I can't
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16:44 < ham5urg> sibiria, no
16:44 < sibiria> ok, why not?
16:44 < sibiria> because i'm sure i've told you to 14 times by now
16:45 < ham5urg> I like to start X from the console.
16:45 < sibiria> ...
16:45 < sibiria> xenodm is openbsd's way to use x.org 
16:45 < sibiria> like it or not
16:45 < ham5urg> okay
16:45 < Bradipo> Well, "startx" isn't actually supported anymore.  It might work if you try it though.
16:45 < ham5urg> let me try
16:45 < sibiria> enable xenodm and either reboot or: rcctl start xenodm
16:47 < ham5urg> "xf86OpenConsole: No console driver found" , the virtual GPU is QXL. Should I switch to virtio?
16:48 < sibiria> with qemu i think the only thing that works between it and openbsd is standard vga
16:48 < sibiria> but i say that not having poked around too much with using qemu for desktop stuff
16:48 < sibiria> so you can do for example: -vga std
16:49 < ham5urg> ok
16:50 < sibiria> -vga -vmware (svga) might work, too
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16:56 < ham5urg> Where does netcat hide? Is there a way to index the repository to find a file within?
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16:57 < Bradipo> ham5urg: You mean nc(1) ?
16:57 < Bradipo> It's part of base.
16:58 < ham5urg> au, I didn't checked it. My fail.
16:59 < Oddmonger> didn't knew nc was default installed
17:00 < Oddmonger> at least, it's not gnu-netcat :þ
17:01 < quinq> ham5urg, it's possible to do so
17:01 < quinq> IIRC there's somethink like a make search command
17:01 < quinq> Theres' also pkglocatedb
17:02 < quinq> And several online web tools for that (like https://openports.pl/)
17:03 < Bradipo> No, it's BSD nc(1): http://man.openbsd.org/nc
17:03 < quinq> (apology for fingers)
17:03 < Bradipo> Looks like there may be bug in the name section...
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17:03 < Bradipo> I'm not sure what "nc - arbitrary TCP and UDP connections and listens" means...
17:03 < Bradipo> Perhaps it is missing the word "opens "
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17:04 < Bradipo> Or "connects "
17:04 < quinq> Those are just words, implying it manages those
17:04 < quinq> s/words/nouns/
17:04 < Bradipo> Yeah, or maybe it's just fine.
17:04 < ham5urg> I try to start X (via xenodm) but get https://termbin.com/twwn Do I need to install an extra package for VGA (kvm)?
17:04 < quinq> I agree it's a bit lazy description though
17:05 < Bradipo> Well, the description does say "can open TCP connections, send UDP packets, listen on aribtrary ..."
17:05 < Bradipo> Maybe the NAME just cannot be improved much.
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17:05 < Bradipo> So not worth the effort.
17:07 < quinq> GNU one says “netcat - GNU Netcat Manual” :D
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17:10 < vortexx> ham5urg: I use virtio, not qxl. Works fine including for gnome
17:10 < ham5urg> ok, I will try.
17:13 < ham5urg> My virt-manager video-xml: https://termbin.com/xc78
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17:28 < ham5urg> Had to reinstall. When no serial console is activated at installation boot prompt, then after installation X starts. With serial console at installation activated I get https://termbin.com/twwn
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17:44 < quinq> Hummm
17:44 < quinq> Is there a way to get timestamping on the dmesg?
17:49 < Bradipo> less /var/log/messages ?
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17:53 < quinq> Well, there's a bit of *everything* in there
17:53 < quinq> Are all kernel messages prefixed by the kernel binary name?
17:53 < quinq> I can see "/bsd:" in there
17:53 < Bradipo> Good question...
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17:54 < quinq> Hummm, looks like it yeah
17:54 < quinq> Thanks Bradipo :)
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20:13 < ham5urg> I installed kde and kde-plasma and further I went to https://openports.pl/path/meta/kde,-plasma and added ~/.xinitrc as described there. But KDE does not start when logging in. What do I have to do?
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20:18 < jcs> are you logging in through xenodm?
20:18 < ham5urg> yes
20:18 < jcs> it should be .xsession for that, .xinitrc is used by startx
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20:23 < ham5urg> I moved it from xinitrc to xsession. Now I can't login. A short flicker and I land at the xenodm login. Which is the log file I need to watch?
20:23 < jcs> ~/.xsession-errors
20:24 < ham5urg> mmmh, it's empty
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20:26 < sibiria> exec <plasma thing>?
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20:27 < vortexx> plasma requires wayland doesn't it? pkg_add wayland and follow the pkg-readme for it?
20:28 < smol-hors> openbsd has wayland now? :o
20:28 < smol-hors> so it seems!
20:28 < vortexx> has since 7.5
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20:30 < klsrqm> it does! i gave it a go earlier, it worked OK!
20:30 < brynet> vortexx: no
20:30 < ham5urg> I switched the terminal via ctrl+alt+f2 and logged in as user. Run a exec kontact and get kicked out from the shell. But I got an error-message. 'could not connect to display' 'Could not load the platform plugin xcb in "" even though it was found.
20:30 < klsrqm> i mean, with caveats -- i couldn't figure out how to get my laptop's trackpad to work as i want it to; i know how to do it in xenodm but not wayland...
20:31 < klsrqm> (but i was using sway so sorry, cannot help with plasma)
20:33 < ham5urg> My error is pretty much the same as I found here https://forum.qt.io/topic/122875/error-qt-qpa-xcb-could-not-connect-to-display
20:34 < brynet> kde-plasma port works with X, wayland is still WEP.
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20:34 < ham5urg> But I'm not remotely connected to my virtual machine
20:35 < brynet> I installed plasma on my thinkpad recently, if you follow the pkgreadme it works.
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20:35 < brynet> https://brynet.ca/article-l13gen2.html
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20:39 < ham5urg> I did as in https://openports.pl/path/meta/kde,-plasma but to no avail. Do I need to install a package beside kde and kde-plasma
20:40 < brynet> Did you replace ${LOCALBASE} with /usr/local? That happens in the installed pkgreadme, but not on openports.pl.
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20:46 < ham5urg> How to read the installed pkgreadme?
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20:47 < brynet> less /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/kde-plasma
20:48 < ham5urg> thanks
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21:14 < ham5urg> This was a great openbsd exploring. Thanks all.
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