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04:23 < ssm> non-technical question, what font you all use? I've tried go-fonts, spleen, dejavu sans mono, though I've yet to find one I really jive with
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04:29 < lts> I really like Fira and Roboto families, and Ubuntu Mono. Keep in mind how font appearance will vary significantly depending on your antialiasing etc. settings
04:31 < lucas> ssm: I tried lots of fonts along my way. I always end up going back to DejaVu Sans Mono.
04:32 < lucas> the only two fonts that survived a significant amount of time were misc fixed and IBM Plex family
04:34 < ssm> lucas: I'm trying ibm plex medium right now, it's pretty nice
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04:38 < ssm> yeah I think I'm gonna live with this for a while, good recommendation
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04:49 < mischief> ssm: xterm*faceName:           DejaVuSansMono:Medium:pixelsize=24
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05:06 < ssm> mischief: so small... I need my massive 12 point font
05:06 < ssm> also using pixelsize for line fonts is weird
05:07 < ssm> except for the fonts here https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/fontlist/ which aren't distributed as bitmaps for some reason
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05:36 < Albright> My current fave is Iosevka Fixed
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05:42 < IcePic> ssm: I even use spleen outside of openbsd, I like it for coding
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05:56 < michel> Good morning, I have an OSPF issue, if I say no redistrubute 88.xx.xxx.xx at the top of the config, it will still be announced 
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05:58 < mischief> ssm: im no font expert, i just put some shit in there and accepted it, but you asked :-)
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10:12 < thalos> I have written a small test program to increase the number of allowed open files using setrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, ...). If I set this to for example 8000, the soft/hard limit will still be set to 7030 which is fine. I think it's some limit set in the kernel. But if I start opening files now, I get errno Too many open files in system after 6876 open files. Including the already open fd's (stdin, stdout, 
10:12 < thalos> stderr, CWD) this is not the limit that the kernel told me I have. Anyone know what's going on?
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10:33 < mischief> thalos: maybe worth writing to the mailing list, with your actual program source code
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10:43 < thalos> mischief: Was considering it but I gave this a shot forst since it's probably something obvious I'm missing
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10:48 < tercaL> Under OpenBSD 7.5, I did syspatch and 4 patches was installed: 007-expat, 008-nfs, 009-readdir and 010-elf. However, the last message is: Relinking to create unique kernel... failed! !!! "/usr/libexec/reorder_kernel" must be run manually to install the new kernel
10:49 < tercaL> I'd like to know why this happened and if manually running '/usr/libexec/reorder_kernel' solves this? I'm afraid to reboot the server now.
10:53 < sibiria> did you reconfigure your kernel?
10:54 < sibiria> or did you alter the checksum of it in order to disable at-boot relinking?
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10:55 < sibiria> what do you get from: sha256 -C /var/db/kernel.SHA256 /bsd
10:56 < tercaL> sibiria: (SHA256) /bsd: FAILED
10:57 < tercaL> did you reconfigure your kernel? - no. did you alter the checksum of it in order to disable at-boot relinking?: I think no, not really sure.
10:57 < sibiria> and what does this say: sha256 -C /var/db/kernel.SHA256 /bsd.booted
10:57 < tercaL> sha256: /bsd.booted does not exist in /var/db/kernel.SHA256
10:58 < sibiria> right, check it manually
10:58 < sibiria> sha256 /bsd.booted; cat /var/db/kernel.SHA256
10:59 < tercaL> SHA256 (/bsd.booted) = c1a414ea21efcd21ddba7390b90126cea4b14b5a0202ec3a60583c31a4f10050
10:59 < tercaL> SHA256 (/bsd) = 571d131ec1f7bc4f97d82d04458fe25262f42fa0f72921530497355fcec2e986
10:59 < sibiria> is /bsd significantly smaller than /bsd.booted? if so, do you happen to have very little RAM and no swap memory?
10:59 < tercaL> 25.3M Apr 11 03:22 bsd* - AND - 25.3M Apr 11 03:22 bsd.booted*
10:59 < sibiria> very little being... 512mb
11:00 < tercaL> Both have exact size: 26539729
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11:00 < sibiria> that does kinda sound like a reconfigured kernel, but...
11:00 < tercaL> 16 GB of ram, 2 GB in use and  0K swap out of 30G
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11:00 < sibiria> you can make a copy of bsd and bsd.booted, then relink manually and see what happens
11:01 < tercaL> sibiria: cloning bsd and bsd.booted into some path and executing /usr/libexec/reorder_kernel ?
11:01 < sibiria> yeah. give them some rememberable name just in case you want to have a look at (or try them) later
11:02 < tercaL> or not really "some path" but in /, like cp bsd /bsd1 and cp bsd.booted /bsd.booted1
11:02 < sibiria> cp -p but yes
11:03 < tercaL> Done, and ran /usr/libexec/reorder_kernel, no output.
11:04 < sibiria> which means it succeeded
11:04 < sibiria> now /bsd should match kernel.SHA256
11:04 < tercaL> sha256 -C /var/db/kernel.SHA256 /bsd - (SHA256) /bsd: FAILED
11:05 < IcePic> also the "afraid to reboot" is probably misplaced. Your system will reboot just fine even if no reordering/relinking gets done, as long as the kernel file itself isn't b0rked up of course. The relinkings are just a fancy way of making your system unique to you, but it might aswell be "ordinary" until you figure out the relinking stuff.
11:05 < tercaL> content of kernel.SHA256: SHA256 (/bsd) = 571d131ec1f7bc4f97d82d04458fe25262f42fa0f72921530497355fcec2e986
11:05 < tercaL> Oh, IcePic thank you for this. *deep breathtaking*
11:06 < sibiria> and you can always boot into the ramdisk kernel and sort things out
11:06 < sibiria> tercaL: what does /usr/share/relink/kernel/relink.log say?
11:06 < sibiria> anything obviously wrong?
11:07 < tercaL> cat: /usr/share/relink/kernel/relink.log: No such file or directory
11:07 < IcePic> While relinking has some small security benefit, one might argue that in this case, booting into a kernel with the erratas fixed is better security than having a currently-correctly-relinked kernel I guess
11:07 < tercaL> 2 folders in /usr/share/relink/kernel: GENERIC and GENERIC.MP
11:07 < tercaL> but no relink.log
11:13 < skdjs> relinking is security theater
11:14 < sibiria> it solves an actual case, even if extreme. personally i think it would be enough to do it with each patch rather than on each boot
11:14 < IcePic> skdjs: every security measure on its own probably is.
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11:20 < tercaL> It almost fills entire RAM on low VMs, hardwares I guess.. So any way to disable it completely? Like how we disable by a simple rcctl aslr
11:22 < sibiria> if you empty kernel.SHA256 it won't relink
11:23 < sibiria> any mismatch between that checksum and /bsd causes reordering to bail out
11:23 < IcePic> # Skip if /usr/lib, /usr/libexec or /usr/share/relink are on nfs mounted 
11:23 < IcePic> so just rig an nfs mount there. ;)
11:38 < pardis> that comment is from the bit of /etc/rc that relinks libraries, not the kernel
11:39 < pardis> you can easily disable library relinking in rc.conf.local, but for the kernel you have to put in a bogus sha256
11:39 < pardis> but note that this will prevent you getting kernel syspatches applied
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11:52 < IcePic> oh snap, my bad
11:53 < IcePic> but the kernel relink has a similar check
11:53 < IcePic> # Silently skip if on a NFS mounted filesystem.
11:54 < IcePic> you just need a dummy nfs here: /usr/share/relink/kernel
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13:35 < markboston> was trying to install openbsd last night and kept getting a io error when trying to parition the disk
13:35 < markboston> is that an issue with the installer or the usb drive i have the installer on?
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13:38 < sibiria> were you trying to install onto the USB memory?
13:38 < sibiria> the installer can enumerate storage devices for you so that you can pick the correct one
13:39 < markboston> it only showed 3 partitions that corresponds to my internal drive
13:39 < markboston> the drive with bsd on it only has one partition
13:39 < markboston> so i don't think it was trying to do that
13:40 < markboston> i know the disk im using is old
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13:40 < sibiria> openbsd is great with ancient stuff
13:40 < markboston> i just wanted to make sure it wasn't a known issue
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13:40 < sibiria> it's not
13:40 < markboston> when i say old i mean kinda broken lol
13:40 < sibiria> ok. broken drives giving i/o errors is a common and general known error in the world of computing
13:41 < markboston> yup
13:41 < markboston> it does work
13:41 < markboston> ive installed linux with it a bunch of times
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13:41 < markboston> but it might of just decided to completely fail
13:42 < markboston> usually if i reboot serveral times it works
13:42 < markboston> so guess its time for a new disk
13:43 < sibiria> sure sounds like it
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13:44 < markboston> it doesn't make weird noises or anything
13:44 < markboston> the last one i was using made a grinding sound
13:44 < markboston> not good
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13:49 < markboston> 6 TB for $100!
13:49 < markboston> i remember 20MB drive costing way more then that
13:50 < markboston> i think our external scsi for the mac128k was like $700-800 for 20mb
13:50 < markboston> thing is huge i still have it
13:51 < thrig> 87,592,750,000 $/TB in 1956 per some random site
13:52 < renaud> I think my 20Mb HDD for atari ST was about that price too
13:52 < markboston> uh there were no TB drives then
13:53 < markboston> none that would work anyway
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13:53 < renaud> When I bought a 500Mb disk, I remember someone telling me I was crazy and there was no way I could fill it.
13:53 < markboston> but yeah its probably extrapulating
13:53 < thrig> $/TB is a ratio and as such is not a gizmo you can buy
13:54 < markboston> "all you you is 8mb of ram"
13:54 < renaud> disk was huge: https://content.invisioncic.com/r322239/monthly_2020_02/IMG_20200221_222305758.jpg.e60207322dcde46a42f3b559dad0c66c.jpg
13:54 < markboston> from the guy who invented bloated software
13:54 < renaud> That was more 1Mb ram at the time
13:54 < markboston> mine is about that size little smaller
13:55 < markboston> still works
13:55 < markboston> it has indiana jones on it probably the last game i played
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13:56 < markboston> my brother got this stuff from school so probably financial aid paid for it
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13:57 < markboston> thrig wasn't away of that
13:58 < markboston> actually renaud were both wrong the actual quote he said was all anyone needs is 640K!
13:58 < markboston> you can't even put a jpeg in 640k
13:59 < sibiria> that's right. The King has ordained that JPEG images must be no less than 1.1 MB in size
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14:00 < markboston> well theres a lot of info there
14:00 < markboston> imagine if it wasn't compressed
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14:00 < renaud> There was a contest for who made the best program in the boot sector of a bootable 720kb disk. So, about 400 bytes usable. And someone came with a full game
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14:00 < markboston> we could still make software that way
14:01 < markboston> but nerds are fucking lazy
14:01 < markboston> and don't know how to program
14:01 < markboston> all of steve gibson's stuff i believe is like 100k or something really small
14:02 < renaud> I was talking about 400 bytes, not Kb
14:03 < thrig> there are embedded folks still doing tiny stuff
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14:03 < quinq> They're called tiny people
14:04 < markboston> yeah you could do that too im sure
14:04 < renaud> https://github.com/daniel-e/tetros
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14:05 < quinq> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Elf_ornament.jpg embedded folks
14:05 < markboston> i so badly want to learn machine code but my brain falls asleep everytime i try
14:05 < quinq> Try more
14:05 < renaud> It's not that useful anymore nowadays
14:05 < sibiria> the real heroes are those writing assembly for the home computers of the 80s and 90s
14:05 < quinq> Yeah, unless you work with computers
14:05  * sibiria JMP $FCE2
14:06 < renaud> sibiria: that was the only time you could do it. Nobody does it anymore, except for stuff that cannot be written in any other way
14:07 < quinq> Nobody does it anymore, except for those who do
14:07 < sibiria> assembly is still around even on modern OSes. but mostly in the form of various highly optimized segments
14:07 < renaud> cmp.b #$20,$fffffc02.w  <--- that compares the memory buffer of the keyboard of an Atari ST to check if you are pressing the space bar :)
14:07 < sibiria> e.g. assembly optimizations for video encoders
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14:07 < renaud> wow, it seems I coded too much on this platform, I still know some register addresses
14:08 < sibiria> btst #6,$bfe001 ; check left mouse button on the Amiga
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14:11 < renaud> lol, you can still find stuff I made and I don't have the source code anymore 
14:13 < sibiria> i think i still have most of the things i made for the amiga in the 90s
14:14 < renaud> I probably still have some stuff, but that's assuming the hard disks and floppies still work
14:14 < sibiria> i imaged my hdd from that time, but never got around to dump what's on floppies
14:16 < renaud> well, I can still find my stuff online :D https://demozoo.org/sceners/36868/
14:17 < sibiria> since you are a former atari scener, i, as former amiga scener, have to declare you a mortal enemy
14:17 < renaud> lol, there is even a site which can run the suff in the browser
14:17 < sibiria> it's been good knowing you
14:17 < renaud> :D
14:17 < renaud> Of course, my full screen tron clone doesn't run on it
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14:19 < renaud> sibiria: now we are both OpenBSD power users, so we can share a drink instead of fighting :D
14:19 < renaud> note that I also had an Amiga
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14:34 < sibiria> renaud: i had a 1040stfm, mainly used it for cubase
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14:37 < renaud> I have had the full stuff with Atari. My first one was an Atari 800, then a 130xl, then an STf, then a mega STE, then a Falcon. And also the consoles, VCS2600, lynx series 1 & 2, and the first 64 bit console, the Ataru Jaguar :D
14:37 < renaud> I still have the VCS2600 in wood version
14:37 < sibiria> a classic
14:37 < sibiria> i had the lynx, too. very peculiar and cool machine
14:38 < njn> i still have my 2600
14:38 < renaud> I still have them all, except the lynx serie 1
14:39 < njn> 6 switch
14:40 < IcePic> I wish I never sold my Vectrex. Got good money for it at the time, but it would have been gold to have now
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14:40 < renaud> The vectrex was quite spectacular at the time
14:41 < IcePic> renaud: also fun to have colored plastic sheets for each game to compensate for lack of colors on the screen.
14:41 < njn> i wish my parents hadnt gotten a rid of my coleco adam too
14:41 < njn> i had all the accessories including the 2600 attachment
14:41 < renaud> 16 colors is ought to be enough for anyone :D
14:43 < renaud> There was a paint program which allowed 512 colors at the same time. It was a trick to change the color palette at each line in sync with the screen.
14:45 < vortexx> Deluxe Paint?
14:45 < vortexx> on the Amiga that could do 4096 colours in HAM mode 
14:46 < vortexx> (OCS + ECS gfx chips)
14:46 < renaud> vortexx: spectrum 512 if I remember well
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14:49 < renaud> I even used an Atari ST to control the injection on a small engine
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14:49 < renaud> those were funny times
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14:59 < vortexx> renaud: could be, I wasn't exposed to those. Of those who had computers they all seemed to be C64s with the occasional 512k Mac in the mid 80s
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16:15 < njn> that old adam i had was nothing more then a word proccesser that used cassette tapes for storage/programs
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16:15 < njn> processor*
16:16 < njn> cassette tapes
16:17 < vortexx> not unusual for the time
16:17 < njn> i remember taking that computer apart, i was so intrigued
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16:28 < njn> i cant believe how much the prices have gone up on older hardware
16:28 < njn> you used to be able to pick up old unix workstations for reasonable prices, not there outragious
16:29 < njn> now*
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16:30 < quinq> Like getting a place to live in
16:30 < njn> i dont think i could really justify it
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16:39 < miah> hobbies all work this way. want to buy a muscle car? best time was early 80s. want to buy interesting old tech? same. You need to get in on the ground floor or you're going to be swamped by prices. ground floor being <10 years after the thing was generally available. beyond that, scarcity starts to happen as items get recycled due to age, loss of functionality, etc
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16:59 < avemestr> This is the time to hoard iPhone 6 then!
17:02 < quinq> Nah, pocket computers will never be looked after in the future
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17:06 < avemestr> Would be nice with a modern Toshiba Libretto. But that form factor kinda died in the market.
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17:09 < highplainsdruid> i had a toshiba netbook of some kind, nb200 or nb205 maybe?  ran openbsd well.  they were a nice form factor for certain applications
17:10 < miah> iphones & androids and such will just be landfill fodder. i hope people are archiving software from apple/play store. but there is already a vast amound of 'lost software' for those platforms. and good luck getting them running in 15 years when the batteries have all swollen into nice spicy pillows and already burned your house down
17:10 < sibiria> libretto w100 was kinda cool
17:10 < miah> a friend had one of those tiny librettos.. that fit in a pocket
17:10 < miah> even though it ran windows it was cooooooool
17:10 < sibiria> w100 was that format
17:11 < Bradipo> Libretto fit in a pocket?  That's cool.
17:11 < sibiria> it's like two smartphones that fold out
17:11 < sibiria> two touch screens
17:11 < highplainsdruid> oh i couldn't tell from the pictures online it was that small
17:11 < highplainsdruid> neat
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17:11 < miah> it may have been a sony thing. i remember it was rectangular. small. ran windows. fit in a pocket (well on cargo pants, definitely not todays skinny jeans)
17:12 < Bradipo> Ok, looking at pictures of the libretto... I'm not fond of the software keyboard.
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17:13 < avemestr> I was thinking of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba_Libretto#/media/File:Libretto_70CT.jpg
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17:15 < sibiria> miah: probably one of the vaio models then
17:16 < miah> maybe. this was ~2000
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17:20 < vortexx> miah: I remember that vaio, a customer brought one in to get a pcmcia wireless modem working
17:21 < vortexx> those were very attractive if expensive devices
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17:21 < vortexx> ran Win2K (this was late 2000 I think
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17:29 < vortexx> https://www.rediff.com/getahead/report/what-does-the-sony-vaio-pocketbooks-have-to-offer/20090325.htm <-- Sony was still making updated versions in 2009
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17:31 < sibiria> cool
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17:39 < vortexx> vaio C1 picturebook was probably that 2000 model
17:40 < miah> early pcmcmia wireless was absolute hell
17:40 < miah> so buggy and flakey
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17:57 < vortexx> miah: nearly as bad as trying to do bluetooth gprs
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18:07 < echelon> vortexx: you didn't use usb data cables?
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18:37 < djames> I have one of those small Vaio P series laptops. It's a beautiful piece of hardware but it's too slow for me to do much of anything useful with it
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18:38 < Bradipo> It's interesting how at one point that piece of hardware was useful...
18:38 < thrig> probably still is if you do IRC and other not heavy things
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18:47 < sibiria> surely enough for running x, cwm and a few terminals
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18:50 < linetrace> I've got an external USB storage device with a whole-disk FFS partition which currently shows -52.2GB in `df h`
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18:51 < linetrace> This was caused by an rsync that I did, but surprised it didn't fail as out of disk space
18:51 < sibiria> if you did that as root, you have access to the reserved space
18:51 < sibiria> that's what usually shows negative free space
18:52 < sibiria> you can tune or remove the reserved amount if you feel that it's too wasteful/annoying
18:52 < linetrace> My rsyncs do hardlink to the previous backup, but I wouldn't have expected that to be incorrectly accounted for by du, correct?
18:52 < linetrace> sibiria: ah, yup, I'm sure that's it and I'll investigate the reserved amount
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18:55 < sibiria> hard links shouldn't affect stats for du or df
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18:55 < sibiria> but see "man tunefs" either way :)
18:56 < linetrace> sibiria: yeah, I didn't expect they should, but was surprised that there might be >50GB of additional space on the drive to write to
18:56 < sibiria> the 5% default really hurts with today's disk sizes
18:57 < sibiria> yet another default that hasn't reconciled with modern times
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18:59 < linetrace> yeah, just found the 5% default in newfs(8), that is certainly a lot
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19:00 < linetrace> thanks again, sibiria, I clearly rarely run my FFS2 volumes close to full (also can't complain about)
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19:03 < linetrace> interesting how the 5% default affects space/time optimization too
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19:16 < vortexx> echelon: my phone had bluetooth, and gprs capable, so I wanted to use that. The data cable was serial to proprietary Sony Ericsson serial
19:17 < vortexx> it was for using on the train, so I could remote in before and after work
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19:18 < dfdx> I hear that the new macOS uses openrsync as its rsync tool now. Pretty cool.
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20:51 < amnesiac> Hi
20:51 < amnesiac> which login class is default for root ?
20:51 < amnesiac> daemon ?
20:51 < amnesiac> faced cannot allocate mamory with vmd start vm
20:52 < zelest> daemon yes
20:52 < amnesiac> zelest, thank you
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20:52 < zelest> # chfn root
20:52 < zelest> :)
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20:58 < amnesiac> rised datasize and made cap_mkdb on /etc/login.conf, however did not helped =\
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21:00 < zelest> how much RAM does the vm have?
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21:00 < amnesiac> 1.0G
21:01 < zelest> shouldn't be a problem, I got a 6GB one running fine here
21:01 < zelest> and I haven't touched login.conf regarding vmd
21:03 < amnesiac> is there a safe method to switch from current to stable ? ^)
21:03 < zelest> I run current :D
21:03 < amnesiac> ok
21:04 < zelest> but no, not that I know of
21:04 < amnesiac> yeah
21:06 < phy1729> amnesiac: wait until the release and upgrade to stable
21:09 < amnesiac> phy1729, yes. right way.
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21:55 < markboston> how do i tell the installer which partition on a desk to install to
21:56 < markboston> i marked partition two active which is where i want it to install
21:56 < markboston> is that enough?
21:56 < markboston> i don’t want it to use the whole disk
21:57 < vortexx> markboston: you have to make the partition type A6
21:57 < vortexx> then the installer will know that's the OpenBSD one and will use it
21:57 < markboston> how do i do that?
21:57 < markboston> i’m in the editor already
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22:01 < markboston> anyone? bueller?
22:02 < vortexx> if you mean fdisk, then f 2 should let you set it to A6
22:02 < vortexx> then write to save and then quit
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22:03 < markboston> ok i think i did that
22:04 < markboston> now it’s showing the layout hopefully it’s for the partition and not the whole disk
22:04 < markboston> that would be bad cuz i have linux installed also
22:05 < Bradipo> Whenever you dual boot, you better be certain of what you're doing, and have good backups.
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22:06 < vortexx> yes it will only look at your partition, if you see partitions already listed starting from i, those would be linux and whatever else you have on the disk
22:06 < markboston> yeah i checked it did the second partition
22:06 < markboston> it was just scary when it showed the layout hopefully
22:06 < markboston> but it was showing the partition not the disk
22:09 < vortexx> (mh should have been e 2 in fdisk as that's where you set the partition type, but you should be fine)
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22:22 < markboston> is dhcp not set up on the installer?
22:22 < markboston> it can’t get a ip address
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22:23 < thrig> how did you configure the network?
22:23 < vortexx> markboston: are you trying on wifi or wired ethernet?
22:23 < markboston> wired
22:24 < markboston> wi-fi didn’t work i can fix that later
22:24 < vortexx> it speaks dhcp
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22:24 < markboston> ok it’s looking for a domain
22:24 < markboston> i don’t have one
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22:27 < markboston> odd now it seems to have fixed itself
22:27 < markboston> guess it took a minute to talk to my router
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22:35 < markboston> ok now it won’t boot
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22:36 < markboston> grub is giving all kinds of error about nested partitions
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22:39 < markboston> how do i list disks? lsblk doesn’t work
22:39 < Bradipo> sysctl hw.disknames
22:39 < Bradipo> Or you can check dmesg.
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22:43 < markboston> i don’t think this is a full install
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22:43 < markboston> like i see fstab but trying to read it says it’s not there
22:44 < markboston> clearly it is
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22:47 < markboston> this time i added the efi partition
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23:04 < markboston> how do i get grub to load openbsd? i have it set to chain load but i dont have the right disk
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23:05 < markboston> it’s the 3 partition on the drive so it should be h,2or h,3 however neither one of those work
23:05 < vortexx> chainloader /EFI/OpenBSD/BOOTX64.EFI does it for me (with a \EFI\OpenBSD dir with the OpenBSD efi bootloader in it)
23:06 < vortexx> (are you booting BIOS or EFI?)
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23:20 < atheodo> hi everybody good evening
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23:54 < markboston> efi
23:55 < markboston> my computer has bios disabled
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