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00:13 < seninha> How can i, in a base installation, copy files between two OpenBSD hosts via ssh and, for each file, delete it from the source host iff it has been copied to the destination host?
00:13 < seninha> samba's rsync has --remove-source-files but openrsync has not.
00:14 < thrig> run rsync until lack of failures. then delete the files
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03:07 < fart_cat> hi does anyone know how to use libinput-openbsd on 75?
03:13 < mischief> to do what
03:14 < fart_cat> debug. When it is run with another package it says I have XT keyboard, but I have USB keyboard
03:15 < fart_cat> https://github.com/sizeofvoid/libopeninput/blob/build-on-openbsd/src/wskbdmap.c#L506
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03:23 < mischief> is that a problem?
03:24 < fart_cat> yeah the keyboard does not make output in the program
03:25 < mischief> and that program is
03:26 < fart_cat> sway
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03:27 < fart_cat> I think it is the line 513 in the link. ioctl problem
03:28 < fart_cat> when I run xenodm before sway, the keyboard returns USB type with libinput instead of XT. After Xorg loads the "kbd" device driver
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03:30 < mischief> sounds like something to write to the mailing list about
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03:31 < fart_cat> does sendbug do that?
03:31 < mischief> esp. since matthieu herrb is the maintainer of xenocara and has commits to that libinput repo....
03:31 < mischief> fart_cat: if you have a working mailserver configured.. sure.
03:32 < fart_cat> :z
03:33 < mischief> if you sendbug -P, you could copy the output into your prefered mail client instead perhaps
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06:01 < mischief> fart_cat: thanks for the bug report, hopefully someone on the list can help.
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08:27 < rnkn> o you think openbsd will get passkeys?
08:27 < rnkn> do
08:27 < zelest> passkeys?
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08:28 < rnkn> https://www.passkeys.io/
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08:29 < rnkn> I think they are public/private keys under the hood
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08:31 < rnkn> seems to be a marketing term for webauthn
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08:31 < oxzi> yes they are public key crypto. but what should openbsd do with it? afaik, it's more password manager- or browser-related
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08:39 < rnkn> they seem more in the camp of ssh
08:39 < rnkn> device-based
08:39 < rnkn> but idk
08:40 < mischief> i think ssh could already do that with older crypto hardware standards no?
08:40 < mischief> passkeys is 100% web garbage that might have incidental usage in not web garbage if someone (unpaid) does the work
08:43 < rnkn> okay; I just wondered if there is a propietary blocker
08:46 < mischief> no idea, but the hardware that commonly supports this stuff like yubikeys still supports older standards which afaik are already implemented for ssh auth
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09:58 < renaud> you can use passkeys for web auth under OpenBSD with bitwarden
09:58 < renaud> Not sure this is useful though
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10:04 < itrsea> renaud: explain how passkeys are lacking. How does one improve authentication?
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10:21 < renaud> it's not an OS stuff AFAIK
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10:21 < renaud> and I am not sure it improves anything
10:22 < renaud> I only noticed that amazon proposed me to set up a passkey instead of my password + 2nd factor
10:22 < renaud> and that bitwarden accepted to do it within firefox
10:26 < itrsea> A passkey is a product of an exchange between a service and a customer. The passkey is guarded by a local password. The passkey reduces the attack vector of remote authentication, en route.
10:26 < renaud> how does it protect more than passwrd+2nd factor?
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10:27 < itrsea> The OpenSSH keys solve the same issue. I agree the service is lacking without a complete authentication method.
10:28 < renaud> I understand this is about the same as OpenSSH keys
10:29 < renaud> but I don't understand the usefulness if you already have pass+2fa
10:30 < renaud> besides, it seems it's somewhat badly integrated
10:30 < itrsea> The service provider does interact with a service client before the customer.
10:30 < itrsea> I have to search for the standards implemented in a passkey.
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10:32 < renaud> I created a passkey for amazon. Then, I opened amazon in another container tab, and it asks me for my pass, like if there was no passkey.
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10:38 < itrsea> Redundancy is important in corporate services.
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13:04 < kodcode> Hi, I am new to shell scripts and wrote a small script that turns off my touchpad when a usb mouse is connected to my laptop. I am not sure if I needed to supress the output. https://clbin.com/5vnuf
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13:16 < lucas> kodcode: you can probably leverage hotplugd for that
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13:18 < lucas> also, about the script itself: doing var=$(cmd) and only using $var as echo $var | other_cmd is a smell
13:18 < lucas> you can write `if wsconsctl 2>/dev/null | grep ...; then`
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13:22 < michel> What is the maxmimum cpu's in one system under openbsd ? 
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13:26 < sibiria> at least 64
13:26 < sibiria> (cores)
13:31 < michel> thx, do you know if the pf can use multible cpu's ? 
13:32 < sibiria> i *think* it (and the network stack) can do some parallel work these days
13:33 < sibiria> e.g. these days you don't need much CPU perf to saturate 1 gbit/sec
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13:44 < byteskeptical> michel: from the code it looks like it depends on the arch. You can grep for #define MAXCPUS in /usr/src/sys/arch
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14:00 < michel> x86
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14:11 < kodcode> lucas: Thanks.
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14:22 < IcePic> michel: I think in terms of %, the time spent in PF is very low, compared to all the time spent getting from the eth card, through the driver, into eth_input(), via ip_input(), pf, doing routing lookup to see where it is heading, then pf again, ip_output(), ethernet output() and lastly ending up in the ethernet driver output queue.
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14:23 < IcePic> while it is good and well if pf is totally MP capable, there are many other choke points that all need to be MP before you would even notice if pf is mp or not
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15:07 < eea> if it can be solved, openbsd devs will eventually solve it
15:08 < a1fa> o/
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17:59 < lts> Maybe one day they will solve the PF queue max bandwidth being 2^32-1 bits (slightly over 4Gbps) :-) 
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18:14 < a1fa> add moar queue
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18:29 < miah> 4Gbps isn't enough for me. my company will be beyond Google scale. YOU'LL SEE!!!!
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18:38 < avemestr> lts: I'm not sure I follow.. would that not only limit to 4Gbps if the queue could only be filled once per second?
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18:40 < sibiria> perhaps the bandwidth number of a queue declaration is a 32-bit unsigned value
18:41 < sibiria> hence 4 billion bits at most
18:42 < avemestr> Yes, but if the effect should be a limit of bits _per second_ that would mean the queue could only be filled once _per second_, no?
18:42 < a1fa> i cant has math
18:43 < lts> avemestr: it essentially means the bandwidth for PF queues is limited to 4Gbps. FreeBSD fixed it at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16782
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18:46 < lts> I.e. if you want to use queues for bufferbloat fixes or other purposes, your connections are limited to 4Gbps at the moment
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18:53 < oldlaptop> miah: I don't think that's what they mean when they say "you are not Google"
18:56 < lts> Well we have first consumer 20Gbps Internet connections available in my country now, and Switzerland et al have had that for ages. 100Gbps is becoming very cheap for LAN, too
18:59 < miah> must be nice! =) where i live (in the woods) my connection is a 5g access point. I'd be lucky to put 100MBps through it
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19:05  * oldlaptop remembers deeply appreciating, not that long ago, reliable ~1.5mbit/s (down) ADSL as an upgrade over unreliable ~3mbit/s (down) wimax
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19:10 < thrig> or how the modem got bad after it rained
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19:14 < mischief> gig down here but only 30m up.. got a ways to go before i hit the tx queue limit :)
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19:50  * avemestr might have to change the 10gbps order to 2.5gbps being enabled in a couple of weeks @home.
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21:29 < deimosBSD> is there some login.conf setting that by default kills background jobs after a few minutes when started from a shell?
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21:33 < thrig> who knows? what's in the login.conf and how does that differ from the default
21:34 < Bradipo> login.conf does have "cputime"
21:34 < Bradipo> I've never used it.
21:37 < sibiria> that's a tricky balance since it will affect everything
21:38 < sibiria> if it's an idle process even a low number can take days to happen, and if it's a busy process it could be killed suddenly and prematurely
21:40 < thrig> maybe good for a free shell to keep logins from doing too much
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22:07 < deimosBSD> it's the default /etc/login.conf fwiw
22:08 < martian67> no, there is no setting like that
22:08 < martian67> its possible you are hitting the memory limits though deimosBSD
22:08 < martian67> or file handle limits
22:08 < martian67> check logs
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22:38 < deimosBSD> yeah, i can't find anything obvious
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22:39 < vortexx> midnight struck and the pppoe0 connex went down...
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23:25 < vortexx> Frame.work have announced that a RISC-V mainboard is being developed to fit the Frame.work 13. I wonder how well the OS support for that will grow...
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