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13:41 < a1fa> Yay! 7.6 sysupgrade now :0
13:41 < a1fa> congrats on another release developers!
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13:43 < a1fa> already got 4 hosts updated
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13:46 < a1fa> OpenBSD 7.6 (GENERIC) #332: Mon Sep 30 08:45:17 MDT 2024
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13:47 < a1fa> drama-free upgrades..
13:52 < a1fa> owwww. first glitch
13:52 < a1fa> smtpd[39770]: lookup: table-proc: unexpected EOF during handshake
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13:53 < a1fa> credentials[15865]: warn: table-api: imsg_get: Result too large
13:56 < a1fa> it did not like blank credentials file
13:59 < Foxy_> OpenBSD 7.6 release available on mirrors :) https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.6/
13:59 < a1fa> yes!
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14:01 < puffybuf> so I use -current, somehow my system got updated to '7.7' how do I fix this
14:02 < puffybuf> sysupgrade Fetching from https://ftp.OpenBSD.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.7/amd64/
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14:07 < IcePic> run sysupgrade -s
14:07 < IcePic> your system is past 7.6-release, so it looks for the next
14:07 < puffybuf> ok
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14:25 < a1fa> i am going to update my main desktop next
14:26 < a1fa> hold your fingers crossed.. hopefully that amdgpu bug is fixed with screen flickering
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14:39 < a1fa> o/ 
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14:56 < lts> Perfect Sunday activity
14:58 < lts> Any draft of changes etc anywhere yet?
14:59 < Zeroctober> https://www.openbsd.org/plus76.html
14:59 < lts> Brilliant, thank you
14:59 < sibiria> or just 76.html
15:00 < sibiria> for the "human-readable" digest
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15:08 < lts> Added a "log" option to relayd.conf(5) rules
15:08 < lts> This should become handy
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15:13 < Zeroctober> is there a way to control which sets are installed by sysupgrade?
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15:15 < kn> Zeroctober: no
15:16 < lts> Well technically you can make it download first, delete what you don't want, and then let it continue. But you'll save only 2MB by removing those games
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15:16 < Zeroctober> well it's not just games I want to skip
15:17 < Zeroctober> I have one setup that uses only base and man
15:17 < sibiria> you can download all sets, then just remove then, and run sysupgrade again
15:18 < sibiria> the other method is to boot ramdisk kernel and upgrade manually. it's a bit more convoluted
15:19 < lts> Just remember this will not remove the old versions of the unselected sets
15:19 < lts> It's way easier to just always install all sets and never have to think about what sets there are on which hosts
15:20 < sibiria> i wish X would still be separated from the system the way it was in the past. but these days it is what it is
15:21 < pardis> if you install half an OpenBSD, figuring out how to maintain your frankensystem is on you and not the base tooling
15:24 < Zeroctober> how is it a frankensystem when it's an option in the installer?
15:24 < Zeroctober> if picking sets isn't part of the design, it shouldn't be presented as an option
15:24 < pardis> using MBR partitioning with UEFI is also an option in an installer, but if you choose it you'll find your system isn't bootable
15:25 < pardis> it's presented as an option for advanced users who know what they're doing and won't ask for help with it, mainly
15:25 < pardis> removing the option has been brought up on the mailing lists before due to people asking for help with their self-broken systems
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16:02 < echelon> i see a lot of ports have X as a dependency even though they’re condole apps, only because of some weird optional features
16:04 < Foxy_> Zeroctober: run sysupgrade -n => no reboot and change /auto_upgrade.conf file to select sets you want to include/exclude, then reboot to upgrade system
16:04 < Foxy_> see man autoinstall
16:05 < Zeroctober> Foxy_: thanks
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16:05 < Foxy_> I'm using this process to upgrade my system with sysupgrade and no install for game* sets
16:06 < sibiria> no hack(6)? frankensystem confirmed.
16:07 < Zeroctober> that's true
16:07 < Zeroctober> essential software
16:07 < Foxy_> Zeroctober: otherwise, you can use a sysupgrade script modified by Vincent Delft => https://vincentdelft.be/post/post_20201021/
16:07 < sibiria> running fortune(6) on login is also essential
16:07 < sibiria> it's the only bright moment of my morning. that and extra strong coffee
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16:18 < lts> Almost painlessly.. so far speedtest-cli caused python3.10 not get removed automatically, and tmux seems to have some kind of delay after pressing the hotkey kombination before it accepts the next key. Notes have "Reduced tmux(1) escape-time default to 10 milliseconds (from 500)." which should have an opposite effect
16:19 < lts> Nah, probably unrelated, it's literally about escape key
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16:28 < lts>  Yup confirmed, this happens on all 7.6 and on no 7.5
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16:55 < lts> Also with an empty .tmux.conf
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19:37 < Posterdati> hi
19:38 < Posterdati> did anyone perform sysupgrade to 7.6?
19:40 < baylen> all my machines with openbsd installed are still on 7.5
19:40 < baylen> all 2 of them that is
19:44 < Zeroctober> I've upgraded a few but not all of mine
19:45 < Posterdati> I experienced problems with pkg_add
19:49 < Posterdati> running pkg_check
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19:53 < Posterdati> userland seems to be screwed
19:56 < Posterdati> nice
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20:01 < Posterdati> gtk imagemagik and others are broken
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20:07 < sibiria> you may be connecting to a mirror that doesn't have all the packages yet
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20:08 < Posterdati> https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub
20:12 < Posterdati> isn't that good?
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20:12 < Zeroctober> doesn't cdn act as a round-robin between many mirrors?
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20:15 < sibiria> Zeroctober: sort of, yes
20:15 < sibiria> "you never know what you're gonna get"
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20:18 < Posterdati> :(
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20:23 < Posterdati> I just tried the first 5 servers on the mirrors webpage and the problem still remains
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20:27 < Posterdati> nice :)
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20:30 < XV8> Hey all, question, macppc shows supported in OpenBSD 7.5, checked a few mirrors and quite a few dependent packages are missing in the repos. I am trying to track down where the upstream is getting pulled from so I can build locally. Anyone got an ideas? 
20:34 < Posterdati> ok, removing all xfce4 packages and gtk + dependencies
20:34 < Posterdati> nice
20:36 < zwr> XV8: most likely some packages that the program you want to install depends on don't build on PowerPC. look at the ports tree's source code, it'll link to where the package comes from
20:37 < XV8> Gotcha, I'll follow the white rabbit. Thanks zwr ! 
20:38 < Posterdati> seems that pkg_add can't resolve glib2-2.80 vs glib-2.2.78
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21:27 < XV8> ah crap, I did `sysupgrade -s` and it moved to 7.6, which does not have the macppc packages (deprecated/obsoleted). Since it's considered a snapshot, is there a rollback functionality or is this basically going to warrant a reinstallation? 
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21:32 < XV8> zwr: I am looking back through mailing list archive and I do not see where liblmdb is failing to build. The last powerpc bulk build report from 09/27/2024 does not mention that specific one by name, so I wonder if there's a parent package it's failing to build and thus does not build this one. 
21:36 < pardis> downgrades are not supported, you'll need to reinstall if you want to go back to a release
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21:41 < pardis> but there are powerpc packages for snapshots
21:41 < pardis> https://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/powerpc/
21:42 < pardis> and lmdb is in that list of packages, and also for 7.5
21:42 < pardis> so it looks like the package you want is right there
21:46 < XV8> interesting, I will have to use that mirror then. This one does not have that one
21:46 < XV8> https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.5/packages/powerpc/
21:46 < pardis> it does for me
21:47 < pardis> but it's a CDN, not a real mirror, so you might be hitting a different cache
21:47 < pardis> there shouldn't be cache problems for 7.5, though, that hasn't changed since April
21:47 < XV8> gotcha, yeah CDNs are weird. 
21:47 < XV8> Okay, I know what to do going forward. Thanks! 
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22:01 < XV8> pardis that fixed it. I set the PKG_PATH to the FTP you mentioned and it pulled exactly what I needed. Thanks! 
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22:09 < zwr> update to 7.6 went fine
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22:21 < polarian_> zwr: OpenBSD 7.6 hasn't been released yet though?
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22:22 < polarian> oo its there, but not announced yet... I assume the announcement will come within 24-48 hours
22:22 < zwr> it hasn't but the files are already in the repos for some architectures. 
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22:23 < polarian> zwr: you dont want to wait for the announcement lol
22:23 < polarian> do you just periodically run sysupgrade?
22:23 < zwr> I really wanted that hardware decoding. my CPU can't handle modern codecs but my GPU has the hardware decoder
22:23 < polarian> ah, you use OpenBSD on the desktop then?
22:24 < zwr> yes
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22:38 < polarian> ah
22:38 < a1fa> o/
22:41 < zwr> 7.6 changelog also says AES-NI reenabled. I didn't even notice it was disabled
22:41 < a1fa> lo
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22:45 < ryan> in libcrypto, not necessarily where i'd notice (iked)
22:46 < phy1729> polarian: Tuesday https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/etc/root/root.mail
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23:04 < polarian> phy1729: ah thanks :)
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23:10 < brynet> zwr: it was accidentally disabled in -current for a few weeks.
23:11 < brynet> The changelog/plus page is summary of commits betwween 7.5/7.6, not the differences between releases.
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23:14 < brynet> actually less than that, it was broken in snaps between Aug 31 and Sep 6..
23:16 < brynet> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=172561657624306&w=2
23:16 < brynet> https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=172510816317018&w=2
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23:18 < brynet> sigh..
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