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01:02  * ssm_ thinks about putting src xenocara and ports on different anoncvs repos so all 3 can be fetched at the same time
01:05 < ssm_> ports gets the fastest mirror obviously
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01:34 < oldlaptop> probably further ahead using the git mirrors, if you care that much
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08:29 < quinq> Vague report/question
08:29 < quinq> Since 7.5, several curses application are not able to erase lines as expected
08:30 < quinq> (irssi is one of them)
08:30 < quinq> Like a long status line would be redrawn to a shorter one, but the rest of the old line is still in place
08:30 < quinq> Has anybody else experienced this?
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09:57 < radhitya> hmm, i have not, quinq
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12:11 < rnkn> has anyone successfully built the JUCE framework on OpenBSD?
12:13 < quinq> uid 0 on /mnt/usr: file system full
12:13 < quinq> Installation of base76.tgz failed.
12:13 < quinq> :/
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12:15 < quinq> That's on an install with default /usr partitionning
12:15 < quinq> of 1.7GB
12:18 < sibiria> i think even 2gb is just on the edge now for 7.5->7.6
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12:20 < quinq> Does that mean I have to reinstall the whole system? :/
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12:21 < sibiria> eventually, yeah. but you could probably get away with shuffling sile systems around a bit
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12:21 < sibiria> file*
12:22 < quinq> Now sysupgrade tells me it can't want to upgrade to 7.7 :/
12:22 < quinq> s/want //
12:24 < quinq> right, network is broken now :/
12:24 < quinq> “Check available disk space in /usr. Verify that the /usr partition has a size of at least 1.1G.”
12:25 < quinq> sysupgrade: -f      For snapshots, force an already applied upgrade.  This option has no effect on releases.
12:25 < quinq> I suppose there's no other choice than manual re-install (of sets), right?
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12:26 < sibiria> GAME OVER, JOHNNY BOY
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12:42 < quinq> ok, deleted /usr/share/relink, rebooted on /bsd.rd, upgraded
12:42 < quinq> werks
12:43 < sibiria> you'll need to get the kernel object files back later though
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12:52 < quinq> Well, they're part of base
12:52 < quinq> So they're here now
12:53 < quinq> I removed it *before* upgrade (bis)
12:58 < sibiria> it's a clever system in one way, albeit bulky
12:59 < sibiria> could do with tidying up a bit, like removing newbsd.gdb or whatever the temporary file is called
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13:31 < quinq> yeah
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14:13 < vortexx> ssm_: that sounds like a cool idea
14:14 < vortexx> zayd: did you get any further in your sparc64 on qemu install?
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16:33 < wickedshell> I've been messing around with adding pledge and unveil to some programs I commonly use, and pledge has been pretty easy to add, but I'm finding that when I add unveil I'm getting failures in some go programs to verify certificates for TLS connections. Does anyone happen to know what I might be tripping over?
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16:34 < wickedshell> Alternatively does anyone know of a good way to look at a log to see what has been blocked by unveil? The best I've found so far is to run the program with ktrace and look at the log, but I'm struggling to reliably find what I'm looking for once it's a non trivial program.
16:36 < sibiria> those programs would want access to /etc/ssl
16:37 < sibiria> to cert.pem
16:45 < wickedshell> That seems very obvious now that you pointed it out, thank you! I unveil'd just cert.pem and it seems to be happy now. Is this reasonable to be just that file, or should I just do all of /etc/ssl.
16:46 < sibiria> that file alone is the openbsd CA cert bundle
16:47 < sibiria> if self-signed CA roots are expected to be used they will be separate from that file
16:56 < wickedshell> Hmmm, I don't know that I expect them to be used, but since I'd like to share patches upstream in the end I probably need to go read up on this area more.
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17:48 < zayd> vortexx: i couldn't, someone suggested i use -serial but i couldn't find a way to apply it properly
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17:49 < zayd> or to use the serial display from qemu gui
17:49 < zayd> https://pic.t0.vc/NVGM.png this was from serial display https://pic.t0.vc/NNTH.png this was from vga
17:49 < zayd> when i was trying to boot
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18:00 < vortexx> zayd: I'm wondering if you don't need to specify some video card. Serial port output is showing it's not even finding the kernel
18:00 < vortexx> vga output shows it does and then redirects the console
18:00 < zayd> i thought i accidentally had downloaded a ppc64 image earlier but it turns out it was the right one in the wrong directory
18:01 < vortexx> try booting with the gui but with cu listening on the serial port maybe?
18:01 < sibiria> standard vga and sometimes telling kernel to use the framebuffer could work
18:01 < zayd> vortexx: how would i set "cu listening on the serial port"? i don't use qemu cli much, most of the time i just use virt manager so i don't know much about how to use the cli opitons
18:01 < zayd> options*
18:02 < sibiria> i.e. telling qemu "-vga std" or "-device VGA", and then "set tty fb0" on the boot prompt
18:02 < zayd> oh i don't get a boot prompt, it just loads up and goes to the screens i showed
18:03 < zayd> with no interaction
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18:08 < vortexx> zayd: same as you, I use virt-manager mostly. -serial pty seems to be the option according to this: https://supratim-sanyal.blogspot.com/2018/11/fun-with-openbsd-for-sparc64-high.html
18:09 < zayd> vortexx: setting -serial pty leads to the same screen on vga and now the serial0 view option is gone
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18:38 < vortexx> zayd: qemu-system-sparc64 -machine sun4u,usb=off  -smp 1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1  -rtc base=utc  -m 1024  -boot d -drive file=fs.qcow2,if=none,id=drive-ide0-0-1,format=qcow2,cache=none  -cdrom install76.iso -device ide-hd,bus=ide.0,unit=0,drive=drive-ide0-0-1,id=ide0-0-1 -msg timestamp=on  -serial pty  -net nic,model=ne2k_pci -net user got the installer booting with this
18:40 < zayd> i assume i have to reinstall? i edited it to fit my installation and it says "No valid state has been set by load or init-program"
18:41 < vortexx> probably yeah
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18:48 < zayd> i'll try that as soon as i can then
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18:59 < vortexx> mh post install reboot it loads the kernel but nothing further displays..
19:00 < vortexx> bootloader boots the kernel immediately so no ability to redirect output
19:00 < vortexx> going to give it 15 mins to see if it loads properly or not
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19:07 < zayd> alright
19:08 < vortexx> what you could do is reinstall and before rebooting editing /mnt/boot.conf to redirect to console maybe
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19:11 < zayd> vortexx: in the installer's shell i assume?
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19:17 < vortexx> yes installer's shell
19:17 < vortexx> ok I'm getting in the serial output that the kernel crashes
19:18 < vortexx> Unimplemented service set-symbol-lookup ([2] -- [0])
19:18 < vortexx> Unhandled Exception 0x0000000000000030
19:18 < vortexx> and execution stops
19:19 < vortexx> maybe it'd work better on an ultra IV instead of an ultra II
19:19 < vortexx> I'm no expert on this despite owning a sparcstation5 and an ultra1 
19:19 < vortexx> (which I booted OpenBSD on many many moons ago)
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19:23 < zayd> i think i tried an IV at one point and got the same problem
19:23 < zayd> ]I tried an IV plus
19:23 < zayd> i'll try reinstalling
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19:26 < vortexx> I don't think reinstalling is really necessary, it's more a question of finding a compatible CPU 
19:26 < vortexx> -serial pty and connecting wth cu gives you some console output at least
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19:27 < vortexx> I didn't realize you'd gotten it installed, I thought you were just trying to get the install iso to load
19:28 < zayd> ah well i already remade the image before reading that
19:28 < zayd> yeah i did install
19:28 < zayd> but now it won't boot the installed image
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19:36 < vortexx> I booted the install cd and edited boot.conf but now it says line in use for cu :P
19:37 < vortexx> (doing this on linux of course)
19:37 < zayd> does openbsd have qemu at all?
19:37 < vortexx> it does but it's dog slow
19:38 < vortexx> ah I'd forgotten to readd -serial pty
19:38 < vortexx> damn pebkac
19:42 < zayd>  /mnt/boot.conf doesn't exist, i guess i'm supposed to make it?
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19:44 < zayd> and what am i supposed to put in it?
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19:55 < vortexx> yeah it doesn't exist by default, I put in stty com0 9600\ set tty com0
19:55 < vortexx> how do you set the cpu model with -cpu ?
19:56 < zayd> i tried with default (not setting -cpu) and with Sun-UltraSparc-III and Sun-UltraSparc-IV-plus
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19:58 < zayd> i added what you said, rebooting now
19:59 < zayd> oh shit is it working
19:59 < zayd> nevermind wrong command
19:59 < zayd> yeah it's back to "no valid state set"
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20:06 < quinq> zayd, maybe too old qemu version?
20:06 < quinq> Here: QEMU emulator version 9.1.0
20:07 < zayd> i'm on 9.1.0
20:08 < vortexx> 8.2.2 here
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20:11 < vortexx> going to try install with two cpus to see if it makes a difference, thanks for the heads up on the -cpu syntax
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20:12 < zayd> vortexx: oh the syntax is just "-cpu ModelNameHere"
20:12 < zayd> you can get a list with -cpu help
20:12 < sibiria> example: -cpu BeefCake64
20:12 < sibiria> click like and hit that subscribe button
20:14 < vortexx> ugh sun4u doesn't support SMP
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20:16 < vortexx> it's very odd the installer kernel works but not the OS one
20:17 < zayd> yeah
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21:06 < vortexx> tried install62.iso since that's supposed to install a booting system, and using cdrom install the atapi device times out all over the place
21:07 < zayd> is the sparc64 port just broken?
21:07 < zayd> i don't know for sure as i don't have any sparc hardware
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21:09 < vortexx> doing a network install now
21:10 < vortexx> I doubt it's broken, otherwise the packages wouldn't be built (OpenBSD builds all its packages on native hardware)
21:11 < zayd> ah
21:11 < zayd> weird that the installed kernel isn't working on qemu then
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21:18 < vortexx> maybe qemu's emulation isn't quite there, which is very possible
21:18 < vortexx> or something changed in OpenBSD since 6.2
21:19 < zayd> i guess
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21:21 < vortexx> waiting for kernel relinking then going to reboot into the 6.2 install, standby
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21:23 < vortexx> 6.2 boots!
21:24 < vortexx> going to upgrade version by version now
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21:28 < vortexx> 6.3 doesn't seem to have the atapi hickups for now
21:33 < vortexx> upgrading goes at about the speed it did back in 2003 for me on i386
21:33 < vortexx> which isn't unexpected
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21:52 < zayd> vortexx: so it's probably something in 7.x causing it?
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21:56 < vortexx> zayd: probably. 6.3 booted, I'm just doing sysmerge + sysclean and moving onto 6.4
21:56 < zayd> i'll ask in #qemu on oftc about it i guess
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22:06 < vortexx> 6.4 installing
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22:22 < vortexx> 6.4 boots
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22:32 < vortexx> 6.5 installing
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22:35 < vortexx> 6.5 has the atapi timetout
22:35 < pardis> binary searches are usually more efficient than linear searches
22:36 < vortexx> s/timetout/timeout
22:36 < sibiria> on the other end of the spectrum, all versions of openbsd has the AHCI wait-forever-before-moving-on behavior
22:39 < sibiria> on my system the kernel stalls boot for 10 seconds because of two disks being connected to SATA
22:39 < sibiria> if i connect disks to all four ports, it stalls for 20 seconds
22:41 < vortexx> it's more like crashing on sparc64 when atapi times out
22:41 < vortexx> but yeah AHCI...
22:44 < sibiria> perhaps a related bug
22:45 < sibiria> and it's old. i remember it being present for a decade if not more
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23:00 < vortexx> 6.5 boots
23:00 < zayd> vortexx: i was told to submit an issue on the qemu gitlab
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23:01 < vortexx> that's a good move but we need to work out which release broke
23:01 < zayd> and what exactly do you mean by atapi timeout? the filesystems aren't mounting as they should?
23:02 < zayd> i'll work backwards i guess, starting with 7.4
23:02 < vortexx> zayd: it starts reading the sets from cd0 and then goes into timeout, not sure when
23:02 < zayd> are you using installXX.iso?
23:02 < zayd> ah
23:02 < zayd> so somewhere between 6.5 and 7.5 is where the bug begins
23:02 < vortexx> I'm upgrading using installXX.iso yes
23:02 < vortexx> yes
23:03 < zayd> where do they keep all the old images? i only see 7.3 and up on the cdn
23:03 < vortexx> ftp.eu.openbsd.org has them all
23:04 < zayd> oh
23:04 < zayd> that link 403s for me
23:04 < zayd> maybe because i'm on a vpn?
23:04 < zayd> i'll try switching servers when i need to use it
23:06 < sibiria> no you just need the right path
23:06 < sibiria> ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/
23:06 < zayd> oh
23:06 < zayd> installing 7.5 right now
23:07 < vortexx> https://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD of course
23:08 < vortexx> we'll need to file a bug at bugs@openbsd.org as well I suspect
23:09 < vortexx> getting wd0 timeouts when installing via http at the comp66.tgz stage
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23:10 < zayd> vortexx: i'm also stuck at Installing comp75.tgz
23:11 < zayd> nevermind it unstalled
23:11 < zayd> and i think i'm installing from the cd
23:20 < zayd> 7.5 installed
23:20 < zayd> https://pic.t0.vc/UZAI.png forgot to mention but both 7.6 and 7.5 do this after installing and selecting reboot
23:22 < zayd> vortexx: 7.5 gets stuck but it's a bit different, it stops here instead of the earlier message with .6 https://pic.t0.vc/BNCU.png
23:23 < zayd> using this: qemu-system-sparc64 -machine sun4u,usb=off  -smp 1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1  -rtc base=utc  -m 1024  -boot d -drive file=openbsd76sparc64qemu.img,if=none,id=drive-ide0-0-1,format=raw,cache=none -device ide-hd,bus=ide.0,unit=0,drive=drive-ide0-0-1,id=ide0-0-1 -msg timestamp=on  -cdrom OpenBSD\ 7.5\ Install\ sparc64.iso -net nic,model=ne2k_pci -net user
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23:33 < vortexx> I never tried rebooting, I just halt and then relaunch qemu
23:33 < vortexx> 6.6 is timing out on atapi AND ne0
23:33 < vortexx> at install
23:34 < zayd> any kernel issue?
23:34 < zayd> cdn.openbsd seems to be much faster than the eu ftp
23:35 < vortexx> retrying, if it fails will do the old trick of just extracting sets over the previous release in the previous release then halting and booting 
23:36 < zayd> installing 7.4
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23:46 < vortexx> 6.6 install is completing after using http
23:50 < vortexx> h
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23:55 < vortexx> 6.6 boots
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