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06:57 < oxbar> Whats a good date and time app or bar i can use with cwm ?
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07:44 < betabug> I just put it in the status line of tmux, which is open anyway
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07:51 < oxbar> betabug: that for me ?
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07:52 < oxbar> makes sense.. i just put irssi in a tmux and has the date and time
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07:55 < betabug> oxbar: yes
07:56 < oxbar> Thanks
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08:10 < mischief> set -g status-right "[ %F %T ]"
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16:56 < knutte> hell0
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16:57 < knutte> can i play minecraft in openbsd?
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16:58 < ym> Why?
16:58 < kenny1337> hello
16:58 < IcePic> one seemingly could one year ago at least from what the posts online say
16:59 < IcePic> https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd_gaming/comments/1cm26li/is_it_even_possible_to_run_minecraft_on_openbsd_i/
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17:01 < miah> minetest probably works
17:01 < miah> https://www.minetest.net/
17:02 < knutte> thanks
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17:08 < phy1729> You can, but not the latest versions because of an old lwjgl version iirc
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17:19 < echelon> are there any native/ported database systems that use pledge/unveil?
17:19 < thrig> sqlite isn't difficult to pledge and unveil
17:20 < echelon> i wouldn't wanna store credit card information in a sqlite db
17:21 < thrig> the goalposts, they just leaped elsewhere
17:21 < echelon> or for anything networked
17:21 < echelon> sorry :/
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17:24 < miah> use berkely db then ;)
17:25 < echelon> i thought that worked more as a library than a system
17:26 < miah> its whatever you want it to be at zombo.com
17:26 < echelon> ie, wouldn't be preferable for networked systems
17:26 < miah> but you said you didnt want networked systems
17:26 < echelon> i guess you would have to add your own layer to it
17:26 < miah> i guess your other option is LMDB
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17:27 < echelon> i mean, sqlite wouldn't be ideal for networked, because you would have to introduce nfs or some other weakly secured protocol
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17:36 < sibiria> there are a couple of networked databases that use sqlite in the bottom, to achieve something simpler and less complex than the typical RDBMS
17:38 < sibiria> rqlite is the most popular one
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17:53 < oxbar> I'm trying to get about 50 png files that are 28.5MB into an email (gmail) that only can hold 25MB how can i do this and how can i make them alphabtical order or is this even possible ?
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17:54 < miah> email them a link to a .zip that is accessible over http
17:54 < miah> before google nuetered our internet and collective brains we had technologies like 'ftp' that made this task very easy
17:54 < quinq> Send two emails
17:55 < quinq> Ask your recipient to use a proper email provider
17:55 < miah> that too =)
17:56 < quinq> miah's suggestion is good, host it out-of-band (http/ftp/sftp/whatever)
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17:58 < phy1729> Could always tar them all together and actually use the split(1) command for the first time this decade.
17:59 < miah> but that would require the receiver to know what tar is :P
17:59 < miah> 'like the stuff on my roof?'
18:00 < quinq> Tar on roofs, wasn't that in London in mid 17th century?
18:00 < quinq> “Don't mind smoking at the window”
18:00 < miah> its still used today, though in less quanities
18:00 < quinq> Smaller fires
18:01 < miah> well, i think its usually used on commercial building roofs, warehouses and such
18:01 < miah> so probably still big fires =)
18:01 < quinq> :>
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18:22 < mischief> miah: webp?
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18:33 < miah> its google bullshit, i'd rather avoid
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18:50 < avemestr> A simple zip would probably work? Also easy extraction if the recipient is on a non-unixy system.
18:50 < lts> Compressing already compressed files may not be very successful
18:51 < avemestr> Using -s obviously.
18:51 < avemestr> So splitting in e.g. 20MB chunks...
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18:52 < thrig> send them on floppies
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18:56 < miah> send them on a usb drive you found in the parking lot
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18:58 < Bradipo> I send files that have been split(1) to folks on Windows systems all the time.
18:58 < Bradipo> It isn't as convenient for them to just "cat filename.* > filename"
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18:58 < Bradipo> But they can do it using PowerShell or cmd.
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18:59 < mischief> miah: your receiver is already using 'google bullshit', so what's the problem
19:00 < Bradipo> With cmd, they just use: copy /y /b filename.aa +filename.ab +etc filename
19:02 < miah> its not my receiver, im not sending a file. believe me. i tell all my friends about the evil.
19:03 < mischief> about the evil of bsd licensed c code (webp)? ;)
19:03 < miah> still came out of google
19:03 < miah> im over google. slowly divesting from all their bs.
19:04 < Bradipo> 'tis a shame.  When google first came out, and gmail, I was one of their biggest promoters.
19:04 < Bradipo> Now I cannot stand them. lol.
19:06 < miah> same. i still have my email hosted at google, but have been working on moving all that over to self hosted. i self hosted up until ~2006 when i moved and switched to google workspaces (enterprise at the time)
19:06 < Bradipo> I never switched email to gmail, fortunately, so I don't have to worry about that.
19:07 < miah> i interviewed there 3 times, i learned im not smart enough (or don't lick boots well enough) to get hired there
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19:07 < Bradipo> Haha.
19:07 < miah> im generally the person most likely to tell the ceo he's a dumbass; definitely not google material =)
19:09 < miah> in like 2003 when i interviewed there, it didn't seem all that bad. but in 2014, and 2018.. what was i thinking?
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19:09 < Bradipo> Well, it's just a job, right?
19:09 < miah> never
19:10 < miah> but it took me some time to learn that
19:10 < sibiria> a job against humanity
19:11 < miah> indeed
19:12 < mps> heh, you reminded me that I did similar in 2002 year
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19:13 < miah> they didnt even feed me lunch or give me a tshirt. the recruiter dealing with me in 2003 was.. i dunno... slacking off. i got to eat like a segment of a '6foot long sub' that some team had ordered and left in one of the break rooms, oh and a banana. during a _all_ day interview.
19:14 < Bradipo> Wow, that's a painful interview.
19:14 < Bradipo> _all_ day, really...
19:14 < miah> nono, the most painful is when they made me do a programming quiz, through google docs and wouldn't allow me to reference man pages or online documentation
19:15 < miah> though that was at the 2018 interview
19:15 < miah> ya i arrived at office at like 9am and left around 5pm
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19:15 < miah> good thing i already eat like a bird, but i was _starving_ when i left that place
19:16 < miah> anyways. google sucks. use open source software (that google didn't write) =)
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19:42 < deimosBSD> fwiw, i had the same experience at google in 2004, all day interview, zero food. I also eat like a bird....of prey and was willing to throw the whole day just get some food.
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19:43 < thrig> candidate showed initiative by eating some of our less productive engineers, recommend to hire
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19:44 < deimosBSD> and again in 2006, all day interview, zero food, sat in the same small room
19:44 < deimosBSD> until the very end when they gave me a tour of their new campus, including the kitchens
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20:33 < sibiria> does anyone know if openbsd has something similar to linux' "gai.conf" to tell the system resolver to prefer AAAA (or A) records from host lookup answers? 
20:35 < quinq> It has resolv.conf(5)
20:36 < sibiria> ah yeah, looks like it's tucked in there
20:36 < sibiria> thanks
20:36 < quinq> De nada :)
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20:38 < quinq> (btw, gai.conf isn't linux, it's glibc afaik)
20:38 < mps> quinq: right
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20:39 < sibiria> yeah i know it's for glibc's version of getaddrinfo() etc.
20:39 < mps> musl based linux distro don't have gai.conf
20:39 < quinq> 'k :)
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20:39 < mps> quinq: but I guess you know this well ;)
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20:43 < quinq> Well, I wouldn't say well, but it gives a bit of hint ^^
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20:46 < avemestr> miah: There's a reason leetcode exists...
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20:48 < miah> leetcode is also awful bullshit
20:48 < avemestr> miah: "Testing" candidates by giving them whiteboard CS algorithm questions ensures that they primarily hires people that are either desperate (unemployed, therefore lots of time to prepare) or young (fresh out of college). Or in other words: Cheaper than experienced people that are currently employed elsewhere already.
20:48 < miah> leetcode is certainly better than whiteboard tests, but how about looking at the code i linked on github rather than making me play games and just interviewing me like a person
20:49 < miah> you dont hire a mechanic by being like "oh heres a broken engine, fix it" you look at their credentials
20:49 < avemestr> "We're not selecting candidates by age... it just happens to be that the only 'qualified' are young or desperate enough to spend hundreds of hours on leetcode".
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20:49 < miah> 100% that
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