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19:10 < welcome> How are things with the new release? Any major problems of note?
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19:15 < tux0r> no.
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19:34 < lts> Tmux developed an issue with 7.6 about needing to lift Ctrl before pressing the command keys. Solved by manually adding bindings to .tmux.conf for ^Space and ^C etc
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19:42 < mischief> welcome: unfortunately, my internet connection is still 30Mbps uplink. openbsd 7.6 did not fix that... :'(
19:43 < Bradipo> lts: I'm not sure what you mean.
19:43 < Bradipo> Can you give an example that is repeatable?
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19:46 < vortexx> mischief: I have this issue also, but hopefully all the digging in the street a few months ago will solve that soon
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20:01 < lts> I would give a repeatable example how before 7.6 and still in Linux it works to keep ctrl pressed down when pressing the prefix and then a command, and in 7.6 you have to lift ctrl after pressing the prefix for the command to register, but Bradipo left before two minutes after
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22:49 < dfdx> Hi #openbsd. I think I know the answer to this but I just want to triple check. I have an encrypted hard disk that i'm using as a backup. I plan to set it aside and reformat my computer. After the reinstall, I should be able to plug the hard disk back in and mount it up with no problem, right? 
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23:00 < vortexx> dfdx: yes, so long as you know your password
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23:03 < avih> hi, i was trying something in /bin/ksh, and noticed that set -x appears to get canceled when entering a function (not subshell). i was wondering whether that's indeed the case, and if there's a way to keep its effect also when calling functions?
23:04 < dfdx> vortexx: thanks.
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23:04 < avih> test case: (x() { echo 123; }; set -x; x)
23:05 < avih> this traces the invocation of x, but not of echo 123
23:06 < avih> as far as i know, according to POSIX, the effect of set -x should not be canceled when a function is entered
23:07 < avih> (and it makes it really hard to debug a script, because the trace just stops inside any function)
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23:09 < phy1729> If you can find the line in POSIX that says it's required, the diff is  https://envs.sh/ctL.diff
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23:12 < avih> phy1729: thanks. afaict it only says this "The shell shall write to standard error a trace for each command after it expands the command and before it executes it. It is unspecified whether the command that turns tracing off is traced."
23:12 < avih> but all shells i know of (a lot) don't do that
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23:12 < avih> it certainly doesn't say it should stop when entering a function ;)
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23:14 < avih> i've managed to find the issue in my script though, and it's annoying. at some stage it does something like: printf "%s\n" "exclamation!"
23:14 < avih> and that exclamation seem to be replaced with a number, which i think is related to the history
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23:14 < phy1729> can you use single quotes instead?
23:15 < avih> no, because it's a parameter expansion: printf %s\\n "$foo"
23:15 < avih> the exclamation is in $foo
23:15 < phy1729> Then presumably foo was set incorrectly
23:16 < avih> oh.
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23:16 < avih> hmm.. it's set in double quotes indeed. that i can change. let me try.
23:16 < phy1729> I don't think histexpn is supposed to happen in double quotes though
23:17 < avih> it surprised me too, but iirc it's a tricky thing. ksh93u+m also disabled it iirc
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23:18 < avih> (while in the original ksh9393u it's enabled). but i'm not using ksh frequently, so i'm not sure of the details of when it gets expanded. sec, let me try to use single quotes. it's definitely not unquoted.
23:18 < avih> ksh93u *
23:18 < avih> (and i know that openbsd /bin/ksh is a derivative of pdksh)
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23:21 < avih> huh, i can't create a minimal test case, yet. and placing the original string in single quotes didn't help.
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23:27 < avih> phy1729: fwiw, the trace of the printf function shows this: + printf --  A(%s) %F{red}GIT_DIR!%f%b
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23:28 < avih> and the printf looks like this: printf -- "$fmt" "${var1}${var2}..."   where one of those vars (var1 actually) includes that "GIT_DIR!" string
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23:28 < avih> so it definitely looks ok at the printf line, and yet it prints a number...
23:29 < avih> and my most complex minimal test case still prints "!" correctly: x='foo!' y=; z=${x:-y}; printf -- "%s\\n" "$z")
23:30 < avih> (well "foo!")
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23:34 < avih> phy1729: maybe you want to try and reproduce it? it should be relatively easy. source (dot) this script - https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git/tree/contrib/completion/git-prompt.sh  (that's an html version, click the "plain" link to get raw text. feel free to grab it from your "git" source tree of your choice, but of at least 2.47, because i added there some compatibility fixes which allows it running in most shells, and i was just testing it on freebsd
23:34 < avih>  /bin/ksh)
23:36 < avih> once you dot it, go into some local git repo, and enter the .git dir, then run in sh: __git_ps1  , which should print GIT_DIR!, but instead it prints GIT_DIR<number>
23:39 < avih> wait, wtf.. it doesn't reproduce when invoked as i just described. ok. let me narrow it down a bit to something reproducible.
23:40 < avih> hmm... maybe PS1 expands it?
23:41 < avih> ffs yes: dot that script, then do: PS1='\w$(__git_ps1) \s ' <enter>, cd into some repo/.git/ and see how PS1 has GIT_DIR<number>
23:41 < avih> i should rtfm...
23:42 < quinq> Who wouldn't want 400 lines on shell script being evaluated everytime you press enter in your shell
23:42 < quinq> s/on/of/
23:42 < avih> great "User prompt displayed every time an interactive shell is ready to read a command. A ‘!’ in the prompt is expanded to the number of the next command in history to be typed."
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23:44 < phy1729> This is why zsh has psvar not that it helps here
23:44 < avih> quinq: true point. i have a bit smaller (and much faster) script of my own which should be a drop-in replacement, but that's off topic. fwiw, on linux my script is not more than ~ 5ms outside of a git repo, and ~ 20ms inside a git repo, while the original fir-prompt.sh is about 20ms/60ms respectively
23:45 < avih> s/fir/git/ damn kb fingers offset
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23:46 < avih> i now wonder what the script should do. one option is just to remove the "!". it wouldn't make "GIT-DIR" less legible...
23:46 < avih> but it is annoying...
23:47 < avih> quinq: i don't recall, do you use openbsd regularly?
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23:48 < quinq> Well, I'm here, am I not ^^
23:48 < avih> i don't have it installed but i use a live cd FujuIta, and it's real nice to be able to boot it in a vm ans start testing.
23:48 < avih> and*
23:49 < avih> quinq: you're in a lot of places :)
23:49 < quinq> And I use all of them ;)
23:49 < avih> :)
23:49 < quinq> IIRC you can escape it
23:50 < quinq> Might be \!
23:50 < quinq> Or doubling it
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23:50 < quinq> ye
23:50 < quinq> “A literal ‘!’ can be put in the prompt by placing ‘!!’ in PS1.”
23:50 < avih> the point is the script (original and mine) is supposed to work in a lot of shells, and i don't want to start detecting things more than necessary
23:51 < n6bsd> clear
23:51 < avih> it's weird though it didn't come up when i was testing it on linux (oksh and loksh). i wonder why.
23:52 < avih> wait, maybe i didn't do the all-shells comparison inside a git dir...
23:53 < quinq> Yeah because PS1='!$ ' shows the command number here
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23:54 < avih> yeah, it doesn't happen when i tested on linux. maybe because i invoked it as a stand alone script oksh path/to/git-prompt.sh  (my version can also work stand alone, while the original must be sourced and then invoke the function __git_ps1)
23:54 < avih> so i guess the history thing is probably in an interactive shell
23:55 < avih> and well, i definitely didn't test it in oksh PS1...
23:56 < avih> that is, untill now
23:57 < avih> i really like the system though (openbsd 7.6 in live cd). works very smoothly.
23:59 < avih> (just ssh remotely, and i did try invoking xterm after touching sshd_config and enabling x11 and root login, which also works fine)
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