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01:56 < Bradipo> Is there a package that will confert TFM fonts to something that can be used in documents other than TeX and LaTeX?
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02:01 < ssm_> Bradipo: I tried `pkg_locate tfm2` (nothing) and `pkg_locate tfmto` which gave me tfmtodit which can be used with groff -Tdvi (whatever that does)
02:01 < Bradipo> Interesting.
02:01 < Bradipo> I also found fontforge... not sure if it will be useful.
02:02 < ssm_> fontforge is good
02:02 < ssm_> masterclass in worst UI possible
02:03 < Bradipo> fontforge has a cli I thought.
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02:55 < ssm_> got supports http{,s} clone and send! I can finally delete my github account
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03:12 < thrig> I solved that problem by writing code nobody else works on
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04:02 < rnkn> haha
04:07 < rnkn> op2: any chance mblaze 1.3 will make it into 7.6, or should I just be patient?
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05:56 < ssm_> rnkn: 7.6 is already released. you can try backporting mblaze 1.3 from -current ports
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07:10 < IcePic> thrig: I solved it by writing code noone else wants to read!
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08:37 < shtrophic> Does the "transparent" option for TCP relays in relayd.conf(5) suffer from the problem described in https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/rdr.html#reflect ?
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08:38 < shtrophic> That is, hosts of an internal network cannot access internal services with the public IP address of the router
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09:27 < IcePic> shtrophic: I don't think so
09:27 < rnkn> ssm_: thanks, I don't really wanna mix -release and -current though
09:28 < IcePic> shtrophic: I think relayd still makes a new tcp connection (but just don't decode its content), whereas pf is only trying to rewrite the dest which is too late when exiting on the external if
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10:02 < shtrophic> IcePic but if it does change the source address, how is the target server supposed to know to send it back to the proxy server, instead of to the client directly?
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10:10 < op2> rnkn: we usually backport to -stable only for security issues or bad bugs
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11:48 < DoppelGanger> Hello everyone, I am missing something, tldr, I have had ipv6 working for the last 5 years via dhcpcd, upgraded to 7.6 so configured dhcp6lease to delegate prefix em0 wan(internet) em2 (lan) "request prefix delegation on em0 for { em2 }"  I get the prefix, I see the lovely route for em0 using netstat, i even had ipv6 working for a few hours and then it just all died so clearly I am missing 
11:48 < DoppelGanger> something.  em0 does not have an ipv6 prefix and even when it did that did not work.  any possible tips as to what I may be overlooking, yes dhcp6leased has been restarted, I have also rebooted, I have also triple checked pf nothing is being blocked. 
11:51 < mischief> you run rad?
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11:56 < DoppelGanger> yes
11:56 < DoppelGanger> configured with just interface em2 
11:57 < DoppelGanger> clients receive their ipv6 address and obviously i can ping6 internally but not externally not from router or clients
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12:01 < mischief> does dhcp6leasectl -l em0 show your prefix?
12:01 < DoppelGanger> previously my isp ( spectrum) assigned /128 to em0 and /64 to em2, I also replicated that config with dhcp6leased request prefix delegation on em0 for { em0/128 em2 } and tried request prefix delegation on em0 for { em0 em2 } of course i get the prefix on em0 and em2 with that string but still no ability to ping an ipv6 external address nor is ipv6 functional 
12:02 < DoppelGanger> @mischief it does 
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12:02 < DoppelGanger> netstat -rn -f inet6 | grep default 
12:02 < DoppelGanger> default                                     fe80::201:5cff:fe8c:2046%em0            UGS        1     2114     -     8 em0  
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14:27 < oen> dhcp6leased only gets a prefix delegation, a whole ipv6 network for your internal interface to use
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14:30 < oen> But you need a ipv6 address for your external interface as well, and if your isp does not provide that via slaac. Then you can't use the base openbsd tools. You'll have to use dhcpcd.
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14:32 < mischief> i don't have a global address on my egress, ipv6 seems to work fine from my lan and router. perhaps router is utilizing the global address on the internal interface somehow
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14:33 < Lucas_> rnkn: -stable backports are only for security fixes
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14:35 < oen> mischief: hmm I dont know, but I had this problem at home. I can get a prefix delegation just fine, but I got problems when I tried to use ipv6 outside of my network
14:35 < oen> I haven't had time to investigate further
14:36 < DoppelGanger> lol yes i have that issue as well that i am troubleshooting
14:36 < DoppelGanger> i turned off dhcp6leased and reactivated dhcpcd and got the following
14:36 < mischief> you can whois me and see i am using ipv6 from my lan at home right now for irc, so it's working somehow..
14:37 < DoppelGanger> to clarify for me it worked for a few hours yesterday then stopped working
14:37 < oen> dhcpcd uses something called ia_na, that gets a single dhcpv6 address for the external interface
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14:40 < mischief> i used to use dhcpcd, my previous config is at https://github.com/mischief/ansible/blob/master/roles/router/templates/dhcpcd.conf.j2
14:42 < DoppelGanger> https://pastejustit.com/orbxq3z4dq   routing table for dhcpcd vs dhcp6leased, can't determine what i am missing yet
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14:47 < mischief> do you pass in icmp6 and dhcpv6 on em0?
14:47 < DoppelGanger> yep
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14:48 < DoppelGanger> i can simply disable dhcp6lease and activate dhcpcd and everthing goes back to working 
14:48 < DoppelGanger> i checked firewall logs as well just to make sure i was not going mad, the frustrating part is yesterday it worked for a few hours and then just stopped
14:49 < DoppelGanger> i've been troubleshooting ever since hence i popped in here to see if I am just loosing my marbles as it has been one of those weeks
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14:51 < mischief> perhaps if you run dhcp6leased -dvv and rad -dvv manually from a root shell it will be enlightening
14:52 < DoppelGanger> k let me do that 
14:52 < oen> so do you have an ipv6 address on your external interface... I mean it needs to route the packets somewhere
14:52 < DoppelGanger> i appreciate the insight 
14:52 < DoppelGanger> oen on my external interface I do not have an ipv6 address show when i run ifconfig however it shows when dhcp6leasectl -l em0 is ran 
14:53 < oen> just to clearify, I don't have the solution, I have this exact same problem =)
14:53 < DoppelGanger> this corresponds to the ipv6 address on my internal interface
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14:55 < tvtoon> hum, router advertisement problem?
14:55 < oen> I think dhcp6leasectl shows only the prefix delegation for your internal interface, em0 shows up in the output because its telling you "hey I got this prefix delegation via em0"
14:57 < mischief> running dhcp6leased with -dvv will tell you as much
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14:58 < oen> If you use dhcpcd like in the configuration that mischief posted, It will get a non temporary andress (ia_na) for the external interface and a prefix delegation (ia_pd) for your internal net
15:01 < DoppelGanger> from the above commands https://pastejustit.com/1e0g5zdcnr
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15:05 < sibiria> ** server can't find pastejustit.com: SERVFAIL
15:06 < sibiria> ;pastejustit.com.     IN     A
15:06 < tvtoon> funny stuff, got problem on the registrar
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15:08 < DoppelGanger> fiar enough https://pastebin.com/eW7CE0DJ
15:08 < tvtoon> you are getting the IPV6 from RA
15:12 < DoppelGanger> sorry i am not understanding 
15:13 < tvtoon> your router is telling you which IPV6 should be used
15:14 < mischief> do you not get 2603:7081:4e00:a9ea::1 assigned to em2?
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15:14 < DoppelGanger> and that is the one i am using unless I am missing something
15:14 < DoppelGanger> yes 2603:7081:4e00:a9ea::1 is assigned to em2
15:15 < mischief> but you can't use it?
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15:16 < DoppelGanger> thats what i am saying the ipv6 address is assigned to em2 however there is no connectivity 
15:17 < tvtoon> I am no expert in the matter, just began checking this all some days ago, but if you get RA enabled it is a good starting point
15:17 < vortexx> since 7.6, when I run pkg_add -u in my update all the OpenBSD systems/VMs script, I'm getting this : Ambiguous: choose package for glib2-2.80.4 . This requires interactive use, which is a pita. Is there any way to pass the right option to pkg_add so I don't have this request all the damn time?
15:18 < mischief> DoppelGanger: what if you run, say ftp -VM6o - https://ifconfig.me/all.json
15:18 < DoppelGanger> mischief: it just hangs
15:19 < DoppelGanger> pastebin to show em2  and routing table https://pastebin.com/R7hSViQd
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15:19 < oen> what about em0 isn't that your egress interface
15:19 < mischief> you are missing a lot of entries in that routing table
15:20 < DoppelGanger> i only extracted the relevants parts 
15:20 < mischief> having a default route seems pretty relevant
15:20 < mischief> my system has a default route to fe80::201:5cff:fe63:ec46%rge0, i assume my upstream's router
15:20 < DoppelGanger> yes i had posted that earlier
15:20 < DoppelGanger> let me grab everything
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15:26 < DoppelGanger> https://pastebin.com/HppwGY5i
15:28 < mischief> what's ping6 2600:: say?
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15:30 < DoppelGanger> mischief: no joy, times out same as if i were to ping6 google.com
15:31 < mischief> there's a big difference between dns being broken and ipv6 being broken
15:32 < DoppelGanger> k ping the ip does not work 
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15:35 < mischief> what if you tcpdump -nvei em0 icmp6? do you see only echo req?
15:35 < mischief> might be useful to compare what you see vs when it works
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15:36 < DoppelGanger> yes i see teh echo req, yeah i have been flip flopping to try an narrow it down thats whats so frustrating, that and why did it work for hours yestereday then just stop 
15:37 < DoppelGanger> oh well, i think i will try some more stuff.  I appreciate all the hints everyone time to break everything and see what happens :)
15:38 < DoppelGanger> have a wonderful rest of your day 
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15:46 < DoppelGanger> k so that was quick, just like yesterday, i unplugged the connection to my internet, re-plugged it in and all of a sudden ipv6 is back to working again 
15:47 < DoppelGanger> no change made to any configs 
15:48 < sibiria> https://youtu.be/nn2FB1P_Mn8?t=8
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15:52 < DoppelGanger> https://pastebin.com/Ys4X9Xw8    
15:53 < DoppelGanger> pinging cloudflare:  64 bytes from 2606:4700:4700::1001: icmp_seq=0 hlim=56 time=28.746 ms
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15:54 < DoppelGanger> so when i unplug my cable modem and plug it back in i get ipv6 and then it will probably timeout at some random time in the future
15:55 < RobbieAB> cable modem not renewing reservations with the ISP on the correct schedule?
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15:56 < DoppelGanger> possibly i am setting everything to log and see what debugging rabit hole this puts me in 
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15:58 < RobbieAB> I think I have seen this type of issue when running a non-ISP router when I got the refresh configuration wrong my end.
16:00 < DoppelGanger> I have nothing but this line in request prefix delegation on em0 for { em2 } in dhcp6leased, any pointers you may have would be appreciated
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16:58 < kucha> vortexx: i'm surprised you get an ambiguity prompt on -u'pdate. i thought it was on installing new packages only. anyhow, pkg_add(1) mentions this option: "-I Force non-interactive mode."
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17:12 < vortexx> kucha: I thought it was at install only too but I have glib on every system because of duplicity. -I does the trick though thanks
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17:51 < oldlaptop> even if it didn't, there's always yes(1)
17:57 < thrig> https://youtu.be/R_rF4kcqLkI?t=105
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20:57 < gnucode> hey openbsd friends!  I'm reading man afterboot  This is the second time that I have daily drove OpenBSD.  I'm using it on a T400 librebooted laptop.  Any advice for cool programs or games that I should try?
20:58 < gnucode> I set up pf.conf and httpd to locally serve my website
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21:01 < jcs> the games in /usr/games are pretty rad
21:02 < jcs> or try to cause a kernel panic and play hangman in ddb
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21:06 < seninha> gnucode, pretty much anything you'd run on linux (except for games, whose list is smaller)
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21:07 < seninha> gnucode, for games in the base install, i like to play mille(6) while waiting for compilations
21:08 < sibiria> iirc there is a site all about "openbsd gaming", with suggestions for titles that run well on openbsd
21:08 < ssm_> gnucode: https://openports.pl/cat/games I like cataclysm-dda stone-soup. Got my eye on pioneer as well, plan to update oolite at some point.
21:08 < ssm_> sibiria gnucode: yes, playonbsd.com
21:08 < ssm_> oh yeah can't forget minetest (renamed to luanti, port name should change at some point)
21:09 < kucha> stone-soup++!
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21:10 < mischief> 0ad and cataclysm are good.
21:10 < gnucode> ssm_: well I am using OpenBSD on a T400.  So I think it has OpenGL1 only.  :( 
21:10 < ssm_> cataclysm just got a new release, I got a patch on ports@ if you want to build it; should patch cleanly still against HEAD
21:11 < ssm_> gnucode: you can check with glxinfo | grep 'profile version'
21:11 < gnucode> I am going to fire up my Dell Optiplex 7010 in a few days with OpenBSD again.  That probably have a higher OpenGL version.
21:12 < gnucode> OpenGL ES profile version OpenGL ES 2.0  
21:12 < gnucode> GLES1 version: 1.1
21:12 < ssm_> I think cataclysm supports ES 2.0
21:13 < ssm_> it does, you can set Renderer to opengles2 in the Graphics menu
21:13 < ssm_> and if that fails, there's also a curses version (though that's harder to get into as a new player I think)
21:14 < thrig> curses is bad at showing stuff like what corpses need smashing
21:14 < ssm_> yeah :(
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21:15 < gnucode> by the way, here's my first attempt at setting up pf.conf  https://clbin.com/PCx58  
21:16 < seninha> that's why i play nethack on x11 only
21:16 < seninha> curses is cursed
21:16 < ssm_> here's patch if you want: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=173241224613181&w=2 I also have prepatched in my ports collection at ssh://gotanon@howdoesmycode.work/ports
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21:20 < ssm_> gnucode: what are your Max core profile version and Max compat profile version in glxinfo? GLES1 version is 1.1 for me on my very new hardware as well so that might not be indicative of your actual gl support
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21:23 < seninha> gnucode, i think you should rather log the blocked packets rather than passed ones
21:23 < seninha> so you can see what is being blocked and fix fine-tune your pf.conf accordingly
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21:23 < gnucode> ssm_: https://clbin.com/Vrent  
21:24 < gnucode> seninha: ok.  Thanks!
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21:26 < ssm_> gnucode: yeah, that's pretty limiting
21:26 < ssm_> for games anyways. Cataclysm should be playable at least, it's mostly a cpu hog and support your gl version
21:27 < seninha> btw, dumping logged packets at real time: `doas tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0` and saved: `doas tcpdump -n -e -ttt -r /var/log/pflog`
21:27 < gnucode> thanks!
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21:44 < gnucode> what an easy way to back up my /etc  ?  general filesystem backup ?  rsync  git repo ?
21:46 < mischief> pick your poison
21:47 < gnucode> fair enough.
21:48 < gnucode> also, when I am opening up the manual pages on OpenBSD, I am seeing a lot of ???  .  Do I need to install a certain font or something?
21:49 < seninha> gnucode, depends on how you are reading it
21:49 < seninha> man on terminal?
21:49 < seninha> or troff-generated pdf?
21:52 < seninha> if on terminal, yeah, that's probably a issue on your terminal emulator's font config
21:52 < sibiria> or LC_* setting
21:52 < sibiria> and/or LANG
21:53 < seninha> yeah, or that
21:53 < sibiria> gnucode: try: export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
21:53 < gnucode> will do. thanks.
21:54 < sibiria> try setting LC_ALL to the same. see what happens
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21:57 < gnucode> sibiria: I opened up a terminal, ran export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 && LANG=en_US.UTF-8  
21:57 < gnucode> the same with LC_ALL
21:57 < gnucode> then I typed in man man.  Lots of question marks.  not lots.  But like 5 or 6 spots of 6 question marks each.
21:58 < gnucode> It looks like ??? is replacing ' or ` 
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21:58 < gnucode> maybe I need to log out and log back in again after I put those lines in .profile
21:58 < seninha> gnucode, you must export those before opening the terminal
21:59 < seninha> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 xterm
21:59 < seninha> ^ like this
21:59 < seninha> or on .profile
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22:00 < gnucode> kk
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22:02 < gnucode> I put it in .profile  I'm gonna log out and double check.
22:02 < gnucode> ssm_: that looks like a large patch.  And your website is cool.  First time I saw a gotweb in the wild.
22:07 < ssm_> gnucode: patch is large, but it's mostly just the PLIST. the actual diff on the makefile is basically just switching from the legacy GH_* macros over to the newer DIST_TUPLE
22:07 < seninha> cool domain too
22:08 < ssm_> I actually want to switch it, since bigmail filters hate .work domains for whatever reason; I always get autospammed :S
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22:10 < seninha> my .org also gets autospammed
22:10 < seninha> bigmail just hate selfhost
22:10 < ssm_> yeah :(
22:11  * seninha got a college assignment score zeroed after outlook voided the mail sent to his professor
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23:33 < TommyC> Similar thing almost happened to me. Professor said he received my assignment late so he took 10% off but I told him I didn't send it late. Went to his office with laptop, sent e-mail to him in front of him and it didn't go within 15 min. so I left and he said he got it 4 hours later. Gave me back my 10%.
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