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06:27 < terminaldweller> is there a manpage that explains what the default groups are? operator, staff,...?
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07:00 < unpx> terminaldweller: my stupid idea is ``less /etc/group'', then ``man groups'' to see how to use it, but I'm pretty sure you cna find what you are looking for there
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07:19 < terminaldweller> ok. ill give that a try. thanks.
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10:40 < al1r4d>  i have a hugo static site generator at /home/user/www/static/.. how to make it works with httpd? do i need put that on /var/www/htdocs?    
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10:54 < quinq> al1r4d, by default httpd is chrooted to /var/www
10:54 < quinq> So yeah, one way on serving it would be to move the contents to somewhere in that path
10:54 < quinq> Could also chroot it in /home/user/www/
10:54 < quinq> Several solutions
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11:00 < mischief> perhaps symlink /home/$USER/www/static to /var/www/htdocs/static and chown it to your user
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13:54 < al1r4d> okay, thank you, quinq, mischief
13:54 < al1r4d> i use symlink
13:57 < quinq> :)
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15:56 < kuzdra> TIL i can use ":t" to jump to a keyword (section, function, flag, subcommand, etc.) definition in man(1). a ctags-format file is generated and passed along to less(1) to enable this functionality. so cool
15:57 < kuzdra> i was thinking about some kind of semantic search in man pages just another day. plain text search in man pages like ksh(1) is just painful
16:00 < sibiria> kuzdra: man.ifconfig.se might help you
16:02 < kuzdra> sibiria: i didn't know about this site, thank you. i will come in handy some time too
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16:04 < kuzdra> i wonder whether this tag search in man/mandoc is mentioned somewhere more prominently than man(1)'s ENVIRONMENT section and mandoc(1)'s -O'utput options
16:05 < kuzdra> definitely would have been worth to have it listed among https://why-openbsd.rocks/fact/
16:07 < kuzdra> when i said "semantic search" i meant some kind of ToC and within a single man page. say, i want to look up the definition of ksh "set". just "man ksh", "/\<set\>" (or any other sort of plain text search) takes forever to get there
16:09 < kuzdra> now, "man ksh", ":tset", and then t/T -- is a whole new ball game (-:
16:10 < kuzdra> s/i will come in handy/it will come in handy/ # oops
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17:09 < jab> heyo friends!
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17:14 < quinq> hesho amigo
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17:18 < jab> quinq: what are you up to?
17:19 < quinq> cooking the ramen
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17:22 < jab> quinq: I love ramen ?  Can I have some?
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17:22 < quinq> Well, sure, you can have the egg
17:23 < jab> awesome!
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17:23 < jab> I'll just now need your address, phone number, birth certificate, social security number, facebook password/username, etc.  You can trust me.  I'm an internet stranger.
17:24 < quinq> I live in Sofia
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17:27 < jab> No idea where that in.  I'm in the midwest.  :)  
17:31 < quinq> There's not much more than the ocean mid-west from here
17:32 < kuzdra> quinq: Sofia as in Bulgaria?
17:33 < quinq> Yeah
17:33 < quinq> You can trust me, I'm an Internet
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17:53 < jab> :)
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18:55 < emmanuelux> hello is someone has seen a problem of "blocked tcp connections" in openbsd with hyper-v (problem since last windows update)
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19:40 < yang3> this is the output of the 'gcc' failed build on loongson https://paste.debian.net/hidden/5a7c381f/
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22:03 < sibiria> anyone here using USB-ethernet and have experience with any chip that can reach 250 mbit/s or more?
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22:12 < gnucode> I just had a cool thought.
22:12 < gnucode> OpenBSD is relinking the kernel and software daemons at every reboot.
22:13 < gnucode> How wild would it be for it to rewrite the binary during execution?  Probably really hard to develop / debug.  BUT also harder to break into I imagine...
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22:14 < armani> sibiria: I got good results with axen iirc
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22:14 < gnucode> Someone was telling when he was developing code for the US military, they did that to prevent people from breaking into it or something.
22:15 < armani> sibiria: uaq could be worth looking too 
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22:20 < oldlaptop> gnucode: I'm not sure what that would mean in context. The concrete reason OpenBSD relinks the kernel and libc (not "daemons" as far as I'm aware, although almost all of them will be dynamically linked against libc) is to make their layout in memory less predictable.
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22:22 < oldlaptop> This has important implications for one of the remaining ways to exploit buffer overrun attacks, without the ability to write anything to a memory location and then execute it, which is to find bits of executable memory in predictable locations that more or less happen to do something useful (to the attacker); the term to look up is "return-oriented programming".
22:23 < oldlaptop> OpenBSD randomizes the addresses where things like the program's own code and libc's code are located to begin with, and because libc is so big and so often used for ROP gadgets, randomizes things inside libc.
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22:23 < oldlaptop> I'm not sure what "rewriting the binary during execution" would be good for; depending on what you mean by that, it could rule out the W^X policy that forces the attacker to waste time with ROP in the first place.
22:24 < oldlaptop> (That would be counterproductive.)
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22:40 < gnucode> oldlaptop: yeah I lack comprehensive reply!  It was just something that I heard my military friend talking about.  I guess their goal was to stop Chinese hackers from stealing their code of something like that.  Perhaps it is not really something that would benefit OpenBSD.
22:40 < gnucode> oldlaptop: thanks for the comprehensive reply! 
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22:41 < gnucode> also what is lockd  ?  I saw it in rc.d and man lockd apparently doesn't exist
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22:50 < oldlaptop> http://man.openbsd.org/rpc.lockd
22:57 < gnucode> grrrr. how did I miss that!
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22:58 < gnucode> man -k lockd would have found it.
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