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00:11 < yang3> ok
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00:24 < thrig> ... unless someone screwed up the Makefile, which is generally not the case on OpenBSD
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01:39 < cantelope> One does not simply "stop" a male file
01:40 < cantelope> make*
01:40  * cantelope facepalm
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04:45 < jcs> or just hibernate the laptop
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04:52 < mischief> jcs: it's a lemote. do they support that? :)
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10:16 < vapn> hi, i'm trying to install openbsd on an older machine. it's bios boot only, no efi, but the disk partition table is gpt and there are existing windows and linux partitions, and grub is setup with a small "grub bios boot" partition. the openbsd installer refuses to proceed because there's no efi system partition, is there any way to bypass this?
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11:05 < IcePic> vapn: an easy way is to either virtualize openbsd on one of the two existing OSes, or grab yet another old box and just have one OS on it
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14:39 < jcs> oh they left
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21:25 < yang3> how to fix this pkg_add error ? https://paste.debian.net/1340165/
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21:27 < brynet> yang3: is your date/time set correctly?
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21:27 < yang3> it is
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21:31 < brynet> that error implies differently
21:32 < Bradipo> yang3: What does: ftp -o - https://ftp.OpenBSD.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.6/packages-stable/amd64/
21:32 < Bradipo> Or you could use /dev/null instead of -
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21:35 < yang3> ftp -o - https://ftp.OpenBSD.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.6/packages-stable/amd64/
21:35 < yang3> Trying 199.185.178.81...
21:35 < yang3> TLS handshake failure: ocsp verify failed: ocsp response not current
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21:37 < uwharrie> is ntpd running?
21:39 < yang3> https://paste.debian.net/1340169/
21:39 < Bradipo> What does the date command output?
21:40 < uwharrie> and what about `ntpctl -s peers` ?
21:40 < brynet> time is wrong.
21:40 < Bradipo> That timestamps is way off.
21:40 < Bradipo> Mon Dec 16 02:23:50 CET 2024 is in the past.
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21:40 < yang3> indeed time is wrong
21:40 < yang3> but why
21:41 < uwharrie> lots of different reasons could cause it
21:41 < Bradipo> If this is a new install, did you set the time during the installation?
21:41 < Bradipo> Usually it prompts you if the time is off.
21:41 < uwharrie> system time in local time instead of UTC or bad clock battery are the most common causes
21:41 < yang3> https://paste.debian.net/1340170/
21:41 < Bradipo> Though, I'm not sure how you got it installed if the time was wrong.
21:42 < yang3> yes, it can be a bad battery, I didnt replace it in 10 years
21:42 < yang3> Bradipo i cant remember
21:42 < yang3> Bradipo oh yes, I've set it to CET
21:42 < uwharrie> if usually do something like `rcctl stop ntpd; rdate pool.ntp.org; rcctl start ntpd`
21:42 < Bradipo> Well, setting the timezone shouldn't change the actual "time".
21:43 < Bradipo> And I usually hack /etc/rc to add back in a call to rdate before everything starts. :-)
21:43  * Bradipo is sad that it was ever removed from /etc/rc.
21:44 < sibiria> i just add it to rc.local and to root's crontab
21:44 < uwharrie> would be nice if it could go live as an option in /etc/rc.d/ntpd, but I've trashed all my toy systems without a battery backed clock
21:44 < yang3> uwharrie, ok now it works, thank you all
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21:46 < brynet> yang3: you should probably run syspatch before you go installing packages, as you likely haven't installed them yet.
21:46 < yang3> is it supposed to fail on the next reboot, because of the bad battery?
21:46 < Bradipo> define "fail".
21:46 < yang3> i have installed a few
21:46 < yang3> i mean will I get the same error next time, if the clock shifts?
21:47 < yang3> I am installing them from the root account...
21:47 < yang3> pkg_add
21:48 < Bradipo> If you power it off and power it on with a bad battery, it will likely come up with the wrong time, yes.
21:48 < Bradipo> Though, I thought OpenBSD inspected the fs for a timestamp and set it off of that as a last resort.
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21:49 < yang3> Bradipo, yes I will do that
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21:49 < brynet> the date will persist, not like it was wildely off.
21:49 < brynet> wildly*
21:49 < yang3> maybe I could set the proper time in the BIOS
21:50 < yang3> but if the battery is depleted, then it wont be saved
21:50 < uwharrie> the hope is that the system isn't turned off longer than the duration that ntpd can fix
21:50 < brynet> OpenBSD adjusts the hardware clock, so it will be reflected in the BIOS.
21:50 < tvtoon> if your system got bad RTC battery, you can sync trough ntpd
21:50 < yang3> right
21:51 < typicat> :q
21:51 < uwharrie> ntpd has limits to the magnitude of error it can handle, hence the need to force the clock to the correct time with rdate before turning it on
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21:52 < yang3> okay
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