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can't seem to get it working 02:35 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 02:38 < ssm_> looking at the Makefile, seems like no 02:39 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40 < thrig> thus avoiding a CVE or two 02:41 < byteskeptical> yeah nope 02:44 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 02:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:50 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has quit [Quit: "Prepare to deploy..."] 02:52 < ssm_> managed to build it with sixel support, wasn't very difficult 02:52 < ssm_> one must assume security through obscurity 02:54 < ssm_> quite laggy, but it works 02:55 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 02:59 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:05 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 03:09 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:13 -!- wasab1ch [~wasab1ch@user/wasab1ch] has joined #openbsd 03:14 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 03:17 -!- markmcb2 is now known as markmcb 03:19 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has joined #openbsd 03:25 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 03:32 -!- dostoevsky [~dostoevsk@user/dostoevsky] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:36 < jrmu> one of the devices on the network is sending fradulent ARP responses, is it possible for me to use packet filter 03:36 < jrmu> to firewall by physical address? I checked arp and ARP seems to require manually configuring every single ip address if I want to configure that statically, there seems no way to 'drop all ARP info for one single physical address' 03:36 < jrmu> this was the first time I had an incorrectly configured device attempt to poison the entire subnet's arp table 03:39 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:44 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 03:47 -!- archcezar [~archcezar@83.21.117.17.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:49 -!- archcezar [~archcezar@83.21.68.93.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl] has joined #openbsd 03:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:54 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@185.209.196.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:54 -!- zip100 [~zip100@185.209.196.197] has joined #openbsd 03:55 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 03:56 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 03:56 < jcs> you could set a static arp entry for just that ip pointing to the correct mac address 03:57 < jcs> see man page for arp -s 04:04 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openbsd 04:06 -!- RypPn [~RypPn@user/ryppn] has quit [Quit: Real-time updating is paused. 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I take IRC seriously.] 04:39 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:39 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 04:44 -!- Aedil [~adrian@ip923469d0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openbsd 04:44 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 04:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:54 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@125.69.99.145] has joined #openbsd 04:54 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@125.69.99.145] has quit [Client Quit] 04:54 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 04:55 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 04:56 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openbsd 04:59 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:02 < jrmu> jcs: the problem is that mac address is trying to claim all the IPv4 addresses in the subnet, I did try arp -s but that only fixes one IP address I think? 05:03 < jrmu> if I'm not mistaken, I'd have to run arp -s 128 times for the /25 subnet I have 05:05 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 05:19 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:20 -!- eniac [~eniac@user/eniac] has joined #openbsd 05:24 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 05:25 < systemdsucks> for ip in $(seq 128);do arp -s 1 192.168.1.$ip;done 05:26 < systemdsucks> quite hacky but might work 05:26 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:27 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:27 -!- dastain [~dastain@2a00:d880:6:262::45a3] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:30 -!- jonf [~jjf@c-174-166-163-232.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:30 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 05:30 -!- jonf [~jjf@c-174-166-163-232.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 05:34 -!- dastain [~dastain@2a00:d880:6:262::45a3] has joined #openbsd 05:39 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:39 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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On trying it, however, I get a snapshot that includes hardly any files, and I think its something to do with having an extra user setup (not doing everything out of root DIR) 09:35 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 09:36 < Intrepid> I recall reading somewhere that when it does a standard backup it backups up everything in the /root directory, so I just tried copying everything I want backing up (is currently in a custom download folder under a user whose directory lies under /home) to the /root DIR but now it reports running out of space whilst doing a verbose cp. a df -h 09:36 < Intrepid> reveals no shortage of space, but then neither does it show /root and how much space is there... I've got an encrypted drive (done as part of the 7.6 guided install process) 09:37 < Intrepid> oh, and the encrypted drive had the default a-l partitioning (so sd0a sd0g, sd0l etc.) 09:39 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:39 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openbsd 09:39 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41 -!- finkfox [~finkfox@user/finkfox] has joined #openbsd 09:43 < metavoid> why use the defaults? 09:43 < metavoid> if its problematic 09:44 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:45 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 09:45 < Intrepid> (1) I'm not sure if it is the actual problem here (2) using defaults often makes life easier under many different scenarios be they following online guides or installations where defaults are expected, and problems tend to be created when they arent.. 09:48 -!- finkfox [~finkfox@user/finkfox] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:49 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has joined #openbsd 09:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 09:56 -!- Intrepid [~Intrepid@194.15.111.177] has quit [Quit: Intrepid] 09:59 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 10:04 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 10:06 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:06 -!- h3artbl33d [~h3artbl33@user/h3artbl33d] has joined #openbsd 10:09 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11 -!- struchu [~struchu@31.183.191.0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11 -!- struchu [~struchu@31.183.191.0] has joined #openbsd 10:11 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:14 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 10:29 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:33 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openbsd 10:34 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 10:34 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 10:36 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 10:37 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 10:41 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:47 -!- ChubaDuba [~ChubaDuba@46.147.209.135] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2] 10:48 -!- ChubaDuba [~ChubaDuba@46.147.209.135] has joined #openbsd 10:49 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has joined #openbsd 10:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 10:51 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:53 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 11:00 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:03 -!- kuzdra [~kuzdra@user/kuzdra] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 11:09 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10 -!- eki [~eki@159-255-247-158.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:14 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 11:14 -!- sandbag [~sandbag@user/sandbag] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:15 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 11:16 -!- sandbag [~sandbag@user/sandbag] has joined #openbsd 11:19 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 11:21 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:22 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 11:23 -!- housemate [~housemate@pa49-185-191-168.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Nothing to see here. 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(compared to e.g. em(4) or re(4)) I have the opportunity to get a Dell R230 that would actually fit in my shallow serverrack, but if I can't use it as a server, it would still be an expensive paperweight. Does bge(4) actually reach 1Gbps on the BCM7520?... I know re(6) didn't on the older realtek ports I had... 16:46 -!- lcubed [~lcubed@user/lcubed] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:47 -!- mikewilzn [609e48c489@user/mikewilzn] has left #openbsd [Disconnected: Hibernating too long] 16:49 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51 -!- Geertiebear [~quassel@managarm/dev/Geertiebear] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 16:51 < moviuro> (I really meant re(4) but re(6) referencing a toy actually also makes sense, given how bad the performance was) 16:52 -!- Geertiebear [~quassel@vmi527389.contaboserver.net] has joined #openbsd 16:52 -!- Geertiebear [~quassel@vmi527389.contaboserver.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:52 -!- Geertiebear [~quassel@managarm/dev/Geertiebear] has joined #openbsd 16:52 < lts> AFAIK openbsd.amsterdam runs on those, you should be fine https://openbsd.amsterdam/servers.html 16:52 -!- lcubed [~lcubed@user/lcubed] has joined #openbsd 16:53 < lts> I also have a re(4) (RTL8168H) card on my router, easily saturates the 1Gbps link 16:53 < moviuro> *BCM5720 - really gotta do something about my fingers being full of butter. Thanks lts, I'll have a look 16:54 < moviuro> re0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x06: RTL8168E/8111E-VL (0x2c80), msi, address ... <- this one was 🤮 as awful as it gets 16:54 < sibiria> i have 8168(something) on one of mine, but openbsd suffers a bug that causes it to crash whenever the CPU frequency changes. but if i lock it down it saturates 1gbps without any problems 16:54 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 16:55 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has joined #openbsd 16:55 < sibiria> specifically i have this: re0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x11: RTL8168G/8111G 16:55 < sibiria> 1 gbps without any mentionable CPU% 16:55 < sibiria> 816x series chips are fine. openbsd's re(4) driver is not 16:56 -!- Geertiebear [~quassel@managarm/dev/Geertiebear] has quit [Client Quit] 16:57 -!- Geertiebear [~quassel@managarm/dev/Geertiebear] has joined #openbsd 17:00 < jrmu> martian67: hm that would be a possibility if I had used openbsd for the switch, but currently the way I have it setup is I have a switch that connects to the openbsd router, and that switch handles all the bridging, so I don't have a bridge device on the router 17:01 < jrmu> I was thinking about 1) buying more interface cards for the router to make it a bridge/switch also, or 2) breaking up the /25 subnet into smaller /27 subnets 17:03 < moviuro> jrmu: how about you move the filtering closer to the client? Can't your WAP/switch identify misbehaving clients that would try to ARP too many addresses? 17:04 < jrmu> yeah, I guess I need to check that. 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ZZZzzz…] 19:15 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 19:19 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23 -!- ficonni [~ficonni@213.196.101.110] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:23 -!- Aedil [~adrian@ip923469d0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:24 -!- angues [~snakes@user/Snakes] has joined #openbsd 19:25 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 19:26 < gustik> linksys 19:27 < gustik> realtek ... that's a 10 year old discussion 19:27 < gustik> I gave up on realtek network cards in 2015 19:28 < gustik> and ppl were saying ONLY openbsd and dragonflybsd (ported from openbsd) driver can do gigabit 19:28 < gustik> freebsd and linux hit max at around 700mbps 19:29 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31 -!- chasmo77 [~chas77@c-76-105-254-179.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 19:32 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 19:33 -!- earthw0rmjim [~earthworm@user/earthwormjim] has quit [Quit: Toodles] 19:34 -!- gotohello [~gotohello@user/gotohello] has joined #openbsd 19:34 < lts> I do have some Intel cards but have never had a reason to replace the realtek one. Internal vlans are handled by a much faster Intel ix(4) card 19:35 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 19:36 < lts> (And the reason why external Internet is on a different card is so that it can have a smaller bandwidth queue than the internal card) 19:36 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has joined #openbsd 19:39 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 19:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:54 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has quit [Quit: wnh] 19:54 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has left #openbsd [] 19:54 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has joined #openbsd 19:54 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 19:55 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has quit [Client Quit] 19:55 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has joined #openbsd 19:55 -!- namaste [~namaste@user/xyk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:57 < gustik> for me Intel cards have been performing very well 19:57 < gustik> no issues 19:59 < tommyrot> same, realtek is trash 19:59 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59 < tommyrot> i don't buy into the statement openbsd's driver just sucks 19:59 < tommyrot> realtek is unreliable in linux as well 20:00 < sibiria> the few problems i've had with realtek in almost 25 years have all been in openbsd. no problems seen on the exact same computer with linux or windows 20:01 < sibiria> people like to hold on to old experiences. realtek did a booboo with some model/batch of 8139 about 25 years ago or so, and some who were bitten by it refuse to let go of the trauma 20:02 < sibiria> realtek's chips are on every dang consumer motherboard, hundreds of millions of them, in the last 20+ years. if there'd be fundamental problems with the chips there'd be widespread news about it. but there isn't 20:02 < tommyrot> in my current machine i use a 15yr old intel card instead of the onboard realtek 8111H, which slows down at random or stalls after which it won't come back up 20:02 < sibiria> they're in thousands of SoHo (and enterprise) switch models, too 20:02 < lts> I did have a HP pizzabox made in 2020 which had a Realtek card that started to drop packets under load 20:02 < lts> (on Linux) 20:03 < sibiria> if realtek can be faulted for something it's that they're not as open as they should be about hardware documentation in order to facilitate non-windows 20:03 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@bsd.am] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.0 - https://znc.in] 20:03 -!- mlw [~mlw@41.73.193.26] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 20:05 -!- mlw [~mlw@41.73.193.26] has joined #openbsd 20:07 < gustik> OK 20:08 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@bsd.am] has joined #openbsd 20:08 < sibiria> tommyrot: and in the 3 recent server/router machines i've used the past 10 years there's been realtek only, and has performed admirably without fault. so what's your point? :D 20:08 < tommyrot> you just have to be lucky then i suppose 20:09 < sibiria> no, i think my experience is the dominant norm. it's you who've been unlucky 20:09 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09 < tommyrot> i was about to say "or not unlucky" :) 20:09 < gustik> wait, someone is wrong on the internet 20:09 < sibiria> if realtek did not work "on average", everyone and their grandma would be complaining about constant network problems. in the consumer sphere, the enterprise sphere, etc. 20:09 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:10 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10 < gustik> "normal ppl" do not saturate a gigabit link for hours in a row 20:10 < gustik> most realtek problems appear under load, which "normal users" do not experience 20:10 < tommyrot> or use anything other than windows 20:10 < tommyrot> still, even if the chips are fine, if the drivers are lacking than my experience is the same: bad 20:11 < gustik> also the argument, that realtek is soldered on mainboards is not so true ... because yes, realtek is widespread but not on enterprise class mainboards, like asrock may have realtek, but asrock-rack does have an intel one 20:11 < sibiria> i'm subject to realtek problems under openbsd as well. but i realize it's openbsd, not realtek, at fault 20:11 < sibiria> it's annoying but fingers should be pointed in the right direction 20:12 < gustik> no 20:12 < gustik> I do not agree here too 20:12 < gustik> there will be always issues with one or other operating system 20:12 < gustik> because these or that driver is bad or worse 20:12 < gustik> the point is, it happens with realtek often and with intel very rare 20:13 < sibiria> i've personally had more woes (3) with intel NICs than realtek (2). whose anecdote wins? 20:14 < gustik> my broadcom wins 20:15 < sibiria> they really should be more open with documentation to help other OSes than windows, and other applications than e.g. network switches. that's definitely a major fault of theirs 20:15 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 20:15 < sibiria> i don't even know if the problem i'm having is in re(4) or elsewhere in the openbsd kernel. it really could be either 20:19 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has joined #openbsd 20:19 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21 -!- WhyNotHugo [~WhyNotHug@anchor.whynothugo.nl] has joined #openbsd 20:21 -!- tuftedocelot [~tuftedoce@2a03:6000:1019::57] has joined #openbsd 20:22 < tommyrot> but you have realtek problems so in reality we just agree on the topic realtek sucks? :) 20:22 < tommyrot> do you recall what intel chips did you had issues with? 20:23 < sibiria> if i boot linux or windows on the same PC i have no issues with that network, so i guess i'm having openbsd problems 20:23 -!- miojo [~mns@177.37.133.197] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23 < sibiria> tommyrot: two different chips on em(4) on pro/1000 gbit 20:23 < sibiria> can't recall the third one, something newer 20:24 < tommyrot> hm ok, that's what i'm using currently 20:25 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 20:25 -!- earthwormjim [~earthworm@user/earthwormjim] has joined #openbsd 20:26 -!- earthwormjim [~earthworm@user/earthwormjim] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20:27 -!- earthwormjim [~earthworm@user/earthwormjim] has joined #openbsd 20:29 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 20:32 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 20:35 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 20:36 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@bsd.am] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.0 - https://znc.in] 20:37 -!- Zeftax [~Zeftax@user/Zeftax] has joined #openbsd 20:39 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40 -!- antranigv [~antranigv@bsd.am] has joined #openbsd 20:40 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has joined #openbsd 20:41 -!- mlw [~mlw@41.73.193.26] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 20:45 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 20:49 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:49 -!- adig_ [~default@109.166.138.98] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has joined #openbsd 20:52 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:52 -!- Noisytoot [~noisytoot@user/meow/Noisytoot] has joined #openbsd 20:55 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 20:59 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00 -!- km [~km@biz.krot.org] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 21:00 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@ppp-115-87-227-115.revip4.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 21:47 < byteskeptical> hiya 21:48 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:48 < macarona> greetings 21:48 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 21:48 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:52 -!- UDENIX [~UDENIX@user/udenix] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@2600:6c98:a040:89:c82:a09f:efaf:71a8] has joined #openbsd 21:53 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@2600:6c98:a040:89:c82:a09f:efaf:71a8] has quit [Changing host] 21:53 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 21:57 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:58 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1002:3700:43aa:8b71:1806:8655] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:59 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 22:05 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:05 -!- noone [~six@user/six] has joined #openbsd 22:07 -!- UDENIX [~UDENIX@user/udenix] has joined #openbsd 22:09 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09 < admin1234> My clbin the other day on setting up the "perfect OpenBSD server" was highly incomplete. My apologies. 22:09 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:10 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:10 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has joined #openbsd 22:15 -!- bylzz [~bylzz@hostname.se] has quit [Quit: bylzz] 22:15 -!- miojo [~mns@177.37.133.197] has joined #openbsd 22:15 -!- bylzz [~bylzz@hostname.se] has joined #openbsd 22:19 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has joined #openbsd 22:24 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:27 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:29 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31 -!- user03 [~gchound@2601:280:c300:8d0:cc54:80cb:67be:2333] has joined #openbsd 22:31 -!- user03 [~gchound@2601:280:c300:8d0:cc54:80cb:67be:2333] has quit [Changing host] 22:31 -!- user03 [~gchound@user/gchound] has joined #openbsd 22:34 -!- miojo [~mns@177.37.133.197] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:34 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:39 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:45 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:46 -!- gumnos [~gumnos@2600:382:2b22:b3fc:ba70:f4ff:fe1e:1ef2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:48 -!- gumnos [~gumnos@2600:382:2b22:b3fc:ba70:f4ff:fe1e:1ef2] has joined #openbsd 22:48 -!- megawatt [~megawatt@user/megawatt] has left #openbsd [] 22:49 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 22:52 -!- ztevoz [~ztevoz@82-64-207-56.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:55 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 22:56 -!- AlaskanEmily [~AlaskanEm@user/alaskanemily] has joined #openbsd 22:57 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:58 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has joined #openbsd 22:59 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 23:07 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07 -!- martian67 [~martian67@user/meow/martian67] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has joined #openbsd 23:08 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has joined #openbsd 23:08 -!- adip [~adip@c145-14.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:08 < admin1234> Here's the full version: https://medium.com/@oowae5a/openbsd-vs-linux-for-ruby-on-rails-c3bb40791632 23:08 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:08 < admin1234> Is it arrogant Linux in that fashion? Or is it necessary evil to get the truth out there? 23:08 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has joined #openbsd 23:09 -!- martian67 [~martian67@user/meow/martian67] has joined #openbsd 23:09 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 23:09 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10 < pardis> this can't be the perfect OpenBSD server, it has rails installed 23:10 -!- Xenguy [~Xenguy@user/xenguy] has quit [Quit: "To play for a draw [...] is to some degree a crime against chess." -- Mikhail Tal] 23:11 < macarona> is this ruby on rails on openbsd again? 23:11 < macarona> i think i saw it before on @misc. and someone made a song too 23:13 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:14 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:15 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 23:19 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22 -!- admin1234 [~admin@user/admin1234] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:22 -!- zorz [~zorz@user/zorz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:23 -!- admin1234 [~admin@ti0004q160-2077.bb.online.no] has joined #openbsd 23:25 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has joined #openbsd 23:25 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 23:29 -!- accordve1om [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33 -!- mikewilzn [609e48c489@user/mikewilzn] has joined #openbsd 23:33 -!- ficonni [~ficonni@213.196.101.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34 -!- hwpplayer1 [~user@user/hwpplayer1] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 23:34 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 23:37 -!- pokeysquirrel [~pokeysqui@user/pokeysquirrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:42 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46 -!- ecbrown [~user@user/ecbrown] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has joined #openbsd 23:49 -!- user03 [~gchound@user/gchound] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1] 23:52 -!- mbuhl [~mbuhl@user/mbuhl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2] 23:54 -!- mbuhl [~mbuhl@user/mbuhl] has joined #openbsd 23:54 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 23:57 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has joined #openbsd 23:58 -!- luscusrex [~luscusrex@user/luscusrex] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:59 -!- accordvenom [~markie@99-106-182-62.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Tue Dec 31 00:00:10 2024