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06:23 < foul_owl> How do I manually remove dhcp leases for servers that no longer exist? Can I manually edit /var/db/dhcpd.leases ?
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06:34 < ecbrown> i wonder if you can just delete it and machines can renew (but i'm just an idiot, don't take my advice)
06:35 < mischief> foul_owl: you can
06:35 < mischief> probably restart dhcpd after
06:38 < IcePic> is the network range so small that it actually does matter?
06:38 < IcePic> I was thinking that if forgottenServerX is gone for longer than the lease time, then some other box can get its ip if needed even if dhcpd retains history about the old removed server 3-5-7 days after it expired
06:42 < foul_owl> mischief: Thank you!
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06:42 < foul_owl> Yes, it matters in this case
06:43 < saulosilva> Hello good people
06:43 < saulosilva> love this
06:43 < foul_owl> From the lease expiration time, I can wait until tomorrow, but I would prefer not to, plus, I would like to know if I can edit that leases file :)
06:44 < IcePic> foul_owl: Sure, its fun to poke around, and if you keep backups, dhcpd is probably one of the best daemons to stop, test, fail, restore, restart since it is often not time critical at all if your leases are in hours
06:45 < IcePic> good place to learn
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06:53 < saulosilva> comparing apples, or radder kernels
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06:53 < saulosilva> what make bsd great
06:54 < IcePic> saulosilva: was that a statement or a question?
06:54 < saulosilva> wondering of a mind lost in the src
06:55 < saulosilva> im researching os functionality and approach to structure
06:58 < saulosilva> as always, coming from a linux background i see the gap in support and uptake of new trens
06:58 < saulosilva> trends
07:00 < saulosilva> i find sad to see how the unix wars resolved to the state of the art we find here
07:00 < saulosilva> good ideas being subdue by market share
07:01 < saulosilva> first thing i said here is my appreciation of this project
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07:02 < IcePic> btw, if anyone likes old clever solutions, https://blog.codingconfessions.com/p/how-unix-spell-ran-in-64kb-ram
07:02 < saulosilva> but its unplugged from main stream devel
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07:03 < IcePic> being in mainstream development for an OS sounds a lot like "let the chinese vendor make a driver binary instead of posting developer docs for their hw"
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07:03 < IcePic> and that might arguably be lots worse than what BSDs have now
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07:05 < saulosilva> wondering if the approach to maintain legacy ways are due to lack of clear eyes and free hands or its a closed mindset to keep up the good and old days
07:06 < saulosilva> like a hillbilly if i may
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07:06 < saulosilva> no offence
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09:41 < rahl> I'm having to look at building a machine for machine learning - loosely defined at present - so am opting for decent cpu, gpu, with room to expand to multiple gpus
09:41 < rahl> I'd like to develop on openbsd, but from what I'm reading the situation with nvidia is still unfavourable
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09:45 < renaud> there is no CUDA for any BSD afaik
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09:57 < IcePic> rahl: yes, nvidia hasn't stopped being against open source
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09:59 < rahl> bugger. that stymies that pathway
10:00 < rahl> but they are starting to release open source kernel modules
10:01 < rahl> or is it more hot air than reality?
10:01 < RobbieAB> AIUI if you want CUDA, you need to use the proprietry drivers.
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10:07 < rahl> k, reading from nvidia, the kernle module is open source but cuda is user-mode and remains proprietary :/
10:07 < rahl> s/kernle/kernel
10:09 < rahl> Any idea if there is a workable equivalent with amd gpus?
10:11 < rahl> Not looking likely
10:13 < IcePic> for obsd+nvidia, they have spent so long not helping open source out that everyone is buying amd or intel gfx, so the amount of decent devs on obsd sitting with an nvidia that could possibly be supported would be zero
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10:21 < rahl> makes sense
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10:25 < rahl> could be interesting to look into amd's rocm and matrix cores, but I guess it's fairly young compared to nvidia's equivalents
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12:31 < oldlaptop> (nouveau has been capable in principle of supporting video output and basic acceleration on a bunch of hardware for years too, for that matter - but nobody seems particularly interested in shoveling out that stable)
12:32 < oldlaptop> perhaps if there were a larger population of crapbooks with nvidia as the only video output - it seems a lot more common in the last ten or fifteen years for them to require weird brittle hoops be jumped through to get the nvidia to do anything at all
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19:50 < user24031> hey, dhcpleased gives me: error: wrong DHO_DHCP_CLIENT_IDENTIFIER. what's up with this error i wonder? i can't get a lease, which is funny because i previously got a lease from the same router when the machine was behind a switch. here's some context. the hostname.if file is one line; inet autconf; pf.conf is from /etc/example
19:50 < user24031> and there is no dhcpleased.conf
19:50 < user24031> tyty \o/
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19:58 < armin> I got a total of 2 OpenBSD stickers at 38c3, was hoping for more, but hey, that's something. \o/
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20:02 < sibiria> user24031: i don't think you need dhcpleased.conf
20:02 < user24031> ya that's looks like a fascinating event 
20:02 < sibiria> it reacts to AUTOCONF flag on the interfaces
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