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14:38 < TheyCallMePaul> I have a hosted VPS configured to respond to requests from vio1 on the private network, where I have another VPS sending requests from the public network using relayd. Works great.
14:39 < TheyCallMePaul> I want to change the configuration of the VPS so that all outbound requests are sent on the private network (vio1 instead of vio0) to support external public servers seeing inbound and outbound requests using the same IP address.
14:39 < TheyCallMePaul> Unfortunately, this has lead me to discover I do not understand how network requests start within OpenBSD, because I don't even know where to look to configure supporting this.
14:39 < TheyCallMePaul> Any tips on where to start would be much appreciated.
14:43 < ecbrown> hello, i have a 4:3 monitor that hooks into dvi of my AMD RX580.  when i installed 7.6 stable xenocara login appears, but when i upgrade to snapshot i get a "obviously powered but blank" screen on the same monitor.  it worked as console in early phase.   does anyone know how to fix?
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14:45 < ecbrown> (it feels like "nomodeset" issues from the linux days)
14:46 < ecbrown> also, i can plug in 1080p into hdmi and i get a display
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15:02 < IcePic> bah
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19:03 < shtrophic> Is openrsync also affected from the rsync 3.3.* vulnerability?
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19:06 < shtrophic> s/vulnerability/vulnerabilities/
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19:17 < Bradipo> Which vulnerability is that?
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19:20 < fro> https://marc.info/?l=oss-security&m=173687759925877&w=2
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19:24 < thrig> rsync is gpl. openbsd devs are maybe unlikely to copy gpl code directly. therefore...
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19:27 < shtrophic> Well, AFAIK the protocol version got a bump, so...
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19:30 < shtrophic> ... maybe there is something fundamentally wrong with the protocol
19:30 < shtrophic> Whatever. Thanks to the devs, we have other implementations :)
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19:36 < Bradipo> Keep in mind that whether or not you are actually at risk using rsync is something you should consider.
19:37 < ssm_> Bradipo: what are your grievances with rsync?
19:37 < Bradipo> None.
19:37 < uwharrie> quick glance and it looks like openrsync doesn't trust what's reported in the protocol
19:38 < ssm_> Bradipo: oh I guess I misunderstood, my bad
19:38 < Bradipo> I'm just saying that while there may be 6 vulnerabilities found in rsync, it's up to the individual using rsync to determine if they pose a threat to his use of it.
19:39 < Bradipo> uwharrie: Is that another way of saying that it validates the inputs in the protocol?
19:39 < uwharrie> Bradipo: that's what I believe is happening in these spots: https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/usr.bin/rsync/blocks.c#L417 & https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/usr.bin/rsync/blocks.c#L482
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19:42 < Bradipo> Interesting that it uses assert() for that.
19:42 < uwharrie> by no means exhastive, but it looks similar to what samba-rsync did in the patch here: https://download.samba.org/pub/rsync/src-diffs/rsync-3.3.0-3.4.0.diffs.gz
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20:02 < mischief> hooray, new ram arrived
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20:25 < yang3> Emacs @ loongson/mips64el compiled, after ~3 weeks :)
20:25 < anelli> omg yang3 congrats 
20:26 < oldlaptop> All computer storage munched yet?
20:26 < anelli> lemote yeelong right?
20:26 < yang3> anelli yes
20:26 < yang3> thanks
20:26 < anelli> based
20:26 < yang3> next things I am gonna try are: gcc, rxvt, lxqt
20:27 < anelli> this will take months.....
20:27 < anelli> yang3: compile firefox :3
20:28 < oldlaptop> lxqt is going to be a pretty nasty dependency tree
20:28 < oldlaptop> especially if qt ports are such that qtwebengine (chromium, basically) is hooked in
20:28 < yang3> anelli I am planing to use/try lxqt on lemote, but I won't use firefox, that would take toooooo long to compile:)
20:29 < oldlaptop> firefox is nothing compared to chromium/qtwebengine :(
20:29 < yang3> ah
20:29 < yang3> ok
20:30  * user71 I wonder why there is no cross-compiler possible
20:30 < yang3> is there a lightweight window manager?
20:30 < yang3> but not a very "basic/primitive" one?
20:30 < Bradipo> cwm and fvwm are in base, no need to compile.
20:30 < oldlaptop> I'm sure you *could* have working lxqt and qt without it, but I'm not sure offhand whether openbsd ports will give you that without some changes
20:30 < Bradipo> fvwm is far from "primitive" but it does require some understanding of the man page to customize it the way you want.
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20:31 < Bradipo> Then of course there's twm in base as well, but it's definitely more "primitive".
20:32 < oldlaptop> The window manager itself that you'd usually use with lxqt isn't so bad (openbox, doesn't use qt itself)
20:33 < oldlaptop> https://openports.pl/path/x11/tint2 goes well with it
20:34 < IcePic> user71: mostly because platforms that never build their own code usually rots very quickly
20:34 < oldlaptop> It's not that cross-compilers aren't /possible/, it's that openbsd doesn't rely on them for doing production builds as a matter of policy
20:35 < user71> right, thx
20:35 < oldlaptop> if it can't build itself it's not good enough to release
20:36 < anelli> yang3: fairr. modern browsers are bloated anyways :b use dillo
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20:36 < yang3> anelli yea
20:36 < yang3> Bradipo so the default I guess is "twm" ?
20:36 < anelli> it's fvwm but i don'tlike it
20:37 < oldlaptop> Maybe it'd have a place for individual users like yang3 who need to (far more common is "want to") build ports themselves for weak machines, but openbsd treats ports as infrastructure for doing production builds, not a user-facing feature, and it treats cross-compilers as development tools, not production build tools
20:37 < Bradipo> The default is fvwm.  That's my preferred WM at the moment.
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20:37 < yang3> a layer of dust has piled on top of the lemote, I left the screen open for 3 weeks
20:37 < anelli> yang3: you'll be best served to do most stuff from base to avoid the compiling. you don't seem a vi sinner tho. what do you think of mg?
20:37 < oldlaptop> *sneeze*
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20:38 < yang3> anelliI do not know about "mg"
20:38 < IcePic> mg is nice
20:38 < oldlaptop> yang3: it has a manual page :)
20:38 < anelli> yang3: it's minimal emacs :b
20:38 < yang3> I do use also vi
20:38 < yang3> Emacs was more of an attempt to see how fast it would compile
20:39 < anelli> fairs
20:39 < yang3> oh "mg" is nice
20:39 < yang3> looks like Emacs
20:40 < yang3> i just ran it
20:40 < IcePic> tedu@ once made some scheme for it, but that patch wasn't committed
20:40 < IcePic> if someone needed to expand mg functionality by adding lots of ()s
20:40 < yang3> hello IcePic
20:40  * oldlaptop should hack up a mgtcl one of these years, for fun
20:41 < oldlaptop> so you can extend functionality by adding []s instead
20:42 < IcePic> this editor extension took a "sharp turn" with them hard paranthesises
20:42 < yang3> there is also /usr/ports/editors/uemacs which compiled quite fast in less than an hour
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20:46 < thrig> my wacky fork of vi compiles in about 9 seconds
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20:52 < tvtoon> hum, 3 weeks for emacs, that should be the newer one
20:53 < yang3> well it wasn't powered 24/7
20:53 < yang3> maybe about 5 hours a day
20:53 < tvtoon> better start with gcc, if you can't compile the compiler so you know :)
20:53 < yang3> yea
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21:08 < thrig> and somehow mostly does not segfault despite all the wacky changes
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22:12 < adig> Hi
22:12 < adig> My OpenBSD machine stopped connecting to my phone via wifi all of sudden.
22:12 < adig> When I do ifconfig iwm0 debug... etc...
22:13 < adig> My phone's networks appears with a "rsn!" in fron of it.
22:13 < adig> The other network to Which I can connect, shows "rns" only, without the exclamation mark.
22:13 < adig> s/rns/rsn/
22:15 < adig> When I do "join"
22:16 < adig> It says, "swithcing to network <networkname>"
22:16 < adig> But doesn't actually connect.
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