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00:01 < sibiria> i've actually not once ever had the kernel panic on me so i might be misremembering how that part works, but isn't the entire crash dump saved to disk for retrieval and processing outside ddb?
00:01 < sibiria> if you disable ddb.panic or so, maybe
00:02 < tss> Re hardware failures like RAM and power: at this point nothing is off the table, but it's hard not to suspect software ... this is the kind of utility PC that you'd find deployed by some company that needs hundreds of desks to have a computer on them. Built down to a price but also made with some mind not to waste too much IT staff time.
00:02 < tss> I think it might be; I just assumed if it were, we wouldn't have so many nice instructions at ddb.html :-)
00:02 < tss> Maybe they just don't want to collect more info than they need.
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00:03 < tss> (What I find in /var/crash right now is a five-byte file called "minfree" that contains the string "4096".)
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00:04 < tss> Confusingly, I already have ddb.panic=0 in my sysctl.conf.
00:04 < tss> $ doas sysctl ddb.panic
00:04 < tss> doas (tss@host) password:
00:04 < tss> ddb.panic=0
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00:33 < tss> memtest has tested the mems. Pass...
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10:09 < CosmicDJ> hm what is this? "smtpd[51263]: 04c30119125060ef smtp disconnected reason="io-error: write failed: error:02FFF020:system library:func(4095):Broken pipe" ?
10:14 < quinq> Maybe out of files
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10:25 < CosmicDJ> it's always the same sender... weird
10:26 < sibiria> CosmicDJ: does it happen to be office365 aka outlook aka live aka hotmail?
10:26 < sibiria> they have a poor tendency to not sign off in SMTP sessions, but rather just drop the connection
10:26 < sibiria> saves a few bytes; saves a few dollars a year
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10:27 < CosmicDJ> sibiria: yes it's always from *OUTLOOK.COM
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10:27 < TommyC> CosmicDJ: Possible attempt to exploit a security vulnerability, perhaps?
10:28 < sibiria> just microsoft things, more likely :p
10:28 < CosmicDJ> I think so, too... thank you :)
10:29 < sibiria> i observe similar behavior on my server (though slightly different error), always from microsoft's mail services
10:30 < sibiria> typically an MTA *should* say QUIT. they don't, they cut the connection right after done with DATA or whatever
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10:49 < renaud> outlook.com has never quit ant smtp transaction correctly, whether it's sending or receiving
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12:00 < Moon_Rabbit> All these articles about evil hackers always have the same picture of the guy wearing a black hoodie. I only wear a hoodie because it's comfy and warm. I wonder if I could sue the media for discrimination.
12:01 < renaud> try out and keep us informed :)
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12:06 < Moon_Rabbit> I was reading about some new AI vaporware today that supposedly made storing and retrieving data stored in human DNA 100x times faster
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12:09 < Moon_Rabbit> trying to track down the original paper is frustrating it's all circular references to the same few crappy articles and social media posts
12:10 < Moon_Rabbit> >Israel Institute of Technology  Ah I understand why there is no real source now
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15:09 < anexit> does docker work on openbsd?
15:11 < pardis> I imagine something tied to several Linux-specific features would have a tough time working on any other system
15:12 < mischief> anexit: no.
15:12 < anexit> Well.. I'm looking for something to host family photos.. I love https://www.files.gallery/?balloons but it's ... not a single php file.
15:13 < anexit> photoview was sort of the same but.. seems like a linux app
15:13 < mischief> > Files is a single-file PHP app
15:14 < anexit> CDN
15:14 < anexit> From what I can see in the code.
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15:17 < sibiria> store the dependencies locally
15:18 < anexit> yeah I see that now
15:18 < anexit> nice
15:18 < anexit> https://www.files.gallery/docs/self-hosted-assets/
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15:18 < anexit> I'll email them.. I don't mind spending $40
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15:20 < anexit> Thanks all
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15:25 < Moon_Rabbit> does anyone know where the picom port places its sample config file? It isn't in the usual places
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15:26 < IcePic> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/x11/picom/pkg/PLIST?rev=1.4&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
15:26 < Moon_Rabbit> ah /share of course sorry
15:27 < IcePic> that is where stuff ends up. dunno where it wants picom.conf wants to be when not example
15:27 < Moon_Rabbit> On every other platform I've used it places it in /etc/xdg 
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15:27 < Moon_Rabbit> thanks
15:30 < Moon_Rabbit> It was in /usr/local/share/examples/picom thanks I'll try to look through the man pages more in the future I didn't know example configs ended up there 
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15:33 < Moon_Rabbit> oh if you care to know it's one of those things that wants everything in ~/.config/ or ~/.config/picom
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17:37 < Moon_Rabbit> oldlaptop: This thinkpad t14 keyboard really isn't that bad. It's no model 2 by any means but I've been typing on it for the last 8 hours or so and it's decent enough.
17:38 < Moon_Rabbit> If you want to snag a more recent laptop with an 8-core processor and decent GPU consider the t/p14 gen 1s. I hear the later generations have a lot of problems (and no real ethernet port)
17:38 < Moon_Rabbit> Maybe in 2 more days I'll finally have my dotfiles recreated
17:38 < Moon_Rabbit> tomorrow is emacs restoration day I guess
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17:41 < Moon_Rabbit> I was surprised by the touchscreen it came with seems to work without any configuration what so ever. Not that I use it.
17:42 < Bradipo> Moon_Rabbit: Am I to take it that you didn't have backups?
17:43 < Bradipo> Else why would you need to recreate things?
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17:46 < Moon_Rabbit> I explained before someone tossed every computer I owned into the dump while I was away from home
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17:55 < anexit> $40 well worth it
17:55 < anexit> :D
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17:56 < anexit> I will say it is a very slick setup
17:56 < anexit> going to need more storage on my openbsd.amsterdam vm now 
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19:42 < fart_cat> https://man.openbsd.org/bsd.port.mk#COMPILER how do I set this to gcc11 for a package build?
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19:44 < fart_cat> oh i guess i do not
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19:54 < fart_cat> it says that libgccjit will be the gcc. Then when I run the pkg build with the make flag added to enable using it, the compiler will link it to the pkg being build?
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20:01 < dvl> WWhen I'm getting down to two rules, one for the vpn, and one for the vlan, to let ssh flow, is there a more concise way to do this? pass in  quick on tun2       inet  proto tcp from <rsyncers> to <rsync_sources>     port = ssh ; pass out quick on vlan7      inet  proto tcp from <rsyncers> to <rsync_sources>     port = ssh
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22:16 < fart_cat> I installed gcc-libs 8.4 with jit added as a language. But, when I try to make emacs, emacs says libgccjit doesn't exist
22:18 < uwharrie> did you add gcc-libs/libgccjit as a dependency for the package?
22:21 < fart_cat> yeah: it is appended to WANTLIB
22:21 < fart_cat> I have to go brb
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22:43 < radhitya> anexit: no, docker does not support openbsd. the way to use docker on openbsd is via vmm.
22:43 < radhitya> openbsd -> alpine linux (vmm) -> docker
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22:45 < quinq> openbsd -> alpine linux (vmm) -> docker -> alpine linux
22:46 < quinq> Yo dawg, I heard you like linux, so I put a linux in your OpenBSD so you can run Linux inside a Linux
22:47 < radhitya> xD
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22:49 < WhyNotHugo> openbsd -> alpine linux (vmm) -> docker -> alpine linux -> qemu -> openbsd
22:49 < WhyNotHugo> sorry
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22:54 < anelli> we gotta undockerize the planet. docker->chroot+make converter
22:54 < anelli> i'll call it rekcod
22:54 < anelli> or reckod
22:56 < dudz> get rid of docker?
22:57 < anelli> yes. we have to kill the whale. moby dicker
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23:02 < Moon_Rabbit> We must continue to put containers within containers. One day soon we'll finally secure them
23:02 < Moon_Rabbit> That's the way of things: bloat init then put it in jail
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23:44 < fart_cat> I have /usr/ports/pobj/gcc-8.4.0/build-amd64/gcc/libgccjit.so
23:44 < fart_cat> but how to install it?
23:44 < Bradipo> Did it not get build with the package?
23:45 < fart_cat> I am trying to get emacs to use it, but emacs says it cant find it
23:45 < fart_cat> > configure: error: ELisp native compiler was requested, but libgccjit header files were not found
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23:46 < Bradipo> Well, when you install the gcc package, is it not installed?
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23:46 < Bradipo> That says the header files were not found, not the shared object .so.
23:47 < fart_cat> gcc is installed and gcc-libs is installed
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23:48 < Bradipo> Is there a libgccjit.h?
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23:48 < fart_cat> i did not find one in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib, but there is one in the ports build directory
23:49 < Bradipo> So maybe these just aren't included in the package listing for some reason.
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23:51 < Bradipo> I don't see any libgccjit in any of the PLIST files in gcc/8/pkg
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23:52 < fart_cat> ./gcc-8.4.0/gcc/jit/libgccjit.h is the location in the pobj
23:52 < Bradipo> I presume you built this yourself?
23:53 < Bradipo> Did you type: make fake
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23:53 < fart_cat> i did make install to get -main and I built -libs too
23:54 < Bradipo> There should be a fake directory where it was installed before it was installed.
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23:54 < fart_cat>  /usr/ports/pobj/gcc-8.4.0/fake-amd64?
23:55 < Bradipo> Yeah, that's it.
23:55 < Bradipo> Do you see the header or .so in that directory?
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23:56 < fart_cat> both are there
23:56 < fart_cat> hmnm
23:56 < Bradipo> Interesting.
23:56 < Bradipo> What's the path to them in the fake-amd64 directory?
23:56 < Bradipo> usr/local/...
23:57 < fart_cat> ./usr/local/lib/libgccjit.so.0
23:57 < fart_cat> ./usr/local/include/libgccjit.h
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23:59 < Bradipo> Well, one quick hack would be to add them to PLIST-libs
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