--- Log opened Sun Mar 09 00:00:46 2025 00:01 < sibiria> mischief: i think the fact that it's doable wirelessly is the "burger" 00:01 < sibiria> open access 00:02 < metala> yeah, s.b. should do a wardriver and start reflashing all home iot devices in the neighbourhood 00:04 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 00:07 -!- adip [~adip@c145-14.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:08 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 00:10 -!- wickedshell [~wickedshe@2601:8c0:800:4baa:fa9b:5d9e:bbb8:9b8c] has joined #openbsd 00:13 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:21 -!- todi [~todi@p57803331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 00:23 -!- todi [~todi@p57803331.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openbsd 00:31 -!- jadi [~jadi@d207-81-160-78.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:32 -!- rconjoe [~rconjoe@user/rconjoe] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34 -!- rconjoe [~rconjoe@user/rconjoe] has joined #openbsd 00:36 -!- vdamewood [~vdamewood@fedora/vdamewood] has joined #openbsd 00:38 -!- jgh [~jgh@hellmouth.gulag.org.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41 -!- naoki [~Thunderbi@240f:10b:7440:1:893e:bed3:fdaf:c5b] has joined #openbsd 00:54 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 00:58 -!- megawatt [~megawatt@user/megawatt] has left #openbsd [] 00:58 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:59 < mischief> sibiria: no, remote access wasn't indicated anywhere. 01:01 < metala> mischief: what do you mean? 01:04 < metala> https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25554812/2025-rootedcon-bluetoothtools.pdf -> Slide 21 (Page 19) 01:04 -!- sandbag [~sandbag@user/sandbag] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:05 < mischief> yes, they are host-controller interface commands 01:05 < mischief> what's remote about that 01:07 < metala> you might be right. I don't understand spanish, but I assumed that the firmware was routing some of the commands to the HCI. 01:10 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 01:18 -!- Sario [sario@libera/staff/owl/sario] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.5] 01:21 < metala> Ok, so basicaly they've turned ESP32 to a USB bluetooth device for Windows and were issuing raw HCI commands to the BT controller. 01:33 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has joined #openbsd 01:39 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:40 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 01:44 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:57 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 02:01 -!- gzar [~gzar@2a01:c844:241a:1d00:7656:3cff:fe2f:af7f] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.5.2] 02:06 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 02:14 -!- ZHuangZi [ZHuangZi@user/ZhuangZi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:15 -!- dogg0 [~dogg0@user/dogg0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 02:30 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:34 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:38 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:39 -!- bilegeek [~bilegeek@2600:1008:b06c:dc66:6585:b1c9:9e49:17ad] has joined #openbsd 02:43 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.152] has joined #openbsd 02:55 -!- ZHuangZi [ZHuangZi@user/ZhuangZi] has joined #openbsd 03:11 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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couldn't find resources for openbsd about it and everyone seems to recommend gnupg instead. my usecase is throwing passwords into files and encrypting them with a passphrase like a password manager 20:30 < anelli> would. do yall think openssl is worth it for this usecase or do i just go with age? thx 20:31 -!- Aedil [~adrian@ip923469d0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:31 -!- adig [~default@109.166.138.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:32 < sibiria> i use openssl 20:32 < sibiria> has the benefit of allowing you to decrypt the files pretty much anywhere if needed 20:33 -!- R4F4 [~rscastilh@user/R4F4] has quit [] 20:33 < pardis> I always openssl to encrypt files unless I have specific requirements that dictate otherwise 20:33 < pardis> s/openssl/use \0/ 20:34 < oldlaptop> There seems to be no shortage of quick little scripts using openssl(1) to encrypt things, including from openbsdish people 20:35 < dostoyevsky2> oldlaptop: Are you learning Go now? 20:35 < sibiria> or just invoke it right off the bat. the parameters are obvious enough for the most part. e.g.: openssl enc -e -aes-256-ctr -pbkdf2 -iter 123 -in blah -out blah.aes256 20:35 < anelli> sibiria: yea i was thinking of this too. no need to install anything to decrypt passwards. i was thinking i'd use gcm but it don't seem to be present when i tried the command. do u have a specific cipher and options u use? 20:36 < sibiria> anelli: read just above 20:36 < anelli> sibiria: lol just saw it 20:36 < anelli> alrighty 20:36 < sibiria> and no, no gcm available. if you go with aes, ctr and ofb are your two sane choices 20:37 < anelli> oh alr. i'll read more about them and the other options. thx a lot 20:38 < sibiria> chach20 is another more modern option 20:38 < sibiria> chacha20* 20:38 < anelli> hehe nice name 20:38 < anelli> noted 20:39 < sibiria> chacha20 is also a stream cipher, so it's inherently well-suited for files 20:41 -!- R4F4 [~rscastilh@user/R4F4] has joined #openbsd 20:42 < anelli> oh strem cipher. nice 20:43 < anelli> gotta read into that too. i'm a crypto noob 20:44 < sibiria> practically i suppose it does not matter. openssl will make it Just Work(tm) 20:44 < jmcunx> anelli: I use port ccrypt + emacs for my PW manager. It comes with an .el for emacs 20:45 < jmcunx> also it can be used via vim too 20:45 < sibiria> for passwords specifically i think a keyring application is better, like keepassxc 20:45 < sibiria> a bit more userfriendly 20:50 -!- adig_ [~default@109.166.138.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50 -!- adig [~default@109.166.138.227] has joined #openbsd 20:50 < anelli> jmcunx: oh nice i'll check it out 20:51 < anelli> keyrings are gud. i just realized that my password storage is too simple for that 20:52 < anelli> i should try out emacs sometime. i always go through the tutorial then get bored xD 20:52 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 20:52 < sibiria> keepassxc is pretty bloated and complex, but it does come with a CLI version which is a bit simpler and smaller 20:53 < anelli> fairs 20:54 < quinq> It's named keep-ass though 20:54 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:54 < sibiria> best hold onto your ass. it's good advice 20:54 < anelli> lol 20:56 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:58 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 20:59 -!- virys [~virys@user/lovisabet] has joined #openbsd 21:00 -!- R4F4 [~rscastilh@user/R4F4] has quit [] 21:01 -!- gatlinggoat [~Thunderbi@128.6.147.126] has joined #openbsd 21:03 < anelli> base has everything. time to add links2 and an irc client (not sure which) xD 21:04 < sibiria> irssi 21:04 < anelli> was thinking about it but gpl2 sadly 21:04 < anelli> catgirl? it's kinda jank tho 21:05 < anelli> wait what's catgilr license again 21:05 < anelli> gpl 21:05 < anelli> we just write a ksh irc lol 21:06 < pardis> base already has an IRC client, nc(1) 21:06 < anelli> hehe fair 21:06 < anelli> telnet too :b 21:06 < anelli> links2 is gpl too.... 21:08 < oldlaptop> lynx was in base perhaps ten years ago. It was kicked out after someone whined on misc@ that finger support was disabled. 21:08 < pardis> the number of use cases which require a web browser in base is fairly small (though admittedly non-zero) 21:09 < anelli> oldlaptop: yeah. sorry i was present in this convo before but failed to mention it again so i made you repeat yourself xD 21:09 < anelli> pardis: we have x11 in base tho 21:09 < anelli> wait 21:09 < oldlaptop> I would have thought the number of use cases for a browser in base that supports finger *was* zero 21:09 < oldlaptop> but apparently not 21:09 < anelli> in the x11 fileset. idk i'm bat at being pedantic 21:09 < oldlaptop> (maybe it is by now) 21:10 < pardis> a couple of years ago, I had to reinstall macOS while staying in a hotel that requires webshit auth for their wifi 21:10 < pardis> macOS's installer has Safari available, but I couldn't have done that easily with OpenBSD 21:11 < anelli> yea. js browsers are crazy tho 21:11 < oldlaptop> I suppose you could accomplish a similar thing easily with OpenBSD: download the sets beforehand like sysupgrade does 21:11 < anelli> around 200mb for the binary for the big three (chromium/firefox/webkit) 21:11 < pardis> yes, assuming your reason for reinstalling is not that you lack a functioning system to start with 21:11 < oldlaptop> Yeah. 21:12 < anelli> oldlaptop: i think i used finger with finger(1) before so it don't need a browser? 21:12 < anelli> idk much about finger sorry 21:13 < oldlaptop> That's what I would have thought. (If finger(1) itself still has any users.) 21:15 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:16 -!- mlw [~mlw@41.73.193.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:24 -!- nsuperbus [~nsuperbus@host-79-121-39-31.kabelnet.hu] has quit [Quit: goodbye] 21:26 -!- nsuperbus [~nsuperbus@host-79-121-39-31.kabelnet.hu] has joined #openbsd 21:30 -!- zungi [~tory@user/andrewchawk] has joined #openbsd 21:31 -!- Figworm [~inoor@user/figworm] has joined #openbsd 21:34 -!- Figworm [~inoor@user/figworm] has quit [Client Quit] 21:34 -!- Figworm [FiggyWitIt@user/figworm] has joined #openbsd 21:37 -!- Figworm [FiggyWitIt@user/figworm] has quit [Client Quit] 21:38 -!- virys [~virys@user/lovisabet] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:39 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 21:43 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:47 -!- kroovy [~libera@62.27.217.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:49 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@156.59.208.16] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:52 -!- fallback [fallback@shelltalk.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:53 -!- kroovy [~libera@62.27.217.183] has joined #openbsd 22:01 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 22:02 < thrig> finger jmates@thrig.me 22:09 -!- fallback [fallback@2605:6400:20:b4:d215:d916:1183:4c75] has joined #openbsd 22:12 < jmcunx> then there is this - finger ^YOUR-CITY@graph.no 22:12 < jmcunx> weather conditions 22:13 -!- CrashOverride [~strcat@p57b4bf21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:13 -!- gatlinggoat [~Thunderbi@128.6.147.126] has quit [Quit: gatlinggoat] 22:18 -!- Slesa [~Slesa@2a0d:ee00:8010:5b00:ec30:3849:642:62ff] has joined #openbsd 22:18 -!- noone [~six@user/six] has joined #openbsd 22:24 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 22:29 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:34 < anelli> oldlaptop: alr i read up abt finger. now i'm wondering why didn't the list just tell that user to shutup and use finger like a normal person xD 22:35 < anelli> thrig: naise. is this a binary that echo 'stuff'? 22:36 < anelli> shell* 22:36 < thrig> the default openbsd finger daemon does not close connections that remain open, so I wrote a custom one 22:38 < anelli> oh based 22:38 -!- adig [~default@109.166.138.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:38 < anelli> jmcunx: beautiful 22:39 -!- adig [~adig@109.166.138.227] has joined #openbsd 22:45 -!- vinleod is now known as vdamewood 22:49 -!- absc [~absc@2a04:ee41:8:6055:6646:59b1:78b5:e5ff] has quit [Quit: Got to go. irctk 1.1.0-beta] 22:50 -!- Slesa [~Slesa@2a0d:ee00:8010:5b00:ec30:3849:642:62ff] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05 < Moon_Rabbit> Neat I asked about porting pledge to FreeBSD about a week ago. I just found out that HardenedBSD has been working on it for awhile. 23:09 -!- tarxvfz [~tarxvfz@gateway/tor-sasl/tarxvfz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 23:14 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:15 -!- VoidKrypt [VoidKrypt@user/VoidKrypt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24 -!- Old-Ben-Jabroni [~oldben@user/Old-Ben-Jabroni] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:24 -!- amhais [~amhais@c-76-118-134-122.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 23:26 -!- Old-Ben-Jabroni [~oldben@user/Old-Ben-Jabroni] has joined #openbsd 23:26 -!- zwr [~zwr@200-97-241-139.user3p.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26 -!- adig [~adig@109.166.138.227] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:28 -!- trillion_exabyte [~X@80.239.178.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:29 -!- trillion_exabyte [~X@80.239.178.98] has joined #openbsd 23:32 -!- naoki [~Thunderbi@240f:10b:7440:1:6f28:fcf6:707e:f6a7] has joined #openbsd 23:34 < anelli> i did `{ sleep 5; exit; } &' and `read line' then printed stuff lol. killing the sleeping job at the end don't work but this does the job 23:36 -!- psydroid [~psydroid@user/psydroid] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.2.6 Quasar http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:51 -!- down200 [~down200@shell.lug.mtu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:55 -!- down200 [~down200@shell.lug.mtu.edu] has joined #openbsd 23:55 -!- alfiee [~alfiee@user/alfiee] has joined #openbsd 23:58 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58 -!- _wnh_ [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has joined #openbsd --- Log closed Mon Mar 10 00:00:21 2025