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00:12 < bountyht> vortexx: I thought surf was also on ports?
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00:12 < bountyht> But yeah surf is hard to take as a serious browser. I still like it
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01:08 < seninha> vortexx, webkit is Apple/safari's browser engine.
01:09 < seninha> chrom{e,ium}'s is blink iirc
01:09 < oldlaptop> It was webkit, many years ago, and is still a webkit descendant (more or less)
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01:23 < ssm_> I've read about khtml/qtwebkit forks, which is interesting because maybe they could be made to work with browsers like falkon and qutebrowser
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01:26 < ssm_> falkon in particular because falkon has a built-in ublock-like script blocker which is more than I can say for any other {gtk,qt}web* browser
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07:56 < horsegoosemeth> Lol I am not all too tempted to replace my arch installation with this on my local primary pc, although I'D PREVIOUSLY OPERATED OPENBSD ON MY VPS AND SO IT'D MAKE PARADOXICAL INSENSIBILE RATIONAL TO NOW USE OPENBSD ON MY PC AND SINCE MY VPS OPERATES ARCH LOL.
07:56 < horsegoosemeth> which I know is more scary than arachnids, ...
07:56 < horsegoosemeth> I like to live dangerously...
07:56 < horsegoosemeth> :'(
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09:20 < cs_0x6373> just a fyi followup on my question yesterday: OpenBSD is currently installing on a Dell PowerEdge R660 with the H775 controller to a virtual RAID-1 disk device
09:21 < cs_0x6373> only issue i had was that the installer was not usable with the idrac virtual keyboard, keypresses were not (immediately) recognized but came in a big swoop after some random time.
09:21 < cs_0x6373> Installing via virtual serial port now
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13:33 < ssm_> cs_0x6373: sending message via IRC now
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14:49 < thrig> https://thrig.me/tmp/updates.jpg
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14:59 < sibiria> thrig: it's been 10 minutes. any updates?
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15:16 < jmcunx> nice
15:27 < miah> the grass is brown, but will soon be green
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15:47 < miah> my chickens have been doing that since the snow melted
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16:46 < Moon_Rabbit> are any of you using ungoogled-chromium? If so, is it normal for youtube to be so bad on it? 
16:46 < Moon_Rabbit> I haven't used it in years. I added ublock+sponsorblock and now it auto-loads 240p videos and they buffer endlessly. No issue in firefox with same add-ons.
16:49 < Moon_Rabbit> Yeah it's just chromium. I just checked in firefox and in mpv with yt-dlp. No issue with either.
16:51 < Moon_Rabbit> Ah seems I'm not the only one: https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium/issues/3012#issuecomment-2683471328
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16:52 < Moon_Rabbit> The fix to prevent it from throttling you seems to be disbaling WebGL support. Which is not something I want to do. There is a patch to keep it on and have the browser report that it's off to get around their nonsense. I might build the port later with the patch and see if it works.
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16:59 < Bradipo> I rarely use chrome for anything.  I have the chromium package installed for very specific things that just don't work with FF, but otherwise, my primary browser is FF.
16:59 < Moon_Rabbit> Same. It's just annoying that it doesn't work because they're fingerprinting it. 
16:59 < Bradipo> Is the chromium package "ungoogled"?  Or is it a separate package?
17:00 < Moon_Rabbit> I'm using the ungoogled one
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17:00 < Bradipo> It's absolutely annoying that websites try to fingerprint, in general.
17:00 < Moon_Rabbit> It's a well known issue sorry. I thought it might have something to do with the port. But I looked around (which I should have done to start with) and there are many people dealing with the same thing and the fixes change week to week.
17:01 < Bradipo> Just offer the content-type to my browser and let it figure out what to do with it.
17:01 < Moon_Rabbit> Youtube in firefox with my usual script+ad blocking has worked fine for so many years now I guess I just got used to it.
17:01 < Moon_Rabbit> Yeah I agree. Browsers should just accept text/markup. I hate the modern web so much. We did a bunch of work in the late 90s/early 2000s on web standards just to see it all thrown away
17:07 < Moon_Rabbit> In my ideal world http was never violated and became the world's greatest library and we introduced a new protocol for interactive network applications that didn't have anything to do with javascript
17:08 < Moon_Rabbit> I apologize for being part of the problem. Some of the stuff I worked on was the first "web apps" to use AJAX. But it was just supposed to be a quick and dirty hack until the W3C defined a better standard. 
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