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02:20 < passstab> My sound stopped working with a recent snapshot update.
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02:23 < passstab> https://paste.debian.net/1363717/
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02:37 < passstab> Just launched firefox from the terminal, looks like that may be the problem.
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02:40 < passstab> https://hastebin.ianhon.com/22ef
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02:41 < oldlaptop> the answer to "turn on javascript pls" is "no, of course not"
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02:41 < quinq> Was about to say
02:42 < passstab> ?
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02:43 < passstab> Was hastebin a bad choice? the debian paste said I was spamming.
02:43 < oldlaptop> That's what your second paste link says.
02:43 < passstab> sorry
02:43 < oldlaptop> (Well there goes the idea of putting that one in the topic)
02:47 < passstab> https://clbin.com/HeLyB
02:48 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #openbsd to: Unofficial OpenBSD support channel; please try to stay on topic | https://www.openbsd.org | FAQ: https://www.openbsd.org/faq | Read These Fantastic Manual Pages (hopefully we can help find the right one): https://man.openbsd.org/ | Can't speak? https://libera.chat/guides/registration | 3+ line pastes? Use a paste site such as termbin.com or paste.debian.net | No politics, etc.
02:48  * oldlaptop welcomes suggestions for something less spam-sensitive(?) with a friendly web form
02:48 < anelli> oldlaptop: okturing.com is nice and used by 9front devs 
02:49 < anelli> i think they manually clean spam off it
02:49 < passstab> Sorry about that.
02:49 < anelli> clbin is dying i think? i got some msg about it shutting down soon
02:49 < oldlaptop> Yes, that's unfortunate.
02:49 < passstab> So did I just now.
02:50 < oldlaptop> termbin works with nc(1), which is a substantial benefit - on the other hand that means the paste is not TLSed. (Probably not an overriding concern given the application.)
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02:52 < oldlaptop> passstab: It seems odd that `cat > /dev/audio0` would work as an unprivileged user. 
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02:53 < oldlaptop> What does the equivalent aucat(1) invocation (something like `aucat -f /dev/random` - caution, noisy) do?
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02:59 < passstab> oldlaptop that specific command tells me I need a -i, or -o. Reading man to see how I should use them.
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03:04 < oldlaptop> passstab: I meant -i, not -f, sorry.
03:04 < oldlaptop> (Must be getting tired.)
03:05 < passstab> ah, cool
03:05 < passstab> default: couldn't open audio device
03:05 < oldlaptop> Okay. What does it say if you give it some `-d`s?
03:08 < passstab> the same, tried -d, and -dd, (assuming it might be similar to -v in other programs.)
03:08 < oldlaptop> Is sndiod running?
03:09 < oldlaptop> (And is there still some cat process holding the audio device node open?)
03:09 < passstab> sndioctl gives me levels, so I assume so?
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03:10 < passstab> oh, there was
03:11 < passstab> I got that aucat command to work.
03:12 < passstab> Is there something wrong with my permissions that I was able to test this as a normal user?
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03:15 < oldlaptop> The audio device nodes should be 0660 root:_sndiop or so, and _sndiop should be the only user in that group
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03:21 < passstab> someone should tell whoever runs openbsdhandbook.com, that site shows a normal user running those commands.
03:21 < oldlaptop> Whoever runs openbsdhandbook.com shouldn't.
03:23 < oldlaptop> It's a rather irritating mix of out-of-date copy/pasting from the real documentation (which is all under openbsd.org) and incorrect original material
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03:24 < passstab> I didn't want to be that harsh, but yes.
03:25 < passstab> I did all those commands from the official FAQ, and just ignored the privilege because it appeared not to matter.
03:26 < passstab> Now I'm looking up how to fix that.
03:27 < oldlaptop> If you didn't deliberately change the permissions, I wonder how they got changed.
03:28 < passstab> My assumption is that I did that at some point previously, the last time audio didn't work.
03:33 < passstab> "$ ls -l /dev/audio0" gives "crw-rw----  1 root  wheel  42, 0 Mar 17 23:12 /dev/audio0"
03:33 < passstab> as do other audio devices
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03:50 < passstab>  Are these commands appropriate? "doas chgrp _sndiop /dev/audio0"  " doas usermod -G _sndiop _sndiop"
03:52 < passstab> just tried that one, and sound is working in firefox.
03:52 < passstab> I'll do it for the rest of the audio devices.
03:53 < passstab> If that in fact was the problem as it appears, then the question of how it got this way is a strange one.
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03:55 < passstab> It started after I did a sysupgrade a few days ago. I was hoping that the intel graphics commits would improve my computer.
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04:00 < passstab> Very confusing, it is hard to imagine that the devs really made that happen, but I don't know how I would have done so.
04:00 < passstab> oldlaptop Thank you very much
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04:16 < oldlaptop> sorry - I somehow doubt the usermod did anything (unless something was badly messed up), but _sndiop isn't (normally, supposed to be) in wheel
04:17 < oldlaptop> so fixing the permissions on the device node (chgrp) will have allowed _sndiop to actually open the device
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09:08 < CosmicDJ> there are colors in nethack ;)
09:08 < CosmicDJ> ww
09:10 < IcePic> serial port cries in 300bps to send color codes for each char. ;)
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13:47 < halcon> GM do i have to change $ext_if for something else in this line please? pass in log on $ext_if proto esp from 198.51.100.1 to 192.0.2.1 tag IKED
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13:49 < sibiria> $these_things are variables (or "macros" as some call them)
13:49 < sibiria> you will need to define it, or replace it in that specific rule
13:49 < sibiria> the example is hinting at "your external network interface"
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14:19 < halcon> sibiria thanks, it works, but in this case pleas: match out log on vio0 inet tagged ROADW nat-to $ext_if
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14:20 < halcon> What is the second $ext_if ?
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14:26 < sibiria> that rule applies NAT on the packet and drops it on whatever $ext_if is defined to in your rule set
14:26 < sibiria> looks like a typical routing rule - forwards packet from internal network (vio0) to external network ("$ext_if")
14:27 < sibiria> in that specific case, packets with the ROADW tag, so presumably something that comes in over wireguard or ipsec or whatever
14:28 < pardis> that rule doesn't forward anything, but it does look like it's supposed to apply to packets that have already been forwarded to vio0
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14:29 < pardis> all nat-to does is rewrite the destination address and possibly port
14:29 < pardis> er, source address, rather
14:31 < pardis> pf rules are rarely meaningful in isolation
14:31 < pardis> you need to look at the whole pf.conf to see why that rule exists, where the tagged packets are coming from, and what $ext_if refers to
14:33 < sibiria> obviously the rule is part of routing traffic across two interfaces. there's gonna be a complementary rule elsewhere in that set to pass the traffic out
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14:34 < sibiria> they're just phrasing the rule differently than a typical "pass out on ext blah from int-net nat-to blah"
14:35 < pardis> just because forwarding is going on doesn't mean the pf rule is forwarding traffic
14:35 < pardis> I'm just being specific so that it's clear what the rule does and doesn't do
14:36 < sibiria> "roadwarrior" and "external if" are the hints
14:37 < pardis> obviously
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14:39 < sibiria> halcon: run "ifconfig" to see your activated interfaces part of the egress group. that's likely what you want as your "ext_if"
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14:58 < halcon> My pf.conf:
14:58 < halcon> # ifconfig
14:58 < halcon> lo0: flags=2008049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST,LRO> mtu 32768
14:58 < halcon> 	index 3 priority 0 llprio 3
14:58 < halcon> 	groups: lo
14:58 < halcon> 	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
14:58 < halcon> 	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
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14:58 < halcon> 	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
14:58 < halcon> vio0: flags=8b43<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,ALLMULTI,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
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14:59 < halcon> 	lladdr f6:4b:aa:66:9f:02
14:59 < halcon> 	index 1 priority 0 llprio 3
14:59 < halcon> 	groups: egress
14:59 < halcon> 	media: Ethernet autoselect
14:59 < halcon> 	status: active
14:59 < halcon> 	inet 104.167.242.198 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 104.167.242.255
14:59 < halcon> 	inet6 fe80::f44b:aaff:fe66:9f02%vio0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
14:59 < halcon> 	inet6 2602:fccf:1:2198:: prefixlen 48
14:59 < halcon> enc0: flags=0<>
14:59 < halcon> 	index 2 priority 0 llprio 3
14:59 < halcon> 	groups: enc
14:59 < halcon> 	status: active
14:59 < halcon> pflog0: flags=141<UP,RUNNING,PROMISC> mtu 33136
14:59 < halcon> 	index 4 priority 0 llprio 3
14:59 < halcon> 	groups: pflog
14:59 < halcon> wg0: flags=80c7<UP,BROADCAST,DEBUG,RUNNING,NOARP,MULTICAST> mtu 1420
14:59 < halcon> 	index 5 priority 0 llprio 3
14:59 < halcon> 	wgport 51820
14:59 < halcon> 	wgpubkey /ALPoVJpM1d43GN3yzrAY2lpNNfYV/NyEmOhSC/wzlA=
14:59 < halcon> 	groups: wg
14:59 < halcon> 	inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
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15:05 < jmcunx> you should use something like: nc termbin.com 9999 < YOUR-File
15:06 < jmcunx> for these things :)  In the channel there is a recommended toolm but I cannot see it since the 'hearder' rolled off the screen
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15:17 < kodcode> I want to format an USB drive with a FAT32 partition. Ran fdisk -i sd1, edtied with fdisk -e partition 3 to 0C, now when I run 'newfs_msdos -F 32 /dev/sd1i' I get "block device". Can someone help?
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15:27 < pardis> you need to either just provide the name of the device (without sd1i) or the path to the raw device (/dev/rsd1i)
15:27 < pardis> newfs doesn't work on block devices
15:27 < pardis> s/without //
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15:28 < pardis> the EXAMPLES section of newfs_msdos(8) illustrates this
15:30 < kodcode> pardis: Thank you.
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23:18 < frodo> I see that AR9380 wifi devices are mentioned a bit in changelogs, but not listed on the athn manpage. Is there any hope of supporting such a card in 7.6?
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23:56 < vortexx> frodo: you'd be better off finding a more modern card, athn is very long in the tooth now.
23:57 < vortexx> not that wifi is very good in OpenBSD anyway
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