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01:17 < seninha> anelli, yes; security sake. I don't want to have my keys hold the entire X11 session (which is the entire time my laptop is on) but also want to not type in my private key password twice in a row in the same terminal.
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01:26 < thrig> security? just drink the sake to cope
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01:32 < seninha> physical access security in this case (living the laptop powered at the uni library, etc)
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01:50 < pardis> security sake sounds delicious
01:52 < pardis> seninha: is there actually any reason to run a separate ssh-agent per tty? why not juse have one ssh-agent but with short key lifetimes?
01:52 < pardis> there is no real security boundary between two ssh-agents
01:53 < pardis> all that is needed to break down that fence is guessing the right socket name
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01:53 < seninha> I just want to remove the keys when i am done with a terminal session.
01:53 < seninha> Kinda like doas/sudo behavior.
01:55 < mischief> you can write a shell script to do it?
01:55 < pardis> trap 'ssh-add -D' EXIT
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01:58 < seninha> hmm
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13:37 < vortexx> damn, upgrade to FTTH failed due to lack of tooling. Maybe next week, sigh
13:38 < renaud> they did put on 20/03 at 21:00 papers in my mailbox telling they would open the sidewalk from the 10/03
13:38 < renaud> to lay the fiber
13:38 < IcePic> FailToTheHome
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13:39 < renaud> so, if you haven't seen the paper, which is quite sure since nobody checks his letterbox at 9PM, you have all your vehicles blocked in your garage
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13:39 < renaud> I am lucky, they stopped just before my house
13:39 < renaud> beginning a Friday...
13:42 < vortexx> they did the connection to the building back in August, I got a notification that FTTH was available end of Nov and ordered the line early Jan
13:43 < vortexx> and now the electrician discovers they failed to add a pipe to connect the outside to the inside for the fiber to go through. Plus needed a 1m long drill bit
13:45 < renaud> that's a very long drill bit
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13:48 < anelli> more like drill lot(s) :b
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14:01 < sonya> 1m walls.. that's an old castle it seems..
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14:05 < adig> Are there plans for implementing apic in vmm?
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14:33 < renaud> sonya: castle walls are generally between 2.5 and 6m thick (or more) :)
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14:37 < sibiria> 0.5 to 1 meter is typical outer wall in european apartment buildings
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14:39 < debugbsd> Hi! Good afternoon
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14:43 < debugbsd> I've a question regarding the alc ethernet device I have into a laptop. The question it self is that ifconfig says that the supported media is 100baseTX althought tha man page says that the device supports 1000BaseT so I wonder if is it possible to change that setting by hand or it depends on the device driver? The wire I'm using is Wire 6A UTP (which supports until 10Gbps and I know that because on 
14:43 < debugbsd> another computer I have a network interface capable of 10Gbps).
14:44 < debugbsd> The device is detected by OpenBSD as: alc0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Attansic Technology E2200" rev 0x13: msi, address d8:cb:8a:84:db:cc
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14:44 < sibiria> you can change the media to what you want
14:45 < debugbsd> by ifconfig?
14:45 < sibiria> best if you do it in the hostname.if
14:45 < sibiria> e.g. "media 100baseTX"
14:45 < debugbsd> Ok, thanbk you, I'll try that
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14:46 < sibiria> you can get ifconfig to spit o... ok
14:47 < anelli> 4/14
14:47 < anelli> sorry irssi
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14:48 < sibiria> you can get ifconfig to spit out a list of media types the driver allow for that interface, with "ifconfig <if> media"
14:48 < debugbsd> I tried that, but, it didn't allow me to do it. I mea, I tried this in the command line: doas ifconfig alc0 media "1000baseT", but the result was: ifconfig: alc0: SIOCSIFMEDIA: Invalid argument
14:49 < sibiria> remove the quotes
14:49 < debugbsd> same result
14:49 < debugbsd> -> doas ifconfig alc0 media 1000baseT
14:49 < debugbsd> <- ifconfig: alc0: SIOCSIFMEDIA: Invalid argument
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14:49 < sibiria> do you get 1000baseT if you do: ifconfig alc0 media
14:49 < sibiria> is it even listed there?
14:50 < debugbsd> yes
14:50 < debugbsd> I'll pase to pastebin the result of ifconfig media
14:50 < sibiria> put it in the hostname.if and netstart it?
14:50 < debugbsd> Ok
14:51 < renaud> netstart does the same things as what you would do manually
14:52 < sibiria> yes, but it interprets the lines a bit differently
14:53 < sibiria> also you may need to down/delete the interface first, because the netstart script doesn't clean up before it sets the new parameters
14:53 < debugbsd> In the meanwhile, here is the ppaste: https://pastebin.com/URfrcgwe
14:54 < debugbsd> Ok', I understand you
14:54 < renaud> are you sure the switch on which the cable is connnected supports 1000baseT?
14:54 < sibiria> cut it open and count the wires for us
14:54 < sibiria> and recite the colors
14:54 < sibiria> ok i'll show myself out
14:54 < debugbsd> The wire is connected to the router, and the router fully supports until 10Gbps
14:55 < renaud> are you sure the router port does not use fixed settings?
14:55 < renaud> some like to use fixed settings instead of auto negotiate
14:55 < debugbsd> completelly, because I have other windows computers with 1Gbps interface
14:55  * sonya is flooding offtopic, sorry: 1m is approx 5pc of US-Std bricks (8").. and that's A LOT.. even for 20+ floor building.. though i could be wrong all the way.. just didn't notice may be.. 
14:56 < renaud> sonya: US houses are brittle compared to EU houses
14:56 < sonya> renaud: yeah, sure, thay are wooden pos mostly :))
14:57 < anelli> *thinks of something to ask to save face* is there a way to combine `ssh -i ~/.ssh/cvskey' with cvs? i have cvs running as a cronjob to sync files from my server and it uses a passwordless ssh key. doing an `ssh-add /home/me/.ssh/cvskey' then `cvs -qd cvs@example:/home/cvs up -Pd -A' works interactively but sometimes crashes when run as a cron job with the error `Could not open a connection to your 
14:57 < anelli> authentication agent.' then a `cvs@example: Permission denied (publickey).'  i tried CVS_RSH from the cvs(1) and ran a "CVS_RSH='ssh -i /home/me/.ssh/cvskey' cvs -qd cvs@example:/home/cvs up -Pd -A" but i'm getting `cvs [update aborted]: cannot exec ssh -i /home/me/.ssh/cvskey: No such file or directory'. sorry for the long question but yeah any good way to run cvs on ssh via a cronjob? thx
14:58 < sibiria> outer walls made two-by-fours and drywalling, with vinyl siding to make it look like wooden panels. it goes up quick, and it goes down quick
14:58 < renaud> debugbsd: did you try a live linux on the same computer to be sure it connects at 1gbps?
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14:59 < debugbsd> Nope
14:59 < debugbsd> that could be an option
14:59 < debugbsd> I didn't try it
15:00 < debugbsd> This computer has OpenBSD since 2019, before OpenBSD it had Windows 10 and I don't remember exactly which bandwith had the network interface
15:00 < anelli> here's my current script http://okturing.com/src/24093/body
15:01 < renaud> that's an easy test, just to see if the interface supports it on linux. If it does, there might be an issue on OpenBSD, if you are still at 100mbps, the problem is not the OS
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15:01 < debugbsd> yeah, fortunatelly I've a Fedora usb stick I can use to test it
15:02 < debugbsd> thank you so much for your time
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15:16 < debugbsd> I tried with a Fedora 40 Workstation and when I did dmesg it told me I had 1 Gbps meanwhile here in OpenBSD it's still telling me I've 1000baseTX
15:17 < sibiria> did you mean 10 Gbps?
15:17 < debugbsd> I tried to unplug the wire which goes from the router to the Windows computer and to plug it into OpenBSD and the same thing
15:18 < debugbsd> I meant 100baseTX
15:18 < sibiria> it sure sounds like a case of documentation and driver not being in parity
15:19 < debugbsd> I don't know
15:19 < debugbsd> I have a USB network interface at the office, I think I'll try with that interface 
15:20 < debugbsd> thank you so much for everything anyway
15:20 < sibiria> i wonder... does anything happen if you also specify the mediaopt? in other words:   media 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex
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15:21 < sibiria> with some drivers (or all?) there's some disparity between the default and being explicit about it
15:22 < sibiria> ifconfig will report the interface settings differently even if one media type only supports one media option
15:22 < sibiria> re(4) is one of those drivers
15:23 < debugbsd> it could be
15:23 < sibiria> so what happens if oyu.... ifconfig alc0 media 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex
15:24 < debugbsd> it's quite frustrating download things at 3MB/s when I usually do it at 600MB/s xD
15:24 < sibiria> if you're getting just 3 mb/s on Fast Ethernet something is wrong
15:25 < sibiria> should land you at 11 mb/s or so
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15:25 < debugbsd> nope
15:25 < debugbsd> since I've OpenBSD installed here I never had anything about 11 MB/s
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15:28 < debugbsd> sorry!
15:28 < sonya> should the alc0 be down before adj? i mean # ifconfig alc0 down && ifconfig alc0 media 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex && ifconfig alc0 up
15:29 < debugbsd> I allways have the same probem, it says that the network interface does not support that option
15:29  * sonya is sorry, leaving..
15:29 < sibiria> sonya: i personally make a habit of downing/deleting the interface first when making those changes, since ifconfig (and the netstart script) has a habit of not making certain changes stick
15:30 < sonya> sibiria: yes, exactly
15:30 < sonya> sibiria: thx
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15:31 < debugbsd> well I've to go back to work, thank you very much all of you!
15:31 < ssm_> I have spent more time than I'd want to admit debugging wireless connections because I forgot to unset bssid or chan
15:31 < debugbsd> see you later
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15:31 < ssm_> s/debugging/troubleshooting
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16:31 < Lucas_> probably the same can be done with bssid and chan
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16:46 < debugbsd> 3
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16:53 < vortexx> sonya: nah it's a newly renovated 1902 building, which they thickened the walls of to improve insulation
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22:24 < adonis> how would I go about handling DSCP with pf? I'm using fq-codel but it seems can't differentiate between tcp packets of the same length but different dscp values..
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22:39 < mischief> adonis: check the `tos` keyword in pf.conf
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