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06:00 < echelon> what truecrypt drama
06:00 < echelon> i thought they just disappeared
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07:19 < byteskeptical> echelon: CVE-2015-7358 & CVE-2015-7359, also the maintainers warned of such things in 2014 when they abandoned the project
07:21 < echelon> eh, all windows related
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07:33 < byteskeptical> echelon: well the whole story is a rabbit hole feel free to jump in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueCrypt
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07:58 < svragv> any spanish speaking openbsd users? ^_^
07:58 < svragv> I might document a bit of OpenBSD utilities in a spanish wiki i'm currently working on, wanted to know if someone would be interested
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08:33 < anthk_> myself; but most technical people has English skills 
08:33 < anthk_> these are mandatory, either with a trade or a bachelor
08:33 < anthk_> at least under IT
08:34 < svragv> That is true, but it would also be a surprise
08:34 < svragv> I've known technical people who cannot say a word in English
08:34 < svragv> somehow they can interpret documentation (not read, interpret )
08:34 < anthk_> technical English it's easy; I've seen more obtuse commercial novels to undersand
08:34 < svragv> hahaha, very real
08:34 < svragv> But i don't think it would harm to have a spanish resource for BSDs
08:35 < anthk_> no, but they might get out of sync with the English ones
08:35 < svragv> And i think it's easier to understand new concepts in a native language
08:35 < anthk_> it depends
08:35 < svragv> Ah, nah, i'm not translating the official documentation. I'm writing my own stuff with the things I've done lol
08:35 < svragv> In the hope it would help someone
08:36 < anthk_> the problem in Spain it's that the public education on English sucks at lot
08:36 < anthk_> it's like a huge scam to join private (non-public) courses to get the official certs
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08:37 < svragv> Very real. I remember that I never opened the "Students book" or the "workbook"
08:37 < anthk_> I've learnt more English by playing English translated JRPG's under Unixen than at school
08:38 < svragv> Me too, not JRPGs but boomer shooters
08:38 < svragv> if we cound deus ex as a boomer shooter
08:38 < anthk_> no
08:38 < anthk_> an FPS/RPG mix
08:38 < anthk_> you were not supposed to play it like Quake
08:38 < anthk_> at least at first
08:39 < svragv> I mean, yeah
08:39 < svragv> But deus ex is a boomer game and it's a shooter
08:39 < anthk_> stealth worked better. Now, with proper biotech upgrades, nearly at the endgame, yes.
08:39 < anthk_> not a boomer shooter
08:39 < svragv> I mean you have a point
08:39 < anthk_> boomer shooter = it moves -> shoot it
08:40 < anthk_> yeah, I lived through that, Deus Ex was not the pace of Unreal at all, even if they share the same engine
08:40 < anthk_> now, there's the Surreal Engine, I wish they finished it, it could work under OpenBSD
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08:41 < anthk_> https://github.com/dpjudas/SurrealEngine
08:43 < svragv> Yeah,. i knew you'd define boomer shooter like that lol
08:43 < svragv> call me heretic but I run freebsd in my desktop
08:43 < svragv> i only have openbsd in my machine that faces the internet :)
08:46 < anthk_> openbsd in the desktop it's easier than  fbsd  to me
08:46 < anthk_> no need to fight with modules
08:46 < anthk_> just one firewall
08:46 < anthk_> sndiod works...
08:46 < svragv> what about graphics?
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08:52 < anthk_> intel or amd fine, nvidia nope
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11:49 < sinvet> latest assembly programming manual, released in this instance under BSD 3 clause license. https://drive.proton.me/urls/4TNRF2FWSR#ymAAUV8RQ9hB 
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12:57 < jmcunx> Another saturday morning reading, and /usr/games/tetris is one of my got games :)
12:57 < jmcunx> https://time.com/7274527/henk-rogers-discovering-tetris/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us
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13:25 < anthk_> hello jmcunx 
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14:04 < jmcunx> Hi anthk_ 
14:08 < sinvet> https://ebooks.papacambridge.com/directories/CCEA/CCEA-ebooks/upload/porter-furthermathematics.pdf
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14:28 < thrig> safer than fuhermathematics
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14:38 < vortexx> all these links to tangentially OpenBSD subjects should really go in #openbsd-social, thanks.
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14:44 < usagi_mimi> Concerning sysctl(2). hw.battery.chargemode seems to do the same thing for me if set to 1 or 0. Assuming I have hw.battery.chargestop=80 and hw.battery.chargestart=40. Am I running on AC power alone and not using the battery if it's at 80+%? Also. hw.battery.chargemode doesn't seem to do anything when set to "1" unless I change the value of chargestart to something higher than 80. Is this expected
14:44 < usagi_mimi> behaovir or just a quirk with this particular machine?
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14:46 < usagi_mimi> apm doesn't report that it's charging when at 80+% with those values. But I'm unsure if it's sipping power off of the battery and constantly topping it up or if it's by-passing it and pulling directly off AC.
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14:55 < usagi_mimi> Sometimes I use that machine at the desk for days at a time where it's hooked up to the mains. I've already killed a laptop battery doing that before when I didn't know any better. So I'm paranoid about it as the one in that machine is harder to replace.
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14:58 < vortexx> probably depends on the machine but it should be getting power straight from the AC if the battery is charged
14:58 < vortexx> not that I'm 100% certain of that
15:00 < usagi_mimi> Re-reading the man page this seems like how it's supposed to be. I'm surprised there isn't a way to forcefully by-pass the values to charge to 100% when wanted. I guess I'll write a script to do it then.
15:01 < usagi_mimi> I know this machine has the ability to by-pass the battery in the BIOS and run off AC only. But it's mostly for replacing it I think. Since you had to toggle that before opening it up if you don't want to void the warranty.
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15:02 < usagi_mimi> On past laptops I would simply pull the battery if I expected not to need it for a long time. But on this machine it's internal and requires cracking open the case.
15:02 < oldlaptop> some thinkpads (going back fifteen years or more here) will throttle themselves if they don't have a battery *and* they judge the AC adapter to be inadequate
15:03 < oldlaptop> (because in that situation they expect to need to use the battery to cover load spikes and so on)
15:04 < usagi_mimi> I've noticed something odd with the firmware on this one
15:05 < usagi_mimi> From time to time like when I was messing with hw.battery.chargemode just now the machine will freeze for a moment. Then when it comes back up the last key I pressed will be repeated sometimes up to 20+ times. I've had that randomly happen to me a few times in the past week. 
15:06 < usagi_mimi> I searched around the web and I've seen some other people reporting having the same issue in various Linux distros. 
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15:29 < sonya> hello.. a rhetorical question: is it the default "BlankTime" (10 mins) for a monitor to sleep on inactivity? thanks
15:29 < lts> What is the question?
15:29 < lts> 10 minutes is pretty common if that is what you mean
15:30 < sonya> the question is: is it this (default) option or it's explicitly set elswhere?
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15:38 < sonya> well, never mind.. seems like defaults are here: "BlankTime", "StandbyTime", "SuspendTime" and "OffTime"..
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23:57 < usagi_mimi> What are some good ntp servers that aren't cloudflare and google. 
23:58 < byteskeptical> usagi_mimi: the default pool.ntp.org
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