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I'm being called away to London for a few days. Meredith, I'll call you when I get back. Hasta la vista, baby.] 05:12 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has joined #openbsd 05:14 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@223.87.244.17] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 05:22 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:22 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 05:39 -!- lil_lasagna [~Ivan@178.237.236.155] has joined #openbsd 05:41 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:43 -!- feriman [~feriman@user/feriman] has joined #openbsd 05:46 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@223.87.244.17] has joined #openbsd 05:49 -!- \subline_ [~join_subl@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:07 -!- hiddener [~topseykra@mail.grimidalv.org] has joined #openbsd 06:08 -!- eki [~eki@159-255-247-158.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:08 -!- eki [~eki@159-255-247-158.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openbsd 06:14 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@223.87.244.17] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 06:14 -!- ivdsangen 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involves a tunnel 06:28 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has joined #openbsd 06:29 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:29 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has joined #openbsd 06:30 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:30 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has joined #openbsd 06:31 -!- toxic063 [~toxic0@82.66.203.96] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:31 < Lucas_> ssm_: yep, IPsec 06:31 < Lucas_> or wireguard 06:42 -!- antanst [~antanst@user/antanst] has joined #openbsd 06:43 -!- cantelope [uid598105@hampstead.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:44 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:45 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@223.87.244.17] has joined #openbsd 06:47 -!- duri [~mduregon@97-120-149-126.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47 -!- ninex [ninex@user/ninex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47 -!- ninex [ninex@user/ninex] has joined #openbsd 06:48 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has joined #openbsd 06:50 -!- duri [~mduregon@97-120-149-126.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #openbsd 06:52 < OldHead> I though you could use auth_sys or gss for NFSv4 auth 06:52 < OldHead> assuming v4 is being used, I didn't ask about that 06:58 < k0ga> you can always use Kerberos 06:59 < k0ga> I would say that nfs+kerberos is the classical solution to this problem 06:59 < mischief> openbsd doesnt's support v4 i thought? 07:00 < ssm_> if you looked at the v4 spec for 30 seconds you'd see why 07:01 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:03 < IcePic> obsd doesnt do nfsv4 07:03 -!- grub [~luis@user/thebeastie] has joined #openbsd 07:03 < IcePic> there actually was a small diff set long long long ago, but it was weird and did not get merged 07:04 -!- beastie 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I downloaded and installed it just fine 18:07 -!- \subline [~join_subl@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #openbsd 18:08 < BasketCase> also, both of those forwardings are disabled by default anyway 18:08 -!- pyu [~pyu@cm222-166-4-59.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08 < ssm_> BasketCase: joke is version is 10.0/16. should be 10/8, but you take what you can get 18:09 < BasketCase> oh, not used to seeing subnets not listed completely so didn't get it 18:12 -!- shreven [~shreven@user/shreven] has joined #openbsd 18:12 < BasketCase> also, good timing on the explanation. 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i was following poolp's guide https://poolp.org/posts/2019-09-14/setting-up-a-mail-server-with-opensmtpd-dovecot-and-rspamd/ and it recommends 1024 as most providers can't read 2048 correctly but i'm not sure if this still applies as it was in 2019. what's yall's experience with using a 2048 key? thx 19:40 -!- HaikuUser [~vision@178.237.248.23] has quit [Quit: Vision[]: i've been blurred!] 19:41 -!- freakazoid332 [~frkazoid3@2603-9000-cff0-78c0-6065-e1b7-be3d-cd19.inf6.spectrum.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@2a03:c23:c6d8:0:f59e:91f8:6278:5a20] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@2a03:c23:c6d8:0:f59e:91f8:6278:5a20] has joined #openbsd 19:44 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:45 -!- gatlinggoat [~Thunderbi@2600:4040:ad65:b400:d41d:cf3f:fce7:a533] has joined #openbsd 19:45 < echelon> how do i keep my ports directory up to date? 19:46 < ssm_> echelon: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html 19:46 < echelon> anelli: according to google ai: > For DKIM, while 1024-bit keys were historically used, the standard and recommended key size for RSA is now 2048 bits for enhanced security. 19:46 < echelon> thanks 19:46 < anelli> google what 19:47 < anelli> aw helll nah 19:47 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@2a03:c23:c6d8:0:f59e:91f8:6278:5a20] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:47 < ssm_> anelli: use 4096 corpomail can suck it 19:48 < tux0r> 2058 works on my poolp-like server 19:48 < tux0r> *2048 19:48 < echelon> > problem with 4096-bit RSA keys is that the public part will exceed the maximum size of a DNS packet over UDP (which is the default). This will cause the DNS to return a 'truncation' response, forcing the DNS client to switch to TCP instead. 19:50 < anelli> ssm_: lmao alr :b 19:50 < BasketCase> assuming you run a DNS server that serves TCP :P 19:50 < anelli> tux0r: alrighty will go with that 19:50 < anelli> thx yall 19:50 < anelli> except echelon. you get a strike 19:51 < echelon> why aren't elliptical curve ciphers standard yet 19:53 < anelli> i don't have rdns anyways so i'm fricked anyways. i'll give it a ride and if it no worky ig i'll use a relay 19:53 < anelli> hosting at home 19:53 < echelon> ah 19:54 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 19:54 -!- izder456 [~izder456@syn-035-148-122-041.res.spectrum.com] has joined #openbsd 19:54 -!- Filystyn [~piotr@user/filystyn] has joined #openbsd 19:55 < Filystyn> guys 19:55 < Filystyn> long time no see 19:55 -!- frkazoid333 [~frkazoid3@2603-9000-cff0-78c0-b055-80ad-6f0a-6bc1.inf6.spectrum.com] has joined #openbsd 19:55 < Filystyn> I have a question 19:56 < Filystyn> how is that in openbsd we have no distos and in linux we have. Like distro in linux seem to be something a little more right, not only installed soft. ( wchic is imho true ). 19:56 < Filystyn> which* 19:56 < echelon> because bsd's have their own unique kernels 19:56 < echelon> whereas linux distros share the same kernel 19:57 < Filystyn> ok this much I know the question is why in bsd land no one shares kernel ? 19:57 < echelon> you could say that pfsense, opnsense, hardenedbsd are all distros of freebsd 19:57 < Filystyn> i see 19:57 < ssm_> Filystyn: each existing *BSD has a unique usecase that are incompatible 19:57 < Filystyn> so it happens but less since it's smaller 19:58 -!- Aedil [~adrian@188.193.3.19] has joined #openbsd 19:58 < Filystyn> so usercase defines kernel 19:58 < ssm_> I tried out netbsd recently and expected it to be similar to openbsd, and while you can definitely see the DNA it's completely different 19:58 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:58 < Filystyn> btw i think debian actualy has some changes in linux kernel 19:59 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:59 < echelon> yes, distros can make their own customizations without pushing them upstream, which is frowned upon 19:59 < thrig> also the BSD ship a more or less complete system, while linux has a kernel and userland splitbrain 20:02 < ssm_> freebsd definitely has the most rot in terms of largely pointless forks, maybe that's just a consequence of becoming large enough. the only one I know that's a serious fork is dragonflyBSD (and pfsense I guess?), but I never hear about it 20:02 -!- Guest47 [~textual@2409:40d1:12:6161:def:cb00:751a:48fd] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:07 < ssm_> unfortunately macos also falls in the largely pointless fork category even if it's just some userland components :) 20:07 < Filystyn> thx for answers 20:07 < ssm_> I learned macos also packages openbsd's mg by default, it's the only openbsd component I know of in macos besides tmux and openssh 20:09 < xse> macos replaced rsync by openrsync super recently too 20:09 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 20:12 -!- \subline_ [~join_subl@104.158.55.191] has joined #openbsd 20:12 < xse> > https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250408062403 20:12 -!- adig_ [~default@2a02:2f0e:f802:5301:edc5:fc66:de45:79d3] has joined #openbsd 20:12 < tux0r> to be fair, macos is multiple pointless forks 20:12 < tux0r> mach, freebsd, some of next 20:13 < tux0r> i had not seen mg on my mac(s) until today, so TIL 20:14 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:14 -!- adig [~default@2a02:2f0e:fe1c:3e01:8dcb:236c:ff5f:4cef] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:15 -!- niftily [~niftily@user/niftily] has joined #openbsd 20:22 -!- shtrophic [~m-hrdsqi@user/shtrophic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 -!- Guest40 [~Guest40@89.39.70.61] has joined #openbsd 20:26 -!- shtrophic [~m-hrdsqi@user/shtrophic] has joined #openbsd 20:26 -!- Guest40 [~Guest40@89.39.70.61] has quit [Client Quit] 20:26 -!- Leo_V [~Leo@104-195-237-50.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:26 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 20:27 -!- shtrophic [~m-hrdsqi@user/shtrophic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 20:31 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:31 -!- CrashOverride [~strcat@p57b4b396.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:35 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@83-84-59-127.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:36 -!- gh34 [~textual@syn-184-058-181-106.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:38 -!- obcecado [pcaetano@user/obcecado] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:39 -!- obcecado [pcaetano@user/obcecado] has joined #openbsd 20:40 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 20:43 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@156.59.50.245] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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(that's the only one I want!) 21:05 < henrix> tux0r: I don't think it's dying. at least not yet ;-) 21:05 -!- izder456 [~izder456@syn-035-148-122-041.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06 < tux0r> :-( 21:07 < henrix> diversity *is* a good thing, even if there are people try to make it illegal ;-) 21:08 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:08 < Bradipo> henrix: I have other means of ad blocking. 21:09 < tux0r> "diversity" and "have awful alternatives" are different things 21:09 < tux0r> firefox fills a niche that does not exist: "chrome but without chrome". 21:10 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 21:10 < fro> it isn't chrome tho 21:10 < fro> i don't know why you keep on with that 21:10 < henrix> Bradipo: got it. 21:10 < fro> either way 21:10 < fro> nothing to do with openbsd 21:11 < henrix> oh well, i'll just go do something else that doesn't involve browsers 21:11 < henrix> thanks everyone 21:12 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1012:bd92:233e:b6b3:570d:a733] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:16 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 21:16 -!- jgh [~jgh@hellmouth.gulag.org.uk] has joined #openbsd 21:17 < anelli> henrix: disabling js usually works for ads. might not be for everyone depending on how many webapps you use 21:17 * oldlaptop would not be *utterly* shocked if such an error were pledge/unveil related - more likely unveil 21:20 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 21:22 < xse> my computer habits include a lot of random videos playing in the background while i do other stuff and sponsorblock is an awesome addon for thoses https://irc.krkrkr.org/uploads/xse/d20fe927-sponsorblock.png 21:22 < xse> there's also an mpv addon for non-browser people iirc 21:24 < RootCellar> I use Firefox w/ NoScript and uBlockOrigin for web browsing. I just use chromium for non-"browsing" (ie. stuff I log into and stay on) 21:25 < RootCellar> other reason for having two browsers is so I can configure Firefox to use a SOCKS proxy too 21:25 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:26 -!- Aedil [~adrian@188.193.3.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:26 < RootCellar> without making *all* of my web traffic do the same thing 21:28 -!- noone [~six@user/six] has joined #openbsd 21:38 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 21:40 -!- zami3l9 [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has joined #openbsd 21:41 -!- manymore [~gary@149.88.30.83] has joined #openbsd 21:42 -!- zami3l [~zami3l@185.157.244.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:42 -!- zami3l9 is now known as zami3l 21:42 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:43 -!- krjst [~krjst@2604:a880:800:c1::16b:8001] has quit [Quit: bye] 21:45 -!- duri [~mduregon@97-120-149-126.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47 -!- Pixi [~Pixi@user/pixi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47 -!- Pixi [~Pixi@user/pixi] has joined #openbsd 21:48 -!- duri [~mduregon@97-120-149-126.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #openbsd 21:53 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53 -!- srfsh [~srfsh@user/srfsh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53 -!- srfsh [~srfsh@user/srfsh] has joined #openbsd 21:54 < bountyht> RE browsers I use firefox with an ad removing proxy and DNS filtering. 21:54 < bountyht> Other than a canvas mod addon it has no other extras. 21:54 < anelli> links2 > 21:54 < anelli> or w3m idk 21:54 < tylerius> unbound-adblock + ungoogled-chromium + uBlock origin works great for me. I also force dns request (port 53 udp && tcp) to my unbound instance via pf 21:55 < bountyht> Also, if anybody wants to know what the problem with torrenting into an NFS share was, it turns out transmission has a single threaded IO loop that goes bonkers when too heavy IO is requested or when the storage backend gets delays. 21:55 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 21:59 < IcePic> bountyht: seems a bit weird still 22:00 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00 < IcePic> I mean, it could be slow, but a torrent client should work on the oldest slow IDE disk, just .. slower. 22:00 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:05 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 22:05 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 22:07 < thrig> or a RAID5 array of USB floppy drives! 22:07 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 22:08 -!- krjst [~krjst@2604:a880:800:c1::16b:8001] has joined #openbsd 22:08 -!- vortexx [~nothing@casper.nineinchnetworks.ch] has joined #openbsd 22:08 -!- vortexx [~nothing@casper.nineinchnetworks.ch] has quit [Changing host] 22:08 -!- vortexx [~nothing@user/vortexx] has joined #openbsd 22:08 -!- zwr [~zwr@189.80.71.136] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:10 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 22:10 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2] 22:10 -!- maylay [~gren@104-0-22-170.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:11 < bountyht> IcePic: well they have a bunch of open issues on their github so I am buying the theory. 22:13 < mischief> i do not find it surprising that a program doing blocking io runs into issues on io that turns out to be highly latent or unreliable 22:13 -!- zwr [~zwr@189.80.71.136] has joined #openbsd 22:14 -!- hiddener [~topseykra@89.149.124.10] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:14 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:16 -!- maylay [~gren@2600:1702:537b:97e:7ed3:aff:fe1a:45ae] has joined #openbsd 22:16 -!- krjst [~krjst@2604:a880:800:c1::16b:8001] has quit [Quit: bye] 22:23 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:23 -!- chiselfuse [~chiselfus@user/chiselfuse] has joined #openbsd 22:27 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 22:32 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:35 -!- manymore [~gary@149.88.30.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:37 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 22:42 < sonya> henrix: try with fresh new profile.. and here 'uBlock origin' works.. 22:43 -!- krjst [~krjst@2604:a880:800:c1::16b:8001] has joined #openbsd 22:44 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has joined #openbsd 22:45 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Quit: ublx] 22:45 < sonya> also 'privoxy' is great if you need to filter traff, remove ads and so on.. 22:46 < sonya> low impact on perf, comparing to all browser addons 22:49 -!- donofrio [~donofrio@68.60.130.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:50 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040:0:8831:5fc:4e58:8382] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - 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