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01:36 < nacelle> anyone know how to get doas to not ask the root user for a password when running commands as someone else?
01:37 < nacelle> i've tried "permit nopass keepenv root" in doas.conf, doesnt seem to workpermit setenv { -ENV PS1=$DOAS_PS1 SSH_AUTH_SOCK } :wheel
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01:37 < nacelle> doh errant paste at the end there
01:37 < nacelle> i've tried "permit nopass keepenv root" in doas.conf, doesnt seem to work
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01:40 < ssm_> nacelle: use su(1) to step down from root, not doas
01:41 < nacelle> got it
01:41 < nacelle> done, easy
01:41 < nacelle> thank you
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01:46 < nacelle> hrmm, its not taking when its in /etc/rc.local
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01:49  * nacelle tries the crontab way
01:50 < nacelle> crontab as the user worked, no su needed, nice
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05:25 < rkta> Can I query if an IP address is blocked by pf? man page shows example to test if an ip is in a table, but I don't explicitly use tables. Here is my pf.conf: http://rkta.de/pub/pf.conf I cut most of it, it's just more block from rules.
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05:49 < ssm_> rkta: add log and optionally a tag in your rule
05:49 < ssm_> tag just makes it easier to locate
05:49 < ssm_> tcpdump to read the log, of course
05:50 < ssm_> you can also just listen on pflog0 directly in real time instead of waiting for it to log to a file
05:50 < quinq> It seems that servers are having a bit of trouble
05:51 < quinq> $ doas syspatch
05:51 < quinq> syspatch: Error retrieving https://cdn.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/syspatch/7.6/amd64/syspatch76-002_xserver.tgz: 503 Service Unavailable
05:51 < quinq> gzip: stdin: unrecognized file format
05:51 < quinq> tar: End of archive volume 1 reached
05:51 < quinq> tar: Sorry, unable to determine archive format.
05:53 < ssm_> quinq: probably just the particular mirror the cdn selected is throwing the 503
05:53 < ssm_> cdn.openbsd.org isn't distributing from openbsd.org, it selects what it thinks is the best server for you
05:54 < ssm_> you can find a list of alternative servers at https://openbsd.org/ftp.html
05:54 < quinq> Everything resolves to openbsd.map.fastlydns.net.
05:55 < rkta> ssm_: How does log help? I just want to know from a script if an address is blocked.
05:55 < ssm_> you need to log if a block happened, right?
05:56 < rkta> no, I want to know if an address is blocked. Does not matter if that address already tried to access the server.
05:57 < quinq> That sounds like a job for a hook
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05:57 < ssm_> quinq: yes, if you check the link I posted, cdn.openbsd.org uses the fastly cdn
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05:59 < rkta> for example, I block from 20.0.0.0 - 20.31.255.255. Now I want to know if 20.25.0.1 is blocked in a scriptable way.
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06:00 < ssm_> ping 20.25.0.1, assuming icmp is blocked
06:00 < ssm_> netcat's an option too
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06:01 < ssm_> if you need to test a specific port and it's tcp/udp
06:01 < rkta> That not tell me if I blocked it or if the remote just blocked ICMP.
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06:05 < IcePic> rkta: "if I blocked" is a bit vague. If the box running the ping has pf blocking it, you would get something like "could not send" from ping, but if the destination or some firewall in between is blocking you either get unreachable back or just pings that do not get a reply if it dropped the packet
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06:06 < rkta> IcePic: If I blocked means: I have a 'block from ...' rule in my pf.conf.
06:07 < ssm_> pflogd isn't going to report it in any capacity unless you add log to the rule. I read your pf.conf and your rules are incorrect. your rule currently prevents any interface on the specified subnets from sending traffic anywhere, and in both directions instead of just out. I think you want it the other way around, IE: block out to 20.0.0.0 - 20.31.255.255
06:08 < ssm_> if you want to block traffic from and to that address range, just remove the out rule as you had it but still replace `from` with `to`
06:08 < rkta> I want to block incoming traffic.
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06:09 < rkta> And it's not about logging. I want to query pf if any rule already matches a given IP.
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06:10 < IcePic> pf does not have a "simulation mode" to run a hypothetical packet through all rules and see if it would pass or not
06:11 < ssm_> `block in from X - Y` should be sufficient then. without `in` if one of your interfaces is configured to use the address in the range specified, it won't be able to send out traffic
06:12 < IcePic> you would need to simulate all possible in-out interface transitions, tagging, translation, adress-family changes, routing domain moves and so on to be able to know for certain if a specific packet would make it through a long ruleset or not
06:13 < rkta> ssm_: My interfaces aren't configured to use IP addresses from cloud providers, so I don't think I need to be that explicit here. ;)
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06:16  * ssm_ writes down some credentials from rkta for his sysadmin {black,white}list, but won't tell rkta which list it's going on, as it would be too explicit
06:16 < ssm_> well done
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06:17 < rkta> not sure what you are telling me here...
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06:17 < ssm_> guess I should have used log too!
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11:57 < vortexx> all VMs upgraded to 7.7 and upgrade of postgresql+zabbix-server went fine (major version upgrade for both). No problems upgrading major version of python either
11:57 < vortexx> now to wait for the official release so I can use sysupgrade on routers
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11:57 < prahou> soon
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12:01 < oldlaptop> What, you don't run your own installurl too?
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12:25 < vortexx> oldlaptop: I do but because I need the SHA256.sig for sysupgrade in the pub/OpenBSD/7.7/amd64 directory and I can't generate it (I guess I could with my signify keys but then I'd need to add them to the bsd.rd via rdsetroot) I usually wait for the official release so I can use their's
12:26 < vortexx> I upgrade the VMs via bsd.rd
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12:38 < pardis> if you're building a complete release, you can just put your own keys in at build time, no need to patch bsd.rd afterwards
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12:46 < vortexx> mh I guess I could do that, thanks
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12:47 < vortexx> https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250410053152 OpenSSH 10.0 released
12:47 < renaud> vortexx: which version of ssh did you get on your 7.7 machines?
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12:50 < vortexx> renaud: ssh -V
12:50 < vortexx> OpenSSH_9.9, LibreSSL 4.1.0
12:50 < renaud> strange 10.0 isn't in 7.7
12:50 < vortexx> this was with OPENBSD_7_7_BASE
12:50 < vortexx> yes indeed
12:50 < vortexx> might hit -stable
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12:55 < renaud> I would doubt a new version of openSSH makes it to -stable
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13:44 < Lucas_> renaud, vortexx: https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/usr.bin/ssh/version.h
13:45 < Lucas_> 10.0 is tagged OPENBSD_7_7{,_BASE}
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13:45 < Lucas_> tags can be modified and they're not final yet
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13:49 < IcePic> snapshots (for fast platforms) give you openssh 10.0
13:49 < IcePic> ssh -V
13:49 < IcePic> OpenSSH_10.0, LibreSSL 4.1.0
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16:53 < vortexx> mh /usr really fills up with 7.7, hitting 1.6Gb
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16:54 < Bradipo> Do you have older stuff that you haven't cleaned out of /usr ?
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16:55 < vortexx> Bradipo: I use sysclean after every upgrade so I shouldn't
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16:55 < Bradipo> sysclean just reports on what needs to be deleted, right?
16:55 < Bradipo> Do you actually follow-up by deleting what it suggests? :-)
16:57 < phy1729> Also should run sysclean after updating packages as it won't suggest libraries that are still used by packages
17:00 < Bradipo> Though, packages are usually on /usr/local...
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17:02 < phy1729> Right but if the packages still need the old libs in /usr sysclean won't list the old libs
17:04 < Bradipo> Oh, I see.
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17:19 < vortexx> Bradipo: I have a script to take what sysclean produces and deletes line by line
17:20 < vortexx> I run sysclean after pkg_add -u && pkg_delete -a
17:22 < Bradipo> Just checking to make sure it wasn't something obvious.
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18:38 < ssm_> I think I see why it's not in base
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18:53 < BasketCase> doesn't it only give you a list and let you figure out what to do?
18:54 < ssm_> sure, but what to do is not exactly obvious until you're already in trouble and largely not worth the effort
18:55 < ssm_> aka random library dependencies in ports breaking because the ports tree hasn't been fully rebuilt yet or something
18:55 < BasketCase> I would just consider it a list of things to look at and ignore everything that seems familiar
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18:57 < ssm_> well sysclean wouldn't really do anything for me then. regardless, pkg_check -F does largely the same thing in a somewhat less readable & scriptable format, and I don't need redundancy
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18:59 < BasketCase> I just ran it.  nothing it listed was from a package.  mostly it was stuff I added to /etc or things from packages I symlinked to /bin.  also, /dev/*.[sl]ock which hurts my eyes
19:01 < ssm_> I don't mean library dependencies from packages that are out of date, I mean libraries in base that are incompatible with packages, because rebuilding ports upstream takes a while
19:01 < ssm_> it's less of an issue on -stable but for -current I don't want to deal with it
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19:05 < ssm_> I mean I can just run my dpb in my fancy ports chroot and rebuild against my up-to-date libraries, but that's a lot of tree burning for not deleting a file
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19:35 < vortexx> I never thought sysclean as a tool for -current...
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19:47 < vortexx> s/thought/thought of/
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21:43 < ssm_> could be useful to put in root crontab if your /usr ever grows past 90% or something
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22:01 < vortexx>  ssm_: it used to be in /etc/daily but you can add it to /etc/daily.local
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22:24 < vortexx> well, there was df -kh or something in the daily mail
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22:25 < vortexx> then daily mails by default were judged superfluous
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