--- Log opened Mon Apr 28 00:00:01 2025 00:00 -!- frx [~frx@user/frx] has joined #openbsd 00:03 -!- nodelay [~zack@user/nodelay] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:03 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 00:09 -!- o0x1eef [~user@user/o0x1eef] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:09 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 00:12 < vortexx> tommyrot: upgraded & I'm able to go above 400Mbp on upload (488.17 Mbit/s) 00:12 -!- eht [~eht@user/eht] has joined #openbsd 00:12 < vortexx> still too slow but I'll take that improvement 00:15 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16 < vortexx> (using speedtest-cli to test) 00:18 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 00:19 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19 -!- mtoy_ [~mtoy@p5828035-ipxg00y01osakachuo.osaka.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #openbsd 00:20 -!- mtoy [~mtoy@user/mtoy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:21 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has quit [Quit: praying to the omnissiah] 00:23 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:26 -!- mischief [~mischief@2604:5500:c29f:e800::c0ca:c01a] has joined #openbsd 00:27 -!- jgh [~jgh@hellmouth.gulag.org.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 00:29 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 00:31 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31 -!- mtoy_ [~mtoy@p5828035-ipxg00y01osakachuo.osaka.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [] 00:32 -!- mtoy [~mtoy@user/mtoy] has joined #openbsd 00:34 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 00:35 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040::f61] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:35 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:38 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 00:40 -!- vdamewood [~vdamewood@fedora/vdamewood] has quit [Quit: Life beckons] 00:41 -!- frx [~frx@user/frx] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in] 00:42 -!- frx [~frx@user/frx] has joined #openbsd 00:48 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 00:51 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51 -!- eht [~eht@user/eht] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:51 < tux0r> avemestr: omnios (~illumos) currently 00:52 < tux0r> (and two openbsd servers which do *not* run pgsql) 00:53 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040:0:8831:5fc:4e58:8382] has joined #openbsd 00:53 < mischief> anyone ever tried to use upnp for ipv6 pinholes 01:01 -!- xet7 [~xet7@user/xet7] has joined #openbsd 01:02 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@171.88.40.220] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 01:03 -!- itrsea [~skaltar@user/itrsea] has joined #openbsd 01:04 < mischief> my generic 'block all' rule seems to be hit but miniupnpd put a pass rule in its anchor.. don't get why it isn't hit 01:05 < mischief> miniupnpd anchor rule is `pass in log quick on rge0 inet6 proto tcp from any port = 20002 to 2604:5500:c29f:e800:0:dead:c0de:1337 port = 20002 flags S/SA label "pinhole-2 ts-120035: IGD2 pinhole"` and the blocked frame in pflog is 01:05 < mischief> `Apr 27 18:03:14.474843 rule 2/(match) block in on rge0: 2604:a880:400:d0::20e2:c001.54498 > 2604:5500:c29f:e800:0:dead:c0de:1337.20002: S 3669839517:3669839517(0) win 64800 <[|tcp]> [flowlabel 0xb7ab3] 01:05 < mischief> `Apr 27 18:03:14.474843 rule 2/(match) block in on rge0: 2604:a880:400:d0::20e2:c001.54498 > 2604:5500:c29f:e800:0:dead:c0de:1337.20002: S 3669839517:3669839517(0) win 64800 <[|tcp]> [flowlabel 0xb7ab3]` 01:05 < mischief> oops. 01:06 < mischief> where rule 2 is just 'block log all' 01:06 < mischief> nvm an idiot, i should learn to read 01:06 < mischief> miniupnpd for some reason put a source port in the rule 01:08 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040:0:8831:5fc:4e58:8382] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:09 -!- talos [~talos@2600:6c5d:0:4b06:f62d:729d:8a65:3933] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - 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Maybe it would be time to fix them 01:58 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 01:59 < itrsea> What are the holes? 02:01 -!- talos [~talos@2600:6c5d:0:4b06:1836:1a51:7086:1572] has joined #openbsd 02:01 < oldlaptop> ISTR at least one was an ssh thing. 02:01 < oldlaptop> both something like 20 years ago now 02:04 < itrsea> Where is the buglist? I remember it was referenced in a man page. 02:06 < dax> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD#Security_record 02:09 < itrsea> When is the next hackathon? 02:15 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:15 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 02:16 -!- Old-Ben-Jabroni [~oldben@user/Old-Ben-Jabroni] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:19 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040:0:8831:5fc:4e58:8382] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 02:20 -!- chrisz [e9zl326mqm@195.52.129.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:20 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040:0:8831:5fc:4e58:8382] has joined #openbsd 02:22 -!- chrisz [mi39hsb8vw@195.52.140.217] has joined #openbsd 02:23 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2] 02:27 -!- tuftedocelot [~tuftedoce@2a03:6000:1019::57] has joined #openbsd 02:30 -!- MrHAPPY [~pxq@user/MrHAPPY] has joined #openbsd 02:35 -!- lts [~foobar@user/lts] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2] 02:37 -!- afresh1 [~afresh1@us.holligan.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:44 -!- lts [~foobar@user/lts] has joined #openbsd 02:46 -!- tvtoon [~The_cUnix@user/tvtoon] has quit [Quit: "Homelton alive!"] 02:53 -!- zip100- [~zip100@185.209.196.203] has joined #openbsd 02:54 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:55 -!- BudsOfStone [~BudsOfSto@syn-024-059-062-184.res.spectrum.com] has left #openbsd [] 02:56 < brynet> itrsea: hackathons are not open to the public, around when they take place hackathon.html gets edited. 02:58 < itrsea> thanks 02:58 -!- itrsea [~skaltar@user/itrsea] has left #openbsd [ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.4)] 02:58 < ssm_> lts: is "your mom has more holes than openbsd" a good slogan 03:12 -!- jedesa [~Thunderbi@user/jedesa] has quit [Quit: jedesa] 03:12 -!- dogg0 [~dogg0@user/dogg0] has joined #openbsd 03:15 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:18 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 03:20 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has joined #openbsd 03:43 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has joined #openbsd 03:46 -!- Zeftax [~Zeftax@user/Zeftax] has joined #openbsd 03:55 < lts> "Allowed pfctl(8) specification of interface and queue bandwidths greater than ~4Gbit." <-- it seems to me this does not work. 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They've already done so. Note that if you want to use it, they haven't named it OpenBSD but just "install77.iso". 07:10 < remiliascarlet> They have always named their ISO and IMG files like that, so nothing surprising. 07:12 -!- comradeCrow [~comradeCr@99-110-128-132.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 -!- limaunion [~superuser@73.red-81-34-103.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #openbsd 07:15 -!- nodelay [~zack@user/nodelay] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:15 -!- spacemonkey [~zack@user/nodelay] has joined #openbsd 07:19 < avemestr> I'm referring to Hetzners UI... Users cannot find the ISO image to attach if searching for "openbsd" but only if searching for "install7". 07:19 -!- dsrt^ [~dsrt@c-71-199-187-173.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:20 -!- ikarso [uid475540@id-475540.tinside.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 07:20 < avemestr> Normally, somebody else at Hetzner add the description after some time though, so one can find it by searching for openbsd :-) 07:20 -!- comradeCrow [~comradeCr@99-110-128-132.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openbsd 07:20 -!- dsrt^ [~dsrt@c-71-199-187-173.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #openbsd 07:22 < avemestr> Searching for openbsd gives the old one now: https://i.postimg.cc/Kjr54vXw/image.png Searching for install also gives the 7.7: https://i.postimg.cc/nh5SyrnG/image.png 07:24 -!- naoki [~Thunderbi@240f:10b:7440:1:621e:1437:870b:f42c] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:35 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:37 -!- emmanuelux_ [~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Quit: au revoir] 07:37 -!- xelxebar [~xelxebar@wilsonb.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:38 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 07:39 < remiliascarlet> Ah, I don't use any VPS hoster these days, so I don't know what's going on there. 07:43 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43 -!- jlavsund [jlavsund@2.71.71.5.mobile.tre.se] has joined #openbsd 07:44 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has quit [Quit: anelli] 07:44 -!- emmanuelux [~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45 -!- xelxebar [~xelxebar@wilsonb.com] has joined #openbsd 07:45 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has joined #openbsd 07:48 -!- Guest47 [~textual@2405:201:500d:211a:1d0e:dd65:2d5c:bbd0] has joined #openbsd 07:52 -!- mkukri [~quassel@user/mkukri] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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Is it possible to get X11 or at least terminal via HDMI on this hardware? I was unable to find any informations about it, so I guess I know the answer, but nevertheless maybe I missed something 09:27 < sibiria> not sure specifically about the rk3566 but for some it works if you "set tty fb0" on the boot prompt before booting 09:28 < sibiria> the usual approach is to use serial console on those, until the device is networked 09:28 < Emru> thanks, I'll try that after sysupgrade :) 09:28 < sibiria> which rk3566 board is it? 09:29 -!- jlavsund [jlavsund@2.71.71.5.mobile.tre.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30 < Emru> orange pi 3b 09:31 -!- WhyNotHugo [~WhyNotHug@anchor.whynothugo.nl] has joined #openbsd 09:36 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36 -!- eau [~chat@user/eau] has joined #openbsd 09:39 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 09:40 -!- zip100- [~zip100@185.209.196.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:42 -!- g4rrgl3n0m4d [~N0m4d@bl18-180-107.dsl.telepac.pt] has 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having a look at the dev-null/dev-zero device driver sources 10:09 < oldlaptop> OpenBSD hasn't had LKMs for years now, and never used them for drivers in practice; there's no such thing as compiling and loading "just" a driver. 10:10 < oldlaptop> (I suppose you could compile "just" your driver and relink, in more or less the same way you'd not necessarily recompile any other C program for every modification.) 10:12 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> so there's no equivalent to rmmod and modprobe in openbsd? 10:12 < IcePic> no 10:13 -!- cpk [~cpk@185.172.87.163] has joined #openbsd 10:13 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> while developing a driver/kernel module I need to restart the system just to test a single driver? 10:13 < IcePic> yes 10:13 < sibiria> yes. or you can relink the kernel and boot it quickly in a virtual machine 10:14 < IcePic> sibiria: but the driver would not attach unless the VM also has the device emulated for it 10:15 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> at least I have one of my questions answered :) 10:15 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> and when developing an driver I always need to build the all bsd file to test it? 10:16 < IcePic> g4rrgl3n0m4d: what kind of device are you aiming at? 10:16 < oldlaptop> I don't know what you mean by "the all bsd file". 10:16 < oldlaptop> You don't need to build a whole release(8). 10:16 < Emru> pass device to VM 10:16 < sibiria> IcePic: unless it's some internal device node to test things out with, e.g. dev-null, dev-zero, dev-random etc. 10:16 < sibiria> dev-hello! 10:17 < oldlaptop> You need to *link* a whole kernel, as I mentioned above. 10:17 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> well I was thinking about starting with fixing a minor bug with the type-cover keyboard on my surface, the caps lock led that is on and off randomly 10:18 < oldlaptop> (A full kernel build should also be on the order of minutes for most recent machines, even now after amdgpu(4) went in.) 10:19 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> I already compiled the all system from source 10:19 -!- zero-xray6 [~nonlinear@user/nonlinear] has joined #openbsd 10:19 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> using the current csv brach 10:20 < oldlaptop> I'd question whether those symptoms are any kind of *software* bug as opposed to something in hardware. 10:20 < oldlaptop> (It would be a pretty weird software bug.) 10:20 < IcePic> you should be able to edit stuff under /usr/src/sys.. and then rerun "make" from /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP after 10:20 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> but I was wondering about how to load the driver after making code changes 10:22 < IcePic> if I was to code for keyboard stuff, I would have the funky keyboard on a separate computer and see if I could netboot this other computer, using the "bsd" file that comes out of building the new (and improved?) kernel 10:22 -!- zero-xray [~nonlinear@user/nonlinear] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:22 -!- zero-xray6 is now known as zero-xray 10:22 < sibiria> yeah, similar to netbooting a dev kernel inside a vmm for quick testing 10:22 < IcePic> the build box would then host the file in the tftpboot dir for the funky machine to boot from, over and over as needed for tests 10:22 < sibiria> it's a good approach 10:23 * oldlaptop would also question, supposing that is a software bug, whether it's actually anything to do with the keyboard 10:24 < oldlaptop> as opposed to whatever other weird ACPI magic (?) 10:24 < oldlaptop> it still sounds more like a loose connection or something to me 10:25 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> well I have to surfaces mine and my wife's , I did install openbsd in a sd card and weird thing happens in both surfaces and respective keyboards so I assume is just some minor driver bug 10:25 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> running linux and freebsd there's no issues 10:26 < oldlaptop> Both good data that tend to suggest a software problem, indeed. 10:26 -!- rahl [rahl@otaku.sdf.org] has joined #openbsd 10:28 < g4rrgl3n0m4d> thank you for all the tips I feel more confident now to give it a try 10:35 < oldlaptop> (I suppose one other thing, in case you're not already aware: section 9 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Could not find it on the site. 13:27 -!- wnh [~Thunderbi@user/wnh] has joined #openbsd 13:27 < xse> 'https://mirror.openbsd.amsterdam/pub/OpenBSD' 13:28 -!- edthix [~Thunderbi@115.132.140.246] has quit [Quit: edthix] 13:30 -!- rIMpossible [~rIMpossib@ams.skapf.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33 * oldlaptop notes that they document their default installurl(5) as cdn.openbsd.org 13:33 < oldlaptop> (https://openbsd.amsterdam/setup.html#siteXX.tgz) 13:33 -!- edthix [~Thunderbi@115.132.140.246] has joined #openbsd 13:34 * RobbieAB prefers mirrorservice 13:36 < xse> seems somewhat documented in /setup.html "We use our own mirror ..." 13:36 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36 < xse> otherwise it's mostly stated in emails like "We are running a selective mirror for amd64 only, you can point your /etc/installurl to ...' 13:36 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 13:38 -!- nikolay_ [~nikolay@212-39-89-226.ip.btc-net.bg] has joined #openbsd 13:40 -!- krzych [krzych@user/krzych] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:42 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1002:c2b:8087:4946:b96c:3c84] has joined #openbsd 13:43 -!- hjckr [~nikolay@212-5-158-250.ip.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:43 -!- nikolay_ is now known as hjckr 13:43 -!- o0x1eef [~user@user/o0x1eef] has joined #openbsd 13:47 -!- \subline_ [~join_subl@104.158.55.191] has joined #openbsd 13:48 -!- nikolay_ [~nikolay@212-5-158-250.ip.btc-net.bg] has joined #openbsd 13:48 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:48 -!- tcberner [~quassel@212-51-143-151.fiber7.init7.net] has joined #openbsd 13:48 -!- tcberner [~quassel@212-51-143-151.fiber7.init7.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:48 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has joined #openbsd 13:49 -!- hjckr [~nikolay@212-39-89-226.ip.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:50 -!- nikolay_ is now known as hjckr 13:56 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: mtoy, mjt, cryptexx0, duckworld 13:56 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:57 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 13:58 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has joined #openbsd 13:59 -!- krzych [krzych@user/krzych] has joined #openbsd 13:59 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 14:00 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has left #openbsd [] 14:02 -!- rIMpossible [~rIMpossib@ams.skapf.de] has joined #openbsd 14:03 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has joined #openbsd 14:03 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has left #openbsd [] 14:03 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has joined #openbsd 14:04 < rIMpossible> Thank you. All machines/vps updated to OpenBSD 7.7. Went like a charme. 14:05 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:05 < rIMpossible> Thank you to all developers for this great release. 14:06 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has joined #openbsd 14:07 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has joined #openbsd 14:08 < miah> happy 7.7 release! 14:08 * RobbieAB starts the upgrade process with the nethack box 14:09 < RobbieAB> I have an old embedded board running 32-bit openbsd which I just use for nethack. :) 14:09 -!- Melon [~BlackMage@idlerpg/player/Melon] has joined #openbsd 14:10 -!- horrad [~Thunderbi@2003:a:61f:c901:9907:f2af:6ea5:44bb] has quit [Quit: horrad] 14:15 -!- tercal [~tercal@user/tercal] has joined #openbsd 14:16 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@dynamic-2a00-1028-8398-58be-0dde-7872-e098-3757.ipv6.o2.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@dynamic-2a00-1028-8398-58be-0dde-7872-e098-3757.ipv6.o2.cz] has joined #openbsd 14:17 -!- struchu [~struchu@staticline-31-183-172-152.toya.net.pl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.5.2] 14:17 < miah> fun! 14:18 < tercal> Hi, upgraded my OpenBSD 7.6 amd64 server to OpenBSD 7.7, so far - so good. Just a quick question, the sysclean tool reports the following files are no more needed; https://justpaste.it/jy79n 14:18 < tercal> Any idea would be much appreciated, thanks! 14:18 -!- normanLLy [~norman@41.252.35.204.adsl.zs1.dynamic.ltt.ly] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:18 -!- absc [absc@2a04:ee41:8:6055::101] has quit [Quit: Got to go. irctk 1.1.0-beta] 14:19 < IcePic> tercal: for the .so. libs, newer versions are in place, and for the manpages, the functions probably gone away 14:19 -!- MrHAPPY [~pxq@user/MrHAPPY] has joined #openbsd 14:20 < IcePic> commit from Jan-04: 14:20 < IcePic> Removed files: dist/fontconfig: README dist/fontconfig/conf.d: 10-no-sub-pixel.conf 14:20 < IcePic> nov-13 2024: 14:20 < IcePic> Log message: 14:20 < IcePic> merge tap(4) into tun(4). it's the one driver providing both interfaces. 14:21 < IcePic> tercal: all well it seems,fine to remove all entries from your sysclean 14:21 < tercal> IcePic: Thank you! So, safe to rm them - great, it seems this sysclean tool is doing its best! But I wonder how it "detects" and *knows* they are really not needed? Just wondering.. 14:21 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22 < IcePic> well, it's somewhat easy to deduce that if there is a libc.so.34 then libc.so.33 will not be called upon. Then I think it does check file manifests to find removed files, and also the ports db to make sure that not some old port would reach for libc.so.33 or whatever old libs are around 14:22 < IcePic> it will never be 100% perfect, but probably good for 99.9% of all normal users 14:23 -!- noone [~six@user/six] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 14:23 < renaud> and ages faster than doing it by hand 14:23 < renaud> you should just run sysclean without rm to verify, no trust it blindly 14:25 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 14:25 < tercal> renaud: Yes, always doing so. 14:25 < tercal> IcePic: Thank you, great tips! 14:25 < tercal> renaud: Indeed, it was reporting my customized "/etc/php-fpm3.conf" file as well. Just added it into sysclean.ignore file. 14:25 < RobbieAB> I don't recall seeing sysclean before... Though it is possible I used it when doing updates in the past and just have forgotten. 14:27 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 14:28 -!- kodcode [~kodcode@user/kodcode] has joined #openbsd 14:36 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2] 14:36 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:38 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@dynamic-2a00-1028-8398-58be-0dde-7872-e098-3757.ipv6.o2.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@dynamic-2a00-1028-8398-58be-0dde-7872-e098-3757.ipv6.o2.cz] has joined #openbsd 14:38 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:39 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 14:40 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has joined #openbsd 14:40 < Posterdati> hi 14:41 < Posterdati> please help, after upgrade to 7.7 and using pjg_check -vv I've got a lot of messages like "/usr/local/bin/xdg-email should exist" 14:41 < Posterdati> Thanks 14:44 < IcePic> Posterdati: (re)install the port xdg-utils 14:44 < IcePic> https://openports.pl/search?file=xdg-email&descr=&path=&pkgname=&category=&maintainer= 14:44 < Posterdati> is not only this packages 14:44 < Posterdati> is not only this package 14:47 -!- euphores [~SASL_euph@user/euphores] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:49 -!- Bradipo [~Bradipo@50.77.44.29] has joined #openbsd 14:50 -!- lavaball [~Melissa@31.204.155.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50 < Posterdati> is there a way to force a package reinstall? 14:51 < IcePic> pkg_add -r or -D repair should work if it already is there 14:52 < Posterdati> Warning: couldn't read packing-list from installed package xdg-utils 14:52 < Posterdati> File /var/db/pkg/xdg-utils/+CONTENTS does not exist 14:52 < Posterdati> Can't call method "thorough_check" on an undefined value at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/PkgCheck.pm line 836. 14:52 -!- b50d [~b50d@62.96.54.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52 -!- euphores [~SASL_euph@user/euphores] has joined #openbsd 14:56 < miah> maybe xdg-utils isn't installed at all? 14:56 < xse> '-u -Dinstalled somepkg' should reinstall somepkg 15:00 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:00 -!- gnucode1 [~gnucode@75.149.95.201] has joined #openbsd 15:01 -!- MiniontobyPI [Miniontoby@ircforever.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:02 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 15:02 -!- ludovicus [jimbo@user/ludovicus] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:03 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has joined #openbsd 15:03 -!- jgh [~jgh@hellmouth.gulag.org.uk] has joined #openbsd 15:04 -!- gnucode1 [~gnucode@75.149.95.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:05 -!- ludovicus [jimbo@user/ludovicus] has joined #openbsd 15:05 -!- m0v_ [~m0v@103.208.204.243] has joined #openbsd 15:06 -!- m0v [~m0v@user/m0v] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:12 -!- vxla [~vxla@user/vxla] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:13 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has joined #openbsd 15:15 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:16 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:17 -!- drathir_tor [~drathir@wireguard/tunneler/drathir] has joined #openbsd 15:19 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 15:21 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 15:24 -!- MrHAPPY [~pxq@user/MrHAPPY] has quit [] 15:26 -!- holsta [~holsta@user/holsta] has joined #openbsd 15:26 -!- MiniontobyPI [Miniontoby@ircforever.org] has joined #openbsd 15:28 -!- holsta [~holsta@user/holsta] has left #openbsd [WeeChat 4.5.2] 15:30 -!- manis [01a66df340@185.72.67.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:32 -!- MrHAPPY [~pxq@user/MrHAPPY] has joined #openbsd 15:36 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 15:41 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 15:42 -!- desh [~desh@47.151.60.172] has joined #openbsd 15:44 < euphores> Hi, my system emitted many "uaudio0: sync play xfer, err = 6" messages, now they are mostly gone. But I haven't seen any changes in usb audio, maybe this is because of uvm changes? 15:47 -!- vxla [~vxla@user/vxla] has joined #openbsd 15:47 < Bradipo> euphores: I see those occasionally too. Not sure what the cause is. 15:48 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:50 < euphores> nice, anyway 15:52 < euphores> the cause is usb throughput is insuficient, I think 15:52 < Bradipo> Could be. 15:53 < sibiria> insufficient? 15:53 < euphores> or latency? 15:53 < sibiria> latency could be it 15:53 < euphores> agree 15:56 < euphores> so, the the latency has been improved (by itself?), and no one has noticed this? 15:56 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57 -!- seninha [~seninha@user/seninha] has joined #openbsd 15:58 < euphores> or maybe, firefox has become faster 15:59 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 16:01 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:06 -!- normanLLy [~norman@41.252.35.204.ADSL.ZS1.dynamic.ltt.ly] has joined #openbsd 16:07 -!- szilard [~szilard@1F2EFB0C.nat.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openbsd 16:07 -!- fallback [fallback@2605:6400:20:b4:d215:d916:1183:4c75] has joined #openbsd 16:08 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has joined #openbsd 16:11 -!- \subline_ [~join_subl@104.158.55.191] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:11 -!- monkeybusiness [monkeybusi@monkeybusiness.shelltalk.net] has joined #openbsd 16:12 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@dynamic-2a00-1028-8398-58be-0dde-7872-e098-3757.ipv6.o2.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:13 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13 -!- monkeybusiness [monkeybusi@monkeybusiness.shelltalk.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:13 -!- monkeybusiness [monkeybusi@user/monkeybusiness] has joined #openbsd 16:14 -!- alx^ [~alx@195.15.28.34] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14 -!- serxoz [~serxoz@user/serxoz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:15 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openbsd 16:15 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:16 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 16:19 -!- ewig [~user@user/ewig] has joined #openbsd 16:21 -!- jgh [~jgh@hellmouth.gulag.org.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040:0:8831:5fc:4e58:8382] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - 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I just download bsd.rd and run through the upgrade that way. 19:41 < ssm_> rIMpossible: usually re-upgrading via booting /bsd.rd the system to replace the base system, and then pkg_check 19:42 < rIMpossible> Bradipo: I did the usual sysupgrade/pkg_add-u/sysmerge -d and it panicked twice during fsck and left the system in that state 19:42 < rIMpossible> ssm_: I'll try, never since 20 releases this happened 19:43 < ssm_> 1 catastrophic failure, in a heck of a long time! 19:44 -!- xpingpong [~quassel@lfbn-bor-1-967-14.w90-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 19:45 -!- tcberner [~quassel@212-51-143-151.fiber7.init7.net] has joined #openbsd 19:45 -!- tcberner [~quassel@212-51-143-151.fiber7.init7.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:45 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has joined #openbsd 19:46 -!- sd0 [~nobody@user/sd0] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:47 -!- henrix [~henrix@user/henrix] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:47 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:47 < rIMpossible> ssm_: No, that's not fair. The 2 panics during 2 fscks ruined it. On my other machines it runs fine 19:48 < ssm_> did you grab backtraces of the panics? 19:49 < ssm_> if it happens again, you should send it to bugs@ 19:50 < ssm_> you can mount your filesystems readonly to prevent corruption (or at the very least /home) 19:55 -!- Guest47_ [~textual@2409:40d1:4:417a:b5a5:4774:30e:f2b5] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:56 < ivdsangen> with that output i am wondering what /etc/group looks like, maybe it ended up invalid somehow? 19:56 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 20:00 -!- normanLLy [~norman@41.252.35.204.ADSL.ZS1.dynamic.ltt.ly] has joined #openbsd 20:01 -!- rptr [~rptr@user/rptr] has quit [Quit: improperly oriented keyboard] 20:02 < rIMpossible> ssm_: I have booted bsd.rd, my iwn0 device is up and connected. But there is no def gw. 20:03 < rIMpossible> If I set default gw to my router and exit back to the installer it does not find the gw aka the setup clears the routing table. 20:03 < ssm_> rIMpossible: route add default [your gateway] 20:03 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03 < ssm_> hmm 20:03 < rIMpossible> is there a hidden switch to prevent that? 20:03 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 20:04 < ssm_> could it be dhcpleased causing it? 20:05 < rIMpossible> ssm_: How can I list processes and maybe kill dhcpleased? 20:06 < ssm_> ps ax | grep dhcp 20:07 < rIMpossible> ps not available in ramdisk mode 20:07 < ssm_> huh, it's in /bin :/ 20:07 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07 < rIMpossible> nope, not in bsd.rd. there is reduced command set 20:08 < ssm_> can you just specify static routing? 20:08 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has joined #openbsd 20:08 < rIMpossible> I can add the gw manually and download the sets to the sdd, then point in the installer to it 20:08 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has joined #openbsd 20:09 -!- absc [absc@2a04:ee41:8:6055::101] has joined #openbsd 20:09 < rIMpossible> ssm_: The installer resets the routing table 20:09 < rIMpossible> ..flushes.. 20:10 -!- user71 [~user71@2001:1530:1002:c2b:8087:4946:b96c:3c84] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:10 < rIMpossible> I'll try the way, I imagined, or I need to find my usb sticks in the mover boxes :( 20:14 -!- oxzi [~oxzi@marohu.lurk.space] has quit [Quit: WeeChat] 20:16 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18 -!- ivdsangen [~ivo@83-84-59-127.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:18 -!- absc [absc@2a04:ee41:8:6055::101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 20:20 -!- sinvet [~sinvet@user/sinvet] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:21 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:21 -!- anthk_ [~anthk_@texto-plano.xyz] has joined #openbsd 20:22 -!- fan [~fan@user/fanbass] has joined #openbsd 20:23 -!- Feigr [~REDACTED@c-85-228-19-228.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:24 -!- Feigr [~REDACTED@c-85-228-19-228.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #openbsd 20:24 -!- johnjaye [~pi@syn-035-146-235-019.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:24 -!- oxzi [~oxzi@marohu.lurk.space] has joined #openbsd 20:25 -!- tcberner [~quassel@user/tcberner] has joined #openbsd 20:26 -!- Zeftax [~Zeftax@user/Zeftax] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26 < kodcode> after a succesful sysupgrade I ran 'pkg_add -u' and got quite a few error message about missing libraries. now, a lot of prorams won't even launch (firefox for example) 20:28 < Lucas_> send the errors you got ports@, don't try to run more commands blindly 20:28 < fan> kodcode: yes, It is tru 20:29 -!- mx08 [~mx08@user/mx08] has joined #openbsd 20:29 < fan> reinstall firefox 20:30 < zelest> kodcode, try pkg_add -uU 20:32 -!- CrashOverride [~strcat@p57b4b765.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:33 -!- normanLLy [~norman@41.252.35.204.ADSL.ZS1.dynamic.ltt.ly] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:36 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@atoulouse-257-1-58-108.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has joined #openbsd 20:38 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@156.59.50.245] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Server aborting 21:35 < zelest> looks serious 21:36 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@78-80-113-119.customers.tmcz.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36 -!- MrGoblins [~MrGoblins@78-80-113-119.customers.tmcz.cz] has joined #openbsd 21:37 -!- r3s0 [~oblomov@user/r3s0] has joined #openbsd 21:37 < anelli> ya. alr i'll restart now 21:37 < anelli> > is this with aperture = 2? 21:37 < anelli> not yet i'll test again with aperture on. brb 21:37 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 21:38 < Posterdati> eh 21:38 < zelest> I doubt aperture will solve much, since it segfaults 21:39 < Posterdati> could be an hardware problem 21:39 -!- deimosBSD [~deimos@user/realdeimos] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.4.2] 21:39 < Posterdati> he should try to remove cmos battery and reconfigure 21:41 -!- macabro [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has joined #openbsd 21:45 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:45 -!- Aedil [~adrian@ipbcc10313.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:54 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has joined #openbsd 21:54 < anelli> sorry was waiting for it to idle. it's working now somehow. lemme check the logs 21:56 < zelest> also, try fw_update.. should be up to date, but doesn't hurt 21:56 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 21:56 < anelli> zelest, Posterdati, here's the log after machdep.allowaperture=2 http://paste.debian.net/1372140/ 21:56 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57 -!- fan [~fan@user/fanbass] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:57 < anelli> /var/log/Xorg.0.log no errors 21:57 < anelli> zelest: sure lemme c 21:57 -!- deimosBSD [~deimos@user/realdeimos] has joined #openbsd 21:57 < anelli> yeah no updates 21:57 < anelli> do i keep the allowaperture? 21:57 < Posterdati> yes 21:57 < Posterdati> why not? 21:58 < Posterdati> did you allow the bios to update from os? 21:58 < Posterdati> I mean 21:58 < Posterdati> bios shoud leave config to kernel 21:58 < anelli> Posterdati: idk xf86(4) says "Note that this can cause some security problems" 21:58 < Posterdati> Plug and Play OS should be enabled from bios 21:59 -!- polarian [~polarian@znc.polarian.dev] has quit [Quit: Polarian has disappeared] 21:59 < anelli> hmmm i don't remember such an option lemme c. i think i disabled bios updates 22:00 -!- polarian [~polarian@znc.polarian.dev] has joined #openbsd 22:00 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 22:00 < anelli> brb 22:00 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 22:04 -!- polarian [~polarian@znc.polarian.dev] has quit [Client Quit] 22:04 -!- polarian [~polarian@znc.polarian.dev] has joined #openbsd 22:05 -!- nathanpc [~nathanpc@user/nathanpc] has joined #openbsd 22:06 < Posterdati> I hope he won't brick the box 22:09 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has joined #openbsd 22:13 -!- anelli [~anelli@user/macarona] has joined #openbsd 22:14 < anelli> back. i turned flash bion updating on 22:14 < anelli> turned aperture off and it still works 22:15 < Posterdati> anelli: not flash bios 22:15 < Posterdati> anelli: Plug and Play OS 22:16 < anelli> only options relating to bios were under "UEFI BIOS update Option" and named "Flash BIOS Updating" "Secure Rollback Prevention" "Windows UEFI firmawre update" ig it's not an option for this machine's bios? it's a t480 22:20 < anelli> but yeah thx a lot anyways. it's a bummer i couldn't catch that bug 22:20 < ssm_> is there a way to issue a reboot command to an openbsd install over serial so I don't have to do an unclean shutdown every time I lock myself out? 22:20 < Posterdati> ok 22:20 < ssm_> I tried holding the power button a few seconds but that doesn't seem to work for a normal shutdown 22:21 < Bradipo> Might be disabled in the BIOS or something? 22:21 < ssm_> this SoC doesn't have a traditional bios 22:21 < ssm_> don't think there's anything like that in the u-boot 22:21 < Bradipo> You have a shell over serial? 22:22 < ssm_> tty00 runs pppd, and I get locked out for whatever reason (still debugging) 22:22 < ssm_> so I can't get a console over serial because console is running pppd 22:23 < Bradipo> Oh. I guess I don't know how you would issue a reboot command if you don't have a terminal. 22:23 < Posterdati> ssm_: what is it? ARM based soc? 22:24 < ssm_> Posterdati: riscv64, FML13V01 22:24 < Posterdati> ok 22:24 < Posterdati> u-boot should allow a basic configuration 22:31 -!- emmanuelux [~emmanuelu@user/emmanuelux] has joined #openbsd 22:33 < oldlaptop> anelli: That machine should *not* require the aperture. 22:34 -!- adip [~adip@c145-14.icpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:34 < anelli> yea it seems something else caused a problem 22:34 < anelli> i just played some terraria lol. but it never caused issues with idling iirc 22:35 < Posterdati> are you sure is this machine working? 22:35 < oldlaptop> Very weird symptoms. 22:35 < Posterdati> did you check ram? 22:35 < Posterdati> run memtest 22:35 < oldlaptop> [ 56420.768] (EE) Segmentation fault at address 0x10 22:35 < oldlaptop> that address looks kind of suspicious 22:35 < Posterdati> and disable smp 22:36 < sonya> 11.441] (EE) AIGLX error: unable to load driver i965 11.523] (II) IGLX: Loaded and initialized swrast 11.414] (**) intel(0): TearFree enabled 22:37 < anelli> Posterdati: i'm chatting from it so it's working. i did a memtest with the lenovo uefi tools on all ram when i installed it and it was okay 22:38 < oldlaptop> Is there anything strange in the dmesg *after* the segfault? (Does that stuff at the end of the dmesg you pasted show up around the time of the segfault?) 22:38 < oldlaptop> I realize these questions can't necessarily be answered if it doesn't break again. 22:38 < anelli> i don't remember tbh i only ran dmesg post-mortem 22:39 < anelli> i> and disable smp 22:39 < oldlaptop> Would also be interesting to see what that pid is. 22:39 < anelli> how do i do that 22:39 < oldlaptop> There might be an option in the firmware menu, and you could boot bsd.sp. I don't see how either of those things is likely to help. 22:39 < sonya> sysctl hw.smp=0 22:39 < sonya> oh.. hw.smt=0 22:40 < sonya> smp - yes, load bsd.sp 22:40 < anelli> yea 22:40 < oldlaptop> (But why?) 22:40 < anelli> hmmmm idk 22:40 < anelli> > Would also be interesting to see what that pid is. 22:40 < anelli> which pid 22:40 < anelli> is it related to te 0x10? 22:40 < oldlaptop> drm:pid63477:intel_vblank_evade *ERROR* [drm] *ERROR* Potential atomic update failure on pipe A 22:41 < anelli> ohh 22:41 < oldlaptop> If my suspicion is correct, it's the X server process that segfaulted (and therefore already dead). 22:41 < oldlaptop> Note the other instance with a different pid a little earlier - you seem to have connected a USB mouse between the two, and disconnected it after the second. 22:42 < anelli> oh yeah i was using it a bit but disconnected it around like more than 2 hours later 22:42 < anelli> maybe it was bugging out? 22:43 -!- m0v_ [~m0v@103.208.204.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:43 < oldlaptop> It would be very strange for a USB mouse to cause X to crash, and especially strange for a USB mouse to do that by perturbing inteldrm. 22:43 -!- skippy8 [~skippy8@user/Skippy8] has left #openbsd [WeeChat 4.4.2] 22:43 < oldlaptop> But it's pretty strange for X to segfault like that in the first place. 22:43 < anelli> yeah never seen someth like that in 2 years lol 22:44 < oldlaptop> (In any case, that first message in dmesg occurred without the USB mouse connected.) 22:44 < oldlaptop> (I mention it mainly in the hope that it's a reference for you as to when the segfaults occurred, relative to this physical action you might remember.) 22:45 < sonya> btw.. i have the (almost) same right now: https://clbin.com/6MnhI .. all works and it started after some firmware upgrade in 7.6 .. 22:45 < anelli> oh weird 22:45 < anelli> maybe a regression? 22:46 < oldlaptop> I know I've seen "weird messages" from inteldrm (and amdgpu) before, without necessarily any other visible consequence. Reluctant to suggest a connection. 22:46 < sonya> and pid (90369) - is a 'working' X 22:47 < sonya> under _x11 22:48 * xse don't know enough to really be useful, i would check if xlock works by itself maybe, iirc xidle calls xlock 22:48 < anelli> dw a manual xlock always worked 22:48 < anelli> iirc 22:48 < anelli> it's the 5minute idle thing 22:48 -!- fflam [~mdt@2600:4040:1100:cc00::1c19] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49 < oldlaptop> xset's dpms and s options may be of interest 22:51 < anelli> i set it in Xdefaluts as XLock.dpmsoff: 5 if that's what you mean 22:51 -!- yraten [~quassel@2a05:4f46:701:d900:1b50:6600:1988:992f] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 22:52 -!- dk23 [~dk@2600:1012:a021:30f:e119:fdc3:1d52:98e4] has joined #openbsd 22:52 < anelli> and XIdle.delay: 5 22:52 < anelli> in .xsession xidle launches as `xidle -timeout 300 &' 22:52 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.185] has joined #openbsd 22:53 -!- zip100 [~zip100@185.213.155.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:54 -!- dk23 [~dk@2600:1012:a021:30f:e119:fdc3:1d52:98e4] has left #openbsd [] 22:55 < Bradipo> xidle is nice if you're running spartan, but I like to have "corners" that xautolock provides. 22:56 < anelli> ya i don't like to think too much about me setup i'll check it out tho 22:56 < Bradipo> Understood. Anytime base has what's necessary, I like to use it. 22:57 < Bradipo> I didn't learn about xidle until the last year though, so I haven't gotten out of the habit of using xautolock. 22:57 < sonya> anelli: do you have a custom/manual effective xorg.conf ? (man xorg.conf lists it's possible locations) 22:57 -!- EtherNet [~ethernet@user/ethernet] has joined #openbsd 22:58 < anelli> Bradipo: that's fair. i still find new cool toys in base lol. just found out there're's a SECOND calculator dc(1) lol 22:58 < anelli> sonya: oh yeah i should put it too 22:59 < Bradipo> anelli: Awesome dc(1). I've been using it for over 15 years now. 22:59 < Bradipo> I'm always disappointed on Linux which doesn't have it by default. 22:59 -!- mbuhl [~mbuhl@user/mbuhl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.47.195] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 23:00 < anelli> Bradipo: wow i should give i it a look xD 23:00 < Bradipo> Well, if you like reverse-polish (or stack style) calculator, you're set with dc(1). 23:01 -!- zippy [~quassel@188.27.47.195] has joined #openbsd 23:01 -!- mbuhl [~mbuhl@user/mbuhl] has joined #openbsd 23:03 < anelli> sonya: alright so i got an irrelavent keyboard thing 10-keyboards.conf http://paste.debian.net/1372146/ and a 20-intel.conf for tearfree http://paste.debian.net/1372147/ other than that idk if there's a way to diff /etc/X11 with the default but i remember changing xenodm/Xsetup_0 http://paste.debian.net/1372148/ 23:03 < oldlaptop> dc is the first calculator, not the second! 23:03 < anelli> the `${exec_prefix}/bin/xinput -float 7' was because my trackpad used to go crazy. i forgot what it does xD 23:03 < anelli> Bradipo: o cool 23:03 < anelli> oldlaptop: TIL :) 23:04 < oldlaptop> (in fact if it's not the very first unix program written in a high-level language, it's very close) 23:04 < oldlaptop> although openbsd dc is of course not that implementation 23:04 -!- Poltawer [~xt003@user/Poltawer] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.1] 23:05 -!- EtherNet [~ethernet@user/ethernet] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:06 < sonya> anelli: i'd suggest to revert things to the defaults and try "*Time" options (man xorg.conf) if you wish to adjust default monitor sleep/off timers.. also "tearfree" without (proper/required) 965_dri.so could be a bit 'resource hungry'.. us dvorak is o'k.. 23:07 < anelli> sonya: i get defaults from /usr/xenocara/app/xenodm/config right or is it from the fileset? 23:08 < sonya> just mv 20-intel.conf ~/backup/ 23:09 < anelli> o alr because i modified Xsetup_0 too 23:09 < sonya> and comment settings in Xdefaults/.xsession 23:09 < sonya> Xsetup is o'k.. 23:09 < anelli> alrighty 23:10 < sonya> but.. ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession should be equal (simlink or hardlink) 23:10 < anelli> no worri i don't have a .xinitrc 23:11 < sonya> o'k 23:11 -!- EtherNet [~ethernet@user/ethernet] has joined #openbsd 23:12 -!- m0v [~m0v@103.208.204.244] has joined #openbsd 23:12 -!- m0v [~m0v@103.208.204.244] has quit [Changing host] 23:12 -!- m0v [~m0v@user/m0v] has joined #openbsd 23:13 < anelli> i gotta keep xidle -timeout 300 & 23:13 < anelli> because without the -timeout flag it don't timeout 23:14 < anelli> but got rid of the other timeouts in Xdefaults. i'll look for alternatives in /etc/X11 23:14 < anelli> i don't fully understand it tho. is Xdefaults/xset buggy? 23:16 < sonya> anelli: you don't need xidle.. xorg.conf "*Time" options could do things the way you wish.. to set the reason of a 'bug' it's best to use only X/Xorg 23:16 < anelli> oh that's fair 23:16 < anelli> sonya: so it automatically runs xlock too? 23:17 < sonya> no.. 23:17 < anelli> oh rip 23:17 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@176-133-210-176.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: connection reset by purr] 23:18 < sonya> but if 'bug' is not appear when only X is in action - then it came from other part.. 23:18 < anelli> maybe 23:18 < anelli> this bug seems very rare tho lol 23:18 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:18 -!- hjckr [~nikolay@212-5-158-250.ip.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:18 -!- nikolay_ [~nikolay@212-39-89-23.ip.btc-net.bg] has joined #openbsd 23:19 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has joined #openbsd 23:19 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has joined #openbsd 23:19 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has quit [Client Quit] 23:19 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has joined #openbsd 23:21 < anelli> sonya, oldlaptop thx for looking into it tho 23:23 -!- hjckr [~nikolay@212-39-89-23.ip.btc-net.bg] has joined #openbsd 23:23 -!- _zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:24 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040::f61] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 23:24 -!- zip100 [~zip100@193.32.248.195] has joined #openbsd 23:24 -!- nikolay_ [~nikolay@212-39-89-23.ip.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:24 -!- znedw [~znedw@2400:a846:4040::f61] has joined #openbsd 23:25 -!- zimmer [~zimmer@user/zimmer] has joined #openbsd 23:27 -!- LainIwakura [~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:28 -!- sonya [~nologin@gateway/tor-sasl/sonya] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32 -!- chilledfrogs [~chilledfr@rsa59-h05-176-133-210-176.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #openbsd 23:35 -!- roaccess [~roaccess@user/roaccess] has joined #openbsd 23:40 -!- yclept [~yclept@user/yclept] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54 -!- byteskeptical [~amnesia@user/byteskeptical] has joined #openbsd 23:57 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58 < mischief> finally got around to doing some kind of backups for my firewall, dump | ssh seems like a decently simple solution 23:58 < Bradipo> That's what I use. 23:59 < mischief> are you using levels? 23:59 < Bradipo> Not currently. 23:59 < mischief> i put this in crontab and called it a day 23:59 < Bradipo> I've thought about it, but it's more work to setup. 23:59 < mischief> ~ 5 * * 6 dump -b64 -0auf - / | ssh -t fugu@192.168.0.10 "pv -o /srv/backups/fugu/slash-$(date +%Y%m$d).dump0" 23:59 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 23:59 < Bradipo> Are you going to gzip it? 23:59 -!- rnsanchez [~rnsanchez@2804:14d:2c92:5331:a703:df6a:97d1:30d4] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] --- Log closed Tue Apr 29 00:00:02 2025