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00:26 < farhan> Not sure if my earlier message went through due to not being signed in - does OpenBSD's VM allow for USB pass-through?
00:31 < brynet> no device passthrough.
00:32 < farhan> Darn...
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01:35 < johnjaye> does pf work on all the bsd?
01:38 < byteskeptical> sometimes slighly different versions but yes
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01:45 < phy1729> Fairly different versions. Pf questions for other BSDs aren't topical here.
01:48 < BasketCase> every time I see pfsense I cry that it isn't OpenBSD
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01:55 < quinq> Gotta have that XML output from ls(1)
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02:12 < mischief> i keep thinking about trying to write something like pfsense but then i think 'nah no openbsd user will care'
02:13 < BasketCase> quinq: should I be throwing a party to celebrate not getting that reference?
02:13 < BasketCase> mischief: the OpenBSD fan who works for a company that sells pfsense firewalls as a service would love it
02:14 < dlg> mischief: i have openbsd boxes at frenz and family that id like to give a status page to at least
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02:21 < mischief> maybe this weekend ill take a look.. might be time to revive luajit or take another look at kcgi
02:22 < mischief> (revive *my* luajit skills, that is)
02:25 < dlg> vanilla lua would be fine...
02:26 < mischief> for the ffi, which i recall tedu had used fairly successfully for some web stuff. though you are right, can always do without
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02:28 < byteskeptical> kcgi is nice
02:28 < quinq> BasketCase, libxo
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02:33 < BasketCase> I probably didn't need to know that
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07:58 < Posterdati> hi
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07:59 < Posterdati> seems that xfce4 screensavers on 7.7 are non functional, random freeze for Xorg
08:04 < Posterdati> May  2 08:53:28 XXXXX xfce4-screensaver: vfprintf %s NULL in "%s %s"
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17:05 < fan> hello All
17:05 < fan> tell me please
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17:06 < fan> i want to off driver ulpt
17:06 < fan> # echo 'disable ulpt' >>/etc/bsd.re-config
17:06 < fan> # reboot
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17:07 < fan> it do not stop
17:08 < mischief> what makes you think that is something that should work on openbsd
17:08 < rIMpossible> fan: did you try to enter the kernel debugger from boot prompt and disable for the current boot?
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17:08 < fan> $ usbdevs -v
17:08 < fan> addr 04: 03f0:e211 HP, DeskJet 4720 series
17:08 < fan>    high speed, self powered, config 1, rev 1.00, iSerial CN8556H2180684
17:08 < fan>    driver: ulpt0
17:09 < fan>    driver: ugen0
17:09 < fan> ulpt0
17:10 < fan> mischief: https://openports.pl/path/print/cups
17:11 < mischief> huh. neat, didn't know about bsd.re-config(5)
17:12 < fan> rIMpossible: 
17:12 < fan> ulpt(4) needs to be disabled in the kernel (see bsd.re-config(5)) or the printer
17:12 < fan> will not be available to libusb
17:12 < vortexx> fan: I think you need to run /usr/libexec/reorder_kernel before reboot
17:13 < Bradipo> mischief: Yeah, I use bsd.rd-config to disable the touchpad on my laptop---I cannot stand the things.
17:14 < Bradipo> fan: You have to reboot twice.
17:14 < Bradipo> Or do what vortexx said about rebuilding *before* rebooting.
17:15 < rIMpossible> fan: I meant, to quick check, if it is really disabled, you 'boot -c' and 'disable ulpt' and then 'exit' to boot the config.
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17:23 < sonya> Bradipo: echo 'mouse.tp.disable=1  # disable touchpad' >> /etc/wsconsctl.conf
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17:29 < Bradipo> There is no documentation for that, at least not that I could find.
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17:30 < Bradipo> Indeed: wsconsctl -a doesn't even include mouse.tp in it.
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17:32 < avemestr> I typically disable trackpad in BIOS.
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17:48 < jmcunx> On my thinkpad I have "mouse.tp.disable=1" in /etc/wsconsctl.conf to disable the trackpad
17:49 < jmcunx> maybe supported only for "mouse.type=synaptics
17:49 < jmcunx> mouse.rawmode=0
17:49 < jmcunx> mouse.rawmode=0 paste error :)
17:49 < sonya> Bradipo: man (4) wsmouse.. and if you're running 'reconfigured' kernel with disabled tp - then there'll be no mouse.tp.disable in wsconsctl -a.. and, for example, if windows in dualboot disables tp - then it could left 'disabled' when obsd starts.. several reboots could restore the state, but i didn't dig into to deep.. and xinput (get-feedbacks) allow to identify who is who in running system..
17:52 < Bradipo> Ok I'll see if enabling pms again brings back mouse.tp.disable.  I remember looking at this before and thought that I had tried mouse.tp.disable and it didn't work, but I could be wrong.
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17:54 < sonya> jmcunx: "mouse.type=touchpad" here.. wsconsctl -a -- https://termbin.com/h3tp  - here's smth like..
17:55 < jmcunx> sonya: Interesting, I have a W541, what is your model ?
17:56 < Bradipo> After enabling pms, I have a working mousepad, but there is no mouse.tp
17:56 < Bradipo> I have mouse.type=ps2
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17:57 < sonya> jmcunx: not synaptic, but can't say exact model .. let me look dmesg one more time..
17:58 < jmcunx> no worries, just curious, I thought thinkpads all had synaptic
17:59 < Bradipo> Well, this isn't a "thinkpad".
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18:00 < sonya> jmcunx: i'm afraid that exact tp model only visible in windows.. sorry.. and yes, my book is not a thinkpad.. 
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18:06  * rIMpossible found /usr/include/dev/wscons/wsconsio.h
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18:26 < seninha> Speaking of trackpoints, can i disable the scroll emulation (hold middle button and move pointer) on USB mouse, but keep it enable on trackpoint (so i can scroll with it)?
18:27 < seninha> Context: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=172565557217467&w=2
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18:30 < seninha> (meh, the topic was trackpads...)
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18:56 < sonya> seninha: to do so, esp if you're using xinput set-prop, you need different id's for xinput (list)..
18:56 < sonya> your 'xinput' is a bit strange..
18:58 < seninha> sonya, how so?
18:58 < seninha> xinput set-prop is the only way i know to set it
18:58 < sonya> here's 1 tp, 1 usb-mouse and this: https://termbin.com/hcst  .. xinput (test) here shows that id=8 (/dev/wsmouse1) is dumb device (no response)
18:59 < sonya> yes.. i'm thinkiing why you have no separate id's ..
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19:09 < sonya> seninha: did you try to :   for a in `ls /dev/wsmouse*` ; do echo "$a" ; timeout  -f 10 xinput test "$a" ; done
19:10 < sonya> i mean test all /dev/wsmouse* in case there's a way that usb-mouse is a separate id/dev from trackpad?
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19:17 < aaronm04> so is got supposed to be like a modernized cvs drop-in for openbsd dev use?
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19:18 < fro> what do you think it is?
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19:20 < Lucas_> aaronm04: no
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19:39 < ssm_> aaronm04: not a drop-in replacement, though it may serve as a replacement eventually. personally I'd prefer opencvs were finished, but I'm not going to pretend I know how to fix it
19:40 < aaronm04> fro: that. What I asked :)
19:40 < ssm_> it shares a few paradigms with cvs, and with mercurial 
19:40 < aaronm04> ok so it's something similar but also different :)
19:40 < aaronm04> in UI as well as under the hood
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19:40 < ssm_> I use it for all my projects, though I've been thinking of switching to cvs instead
19:41 < ssm_> maybe I'll try opencvs (with backups)
19:41 < Bradipo> Well, if you read the gameoftrees.org site it tells you that got is just some fancy wrapping on git (at least that's what I gather from it).
19:41 < Bradipo> ssm_: If you're in the market for something different, may I plug Fossil? :-)
19:42 < Bradipo> Fossil does have some rooted history with CVS.
19:42 < Bradipo> Among other things.
19:42 < ssm_> Among us
19:43 < ssm_> sorry, it's a involuntary reaction. I could just use rcs by itself and produce tarballs for distribution, because I know no one is ever going to work on my projects with me lol
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19:45 < seninha> sonya, /dev/wsmouse is both trackpoint and USB mouse, /dev/wsmouse0 is the touchpad
19:45 < Bradipo> Sure, RCS still works.
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20:02 < oldlaptop> Bradipo: Not "wrapping" - it's an independent implementation.
20:02 < oldlaptop> not a "porcelain" in git language
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20:28 < Bradipo> I see, I misunderstood this: "Got uses Git repositories to store versioned data."
20:28 < Bradipo> So it's a different implementation of Git that's supposed to be compatible.  Got it.
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20:34 < sonya> seninha: can i take a look at you 'dmesg' (and 'dmassage -t' if installed)?
20:35 < fan> Bradipo: <Bradipo> fan: You have to reboot twice.
20:36 < fan> reboot twice is not working
20:36 < fan> # config -ef /bsd
20:36 < fan> ukc> disable ulpt
20:37 < Bradipo> Does that work?
20:37 < Bradipo> At the boot> prompt, type "boot -c"
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20:37 < Bradipo> Then at the UKC prompt type: disable ulpt
20:37 < Bradipo> Then exit UKC and let it boot.  Does that disable it?
20:38 < fan>  /etc/bsd.re-config with disable ulpt
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20:39 < fan> Bradipo: <Bradipo> Then exit UKC and let it boot.  Does that disable it?
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20:39 < fan> yes
20:40 < fan> once reboot
20:40 < fan> reboot twice no
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20:41 < fan> why
20:41 < fan> ?
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20:41 < fan>  /etc/bsd.re-config with disable ulpt
20:41 < sibiria> runtime kernel config (boot -c) is not permanent
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20:43 < fan> sibiria: for permanent twice reboot
20:43 < fan> or no&
20:43 < fan> it is bag?
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20:46 < Bradipo> After you edit /etc/bsd.re-config, the next time your kernel is rebuilt it should retain it indefinitely.
20:46 < Bradipo> So perhaps your kernel isn't being rebuilt...
20:46 < Bradipo> What's the timestamp on /bsd ?
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20:51 < sibiria> fan: you can use config(8) if you want to make changes permanent
20:53 < sibiria> e.g.:  config -f /bsd
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20:53 < sibiria> if you're not sure what you're doing, make a copy of the vanilla kernel first
20:54 < fan> sibiria: <sibiria> e.g.:  config -f /bsd
20:54 < fan> yes. I made it so
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20:56 < fan> but /etc/bsd.re-config with disable ulpt?
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20:56 < Bradipo> sibiria: If you use config to "make changes permanent" won't that break with reorder_kernel
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20:59 < sibiria> Bradipo: yes, unfortunately
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21:00 < sibiria> using bsd.re-config is the correct way, but since his or her kernel won't relink...
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21:13 < farhan> *may* have identified an unnecessary bit or code and something that could be done better in the athn driver.
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21:13 < farhan> Will shoot out an email, perhaps tonight.
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