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03:35 < lts> Just in case someone is using screen instead of tmux, the project doesn't seem to be doing very well (ref. part 6) https://security.opensuse.org/2025/05/12/screen-security-issues.html
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03:50 < thrig> this isn't exactly news
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06:52 < anthk_> mischief: I just used transitive groups
06:52 < anthk_> a new slashem group belonging to games
06:53 < anthk_> corporate will just use yp, yes
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17:40 < rewtkid> hi. after running syspatch, i get this in relink.log: https://up.syn.rip/f/7xlt2/relink.log.txt
17:40 < rewtkid> any idea on how i can go about troubleshooting this? 
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17:42 < zelest> not much to troubleshoot I guess? you ran out of memory and the linker failed.
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17:43 < rewtkid> right, but it does it every time, and it wasnt happening before. i also have 24gb of memory on this machine.
17:43 < zelest> o_O
17:43 < zelest> that does indeed sound weird
17:45 < sibiria> what does your login.conf say?
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17:45 < sibiria> try bumping the datasize-max/cur for "build"
17:46 < pardis> build shouldn't be relevant here
17:46 < Guest81> Just installed OpenBSD plan on using it as a desktop os and I just have a few questions: 1. Difference between csh, sh and what seems to be the default ksh. Coming from Linux I have used bash and  before and maybe zsh on MacOS but I don't really know what changes except for the prompt, and also  had auto complete which was nice 2. I read man mail
17:46 < pardis> in fact, I'm not sure if login.conf will be relevant at all since there is no login involved
17:46 < Guest81> maybe a bit too fast but I am wondering, how can I see past messages I think a flag I tried maybe it was -r would work but it didn't and mail command immediately exits since there is no other mail 3. Currently apart from that I did $ su and the # pkg_add -v gnome, is this the correct way to install gnome it's just running right now typing this from
17:46 < Guest81> a different device. (Ok it finished running and I rebooted and signed in to my user but startx didn't work gonna search up the equivalent for wayland and try that 4. What browser do you guys use if you use OpenBSD as a desktop I saw the packages for firefox, chromium, ungoogled-chromium and Epiphany (Gnome Web)
17:48 < rewtkid> pardis: also what i thought, but incase it matters build has: datasize-max=1843M and datasize-cur=1843M
17:49 < rewtkid> i dont recall modifying this section, so i think it might be the default.
17:49 < pardis> I would modify /usr/share/relink/kernel/GENERIC*/Makefile to do 'ulimit -a && ...' for the failing step
17:49 < pardis> that way you'll get confirmation in the log of what the actual limits are
17:50 < zelest> Guest81, Regarding X/Wayland, xenocara (zorg) is the way to go for desktop on OpenBSD.. also, check /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/gnome
17:50 < zelest> Guest81, Also checkout afterboot(8) and the FAQ on the website
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17:51 < rewtkid> pardis: will do in a moment.
17:51 < zelest> Guest81, Also, be sure that your hardware is supported. If you're on nvidia, tough luck.
17:52 < Guest81> I did man afterboot and read the mail from Theo de Raadt
17:52 < Guest81> also I checked that path, the file doesn't exist is there a way to check if the pkg gnome is installed (it didn't seem to error before I rebooted)
17:52 < Bradipo> Guest81: I use Firefox.  Occasionally Chromium when sites are stupid.
17:52 < Guest81> I'm on an amd apu (4300U)
17:52 < jmcunx> Guest81 sh and ksh on OpenBSD is the same.  FWIW, I think ksh is much better than bash
17:52 < Bradipo> pkg_info | grep gnome
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17:52 < Bradipo> I too have abandoned bash in favor of ksh, thanks mostly to OpenBSD.
17:53  * zelest uses firefox too.. and chromium when needed.
17:53  * sibiria firefox, and ungoogled-chromium if something needs "chrome"
17:54 < zelest> screen sharing for example :D
17:54 < Guest81> 3 lines were returned gnome-desktop-common-44, gnome-menus and gnome-user-docs. Are these 3 installed packages that I can do man (name)?
17:55 < zelest> As I said, check /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/gnome
17:55 < Bradipo> There aren't typicall man pages for package names.
17:55 < Guest81> the file doesn't exist
17:56 < Guest81> I ls'd it and it only has the following entries: avahi consolekit2 dbus ffmpeg glib2 gnupg libinotify samba sdl2 upower
17:56 < Guest81> Assuming those are all part of the default install
17:56 < zelest> and it's installed?
17:56 < zelest> gnome that is
17:56 < Guest81> I believe so
17:56 < Bradipo> I don't think gnome is.
17:56 < zelest> run 'pkg_add gnome' again
17:56 < sibiria> those are not part of openbsd's default install. no packages are
17:56 < zelest> nothing under /usr/local is default
17:57 < Guest81> is doas the same as sudo, i did doas pkg_add -v gnome and it says doas is not enabled and /etc/doas.conf doesn't exist
17:57 < Guest81> just gonna do su and then run the command
17:57 < zelest> yeah, doas is the "replacement" for sudo
17:57 < zelest> but before it's confused, you have to su
17:58 < zelest> confused? configured*
17:58 < Bradipo> OpenBSD isn't like Linux.  It doesn't have everything enabled by default.
17:58 < Bradipo> If you want doas, you'll have to configure it.
17:58 < Bradipo> The default mechanism with OpenBSD is just su(1).
17:59 < sibiria> as the Lord intended
17:59 < Guest81> thank you
17:59 < zelest> Bradipo, Give VoidLinux a go.. you don't even have a log daemon enabled by default.. and way less stuff than what comes with OpenBSD :P
18:00 < Guest81> in cases where dependencies are ambiguous how do I know which to pick? (ghostscript vs ghostscript gtk edition in this case same version number)
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18:00 < rewtkid> will disconnect while said machine is down, back soon.
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18:00 < zelest> Guest81, those are called "flavors" in OpenBSD and it's mostly about well, your preferred flavor :)
18:00 < pardis> it's usually easiest to just pick the first one in the list if you don't know that you need a different one
18:02 < Guest81> I think i picked the gtk one last time so this time i will try what i presume is the cli version its also first in the list (0)
18:02 < Bradipo> zelest: I've largely abandoned Linux for now. :-)
18:02 < Bradipo> Guest81: You pick what you like.
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18:03 < zelest> Bradipo, I don't blame you :)
18:03 < Bradipo> For ghostscript I avoid gtk.
18:03 < Guest81> Hopefully that's gonna be me I've been using linux for a bit less than a year
18:03 < Guest81> Trying openbsd today checked it has all the packages i want
18:04 < Bradipo> Well, OpenBSD will definitely be different from Linux.
18:04 < Bradipo> In some ways better, but in other ways more challenging.
18:04 < Bradipo> Especially if you plan to use it as a desktop.
18:04 < Bradipo> But it can be done (I use it as my daily driver).
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18:05 < Guest81> I'm up for a challenge and from what I can tell it will hopefully be able to do everything I want it too
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18:13 < rewtkid> hi, sorry about that. i2p issues. so pardis, heres the new output from relink.log: https://up.syn.rip/f/xkxjk/relink.log.txt. do these limits look sane to you?
18:14 < rewtkid> i dont see why it would be "out of memory", it says 20gb is the limit, unless i am misunderstanding something here.
18:14 < Bradipo> data(kbytes) looks a little low to me.
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18:15 < Bradipo> What arch is this?
18:15 < sibiria> fds looks a bit low at 64. should be 128
18:16 < rewtkid> amd64
18:16 < sibiria> all those limits look a bit low for the default login class
18:17 < rewtkid> ok. and since these limits arent affected by login.conf (i think), should i just add a ulimit command before the failing line in the makefile to raise them?
18:17 < sibiria> did that install by any chance originate from something old?
18:17 < sibiria> like 6.5 or whatever
18:18 < sibiria> getting the impression of an ancient login.conf
18:18 < rewtkid> i also dont think they are representive of my default limits, let me send what those actually are: https://up.syn.rip/f/gtdi3/default.txt
18:18 < rewtkid> the install started on 7.6, upgraded to 7.7, though the issue didnt start until some days later, when i ran syspatch again.
18:19 < Lucas_> can you modify the Makefile the same way, but including a `id -c` before ulimit? it shows the class of the current user
18:19 < rewtkid> will do. 
18:19 < Lucas_> if that was being ran as root, its class is daemon, but the values don't match the default values for daemon
18:20 < Lucas_> rewtkid: actually, run both `id` and `id -c`
18:20 < Lucas_> so we also get the user information
18:21 < sibiria> i think you'll be fine if you just bump openfiles on that class from 64 to 128 or 256
18:21 < rewtkid> gotcha. will have to reboot again, so brb.
18:21 < sibiria> stack looks a bit low, too
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18:21 < sibiria> at a mere 2mb
18:21 < jmcunx> Guest81: you may find this interisting, a bit old but still worthwile.  I used this when I started with OpenBSD.  http://eradman.com/posts/openbsd-workstation.html
18:22 < Lucas_> data looks damn low
18:22 < Lucas_> 128M
18:22 < Lucas_> memory isn't used
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18:22 < Lucas_> daemon class should have 4GB, and default class 1.5GB
18:23 < Lucas_> in fact, there is no single file that sets data to 128M
18:23 < Lucas_> we should have asked for /etc/login.conf instead
18:23 < Lucas_> :(
18:26 < sibiria> we've done what we could. he's in god's hands now
18:27 < Lucas_> RIP rewtkid
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18:34 < rewtkid> hi guys, looks like you were right. thanks for your guidance. just had to change the fds limit for daemon class
18:35 < Lucas_> rewtkid: can you show us your /etc/login.conf?
18:35 < Lucas_> something doesn't look correct about your values
18:36 < rewtkid> https://up.syn.rip/f/rlh84/login.conf.txt
18:37 < rewtkid> let me know if i have something wrong in there. i just reset daemon to its default, before it had the same values that default currently has.
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18:39 < rewtkid> and im aware my openfiles limits might be way to huge. prosody kept complaining about file limits before, so i raged and set it to some insane value i guess out of laziness.
18:39 < rewtkid> which is probably why the relink error occured, since before now "daemon" had the same limits as "default"
18:39 < rewtkid> now it all works properly after setting it back to default values.
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18:41 < Lucas_> your memory value is also huge
18:41 < Lucas_> datasize, I mean
18:41 < Lucas_> also, what's the size of your Prosody instance?
18:42 < Lucas_> I'm the port maintainer. It never complained to me, but my instance is very small.
18:42 < Lucas_> I heavily suggest letting all the classes values to their default
18:42 < rewtkid> i dont keep any user related logs, so no idea how many users there are, but i would say less than 50 people connected at any given time.
18:42 < Lucas_> and if you need to tweak it, tweak only for _prosody class
18:43 < Lucas_> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/etc/etc.amd64/login.conf?rev=1.26&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup is the default
18:43 < rewtkid> Lucas_: yes, i learned that now. will take your advice and reset everything to what it was before.
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18:43 < Lucas_> also, I believe you need to create a file in /etc/login.conf.d to have a custom limit for a daemon
18:44 < Lucas_> except if you actually made the _prosody user have a _prosody login class
18:44 < Bradipo> Or if you start the daemon with su -c _prosody, right?
18:45 < rewtkid> yes, i have a custom init script to start it this way. but thank you for informing me about the login.conf.d thing, i will keep it in mind.
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18:46 < Bradipo> I've never bothered with login.conf.d, but then I probably don't have a need for it.
18:46 < rewtkid> also su -c is for running a command: 
18:46 < rewtkid> 12:46 root@anarchy:~# su -s /bin/sh _prosody -c "id -c"  
18:46 < rewtkid> _prosody
18:47 < Bradipo> Is it?
18:47 < rewtkid> oh, nevermind.
18:47 < Bradipo> https://man.openbsd.org/su#c
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18:47 < rewtkid> looks like im thinking of some other su implementation.
18:47 < mo8> Enabling gnome extensions crashes gnome and makes me log out and sign back in
18:47 < Bradipo> What you've shown there is sh -c, not su -c. :-)
18:49 < Bradipo> But I still don't know why one would prefer to use /etc/login.conf.d over just adding entries to /etc/login.conf.
18:50 < Bradipo> Maybe I can see it in use when there is a distributed login.conf and a local admin wants to override the /etc/login.conf that is distributed?
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19:01 < rewtkid> also, i found a daemon_class variable. pretty sure i can just use this in my prosody script instead of "
19:01 < rewtkid> "su -c"
19:02 < rewtkid> (referring to the prosody init script)
19:03 < pardis> you can't, according to the documentation in rc.subr(8)
19:03 < pardis> but you also don't need to use su -c
19:05 < rewtkid> i see.
19:05 < Lucas_> you need to create /etc/login.conf.d/prosody
19:06 < Lucas_> or define a prosody class
19:06 < Lucas_> not _prosody
19:07 < Lucas_> login.conf(5) and rc.d(8)
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19:10 < rewtkid> IIRC, i created a "_prosody" login class, and added the user to it. when i run id -c as _prosody user it gives 
19:10 < rewtkid> "_prosody"
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19:13 < sibiria> do you really need that? i don't
19:13 < sibiria> package installer creates the user and group itself
19:14 < rewtkid> well, other users and i couldnt connect to other servers with the error "Too many open files", when i did this, the error went away. so i guess it did something. lol
19:14 < sibiria> it changed a few too tight limits that prosody was running under
19:14 < rewtkid> yup
19:15 < sibiria> the right way is to install prosody as-is and bump the limits themselves
19:15 < sibiria> don't place users in the prosody group. not needed
19:15 < sibiria> it's for prosody alone
19:15 < rewtkid> sorry, maybe some misunderstanding, i didnt add any other users to the prosody group. just added _prosody user to the _prosody login class, with `usermod -L`
19:16 < rewtkid> after i edited login.conf and added the _prosody section, as seen in my login.conf earlier
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19:16 < sibiria> alright, that's a valid case, sure, if prosody runs into limitations
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19:18 < echelon> my system froze up after doing an upgrade
19:19 < echelon> sysupgrade*
19:19 < echelon> it just got done installing the sets, then: Making all device nodes... done.
19:19 < echelon> stuck after that
19:19 < echelon> hitting enter does nothing, should cursor be blinking?
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19:21 < pardis> rewtkid: the login class the user belongs to is irrelevant unless you are doing funky things in your rc script
19:21 < pardis> rc.subr does not do a login as the user, it just looks for a login class named like the rc script
19:21 < pardis> if your script is named prosody and your login class is named _prosody, it won't use it
19:22 < Bradipo> I thought rc.subr did use su -c to "login" as the user...
19:22 < pardis> yes, I suppose so
19:22 < pardis> but it doesn't do a "normal" login that uses the class set in master.passwd is what I mean
19:22 < Bradipo> Ahh, right different meaning of "login".
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19:25 < echelon> ok, i did a hard reboot after it hung after device nodes were populating
19:25 < Bradipo> Is it a slow disk?
19:25 < echelon> now i have UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY on /dev/sd1a
19:25 < echelon> it's an ssd
19:26 < echelon> cannot read: BLK 128
19:26 < sibiria> a cheap one with super-slow flash memory, that got stuck shoveling data from internal RAM to storage, causing controller to seemingly freeze
19:26 < sibiria> nothing to do but wait
19:26 < rewtkid> pardis: makes much more sense now. and yes i sort of realized the first part after the error kept persisting, which is why prosody starts with su now. but honestly, i think all the issues i was facing has to do with me messing up my login.conf, so took another users advice and reset everything to the default. will try to start prosody with the normal init script later and see if the file limit
19:26 < rewtkid> error persists.
19:27 < echelon> well what do i do about the can't read blk 128 error on fsck_ffs /dev/sd1a?
19:27 < Bradipo> Is it also crypto raid?
19:27 < echelon> also, /dev/rsd1a: CANNOT READ DISKLABEL
19:27 < echelon> yes
19:28 < sibiria> repent. pray. and if that fails, sacrifice
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19:30 < Bradipo> Hopefully nothing critical on it.
19:30 < zelest> Interesting... the network on my machine started failing randomly.. ~60% packetloss from nowhere :o
19:31 < Bradipo> Where is nowhere and how to packets get to your machine from it?
19:32 < zelest> No clue how it handled incoming.. but outgoing :) to anywhere :P
19:32 < zelest> Nothing in logs, ran debug on both iwm0 and trunk0 .. nothing.
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19:33 < Bradipo> iwm0... someone running a microwave nearby?
19:33 < zelest> I could get a new lease without a problem, but tcp and icmp was dead after a while.. so I rebooted
19:34 < sibiria> sounds just like intel wifi to me :p
19:34 < zelest> Never had issues before
19:34 < zelest> Oh well
19:34 < sibiria> only wifi brand in my experience that has been 100% stable no matter what is Ralink (these days owned by MediaTek)
19:35 < zelest> Did a benchmark now.. can easily push 160Mbit/s :)
19:36 < echelon> looks like my home partition is still good, how do i make sure if i do a reinstall that my home dir won't get wiped?
19:36 < sibiria> echelon: reuse the disk label, but *don't* name the mount point. just leave it as is
19:36 < sibiria> the installer will "newfs" all the labels you give a name to
19:37 < sibiria> and if you feel uneasy about it, dump/tar it before you install
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20:01 < mo8> OpenBSD 7.7 fresh install all I did was install gnome and firefox and was watching youtube in firefox when I accidentally disconnected my ethernet cable and then I reconnected it and then it kept buffering and all of a sudden it restarted. Now upon decrypting my install: THE FOLLOWING FILE SYSTEM HAD AN UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: ffs: hexcode . L
20:01 < mo8> (/home) Automatic file system check failed; help! RETURN for sh: openbased# (why am I super user I didn't sign in just decrypt my drive though I do have auto sign in enabled in gnome for my user "mo" but not root) anyways in the background i was running another pkg_add adding multiple packages (ungoogled-chromium anki keepassxc qbittorrent calibre
20:01 < mo8> multimc firefox (added firefox again even though it's already installed) and it seems i forgot to add mpv. Anyways what do I do now that I am in a shell, I'm assuming since gnome didn't start something messed up happened (going to read the man pages for gnome and then try the command that starts a gnome session while I wait for a response here)
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20:02 < mo8> man not found help not found since I'm in shell i'm going to look for ksh and then try read the gnome man pages
20:02 < rewtkid> mo8: you need to run fsck_ffs on your home partition.
20:03 < mo8> would that be fsck_ffs /home ? or the hexcode
20:04 < mo8> neither worked neither did hexcode.L
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20:05 < mo8> I found the binary for rksh (which I am assuming is ksh) and that also doesn't have the help command or man command
20:05 < Bradipo> man ksh
20:05 < Bradipo> Search for rksh in that man page.
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20:06 < rewtkid> usally i have to use the path to the block device, for example, if your disk is "sd2", fsck_ffs /dev/sd2l
20:06 < rewtkid> mo8: ^
20:06 < rewtkid> usually*
20:06 < mo8> I don't have access to man command btw
20:07 < rewtkid> if you to figure out which drive/partition is which, you can use dmesg and disklabel
20:07 < rewtkid> mo8: man pages are also available at man.openbsd.org.
20:07 < mo8> i ran disklabel sd0 it says 16 partitions but it only shows a c i should I do fsck_ffs /dev/sd0l also what does it mean /dev/rsd0c what does the r mean and Im assuming the c is a partition
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20:09 < rewtkid> maybe explaining this poorly, but in simple terms the "c" partition represents the entire drive, if you have more than one drive, sd0 might not be the right one. should have an "l" partition
20:10 < rewtkid> try something like "dmesg | grep sd", it will show all the attached drives
20:10 < rewtkid> or `sysctl hw.disknames` might be of use 
20:11 < mo8> grep not found ;-;
20:12 < mo8> I only have sd0 and sd1
20:12 < rewtkid> can you try sysctl hw.disknames and see which drive matches your "hexcode"?
20:12 < rewtkid> try disklabel sd1.
20:12 < mo8> sd1 matches the hex code
20:12 < rewtkid> ok, so do fsck_ffs /dev/sd1l
20:13 < mo8> nice that shows a-L all 16 partitions
20:13 < mo8> the default option is [Fyn?] which one means yes correct the block count
20:14 < rewtkid> y means yes, iirc, F means yes for all, or something similar.
20:14 < rewtkid> so just do F
20:14 < mo8> ok it finished running I'm just going to exit the sh and hope it finishes booting
20:15 < rewtkid> as long as it didnt report issues with other partitions, i think it should.
20:15 < mo8> In the future will disconnecting and reconnecting the ethernet cable while pkg_add is running crash? Also how do I add wifi support I don't remember the exact wifi card I have but it is one that supports Hackintosh Broadcom BCM numbers NG
20:16 < rewtkid> i have no idea, honestly that sounds like a bug and ive never encountered that issue. if your wifi card is supported, fw_update should automatically install the proper firmware for it.
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20:17 < rewtkid> and by the way, should read the man pages for these kinds of things too, since repairing your filesystem is likely to be a semi-common occurence on openbsd.
20:17 < rewtkid> it doesnt have a "self healing" filesystem like ext4 or something, so when you cut power to your machine suddenly, or there is some crash, often you'll have to repair the filesystem with fsck.
20:17 < mo8> so man fsck or is there multiple
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20:18 < rewtkid> man fsck_ffs is the relevant one, unless you use other filesystems besides FFS.
20:18 < mo8> and which man page(s) are of interest if I want to learn about how my drive is encrypted
20:20 < mo8> i am new to OpenBSD I picked mostly default options I don't know which filesystem I have I picked auto select partitions for that section since I want to use the whole drive and overwrite the previous operating systems (didn't back up my back up my files so now I am also doing data recovery on a USB at the same time lol since I accidentally
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20:20 < mo8> overwrote it with some OpenBSD stuff)
20:20 < Bradipo> mo8: I assume you have internet or you wouldn't be using IRC: https://man.openbsd.org/ksh#r
20:21 < rewtkid> faq14 goes over the process of encrypting a disk. encryption is handled by the softraid subsystem, you should see the bioctl manpage aswell.
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20:22 < mo8> You're correct my apologies I saw the link showing manpages are online too not just on OpenBSD installs
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20:24 < mo8> What is the equivalent for man pages of packages I'm installing, currently I have to make an option for an ambiguous package (keepassxc) and I'm not sure which one I should pick (specifically what the browser option does, I know I'm not interested in the two yubikey options since I don't have one of those)
20:25 < quinq> $ man keepassxc
20:26 < mo8> no entry i searched on the web version too not just my shell, do i have to write the version number
20:26 < mo8> version number didn't work either
20:26 < rewtkid> quinq: probably means how he can get the differences between different options for a package. and i couldnt tell you. but what i could tell you is that i use the one without the browser or yubikey options.
20:27 < quinq> If the software doesn't provide documentation, then there's no documentation
20:27 < rewtkid> and its probably the one you want.
20:27 < quinq> Ahhh
20:28 < mo8> Sorry for wording it badly and thanks I just went with the non browser version
20:28 < quinq> Sorry, I didn't understand, but not sure if it has to do with man-pages
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20:28 < quinq> It's a good question though
20:29 < quinq> I'm not sure there's a way to know what are the differences, besides reading the Makefile
20:29 < rewtkid> if someone has an answer to his question i would also like to know. crossed my mind before but never looked into it. usually just go with my intuition lol.
20:29 < quinq> yeah ^^
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20:32 < mo8> https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/ports/security/keepassxc/ I know this is bad but I asked ChatGPT and it linked me there and told me to read the Makefile
20:33 < Lucas_> the browser flavor compiles keepassxc with the options -DWITH_XC_BROWSER=ON -DWITH_XC_NETWORKING=ON -DWITH_XC_BROWSER_PASSKEYS=ON
20:33 < quinq> Who needs AI when they have a quark 
20:33 < quinq> nope
20:33 < quinq> Who needs AI when they have a quinq 
20:33 < rewtkid> was just gonna say, quinq said the same thing.
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20:42 < mo8> In the boot process (after decrypting) when there is some text is shown in blue, is that output saved to a logfile anywhere I just ran fw_update -a and it added apple-boot and arm64-qcom-dtb which are two unexpected things since I am on a ThinkPad L15g1 Ryzen 4300U. The reason I want to read the blue text is because I saw something related to apple
20:42 < mo8> there
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20:47 < mo8> less /var/run/dmesg.boot
20:47 < mo8> or dmesg btw
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20:50 < echelon> is it possible to write the install77.img to a partition or does it need to be written to a root disk
20:51 < Maccampus> to a floppy :)
20:52 < mo8> I succesfully used it with Ventoy if that helps?
20:52 < Lucas_> mo8: do you know what fw_update does?
20:52 < echelon> does the image itself contain partition table?
20:52 < Lucas_> sorry, fw_update -a
20:52 < mo8> installs all available firmware
20:53 < mo8> lol gnome restart button asks for su password is that expected?
20:53 < Lucas_> yes
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20:53 < Lucas_> so, why is it surprising it adds apple-boot and arm64-qcom-dtb?
20:53 < rewtkid> mo8: -a installs all available firmware, for installing just the stuff you need, you can run fw_update without any arguments.
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20:55 < mo8> oh I thought it meant all firmware that I need (also I have a Broadcom BCM4360 (NG?) which I think is unsupported)
20:56 < mo8> fw_update -d fixes my mistake btw in the off chance someone else is here and made the same mistake right now
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21:00 < rewtkid> as for the gnome restart button, alot of linux distros have a systemd reboot/shutdown/etc script that unprivileged users can run, or maybe an entry in the sudoers file that allows it. not the case on openbsd, hence why it asks for a password. 
21:01 < mo8> That makes sense thank you
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21:06 < Lucas_> ugh, mo8 left
21:07 < Lucas_> maybe it's a matter of being part of _shutdown group
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21:08 < rewtkid> whoops. didnt know about that group. my bad
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21:10 < rewtkid> also dont use gnome lol
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21:20 < vortexx> rewtkid: when mo8 was complaining about lack of manpages, that person had been dropped into single user mode, thus /usr wasn't mounted. Also it's /dev/rsdXx not /dev/sdXx for fsck
21:22 < vortexx> mount -a will mount all partitions not marked bad iirc when in single user mode so manpages can then be accessed
21:22 < vortexx> or just mount /usr
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21:25 < rewtkid> vortexx: thank you for clarifying. also, what is the actual difference between rsdXx and sdXx? they also asked this, but i was not able to provide an answer.
21:25 < rewtkid> and for fsck, ive always used sdXx and it works fine. 
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21:27 < rewtkid> oh, nevermind im dumb its right here. "r" means raw, and its a character device, and then without the r its just a normal block device.
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21:29 < rewtkid> any reason they should specify the raw device instead of the block device? im almost certain ive always specified the block device, and it seemed to work properly for this user too.
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21:50 < pardis> the distinction is largely historical
21:50 < pardis> it's almost always possible to figure out which access mode is desired automatically, but that wasn't the case in 1978
21:50 < pardis> and some base tools do not automatically use the right one, even though they could
21:51 < rewtkid> i see.
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22:51 < echelon> sibiria:  should i select Install or Upgrade from the installer? i picked upgrade and it lists my installer flash drive and the disk, and when i pick the disk it says sd0 is not a valid root disk.
22:51 < echelon> test
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22:52 < echelon> sibiria:  should i select Install or Upgrade from the installer? i picked upgrade and it lists my installer flash drive and the disk, and when i pick the disk it says sd0 is not a valid root disk.
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22:55 < sibiria> echelon: install, if you wish to do a new install
22:55 < sibiria> if your current install is behind cryptoraid, you need to unlock that first
22:56 < sibiria> (by exiting to the shell and invoking bioctl from there)
22:56 < sibiria> backup your /home first if you haven't already
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23:20 < passstab> I've been told I installed rEFInd on this computer in a way which causes OpenBSD to not detect the boot sector.
23:21 < passstab> I'm now trying to recreate the windows dual-boot setup on another computer. What would be the ideal way to install reEFInd to avoid that issue?
23:22 < sibiria> there's only one way. you drop it on the ESP like any other EFi application
23:22 < sibiria> usually as the default (aka BOOT)
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23:28 < passstab> On this one, I booted into the rEFInd usb installer.
23:28 < sibiria> for GPT it will do the same thing
23:30 < passstab> So why does the installer/upgrader say OpenBSD can't be installed because there isn't a boot sector?
23:33 < sibiria> on my system installed openbsd first, GPT, left some space on the disk
23:33 < sibiria> then i renamed openbsd's EFI application and just file-copied rEFInd onto the ESP
23:36 < passstab> The only thing is, I already have Windows, does that change anything?
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23:40 < farhan> I'm having trouble underestanding the purpose of lines 2661-2671: http://bxr.su/OpenBSD/sys/dev/usb/if_athn_usb.c#2661
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23:40 < farhan> What is their purpose? What is being sent?
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23:43 < passstab> Another question, which wm would you use to make openBSD a chromeos clone?
23:43 < sibiria> passstab: i'd like to think not. EFI was made to accommodate for this. but i've never dual-booted windows on EFI/GPT
23:43 < dlg> farhan: it's setting up usb transfers for the device to use
23:46 < passstab> Ok, maybe I'll just do it that way, but I still don't understand why it works weird on this one.
23:47 < sibiria> passstab: plain GPT scheme on the disk? computer doing EFI and not BIOS/CSM?
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23:47 < passstab> sibiria: I checked, it is GPT.
23:48 < passstab> and EFI
23:48 < sibiria> besides the eventual hassle of OS installers fighting over who gets to be the BOOT application, it should Just Work
23:49 < passstab> In many ways, it does. I can choose between OpenBSD and Windows in EFI.
23:50 < passstab> The only thing is that OpenBSD can't identify the boot sector.
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23:52 < tvtoon> the EFI can't identify your disklabel?
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23:53 < tvtoon> Windows is fine as long as you take caution with the recovery partitions, just got a troublesome Dell with that
23:53 < passstab> I think disklabel can't identify EFI?
23:54 < tvtoon> you boot but the system can't show the boot sector?
23:54 < passstab> It lists the fstype of sd0i as unknown.
23:54 < passstab> tvtoon: yes
23:55 < tvtoon> Windows may incorrectly label system partitions as something random
23:55 < tvtoon> not 0xFE, 0xFF or something like that
23:56 < tvtoon> if that was created by OEM installation, better break the partition scheme
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