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and am i doing it right or is this type of blocking gonig to cause legit ppl to get locked out? i'm doing it for a mail server and potentially for a multi-user git server in the future. i'll be setting up imap for mail soon but i still want users to able to directly access their account a 06:14 < anelli> i know fail2ban and other solutions exist but i'd like to try solve it with base first if possible 06:16 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:16 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has joined #openbsd 06:17 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17 -!- FractaI [~Fractal@user/FractaI] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:18 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has joined #openbsd 06:18 -!- Fractal [~Fractal@5.120.106.243] has joined #openbsd 06:19 < anelli> s/to strict/too strict/ 06:19 -!- horsegoosemeth [~horsegoos@user/horsegoosemeth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20 -!- tanoshi [~tanoshi@user/tanoshi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:20 -!- Foxy_ [~fox@user/Foxy/x-8224177] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:23 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@221.237.139.182] has quit [Quit: tozhu] 06:25 -!- Fractal [~Fractal@5.120.106.243] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:26 -!- ewig [~ewig@user/ewig] has joined #openbsd 06:28 -!- tozhu [~tozhu@221.237.139.182] has joined #openbsd 06:28 -!- struchu [~struchu@staticline-31-183-159-75.toya.net.pl] has joined #openbsd 06:28 -!- Foxy_ [~fox@user/Foxy/x-8224177] has joined #openbsd 06:31 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:31 < CosmicDJ> anelli: sounds way too low, IIRC each IMAP connection is doing at least 2 connections, add some users behind a NAT'ed address and they'll all end up blocked 06:32 < IcePic> anelli: I think different services will need different limits. for git, there can be lots of connections for certain git operations, so if the users are not using ConnectionMaster things, they might lock themselves out without knowing why. I guess email servers could also have unfortunate runs where they decide to send emails to you, then a new one arrives outgoing just after so you get a few connections 06:32 < IcePic> in a short while 06:33 < anelli> CosmicDJ: oh this is only for ssh for now because it's the most targeted andi hate log noise 06:34 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 06:35 < anelli> IcePic: that's fair. ig i'll turn it off rate limiting for now. thx for info 06:36 < mischief> you may look at the relatively new PerSourcePenalties in sshd_config(5) 06:36 < phy1729> If you just hate log noise, pick a different port 06:37 < IcePic> for smtp, I guess one could set it to expire in a short while, so even if an smtp server does get caught by mistake, it would retry again later so if the block is gone then, you get the mails 06:37 < anelli> phy1729: i like the convenience tbh of not having to put -p 1234 for everycommand. yeah i know i sound i wanna have my cake and eat it xD so i'm looking for a way to make it less severe 06:37 -!- adip [~adip@c145-14.icpnet.pl] has joined #openbsd 06:37 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@2001:fb1:7f:c1c5:843b:dbf3:42e9:5a6a] has joined #openbsd 06:37 < phy1729> .ssh/config Host foo Port 1234 06:38 < anelli> mischief: oh wow that's very good thx 06:39 < anelli> phy1729: ikik tbh i'd rather have a noisy log than configure stuff. i'm this lazy lol. thx for reminder tho 06:40 < anelli> IcePic: oh that sounds vaguely like greylisting. i'll see if there's something like that for imap when i get to it thxx 06:41 < CosmicDJ> phy1729: picking another port doesn't help anymore IMHO 06:41 -!- itchy [~mr@user/itchy] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:42 < anelli> it does dramatically reduce annoying bots. not a security measure just annoyance-reduction 06:42 -!- ixc [~x@user/ixc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43 -!- itchy [~mr@user/itchy] has joined #openbsd 06:43 < phy1729> Right just for log spam. Changing the port does nothing for security 06:43 < anelli> if you only allow ssh keys for authentication you're good security wise 06:44 < IcePic> anelli: it does, just meant that smtp is at least more resilient to failures and delays than someones interactive "git clone" will be 06:44 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has joined #openbsd 06:44 < anelli> IcePic: oh got ya 06:48 -!- ixc [~x@user/ixc] has joined #openbsd 06:50 -!- apac [~alexander@user/apac] has joined #openbsd 07:11 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:14 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@fixed-187-190-207-73.totalplay.net] has joined #openbsd 07:14 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@fixed-187-190-207-73.totalplay.net] has quit [Changing host] 07:14 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 07:15 -!- shiranaihito_ [~shiranaih@2001:fb1:7f:c1c5:843b:dbf3:42e9:5a6a] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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thx 10:50 * sibiria does the lazy thing and runs only a master 10:51 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:52 * RobbieAB does the not-openbsd thing and just runs bind 10:53 < anelli> lols. yeah i ran master but it gets some downtime. it's used for a mail server so wanna make it stronger xD 10:53 < anelli> moment lemme get a log 10:54 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 10:57 < anelli> http://okturing.com/src/25158/body master ip: 123.456.789.876, domain name: example.com 10:59 < anelli> lol i didn't fully censor it. yeah my domain name is pastanoggin.com xD 10:59 < IcePic> anelli: is the zones dir missing or not writeable for the nsd? 10:59 < sibiria> and it's a good one 11:00 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00 < anelli> thx <3 11:00 < IcePic> or did this fix itself => "[2025-05-19 10:43:09.524] nsd[24619]: info: zonefile slave/example.com does not exist 11:00 < IcePic> " 11:02 < anelli> IcePic: /var/nsd/zones is root:wheel 755, /var/nsd/zones/master/ is root:wheel 755, /var/nsd/zones/slave is root:_nsd 775 11:03 -!- gman999 [~GMan999@user/gman999] has joined #openbsd 11:03 -!- gatlinggoat [~Thunderbi@96.225.72.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:03 < IcePic> did the zone file appear on the secondary? 11:03 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:03 < anelli> IcePic: nah it doesn't appear, i killed nsd and reran it and the log file still says it's missing 11:04 < anelli> this is the slave's nsd log. i'm running it as `nsd -dV5' 11:04 < IcePic> does it chroot to somewhere not /var/nsd/zones ? 11:05 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has joined #openbsd 11:05 < anelli> sorry how do i know that 11:05 < IcePic> perhaps if the conf has 11:05 < IcePic> chroot: NSD will chroot on startup to the specified directory. 11:06 < IcePic> also, this part on the nsd doc might be relevant, 11:06 < IcePic> Note that if elsewhere in the configuration you specify an absolute path- name to a file inside the chroot, you have to prepend the chroot path. That way, you can switch the chroot option on and off without having to modify anything else in the configuration. 11:06 -!- deepesttoaster [~deepestto@user/deepesttoaster] has joined #openbsd 11:07 < IcePic> 10 lines down, nsd docs at https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/documentation/nsd/nsd.conf/ says about zonesdir => Set the value to "" (the empty string) to disable the change of working directory. By default "/etc/nsd" is used. 11:08 -!- \subline [~join_subl@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #openbsd 11:08 < anelli> nah it doesn't have a chroot config. it's the default config with the '# tsig key example' block and '# slave zone example' uncommented and filled in 11:08 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:09 < anelli> o lemme c the doc 11:09 -!- SiFuh [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10 -!- SiFuh [~SiFuh@user/sifuh] has joined #openbsd 11:10 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has joined #openbsd 11:11 < anelli> nah i don't have that too. do i disable it with `zonesdir: ""' ? 11:11 < anelli> i didn't have to touch that in the master so it's weird 11:13 -!- Lucanis [~lucanis@user/lucanis] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:18 < anelli> you think it's choking on the tsig key secret? i got a long password generated with `dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/stdout count=1 bs=64 | openssl base64' 11:19 < IcePic> I think the error message would be different if key was bad 11:19 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has joined #openbsd 11:20 < IcePic> but haven't run nsd (at least not in a long while) 11:21 < anelli> oh alr. i'll try a bit with the config stuffs you suggested 11:22 < IcePic> So while I am not familiar with nsd, the issue of not getting the zones file written would relate to paths, and since it is logging a relative path, it would be important to know what the current dir is when this relative path is attempted 11:22 -!- Leone [~Leo@104-195-237-50.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #openbsd 11:23 < IcePic> also, obsd could have slightly different defaults than nsd (possibly improved and not just changed) so that would affect the config too 11:24 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:24 < anelli> IcePic: o nice pointers. yeah the 'slave/' part is relative. i'll check on that and on the default obsd settings too. thx 11:26 < anelli> or i should just learn bind xD seems like it's the de facto 11:26 -!- jsto [~jsto@user/meow/jsto] has joined #openbsd 11:27 -!- apac [~alexander@user/apac] has joined #openbsd 11:28 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 11:31 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32 < sibiria> i have no experience with bind so it's a shallow impression, but nsd comes off as the more modern choice 11:33 < anelli> yeah 11:33 -!- hisacro [~OBSD@my.displ.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:34 < RobbieAB> BIND is the defacto reference 11:34 < anelli> yeah. i got annoyed at the dns book bc i had nsd at hand and the config wasin bind xD ig i gotta get over it 11:34 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 11:36 < RobbieAB> And is what I was tend to end up using on Linux in work environments if we are doing authoritative DNS. (For pure recurser duties it tends to be a mix of dnsmasq and unbound) 11:36 < anelli> oh 11:36 -!- naoki [~Thunderbi@KD106150157243.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: naoki] 11:37 < IcePic> I would consider running $something-else on the slave, and it would not matter if it was bind, knot, powerdns or something, just having two different daemons would be a bit more work to set up, but probably good for resilience 11:37 < anelli> IcePic true thing. i'll think abt it 11:37 < IcePic> in case someone manages to find a way to crash or DoS nsd with a crafted request 11:37 < RobbieAB> However... Most of the scaling and performance criticisms of BIND tend to come from quite special use cases. 11:37 < RobbieAB> IME at least. 11:37 -!- ublix [~ublx@user/ublx] has joined #openbsd 11:38 < IcePic> RobbieAB: my take is more like "I never will be growing even near a place where a GHz-cpu and bind cant answer fast enough" 11:38 < RobbieAB> IcePic: Pretty much. :) 11:38 < RobbieAB> I was somewhere where we managed to accidentally DDOS our internal DNS infrastructure. 11:39 < RobbieAB> The firewalls saturated before the very low spec VMs we were running BIND on fell over. 11:39 < IcePic> yeah, I'm sure a lot of my services can be DDoSed too, but if you run out of sockets or max out the udp queue on it, it doesn't matter much if it was bind,knot,nsd or something not-getting-requests, they would all be non-responsive I gather 11:39 < RobbieAB> IIRC, in the post-mortem we added a second CPU to the low spec VMs "So journald could saturate a whole core on it's own and just get out of the way" 11:40 -!- ublx [~ublx@user/ublx] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:40 < RobbieAB> IcePic: 1 vCPU, 1GB RAM, BIND could handle the 20,000 queries a second it took to end up with saturated firewalls. 11:41 -!- \subline [~join_subl@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:41 < RobbieAB> Analysing the performance of the system under the load, journald was consuming 66% of the CPU. Add a second CPU and journald simply flatlined one CPU while everything else just carried on fine on the other CPU. 11:42 -!- euphores [~SASL_euph@user/euphores] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:42 < RobbieAB> (Ok, it helped it was 20,000 identical queries, but we could track the entire load right through our DNS servers and out) 11:43 < RobbieAB> Non-cachable results make things "weird" 11:44 < RobbieAB> So yeah, if you are running DNS on a global scale and handling millions of queries a second, bind might not scale... If you are taking advice from an IRC channel of strangers, you aren't running DNS on that scale. :) 11:44 < IcePic> amen 11:44 < IcePic> "If you have to ask, you're not in this category" 11:45 < RobbieAB> IcePic: I tend to view it as "Google solutions are right for Google. You are not Google!" 11:48 -!- euphores [~SASL_euph@user/euphores] has joined #openbsd 11:49 -!- hisacro [~OBSD@my.displ.nl] has joined #openbsd 11:49 -!- noone [~six@user/six] has quit [Quit: nyaa~] 11:51 -!- raspbeguy [~raspbeguy@wireguard/tunneler/raspbeguy] has joined #openbsd 11:51 < sibiria> quite the digression in light of the actual problem: a configuration error 11:51 < sibiria> whether bind or nsd... 11:51 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:52 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 11:53 < anelli> lol this is more fun than stressing over this 11:53 < sibiria> aren't there plenty of tutorials on the net showing how to get zone propagation working in nsd? at least it doesn't sound like a daunting problem 11:53 < anelli> yeah i read 2 11:54 < anelli> idk why you assume it's a config error 11:54 < anelli> i can upload the config if you'd like 11:54 < sibiria> because if it weren't then propagation would have worked, is my thinking 11:55 < anelli> yeah that's why we're troubleshooting it 11:55 < RobbieAB> Did propagation actually fail? 11:55 < sibiria> no need to upload on my behalf. i run nsd, but only a master 11:55 < RobbieAB> Or is it just not writing out the zone-file where expected? 11:57 < anelli> RobbieAB: it's not writng the file. log says there's no /var/nsd/slave/pastanoggin.com and doesn't write anything there. restarting it multiple times does nothing 11:58 < RobbieAB> You confirmed the folder exists and is reachable and writabe as the user you run nsd as? 11:59 < anelli> RobbieAB: yeah it's `drwxrwxr-x 2 root _nsd 512 May 18 07:10 slave' 11:59 -!- ublix is now known as ublx 11:59 -!- raspbeguy [~raspbeguy@wireguard/tunneler/raspbeguy] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00 < RobbieAB> And /var/nsd ? 12:00 < RobbieAB> Welcome to cynicism. :) 12:01 -!- d-ra [~d-ra@user/d-ra] has joined #openbsd 12:01 < anelli> drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 May 19 11:15 nsd 12:01 < anelli> drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 May 18 07:10 zones 12:01 < anelli> it's the same as on the master 12:02 < anelli> it's weird how zones is root:wheel but still can be accessesed on master? 12:02 < anelli> hmmm ig that's it 12:02 < anelli> lemme try to change group of zones? 12:02 < RobbieAB> /var/nsd/zones/slave or /var/nsd/slave ? 12:02 < sibiria> zones should be root:wheel, but the actual master/slave inside is a different matter 12:03 < RobbieAB> 11:48 < anelli> hi so i configured 2 dnses as master and slave with nsd and it seems to be working as per output from the nsd slave, but on the slave /var/nsd/slave/ is empty. i have a zonefil in /var/nsd/master/ on the master server and it works fine so i'm wondering is normal for slave to not create a zonefile in /var/nsd/slave? thx 12:03 < anelli> RobbiaAB: yeah i'm miswrote it. sorry. /var/nsd/zones/slave is empty 12:03 < anelli> sibiria fair 12:04 < RobbieAB> anelli: Worth checking, it's just the kind of silly mistake people can waste weeks hunting for. 12:05 < anelli> yeah `ls /var/nsd/zones/slave' gives no output 12:05 < RobbieAB> My ultimate sledgehammer at this point on Linux is "strace" to see exactly what and where nsd is trying to access. 12:05 < anelli> you're right. i thought that too. lemme try 12:05 < RobbieAB> ktrace I think is the equivalent on openbsd. (I've not had to resort to that yet on my openbsd systems) 12:11 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 12:15 -!- cantelope [uid598105@id-598105.hampstead.irccloud.com] has joined #openbsd 12:17 < anelli> alright idk how to read ktrace xD so i can see it dod this `36635 nsd NAMI "/var/nsd/db/zone.list"' then open which gave it no such file or directory, then later on did `36635 nsd NAMI "/var/nsd/zones"' and chdir without error. otherwise it doesn't do any operations on string with 'zone' or 'slave' in it. should i upload the whole thing and remove the tsig password? 12:20 -!- sd0 [~nobody@user/sd0] has joined #openbsd 12:24 -!- sun [~sun@66.23.193.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:24 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:25 -!- xx [~xx@user/xx] has joined #openbsd 12:25 -!- rewtkid [~rewtkid@user/rewtkid] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:25 -!- sun [~sun@66.23.193.72] has joined #openbsd 12:26 -!- sdds [~sdds@user/sdds] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:26 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:28 -!- memset [~memset@gateway/tor-sasl/memset] has joined #openbsd 12:29 -!- morte [~user@user/monkey/x-0691028] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:30 -!- rewtkid [~rewtkid@user/rewtkid] has joined #openbsd 12:31 < anelli> alr ig i'll check it out later again. thx a lot for your time everyone <3 12:31 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32 -!- \subline [~join_subl@69-165-245-79.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #openbsd 12:34 -!- ewig [~ewig@user/ewig] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:35 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has joined #openbsd 12:36 -!- gnucode [~gnucode@user/jab] has joined #openbsd 12:42 -!- daugaard [~daugaard@user/daugaard] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:44 -!- pebble [~pebble@145-255-192-100.ecomservice.bg] has quit [] 12:51 -!- sirphat0n [~sp@user/sirphat0n] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:52 -!- dev1ls [dev1ls@user/Dev1ls] has joined #openbsd 12:54 -!- Guest47 [~textual@2405:201:500d:211a:9d32:9e9:ac60:1659] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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